Elektron Musical Instruments

Hi all!

Check out the pictures and MP3s from the Elektron Super Party in 
Gothenburg on http://www.elektron.se/superparty/ !

Nils Odegaard/Valve

On Tue Nov 05 2002, belplascaprod <nilsodegaard@...> wrote:

> Check out the pictures and MP3s from the Elektron Super Party in 
> Gothenburg on http://www.elektron.se/superparty/ !

Wonderful! Now I can really hear what was going on. The volume was
actually a bit too low for me at least. Right now I'm listening to
Erase's show, and Valve is next in my playlist. 

Happy happy joy joy! I'm a grateful grapefruit!

/Janne

-- 
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

>> Check out the pictures and MP3s from the Elektron Super Party in 
>> Gothenburg on http://www.elektron.se/superparty/ !
>
> Wonderful! Now I can really hear what was going on. The volume was
> actually a bit too low for me at least. Right now I'm listening to
> Erase's show, and Valve is next in my playlist. 

Really to low? I thought it was a bit to loud, must be my super sensitive dog hearing! but I sure I had a blast, great music, to bad Pluxus only did some djing, or did they play? did I miss it?

I just bought a sidstation, not because of the party but I have been thinking about it for a while, finally got an impulse and ordered in the middle of the night, can't wait to get my hands on it.

regards,
David

David Br\ufffdnnvall wrote:

> I just bought a sidstation, not because of the party but I have been
> thinking about it for a while, finally got an impulse and ordered in
> the middle of the night, can't wait to get my hands on it.

I did exactly the same with my Machinedrum. How many beers did you have??

;-))

Gert

On Wed Nov 06 2002, David Br\ufffdnnvall <david@...> wrote:

> Really to low? I thought it was a bit to loud, must be my super
> sensitive dog hearing! but I sure I had a blast, great music, to bad
> Pluxus only did some djing, or did they play? did I miss it?

Well, I am always wearing ear plugs when going out, which explains a
bit of it. It was quite hard to hear Valve's music, and the same thing
for Erase. When the DJ took over after Erase the volume was
considerably higher than during the live gig.

Zombie Nation though was loud enough. :)

Unfortunately I missed Rob Acid, but hey! It's downloaded and next in
my playlist! :)

/Janne

-- 
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

Janne G:son Berg wrote:

> Unfortunately I missed Rob Acid, but hey! It's downloaded and next in
> my playlist! :)

I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far the best!

Gert

> I did exactly the same with my Machinedrum. How many beers
> did you have??


I don't drink beer!

:)

regards,
David


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

So did I! ;-)

But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the other 
bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more 
mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a 
bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :) 
Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two) 
to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the Elektron-
style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :) 
I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated 
it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our 
audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and 
that's what counts!

Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)


--- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...> 
wrote:

> I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far 
the best!
> 
> Gert

belplascaprod wrote:
> So did I! ;-)
>
> But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the other
> bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
> mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a
> bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
> Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two)
> to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the Elektron-
> style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
> I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated
> it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
> audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
> that's what counts!
>
> Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)

Hi Nils,

Thanx for explaining. I'm rather heavy into minimal techno and experimental,
so it's quite obvious I liked your set best. I have listened to it at least
4 times now, and I will put it on my iPod. I was wondering, do you guys make
music with other instruments as well? Have you got any CD's out? I would be
interested in buying them - if they are like your live set :)))

Gert

> But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and 
> that's what counts!

 Cheers 2 that m8 !

> 
> I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve
> set was by far the best!

Agree 100%, although Zombie Nation's was very, very
good as well. I've still to ear the other Dj's, but if
they were as bad as Erase (good records, no skills,
which was still not as bad as his crummy, badly
organized Live Set), it's a crying shame. Having vinyl
does not a DJ make. Please, practise.

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Hi Nils,
You have great Fx sounds, love defenitly your basses and the ambient bleeps,
rezonoises are cool.
Appart this... i am not afficionado to Minimalistic Electro music... but my
mind is changing... =; )

Moreno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:20 PM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
> So did I! ;-)
>
> But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the other
> bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
> mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a
> bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
> Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two)
> to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the Elektron-
> style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
> I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated
> it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
> audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
> that's what counts!
>
> Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...>
> wrote:
>
> > I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far
> the best!
> >
> > Gert

Yes... it is also very nice. Especially for SID-suckers like we are !

> Agree 100%, although Zombie Nation's was very, very
> good as well

Hey Nils!

I don\ufffdt know what you mean. The Party was probably the most not-mainstream
a "company party" can be.
The thing is: people don\ufffdt want to "listen" to music at a "disco-style"
partynight.
All they want to do is to get drunk, dance and get laid and have a good
time.

And that\ufffds all that parties are about.

Showcases or Concerts are different of course.


Flo





-----Urspr\ufffdngliche Nachricht-----
Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 16:20
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!


