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Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was 
wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good 
soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-$800 
for a nice soundcard.

     I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has 
a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE 
and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated.

J

On 03-12-16 06.56,  "Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@...> wrote:

>    Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was
> wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good
> soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-$800
> for a nice soundcard.
> 
>    I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has
> a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE
> and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated.
> 
> J


Hi,

I have heard such good things about the RME Multiface that I ordered one to
use with my Mac G5 (PCI interface) in the studio and also with PC laptops
for concerts (card-bus interface). Mine has not arrived yet, though. I'm not
quite sure it sends out analog smpte signal. In fact I have always used
special smpte generators for doing that - if I have to record a smpte stripe
to some media.

If you're seriously interested in an opinion on the RME box pleas get back
to me in a month or so. I should know by then ;-)

-- 
Best wishes

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.looproom.com

Thank you for the info, I'm checking out the RME site right now. It 
looks pretty good so far! :)

J

--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Per Boysen <per@b...> wrote:
> On 03-12-16 06.56,  "Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@y...> wrote:
> 
> >    Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was
> > wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a 
good
> > soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-
$800
> > for a nice soundcard.
> > 
> >    I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it 
has
> > a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE
> > and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated.
> > 
> > J
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have heard such good things about the RME Multiface that I 
ordered one to
> use with my Mac G5 (PCI interface) in the studio and also with PC 
laptops
> for concerts (card-bus interface). Mine has not arrived yet, 
though. I'm not
> quite sure it sends out analog smpte signal. In fact I have always 
used
> special smpte generators for doing that - if I have to record a 
smpte stripe
> to some media.
> 
> If you're seriously interested in an opinion on the RME box pleas 
get back

> to me in a month or so. I should know by then ;-)
> 
> -- 
> Best wishes
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se
> www.looproom.com

> On 03-12-16 06.56,  "Jean Luc De Lorme" <atomicdream@...> wrote:
> 
>>    Hello, Iam a newbie to the MAC world and to Logic. I was
>> wondering if anyone could steer my in the right direction for a good
>> soundcard to use with my MAC G5. I'm willing to spend about $500-$800
>> for a nice soundcard.
>> 
>>    I was looking at the MOTU 828 series, but I've heard that it has
>> a lot of bugs in it. I want a good MDID interface along with SMTPE
>> and audio in and out. Any info is appreciated.
>> 
>> J
If you want no latency : get a MOTU PCI 424/G5 system (see depending of the
number of ins/out what you need)
Buying a FW audio interface is not good for BIG projects especially if you
have a second FW device like a disk.
I own a Motu system with 54 ins and 12 outs made with (PCI 424/G5,
1296+2048MKII+24i)

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with Ritmo AU).

http://www.jonzaremba.com/strength_without_unity.mp3

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> http://www.jonzaremba.com/strength_without_unity.mp3

Nice!
Put a smile on my face at least..;-)
I can imagine this being used as a soundtrack in an absurd 
violent/comic movie, like 'kill bill' or the likes.
ok ok, every reaction should have a point of critique to, I know...
Well, maybe the tempo-slow down in the middle could have been dressed 
up a bit, musically. But then again, maybe not!

Cheers!

Arvid.

You might want to read this:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16540-2003Dec19.html

The problem is that this kid used his iPod every day for hours and 
Lord only knows how many times he re-charged it.  The average user 
might get 3 - 4 (or more) years of life from an iPod (more than most 
people get from their Walkman, Discman, or their outdated Rio mp3 
player they bought several years ago) so in my opinion he does not 
represent the general population. 

Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out.  But Apple will 
fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended 
warranty.  Honestly though, I think after a few years most people 
will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone.  Their becoming 
commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players).



--- In logic-ot@yahoogroups.com, Murray McDowall <murraymc@m...> 
wrote:

> You might want to read this:
> 
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A16540-2003Dec19.html

dfusion2000@... wrote:

>Yeah, it sucks to know the battery will crap out.  But Apple will 
>fix it for free if it happens in a year or you can buy an extended 
>warranty.  Honestly though, I think after a few years most people 
>will buy a new one, like getting a new cell phone.  Their becoming 
>commodity (cell phones AND mp3 players).

The point of the article in the link was that Apple originally did not
offer  replacement batteries. The guy at the centre of the story was amazed
and disgusted that they just wanted him to junk the unit and buy another.
He and his brother then applied a little pressure through the multimedia
dramatisation they created and,  lo and behold, Apple came up with a change
in policy. NOW they do offer a battery replacement scheme.

