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2004-12-30 by Julie Larson
Hi everyone, I hope you're all having a great holiday season. I'm looking into a buying a new audio interface for my powerbook. I need to keep things fairly portable so I think I've narrowed it down to Motu's 828MKII, and RME's Hammerfall multiface/cardbus. Is there any advantage to pcmcia over firewire or vise versa? Thanks for any input. julie www.julielarson.net
2004-12-30 by Murray McDowall
Julie Larson wrote: > > Hi everyone, > I hope you're all having a great holiday season. I'm looking into a > buying a new audio interface for my powerbook. I need to keep things > fairly portable so I think I've narrowed it down to Motu's 828MKII, and > RME's Hammerfall multiface/cardbus. Is there any advantage to pcmcia > over firewire or vise versa? Thanks for any input. One issue to consider is that Cardbus is a soon to be obsolete feature on laptops. PCIe has a cheaper and better alternative so you might find that the cardbus adapter will not work with new laptops within a year or so. Firewire might be less solid as an interface but I think it will be around for a long time as a port on new hardware. RME's Fireface is possibly worth considering if you were going with that companies products although it is more expensive. I suspect that the forthcoming obsolescence of both PCI and Cardbus (PC Card/PCMCIA) goes some way toward explaining the plethora or Firewire interfaces on the market these days - that and the desirability of connecting the same audio hardware to desktop and portable systems and the fact that you don't need to crack open the case and install a hardware card in the case of a PCI card. Cardbus RME works really well for me on PC and for lots of Mac users too from all reports on the RME company forum. Regards, Murray
2004-12-30 by Fernstudio
Hi Julie, On 29-Dec-04, at 6:07 PM, Julie Larson wrote: > Hi everyone, > I hope you're all having a great holiday season. I'm looking into a > buying a new audio interface for my powerbook. I need to keep things > fairly portable so I think I've narrowed it down to Motu's 828MKII, > and > RME's Hammerfall multiface/cardbus. Is there any advantage to pcmcia > over firewire or vise versa? Thanks for any input. I'm using an 828 MkII with my Powerbook and it has been flawless. Great routing features and it sounds good also. There are other options such as the Mobile I/O which sound better but also cost more. I believe that people have reported good things about the RME solution as well. Performance has been great for me thus far and the drivers are stable on OSX. HTH, Fernstudio [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-12-30 by Gareth Jones
At 8:07 pm -0600 29/12/04, Julie Larson wrote: >Hi everyone, >I hope you're all having a great holiday season. I'm looking into a >buying a new audio interface for my powerbook. I need to keep things >fairly portable so I think I've narrowed it down to Motu's 828MKII, and >RME's Hammerfall multiface/cardbus. Is there any advantage to pcmcia >over firewire or vise versa? Thanks for any input. I have Hammerfall Cardbus and Fireface I get better performance out of the Cardbus system (I can run more complex mixes on it...) fwiw -- Best Regards, Gareth Jones http://www.garethjones.com
2004-12-30 by Hans Hafner
At 9:01 Uhr +0000 30.12.2004, Gareth Jones wrote: >I have Hammerfall Cardbus and Fireface > >I get better performance out of the Cardbus system (I can run more >complex mixes on it...) Agreed, I'm running the drives on the cardbus and the performance is better than running both audio interface and drives on the same bus. And for the 40 bucks I paid for the PCMCIA Firewire controller it was really cheap too. So I would suggest a Firewire audio interface and a Firewire PCMCIA controller to get another bus. Cheers Hans
2004-12-30 by Julie Larson
Hi Gareth, Thanks a bunch for responding. Are you running your hard drives and your Fireface on the same bus as Hans suggested? Or, all things being equal, are you simply getting better performance from pcmcia? Thanks, julie On Dec 30, 2004, at 3:01 AM, Gareth Jones wrote: > > I have Hammerfall Cardbus and Fireface > > I get better performance out of the Cardbus system (I can run more > complex mixes on it...) > > fwiw > > > > -- > Best Regards, > Gareth Jones > > http://www.garethjones.com > > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > ������������������������� EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <121504_y1204_a_300250a.gif> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > www.julielarson.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-12-30 by Hans Hafner
At 8:31 Uhr -0600 30.12.2004, Julie Larson wrote: >Hi Gareth, >Thanks a bunch for responding. Are you running your hard drives and >your Fireface on the same bus as Hans suggested? Or, all things being >equal, are you simply getting better performance from pcmcia? Sorry, you misunderstood. I was suggesting exactly the opposite. Again: Buy a FW interface and run it of the internal built-in FW port Get a cheap $40 PCMCIA FW controller (this is a little card that will add more FW ports to the PCMCIA) and run the drives there. If I'm still not clear, please ask again. Cheers Hans
2004-12-30 by Julie Larson