So did I! ;-)

But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the other
bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a
bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two)
to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the Elektron-
style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated
it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
that's what counts!

Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)


--- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...>
wrote:

> I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far
the best!
>
> Gert




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> Hi Nils,
> 
> Thanx for explaining. I'm rather heavy into minimal techno and 
experimental,
> so it's quite obvious I liked your set best. I have listened to it 
at least
> 4 times now, and I will put it on my iPod. I was wondering, do you 
guys make
> music with other instruments as well? Have you got any CD's out? I 
would be
> interested in buying them - if they are like your live set :)))
> 
> Gert

Hi Gert!

Thanks (again) for your compliments and interest!

Both Thomas (the other member of Valve and my cousin) and I have been 
making electronic music since the late eighties, but none of us have 
released any records within this genre. Both of us use lots of other 
electronic gear as well (mainly based around sampling, FM and analog 
synthesis), though I have to admit I've mainly concentrated on the MD 
for the last 18 months.... I like restraining myself to just a few 
limited means.
I don't own a PC, but within a few months I will and then I will put 
lots of demoes out on my homepage. By now, there are only a few links 
to web sites containing some of my music on this (lousy) homepage, 
but if if you're interested check it out: 
http://tobias.hiof.no/~nilsodeg/ Some of the stuff is old, and maybe 
not representative for what I do now.
Thomas runs a studio in Oslo, Norway, but I think the home page for 
the studio is inactive.

Best regards,
Nils

Zombie is completely wicked to generate dangerous infrasounds... (don't know
the word in english i guess it's the same)
Wooooooo... It's not that i don't like...
I guess he had to loose a ton of money to buy again and again new active
monitors as he burned them several times...
He heee Joking...
The Sid is defenitly Noisy Damned for eternity!!!

Moreno

> -----Original Message-----
> From: M-.-n [mailto:nostromo@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 4:38 PM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
>
> Yes... it is also very nice. Especially for SID-suckers like we are !
>
> > Agree 100%, although Zombie Nation's was very, very
> > good as well
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

On Wed Nov 06 2002, Flavio Alvarez <srminimo@...> wrote:

> Agree 100%, although Zombie Nation's was very, very
> good as well. I've still to ear the other Dj's, but if
> they were as bad as Erase (good records, no skills,
> which was still not as bad as his crummy, badly
> organized Live Set), it's a crying shame. Having vinyl
> does not a DJ make. Please, practise.

What makes a good DJ? Especially in this situation, playing as people
were arriving to the party, checking out the place and talking to each
other. Perfect beatmatching skills? 

/Janne

-- 
Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...   http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
                                      .

Ooops, messages were running in while I was writing my previous 
message... :)

Thank you all for your compliments!

To Splank; You're probably right. Maybe that's it then, we didn't 
expect it to be a "party" in the traditional sense at all. But this 
may sound like I'm whining or complaining about the party. WELL I'M 
NOT! ;-) We had a really really great time!!!! :-D

Regards,
Nils


--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> Hey Nils!
> 
> I don´t know what you mean. The Party was probably the most not-
mainstream
> a "company party" can be.
> The thing is: people don´t want to "listen" to music at a "disco-
style"
> partynight.
> All they want to do is to get drunk, dance and get laid and have a 
good
> time.
> 
> And that´s all that parties are about.
> 
> Showcases or Concerts are different of course.
> 
> 
> Flo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@h...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 16:20
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> 
> 
> So did I! ;-)
> 
> But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the 
other
> bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
> mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a
> bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
> Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two)
> to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the 
Elektron-
> style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
> I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated
> it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
> audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
> that's what counts!
> 
> Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...>
> wrote:
> 
> > I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far
> the best!
> >
> > Gert
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

There are some minor exceptions like me or other music lovers that go in
clubs to really interact their body with other ones (Ahhhhh girls) on nice
music i like to listen as it gives me the Feel, Vibe, Groove we all wanna
share.

Well I am sure people won't go in a club with music that sucks... so they
listen somehow anyway...

In extra i jus get happily mad and drunk, this is jus a bonus for me... But
the music first!!! (For me)

Moreno RENGA

> Hey Nils!
> I don4t know what you mean. The Party was probably the most not-mainstream
> a "company party" can be.
> The thing is: people don4t want to "listen" to music at a "disco-style"
> partynight.
> All they want to do is to get drunk, dance and get laid and have a good
> time.
>
> And that4s all that parties are about.
>
> Showcases or Concerts are different of course.
>
>
> Flo
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr|ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 16:20
> An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
> So did I! ;-)
>
> But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the other
> bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
> mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a
> bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
> Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two)
> to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the Elektron-
> style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
> I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated
> it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
> audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
> that's what counts!
>
> Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...>
> wrote:
>
> > I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far
> the best!
> >
> > Gert
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>

Hey Nils!
Well, maybe the next event (if there is one) should be a full day event with
"open doors" at the elektron facility, public explanation of the machines,
showcases of Elektron-only-livesets and in the night there should
be a wild party somewhere...