There is a class action law suit against Apple, and apple is offering to 
replace ipod batteries for $99. I read somewhere that said after a year and half 
the batteries go bad. I paid $499 for my 30g and its not going in the trash any 
time soon. My battery acts a little strange at times, but it seems to be ok 
despite being 1.5 years old. Its the main place for me to listen to music - 
while biking or walking.

On 1/12/04 3:40 PM, "logic-ot@yahoogroups.com" <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> Original Message:
>  Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2004 16:08:58 EST
>  From: TazmnianDv@...
> Subject: Re: Re: Do you have an iPod or have you considered buying one?
> 
> There is a class action law suit against Apple, and apple is offering to
> replace ipod batteries for $99. I read somewhere that said after a year and
> half 
> the batteries go bad. I paid $499 for my 30g and its not going in the trash
> any 
> time soon. My battery acts a little strange at times, but it seems to be ok
> despite being 1.5 years old. Its the main place for me to listen to music -
> while biking or walking.

I wouldn't own one if you gave it too me, but apparently the iPods'
batteries have ALL been going dead shortly after 18 months.  Someone in NYC
discovered this and after going a round or two with Apple Tech Support and
being told he should just resolve to buy a new one, this guy started making
posters and plastering them all around the city, stating simply that the
un-replaceable batteries go dead after 18 months and Apple won't fix it.
Then, lawsuits against Apple were rumored, upon which Apple was rumored to
have started a replacement program.  BUT, if you're willing to pay $99 to
keep your music fresh every 18 months, remember you still have to have it
backed up elsewhere, because when the battery dies, the music goes too, and
must be reloaded *if* you get a new battery.  Hardly worth the time or the
investment(s), IMO.  d:p~~~

Best regards,
...z


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On Jan 12, 2004, at 5:56 PM, Zeek Duff wrote:

> Then, lawsuits against Apple were rumored, upon which Apple was 
> rumored to
> have started a replacement program.  BUT, if you're willing to pay $99 
> to

I'd just like to point out that Apple now offers a $50 AppleCare plan 
for the iPod that extends the warranty from 1 year to 3 years. Under 
the extended warranty, depleted batteries are replaced for free.

Note, however, that depleted batteries are NOT replaced for free under 
the original hardware warranty, just the extended AppleCare warranty, 
which I was told last week by an Apple rep who conveniently called me 
as my 1 year PowerBook warranty was expiring. (Gotta love the "Your 
warrant is expiring, would you like to buy AppleCare now?" calls :)

Yeah, $50 is another $50, but for 3 years of no-worry about the 
battery, at a cost of 5 CDs from the Music Store, I'll be buying it in 
the next couple of weeks.

> keep your music fresh every 18 months, remember you still have to have 
> it
> backed up elsewhere, because when the battery dies, the music goes 
> too, and
> must be reloaded *if* you get a new battery.  Hardly worth the time or 
> the

If you use the iPod with iTunes then all of your music exists both on 
your hard drive with iTunes and on the iPod, so if you have to replace 
the battery or fully-reset the iPod your music is still safe on your 
hard-drive (unless you manage to have both your iPod and computer all 
fail at the same time and lose all data).

> I wouldn't own one if you gave it too me, but apparently the iPods'
> batteries have ALL been going dead shortly after 18 months.

Sorry. I have to amke a comment here. ALL? I think that you'll find that
statement to be completey untrue. Please don't post opinion or hearsay as
fact.

> BUT, if you're willing to pay $99 to
> keep your music fresh every 18 months, remember you still have to have it
> backed up elsewhere, because when the battery dies, the music goes too.

Are you sure about this? Does your PC's hard drive get wiped everytime you
switch it off? Sure, it makes sense to backup the iPods contents just as
you would any other device. That said - how do you get audio onto the iPod
in the first place? By synching it with your PC in most cases - so most
users may well already have their "backup".

>I wouldn't own one if you gave it too me,

Shucks and I had been planning to give you one too...

>but apparently the iPods'
>batteries have ALL been going dead shortly after 18 months.

This is nonsense.  I know people who have been using the original 
version since it came out.  It totally depends on the usage. 
Rechargeable batteries in anything give out eventually

>   Someone in NYC
>discovered this and after going a round or two with Apple Tech Support and
>being told he should just resolve to buy a new one, this guy started making
>posters and plastering them all around the city, stating simply that the
>un-replaceable batteries go dead after 18 months and Apple won't fix it.

The thing is he is full of shit on several points like for example 
the "un-replaceable" one (look here: http://www.ipodbattery.com/ ) 
and it has been pointed out numerous times but I guess hysteria loves 
company....