Thanks Hans, I'm sorry. My message was ambiguous. I understand what you're saying. I'm not sure if I understand what Gareth was saying. Gareth wrote >I have Hammerfall Cardbus and Fireface > >I get better performance out of the Cardbus system (I can run more >complex mixes on it...) I understood Gareth to say that he was getting better performance with his PCMCIA cardbus interface than his 800 Fireface interface. I'm trying to determine if the inferior firewire performance he is experiencing is caused by running his firewire interface on the same bus as his hard drives.....or if PCMCIA is just better in his experience? I really appreciate all the help. Julie > Sorry, you misunderstood. I was suggesting exactly the opposite. > > Again: > > Buy a FW interface and run it of the internal built-in FW port > > Get a cheap $40 PCMCIA FW controller (this is a little card that will > add more FW ports to the PCMCIA) and run the drives there. > > If I'm still not clear, please ask again. > > Cheers > Hans > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > ������������������������� EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <lrec_barbell_d21_120204.jpg> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > www.julielarson.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-12-30 by Gareth Jones
At 10:01 am -0600 30/12/04, Julie Larson wrote: >Thanks Hans, >I'm sorry. My message was ambiguous. I understand what you're saying. >I'm not sure if I understand what Gareth was saying. > >Gareth wrote > > >I have Hammerfall Cardbus and Fireface > > > >I get better performance out of the Cardbus system (I can run more > >complex mixes on it...) > >I understood Gareth to say that he was getting better performance with >his PCMCIA cardbus interface than his 800 Fireface interface. I'm >trying to determine if the inferior firewire performance he is >experiencing is caused by running his firewire interface on the same >bus as his hard drives.....or if PCMCIA is just better in his >experience? > >I really appreciate all the help. > >Julie > > > > >> Sorry, you misunderstood. I was suggesting exactly the opposite. >> >> Again: >> >> Buy a FW interface and run it of the internal built-in FW port >> >> Get a cheap $40 PCMCIA FW controller (this is a little card that will >> add more FW ports to the PCMCIA) and run the drives there. >> >> If I'm still not clear, please ask again. >> >> Cheers > > Hans Hans is certainly giving good advice - and I purchased a PC card Firewire Interface so I could get more Firewire busses However I *still* find that I get better performance out of the Hammerfall Cardbus Interface Perhaps the Driver for the Hammerfall is more efficient? I should add that I am really pushing the capabilities of the system here - running 48+ tracks and more on my laptop as well as a TC Powercore and loads of internal processing. I would like to use the Fireface for this work (more i/o and future orientated) but I did extensive testing at the start of the 2 LP mixing projects I am doing right now and could not get the same performance out of the Fireface as out of my old Hammerfall/CardBus As always others may report a different experience. -- Best Regards, Gareth Jones http://www.garethjones.com
2004-12-30 by Hans Hafner
At 17:21 Uhr +0000 30.12.2004, Gareth Jones wrote: >However I *still* find that I get better performance out of the >Hammerfall Cardbus Interface > >Perhaps the Driver for the Hammerfall is more efficient? That may very well be, and can only be found out by trying... sorry... I seem to misunderstand too a lot of the times... :-) Cheers Hans
2005-01-04 by Julie Larson
Thanks Murray, I've been burrowing around on the web trying to find out more about this....I think I should hold off on a purchase until after MacWorld. I'm really not sure that firewire is up to what I'm putting through it. I'd like to hear more though. When you look at the numbers they really aren't comparable. regards, julie On Dec 29, 2004, at 10:02 PM, Murray McDowall wrote: > > One issue to consider is that Cardbus is a soon to be obsolete > feature on > laptops. PCIe has a cheaper and better alternative so you might find > that the > cardbus adapter will not work with new laptops within a year or so. > Firewire > might be less solid as an interface but I think it will be around for > a long > time as a port on new hardware. RME's Fireface is possibly worth > considering if > you were going with that companies products although it is more > expensive. > > I suspect that the forthcoming obsolescence of both PCI and Cardbus > (PC > Card/PCMCIA) goes some way toward explaining the plethora or Firewire > interfaces on the market these days - that and the desirability of > connecting > the same audio hardware to desktop and portable systems and the fact > that you > don't need to crack open the case and install a hardware card in the > case of a > PCI card. > > Cardbus RME works really well for me on PC and for lots of Mac users > too from > all reports on the RME company forum. > > Regards, > Murray > > > ____________________________________________________________________ > ������������������������� EXS* Users Group > - To UNSUBSCRIBE: email exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > - EXS/Logic FAQ: http://logicfaq.omega-art.com/ > - Free legal samples: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/links/ > - To contact list admins, email exs-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <lrec_companion_043004.gif> > <l.gif> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/exs-users/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > exs-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > www.julielarson.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]