Flo



-----Urspr\ufffdngliche Nachricht-----
Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@...]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 17:15
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!


Ooops, messages were running in while I was writing my previous
message... :)

Thank you all for your compliments!

To Splank; You're probably right. Maybe that's it then, we didn't
expect it to be a "party" in the traditional sense at all. But this
may sound like I'm whining or complaining about the party. WELL I'M
NOT! ;-) We had a really really great time!!!! :-D

Regards,
Nils


--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
>
> Hey Nils!
>
> I don\ufffdt know what you mean. The Party was probably the most not-
mainstream
> a "company party" can be.
> The thing is: people don\ufffdt want to "listen" to music at a "disco-
style"
> partynight.
> All they want to do is to get drunk, dance and get laid and have a
good
> time.
>
> And that\ufffds all that parties are about.
>
> Showcases or Concerts are different of course.
>
>
> Flo
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr\ufffdngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@h...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 16:20
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
> So did I! ;-)
>
> But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the
other
> bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
> mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was maybe a
> bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
> Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or two)
> to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the
Elektron-
> style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
> I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience appreciated
> it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
> audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
> that's what counts!
>
> Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)
>
>
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...>
> wrote:
>
> > I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by far
> the best!
> >
> > Gert
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> What makes a good DJ? Perfect beatmatching skills? 

It's a good start!!! Maybe for some people skills are
not important, but for me it's a real turn off when a
DJ can't mix (or at least TRY). It's no different from
a band playing out of key or a good band with a bad
singer. It's downright disrespectful to the
profession.


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>> What makes a good DJ? Perfect beatmatching skills?
>
> It's a good start!!! Maybe for some people skills are
> not important, but for me it's a real turn off when a
> DJ can't mix (or at least TRY). It's no different from
> a band playing out of key or a good band with a bad
> singer. It's downright disrespectful to the
> profession.


Agree!
Why have I spent the last 2 months practising every day with my new 
1200s ???
Mixing skills aren't a plus, they are basic.
Obviously, skills alone mean nothing.

Federico Ciapi wrote:
>>> What makes a good DJ? Perfect beatmatching skills?
>>
>> It's a good start!!! Maybe for some people skills are
>> not important, but for me it's a real turn off when a
>> DJ can't mix (or at least TRY). It's no different from
>> a band playing out of key or a good band with a bad
>> singer. It's downright disrespectful to the
>> profession.
>
>
> Agree!
> Why have I spent the last 2 months practising every day with my new
> 1200s ???
> Mixing skills aren't a plus, they are basic.
> Obviously, skills alone mean nothing.

On the other hand, everybody's got to learn. I remember a gig with my first
band. We existed 1 year, and just had about 15 songs so we could play for
about 60 minutes. We had only done one gig before. Then I got a phonecall
from a guy who wanted us to play live 3 days later at a big student party
where at least 500 people would come (which was huge, considering the fact
we had only played for about 50 people at the local football club!). We had
to replace an American funk act that couldn't make it (and we were playing
"new wave", couldn't sing, and had no experience whatsoever.
Well, what can I say. We rehearsed day and night for 3 days, did the gig -
and many things went wrong.
Although we got some applause, and strangely enough no one walked away
(probably because of the dj that got on stage right after us), we definitely
sucked big time. Somewhere I still have the tape, and I just don't dare to
listen to it. It was really embarrassing...

Gert

Looks like it was a great time.  I was planning on flying over for it 
(I'm in the US) but my sister's wedding was the same day.  I'd be 
willing to bet the Elektron party would have been more enjoyable :)  As 
much fun as it was listening to a bad DJ play tons of pop music, 
listening to these MP3s I think I would have preferred Sweden.

c.

On Tuesday, November 5, 2002, at 01:56 PM, belplascaprod wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Check out the pictures and MP3s from the Elektron Super Party in
> Gothenburg on http://www.elektron.se/superparty/ !
>
> Nils Odegaard/Valve
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>

I'd be happy to participate at both....