>Then, lawsuits against Apple were rumored, upon which Apple was rumored to
>have started a replacement program.  BUT, if you're willing to pay $99 to
>keep your music fresh every 18 months, remember you still have to have it
>backed up elsewhere, because when the battery dies, the music goes too, and
>must be reloaded *if* you get a new battery.  Hardly worth the time or the
>investment(s), IMO.  d:p~~~

You can find batteries for 50 bucks if you look.

Honestly the hysteria about this is insane.

> I wouldn't own one if you gave it too me, but apparently the iPods'
> batteries have ALL been going dead shortly after 18 months.  

i had a first gen 10 gig'er that was perfect until i dropped it really
hard about a month ago, and then i got a completely new one on my
warranty. never had a battery problem with it at all.



> Someone in NYC
> discovered this and after going a round or two with Apple Tech
Support and
> being told he should just resolve to buy a new one, this guy started
making
> posters and plastering them all around the city, 

Funny, i work and play in NYC almost every single day, up town,
midtown and downtown and i havent seen a single poster. he would have
to be REALLY mad to put them ALL around the city. im not sure if you
have ever been here but its kind of big.

On 1/13/04 8:56 PM, "logic-ot@yahoogroups.com" <logic-ot@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:

> Original Message:
>  Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:20:14 +0900
>  From: Dennis Gunn <dennis@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Re: Do you have an iPod or have you considered buying one?
> 
>> I wouldn't own one if you gave it too me,
> 
> Shucks and I had been planning to give you one too...
> 
>> but apparently the iPods'
>> batteries have ALL been going dead shortly after 18 months.
> 
> This is nonsense.  I know people who have been using the original
> version since it came out.  It totally depends on the usage.
> Rechargeable batteries in anything give out eventually
> 
>>   Someone in NYC
>> discovered this and after going a round or two with Apple Tech Support and
>> being told he should just resolve to buy a new one, this guy started making
>> posters and plastering them all around the city, stating simply that the
>> un-replaceable batteries go dead after 18 months and Apple won't fix it.
> 
> The thing is he is full of shit on several points like for example
> the "un-replaceable" one (look here: http://www.ipodbattery.com/ )
> and it has been pointed out numerous times but I guess hysteria loves
> company....
> 
>> Then, lawsuits against Apple were rumored, upon which Apple was rumored to
>> have started a replacement program.  BUT, if you're willing to pay $99 to
>> keep your music fresh every 18 months, remember you still have to have it
>> backed up elsewhere, because when the battery dies, the music goes too, and
>> must be reloaded *if* you get a new battery.  Hardly worth the time or the
>> investment(s), IMO.  d:p~~~
> 
> You can find batteries for 50 bucks if you look.
> 
> Honestly the hysteria about this is insane.

I have to agree with that statement if all of what you say is true, and it
appears to be.  However, it was a featured news item on several national
news broadcasts.  Seems to me if there's nothing to it, Apple would have a
pretty good lawsuit against not only the NYC poster guy, but the networks
who didn't bother to check the facts, as well.  However, I still have
absolutely no use for one, so give it to someone who wants it, Dennis.  I'll
take the money it costs, though...  ;)

Best regards,
...z


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>I have to agree with that statement if all of what you say is true, and it
>appears to be.  However, it was a featured news item on several national
>news broadcasts.

Oh no!  Do you mean to tell me that the networks actually broadcast a 
news item that was erroneous or slanted or inflated purely for the 
purpose of making it appear to be a story?  I thought such things 
could never happen!

>Seems to me if there's nothing to it, Apple would have a
>pretty good lawsuit against not only the NYC poster guy, but the networks
>who didn't bother to check the facts, as well.

This is where people go wrong.  Thinking that apple would actually be 
in any way interested in pursuing such a law suit.  Whether the guy 
has a point or the whole thing is completely fatuous (and IMHO it is 
the latter) to pursue something like that legally would only give the 
gadfly more opportunity to do them damage regardless of the outcome. 
Even if a jury agreed with me that it was ridiculous and they settled 
in favor of apple (which is in no way assure, remember this is a 
country where you can sue a restaurant for giving you a cup of hot 
coffee without checking first to see if you are so stupid you will 
pour it into your own lap) any money from a settlement in apple's 
favor would still not cover a fraction of their legal fees.  And 
coming down hard on the pest to make an example of him would not do 
anything for their image.  It is a lose lose situation for apple and 
really the only option they have is the course they are taking and 
that is to do what they can to mollify the joker and wait for it to 
blow over.


>However, I still have
>absolutely no use for one, so give it to someone who wants it, Dennis.  I'll
>take the money it costs, though...  ;)

Too late, I gave it my kitty to play with.