--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> Hey Nils!
> Well, maybe the next event (if there is one) should be a full day 
event with
> "open doors" at the elektron facility, public explanation of the 
machines,
> showcases of Elektron-only-livesets and in the night there should
> be a wild party somewhere...
> 
> Flo
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@h...]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 17:15
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> 
> 
> Ooops, messages were running in while I was writing my previous
> message... :)
> 
> Thank you all for your compliments!
> 
> To Splank; You're probably right. Maybe that's it then, we didn't
> expect it to be a "party" in the traditional sense at all. But this
> may sound like I'm whining or complaining about the party. WELL I'M
> NOT! ;-) We had a really really great time!!!! :-D
> 
> Regards,
> Nils
> 
> 
> --- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Nils!
> >
> > I don´t know what you mean. The Party was probably the most not-
> mainstream
> > a "company party" can be.
> > The thing is: people don´t want to "listen" to music at a "disco-
> style"
> > partynight.
> > All they want to do is to get drunk, dance and get laid and have a
> good
> > time.
> >
> > And that´s all that parties are about.
> >
> > Showcases or Concerts are different of course.
> >
> >
> > Flo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: belplascaprod [mailto:nilsodegaard@h...]
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2002 16:20
> > An: elektron-users@y...
> > Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> >
> >
> > So did I! ;-)
> >
> > But seriously, we certainly had a lower "party factor" than the
> other
> > bands (we were sitting in arm-chairs....) The party was a lot more
> > mainstream than we expected (no disrespect), so our show was 
maybe a
> > bit alien to the party-expecting Swedes. :)
> > Our aim was to demonstrate that you only need a Machinedrum (or 
two)
> > to make state-of-the-art electronica, and to personalize the
> Elektron-
> > style anti-hero bedroom-musician. :)
> > I think we managed to do that, but whether the audience 
appreciated
> > it I'm not sure.... as I mentioned, we might have misjudged our
> > audience. But what the heck, we had fun doing our own thing, and
> > that's what counts!
> >
> > Nils (one of the two Machinedrummers in Valve)
> >
> >
> > --- In elektron-users@y..., "Gert van Santen" <g.vansanten@c...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I checked most of the stuff, and I think the Valve set was by 
far
> > the best!
> > >
> > > Gert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to 
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> On the other hand, everybody's got to learn. 

Point well taken, but at least the most basic you
should learn at home!!! Although I have not heard your
first gig, someone who did liked you enough to book
you again, and I'm sure before that first gig you must
have practised many times (specially since you had 60
minutes woth of original material). It's not like you
showed up on stage and did'nt know how to play the
guitar. Plus you yourself mentioned you rehearsed day
and night!!!! That's all I ask for when I hear a DJ.
Not everybody can be Jeff Mills, but to play in front
of people you need a little more than balls and a
rudimentary idea of working the fader. You need to put
some effort on your craft, or THEN it's plain
embarrasing. 




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--- In elektron-users@y..., "Janne G:son Berg" <d3berg@d...> wrote:

> What makes a good DJ? Especially in this situation, playing as 
> people were arriving to the party, checking out the place and 
> talking to each other. Perfect beatmatching skills? 

  Perfect beatmatching skill doesn't make a DJ good.

  In my opinion, perfect beatmatching skill is already *ASSUMED* if 
one calls oneself a DJ.  It's just a given.  If a DJ can't beatmatch 
he or she needs to lose the name DJ and go back to the bedroom and 
practice for another year or two.

  Once they have that down, what makes a DJ good is ability to play 
the "correct" record that will both mix well with the previous record 
and keep building up the music for the sake of moving the 
crowd/listener.  And that takes even more practice, and also the 
ability to read an audience... which a lot of DJs will never get the 
hang of.

Ok. I know that Erase can beatmix without problem. He chose not
to. Why? This is my guess.

Playing records from several genres, for non-dancing purposes. Music
for hanging around to, the first DJ slot for the evening. More
important to create a mood than get people up and dancing. A good
selection of music is much more important than perfect technical
skills. 

I've played several gigs like that, music ranging from 20'ies jazz to
the latest electronica from Warp. Get people in a good mood, get them
prepared for what is to come later on in the night.

So, what makes a good DJ? People enjoying the music she/he plays. If
the DJ is playing to make people dance, obviously dancing people is a
good sign of a good DJ. The right DJ at the right place at the right
time.

A DJ can be playing like an angel, but if the audience doesn't like
the music, is that a good DJ? To me, no. Never. Ever. If the
club/occasion demands it, the best DJ in the world can be one that
only plays the latest country'n'western hits from the radio, as long
as the audience are enjoying it.

/Janne

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Hello Reilly!

I just wonder where you heard the liveset.
Is it online? Please tell me the adress.


Thnks
Flo aka Splank



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i think that the most important thing for a dj to do is engage the crowd.
there are plenty of big named dj's that can't beat match to save there
life's(though most can, for the most part), but i think in a "party
atmosphere" most people don't really care if the mixing sucks just as long
as
the" vibe's"  there. now listening to something  on a cd or mp3 is complete
different because your not in the atmosphere of the party, your just sitting
around in front of a computer(more than likely for these mp3's), where your
paying attention more to the music then the girls/beer/drugs/whatever.

also splank your live pa is great!!! i have listened to it about 5 times
now.
wish i could have seen it live:(... (i live in the us)

reilly


> he or she needs to lose the name DJ and go back
> to the bedroom and
> practice for another year or two.
>
>   Once they have that down, what makes a DJ
> good is ability to play
> the "correct" record that will both mix well
> with the previous record
> and keep building up the music for the sake of
> moving the
> crowd/listener.  And that takes even more
> practice, and also the
> ability to read an audience... which a lot of
> DJs will never get the
> hang of.
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i think that the most important thing for a dj to do is engage the crowd.
there are plenty of big named dj's that can't beat match to save there
life's(though most can, for the most part), but i think in a "party
atmosphere" most people don't really care if the mixing sucks just as long as
the" vibe's"  there. now listening to something  on a cd or mp3 is complete
different because your not in the atmosphere of the party, your just sitting
around in front of a computer(more than likely for these mp3's), where your
paying attention more to the music then the girls/beer/drugs/whatever.

also splank your live pa is great!!! i have listened to it about 5 times now.
wish i could have seen it live:(... (i live in the us)

reilly

> he or she needs to lose the name DJ and go back
> to the bedroom and 
> practice for another year or two.
> 
>   Once they have that down, what makes a DJ
> good is ability to play 
> the "correct" record that will both mix well
> with the previous record 
> and keep building up the music for the sake of
> moving the 
> crowd/listener.  And that takes even more
> practice, and also the 
> ability to read an audience... which a lot of
> DJs will never get the 
> hang of.
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Flavio Alvarez wrote:
>> On the other hand, everybody's got to learn.
>
> Point well taken, but at least the most basic you
<snip>
You need to put
> some effort on your craft, or THEN it's plain
> embarrasing.

I agree completely. But do we know how much effort this guy put in his set??
Or maybe his girlfriend broke up with him, or he got a bad case of stage
fever... When you combine this with it being someone's first or second time,
things can go very wrong. OK, I wasn't there, but I've read quite a lot of
stories about (now famous) people who prepared themseves well for a first or
second gig, and then everything went wrong. One band even had to leave the
stage and change their name (forgot which band that was).
Oh, well, most important thing; it looked like a great party, and next time
I will try to come as well and combine that with a vacation in Sweden :))

Gert

On Wed Nov 06 2002, splank <splank@...> wrote:

> I just wonder where you heard the liveset.
> Is it online? Please tell me the adress.

http://www.elektron.se/superparty/

At the bottom of the page. :)

/Janne

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                                      .

if the mixing sucks the set sucks. More specificly If they are trying to
beatmatch and trainwreck all over the place. If they aren't really mixing
and not trying to beatmatch and just letting songs end etc.. the general
public will feel that thats passable i guess if your mixing tracks that
really cant go into each other.

> From: <reillypha@...>
> Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:33:57 -0800
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> 
> i think that the most important thing for a dj to do is engage the crowd.
> there are plenty of big named dj's that can't beat match to save there
> life's(though most can, for the most part), but i think in a "party
> atmosphere" most people don't really care if the mixing sucks just as long as
> the" vibe's"  there. now listening to something  on a cd or mp3 is complete
> different because your not in the atmosphere of the party, your just sitting
> around in front of a computer(more than likely for these mp3's), where your
> paying attention more to the music then the girls/beer/drugs/whatever.
> 
> also splank your live pa is great!!! i have listened to it about 5 times now.
> wish i could have seen it live:(... (i live in the us)
> 
> reilly
> 
> 
>> he or she needs to lose the name DJ and go back
>> to the bedroom and
>> practice for another year or two.
>> 
>> Once they have that down, what makes a DJ
>> good is ability to play
>> the "correct" record that will both mix well
>> with the previous record
>> and keep building up the music for the sake of
>> moving the 
>> crowd/listener.  And that takes even more
>> practice, and also the
>> ability to read an audience... which a lot of
>> DJs will never get the
>> hang of.
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Ok. I know that Erase can beatmix without problem.
 He chose not
 to. Why? This is my guess.
 Playing records from several genres, for non-dancing
 purposes. 

Ok, first of all: I don't want to insult Erase or you.
And I admit I can only comment based on this ONE
performance. But, it seemed to me most of is set was
electro (danceable stuff too), all at around the same
speed. Not impossible to mix, but that's just me. 
If he can beat mix and chose not to, that's his
mistake, specially when this is going around the world
for all to hear and is probably his only calling
cardto many people. What if I'm a promoter here in NY
looking to do an Elektron party and this set is the
ONLY thing I have of him? You think I'd pay him to fly
down here or would I pay instead for Zombie Nation's
kick ass set?

More
> important to create a mood than get people up and
> dancing. 

Bad mixing gets me in a fowl mood!!!!


A good
> selection of music is much more important than
> perfect technical
> skills. 

I think you need BOTH.

 

> So, what makes a good DJ? People enjoying the music
> she/he plays. 

Anyone can put records one after the other and if the
tunes are right people will enjoy the music. It does
not mean she/he is a "DJ". At least not a
proffessional one.
Again!!!! Much respect. He might really be a super Dj,
and was playing without monitors, or 1000 other
reasons. I certainly do not want to offend anybody,
but gave an opinion on what I heard (and is something
that bothers me, BAD Djing).
Sr M






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i agree with you that there is no "vibe" in trainwrecking. 

On Wed, 06 Nov 2002 14:59:15 -0500 Andy Tarpinian <evildead@...> wrote:

> if the mixing sucks the set sucks. More
> specificly If they are trying to
> beatmatch and trainwreck all over the place. If
> they aren't really mixing
> and not trying to beatmatch and just letting
> songs end etc.. the general
> public will feel that thats passable i guess if
> your mixing tracks that
> really cant go into each other.
> 
> > From: 
> > Reply-To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 11:33:57 -0800
> > To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures
> from Elektron Party!
> > 
> > i think that the most important thing for a
> dj to do is engage the crowd.
> > there are plenty of big named dj's that can't
> beat match to save there
> > life's(though most can, for the most part),
> but i think in a "party
> > atmosphere" most people don't really care if
> the mixing sucks just as long as
> > the" vibe's"  there. now listening to
> something  on a cd or mp3 is complete
> > different because your not in the atmosphere
> of the party, your just sitting
> > around in front of a computer(more than
> likely for these mp3's), where your
> > paying attention more to the music then the
> girls/beer/drugs/whatever.
> > 
> > also splank your live pa is great!!! i have
> listened to it about 5 times now.
> > wish i could have seen it live:(... (i live
> in the us)
> > 
> > reilly
> > 
> > 
> >> he or she needs to lose the name DJ and go
> back
> >> to the bedroom and
> >> practice for another year or two.
> >> 
> >> Once they have that down, what makes a DJ
> >> good is ability to play
> >> the "correct" record that will both mix well
> >> with the previous record
> >> and keep building up the music for the sake
> of
> >> moving the 
> >> crowd/listener.  And that takes even more
> >> practice, and also the
> >> ability to read an audience... which a lot
> of
> >> DJs will never get the
> >> hang of.
> >> 
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> ) Bad mixing gets me in a fowl mood!!!!
> 
> Buck - buck - buck-kawwww!
> Dancing chickens, ducks, etc?
> 
>  - Roger

He, he, he. That's just too funny dude!!!!

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> Oh, well, most important thing; it looked like a
> great party, and next time
> I will try to come as well and combine that with a
> vacation in Sweden :))


Amen. I'll stop bitching too. It's not like I don't
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Flavio Alvarez wrote:
>> Oh, well, most important thing; it looked like a
>> great party, and next time
>> I will try to come as well and combine that with a
>> vacation in Sweden :))
> 
> 
> Amen. I'll stop bitching too. It's not like I don't
> fuck up at least twice every set.

hehehehe... but you know when to stop ;-)

Gert

On Wed Nov 06 2002, Flavio Alvarez <srminimo@...> wrote:

> Amen. I'll stop bitching too. It's not like I don't
> fuck up at least twice every set.

Amen. If you happen to drop by Gothenburg let's take a DJ battle at my
place. :)

/Janne, rearranging his studio/livingroom

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                                      .

> Amen. If you happen to drop by Gothenburg let's take
> a DJ battle at my
> place. :)
> 
You're on!!!
Cheers
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Zombie Nation live show mp3 is not there any more..:-(
I am glad that I got it ;�)

timo

Hi!

Jesus, it's exactly what I planned to download a few minutes ago... 
is there any way of getting it, now?

Damn it!

Bye!

--- In elektron-users@y..., Timo <tneronen@p...> wrote:

> Zombie Nation live show mp3 is not there any more..:-(
> I am glad that I got it ;‹)
> 
> timo

Hehehehe !

Zombie Nation




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Von: valladoliddiego [mailto:valladoliddiego@...]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. November 2002 20:33
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!


Hi!

Jesus, it's exactly what I planned to download a few minutes ago...
is there any way of getting it, now?

Damn it!

Bye!

--- In elektron-users@y..., Timo <tneronen@p...> wrote:
> Zombie Nation live show mp3 is not there any more..:-(
> I am glad that I got it ;\ufffd)
>
> timo




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--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hehehehe !
> 
> Zombie Nation
> 

  Let me guess, they record w/o your permission?

Hi!

Jesus... are you Zombie Nation!?

My last message was sent too early, because I type with my elbows 
and I somehow pressed "enter" without having ended it. I planned to 
state that I'm ok with that erasing, and that I would no way try to 
get the clip by illegal means. Anyway... please?

For Elvis' sake, you Elektron people could at least erase the link, 
the way it is now makes it look very tempting...

Adeu!

--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hehehehe !
> 
> Zombie Nation
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valladoliddiego [mailto:valladoliddiego@y...]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. November 2002 20:33
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Jesus, it's exactly what I planned to download a few minutes ago...
> is there any way of getting it, now?
> 
> Damn it!
> 
> Bye!
> 
> --- In elektron-users@y..., Timo <tneronen@p...> wrote:
> > Zombie Nation live show mp3 is not there any more..:-(
> > I am glad that I got it ;‹)
> >
> > timo
> 
> 
> 
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On Thu Nov 07 2002, splank <splank@...> wrote:

> Hehehehe !
> 
> Zombie Nation

I have to admit, I am one of the bad guys who downloaded your liveset
before it was removed. :) Listening to it right now, and looking at
the pictures from the party made me wonder one thing.

Was everything done with only Elektron equipment? Any additional
synths? From the pictures I could only see two Sidstations and one
Machinedrum.

Curios.

/Janne

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Lol... =: D
at Zombies Live You constantly hear Sids noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey ZN... you had a very funny voice when you talke/sang live at the
"""Eledjon""" party ...
Was it done in purpose, maybe you are shy (don't laugh, i am!) or you were
already drunk (i am always) ...
Nivce Live...

Moren.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janne G:son Berg [mailto:d3berg@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:27 AM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
> On Thu Nov 07 2002, splank <splank@...> wrote:
>
> > Hehehehe !
> >
> > Zombie Nation
>
> I have to admit, I am one of the bad guys who downloaded your liveset
> before it was removed. :) Listening to it right now, and looking at
> the pictures from the party made me wonder one thing.
>
> Was everything done with only Elektron equipment? Any additional
> synths? From the pictures I could only see two Sidstations and one
> Machinedrum.
>
> Curios.
>
> /Janne
>
> --
> Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
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>
>
>
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Hey!

@ Renga Moreno
Ye, right! I am shy sometimes ...and so I decided not to sing too much.

@ Janne
The first 15-20 minutes were elektron only, then I continued
with the MPC4000 mainly.
Of course as long as the link was
there everybody could download it. There\ufffds nothing to feel bad about :)


Splank



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An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
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Lol... =: D
at Zombies Live You constantly hear Sids noise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey ZN... you had a very funny voice when you talke/sang live at the
"""Eledjon""" party ...
Was it done in purpose, maybe you are shy (don't laugh, i am!) or you were
already drunk (i am always) ...
Nivce Live...

Moren.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janne G:son Berg [mailto:d3berg@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 10:27 AM
> To: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
> On Thu Nov 07 2002, splank <splank@...> wrote:
>
> > Hehehehe !
> >
> > Zombie Nation
>
> I have to admit, I am one of the bad guys who downloaded your liveset
> before it was removed. :) Listening to it right now, and looking at
> the pictures from the party made me wonder one thing.
>
> Was everything done with only Elektron equipment? Any additional
> synths? From the pictures I could only see two Sidstations and one
> Machinedrum.
>
> Curios.
>
> /Janne
>
> --
> Janne G:son Berg, d3berg@...
> http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/~d3berg
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splank wrote:
.
> Of course as long as the link was
> there everybody could download it. There\ufffds nothing to feel bad about

I'm still wondering why you took it away????

Gert

Well, I don\ufffdt want a 45 minute high quality MP3 of my liveset on the web to
download.
Not even if people would pay for it. It\ufffds also not a general anti-mp3
opinion.
The stuff I played was intended for the moment of the liveset,
it was arranged in that moment and for the place and the people.

And If I want to record something for public release, I will do it.
Then It will be for that special surrounding/occasion.

Mental Property is all you have as artist. I can decide what to "release"
and when.
If you are musician you will understand this.

It\ufffds no big deal, Daniel from Elektron and me just misunderstood each other
regarding this.

I hope you understand.
Splank







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Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2002 19:41
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!


splank wrote:
.
> Of course as long as the link was
> there everybody could download it. There\ufffds nothing to feel bad about

I'm still wondering why you took it away????

Gert





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splank wrote:
> Well, I don\ufffdt want a 45 minute high quality MP3 of my liveset on the
> web to download.
> Not even if people would pay for it. It\ufffds also not a general anti-mp3
> opinion.
> The stuff I played was intended for the moment of the liveset,
> it was arranged in that moment and for the place and the people.
>
> And If I want to record something for public release, I will do it.
> Then It will be for that special surrounding/occasion.
>
> Mental Property is all you have as artist. I can decide what to
> "release" and when.
> If you are musician you will understand this.
>
> It\ufffds no big deal, Daniel from Elektron and me just misunderstood each
> other regarding this.
>
> I hope you understand.
> Splank

Thanx for explaining this so clearly, splank. I am a musician too, and I
understand and respect your opinion.

I was just asking myself what I would have done, if I had played there. I
gues I probably would have put a part of the gig on the net - if it was any
good, of course. Well, maybe there will be a party again, and they will
invite me, then we will know ;-))

Cheers,

Gert

Although i understand your reasons completely for removing the 
set, hearing it has now me a fan of your music (it's an absolutely 
awesome set!) and i will actively try to go and see you play 
whenever i get the chance to (ever play in London?).









--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> Well, I don´t want a 45 minute high quality MP3 of my liveset on 
the web to
> download.
> Not even if people would pay for it. It´s also not a general 
anti-mp3
> opinion.
> The stuff I played was intended for the moment of the liveset,
> it was arranged in that moment and for the place and the 
people.
> 
> And If I want to record something for public release, I will do it.
> Then It will be for that special surrounding/occasion.
> 
> Mental Property is all you have as artist. I can decide what to 
"release"
> and when.
> If you are musician you will understand this.
> 
> It´s no big deal, Daniel from Elektron and me just 
misunderstood each other
> regarding this.
> 
> I hope you understand.
> Splank
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gert van Santen [mailto:g.vansanten@c...]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2002 19:41
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> 
> 
> splank wrote:
> .
> > Of course as long as the link was
> > there everybody could download it. There´s nothing to feel 
bad about
> 
> I'm still wondering why you took it away????
> 
> Gert
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Let\ufffds keep the frequency clear.
please send all further emails regarding this to: splank@...

My small London Story for buzzard2uk:
Yes, I played in London once at stinky Ministry of Sound club.
But it was only a promotional 15 minutes set.
The Ministry of Sound guys ripped our fee, Paul &"%\ufffd$ Oakenfold
played our "hit" 5 minutes before our show (obviousely I was only there
to play that song, so it sucked even more). When we went into the
club to start playing there were 15 partypeople on stage trying out
the knobs ouf our gear because there was no security.
After this shock we needed some rest. But even the the 5 square
meter backstage-room was full of 7 dancers, so there was no space for us.
So see: I am traumatized :)

Ciao
Splank



-----Urspr\ufffdngliche Nachricht-----
Von: buzzard2uk [mailto:nosebleed@...]
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2002 21:50
An: elektron-users@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!


Although i understand your reasons completely for removing the
set, hearing it has now me a fan of your music (it's an absolutely
awesome set!) and i will actively try to go and see you play
whenever i get the chance to (ever play in London?).









--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
>
> Well, I don\ufffdt want a 45 minute high quality MP3 of my liveset on
the web to
> download.
> Not even if people would pay for it. It\ufffds also not a general
anti-mp3
> opinion.
> The stuff I played was intended for the moment of the liveset,
> it was arranged in that moment and for the place and the
people.
>
> And If I want to record something for public release, I will do it.
> Then It will be for that special surrounding/occasion.
>
> Mental Property is all you have as artist. I can decide what to
"release"
> and when.
> If you are musician you will understand this.
>
> It\ufffds no big deal, Daniel from Elektron and me just
misunderstood each other
> regarding this.
>
> I hope you understand.
> Splank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Urspr\ufffdngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Gert van Santen [mailto:g.vansanten@c...]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 8. November 2002 19:41
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
>
>
> splank wrote:
> .
> > Of course as long as the link was
> > there everybody could download it. There\ufffds nothing to feel
bad about
>
> I'm still wondering why you took it away????
>
> Gert
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/




Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

I'd like to say that your set was the neatest splank.  Wish I could
have been there.  I guess the word is cool! or great! or super!

POW!
  
--- In elektron-users@y..., "splank" <splank@z...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hehehehe !
> 
> Zombie Nation
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: valladoliddiego [mailto:valladoliddiego@y...]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. November 2002 20:33
> An: elektron-users@y...
> Betreff: Re: [elektron] MP3s and pictures from Elektron Party!
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Jesus, it's exactly what I planned to download a few minutes ago...
> is there any way of getting it, now?
> 
> Damn it!
> 
> Bye!
> 
> --- In elektron-users@y..., Timo <tneronen@p...> wrote:
> > Zombie Nation live show mp3 is not there any more..:-(
> > I am glad that I got it ;‹)
> >
> > timo
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

"The first 15-20 minutes were elektron only, then I continued
with the MPC4000 mainly."

You're a luky wanker.jk)  How does the mpc treat you?

But something that has been online will be online...

> Well, I don´t want a 45 minute high quality MP3 of my liveset on the web to
> download.
> Not even if people would pay for it. It´s also not a general anti-mp3
> opinion.
> The stuff I played was intended for the moment of the liveset,
> it was arranged in that moment and for the place and the people.
> 
> And If I want to record something for public release, I will do it.
> Then It will be for that special surrounding/occasion.
> 
> Mental Property is all you have as artist. I can decide what to "release"
> and when.
> If you are musician you will understand this.
> 
> It´s no big deal, Daniel from Elektron and me just misunderstood each other
> regarding this.
> 
> I hope you understand.
> Splank

> Both Thomas (the other member of Valve and my cousin) and I have been 
> making electronic music since the late eighties, but none of us have 
> released any records within this genre. 

Us bedroom-musicians should form a more cohesive scene, you know?
like all hang out in the same bedroom for concerts.  and have
concerts once per month on the internet where everyone plays a 
half-hour set and the listeners all tune their web-listeners to
the stations...I would like to be part of a scene like that.

-N


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