Lpc2000

Hi,
I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash Utility and an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is shorted and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different baudrates have been tried without success. I am not sure about the DTR/RTS settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. Null modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?

Thanks in advance!
/Anders

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi,
it's not null modem cabel that should be used with this board. You 
can make it by yourself. 
Take two connectors - DB9F for PC and DB9M for the board. Connect 
pins 2, 3 and 5 of the two connectors in this way:
2 <-> 2
3 <-> 3
5 <-> 5
then plug'n'play ;-)

Regards,
Max


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash Utility and 
an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is shorted 
and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different baudrates 
have been tried without success. I am not sure about the DTR/RTS 
settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. Null 
modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?

> 
> Thanks in advance!
> /Anders
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Thanks!
/Anders


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "theothervmax" <vmax@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> it's not null modem cabel that should be used with this board. You 
> can make it by yourself. 
> Take two connectors - DB9F for PC and DB9M for the board. Connect 
> pins 2, 3 and 5 of the two connectors in this way:
> 2 <-> 2
> 3 <-> 3
> 5 <-> 5
> then plug'n'play ;-)
> 
> Regards,
> Max
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash Utility 
and 
> an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is shorted 
> and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different 
baudrates 

> have been tried without success. I am not sure about the DTR/RTS 
> settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. Null 
> modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
> bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!
> > /Anders
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Anders,

I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash utility 
(olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on this board 
to see if the problem lies with my development board.
I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file to flash, 
and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have tried many 
different com ports, jumper settings and different reset conditions, 
to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use this board, 
so i have no idea if the thing works.

I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the Philips LPC2000 
flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v low, 0v high) 
on the board and found it to receive data. 
However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and does nothing.

Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???

Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let you know your 
not alone.

cheers,

Nick

> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash Utility and 
> an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is shorted 
> and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different baudrates 
> have been tried without success. I am not sure about the DTR/RTS 
> settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. Null 
> modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
> bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance!
> > /Anders
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

Nick,

Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. Since I'm 
working from home today I do not have any other cables but I'll get 
back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As I wrote 
earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure that the 
comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a scope tomorrow. 

Best regards 
/Anders


-- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@...> wrote:
>
> Anders,
> 
> I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash utility 
> (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on this 
board 
> to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file to flash, 
> and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have tried 
many 
> different com ports, jumper settings and different reset 
conditions, 
> to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use this 
board, 
> so i have no idea if the thing works.
> 
> I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the Philips 
LPC2000 
> flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v low, 0v 
high) 
> on the board and found it to receive data. 
> However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and does 
nothing.
> 
> Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> 
> Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let you know 
your 
> not alone.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Nick
> 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash Utility 
and 
> > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is 
shorted 
> > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different 
baudrates 
> > have been tried without success. I am not sure about the DTR/RTS 
> > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. 
Null 

> > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
> > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance!
> > > /Anders
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

Anders,

You had any luck yet?

Cheers,

Nick

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Nick,
> 
> Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. Since I'm 
> working from home today I do not have any other cables but I'll get 
> back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As I wrote 
> earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure that the 
> comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a scope tomorrow. 
> 
> Best regards 
> /Anders
> 
> 
> -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> >
> > Anders,
> > 
> > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash utility 
> > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on this 
> board 
> > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file to 
flash, 
> > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have tried 
> many 
> > different com ports, jumper settings and different reset 
> conditions, 
> > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use this 
> board, 
> > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > 
> > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the Philips 
> LPC2000 
> > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v low, 0v 
> high) 
> > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and does 
> nothing.
> > 
> > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > 
> > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let you know 
> your 
> > not alone.
> > 
> > cheers,
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash Utility 
> and 
> > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is 
> shorted 
> > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different 
> baudrates 
> > > have been tried without success. I am not sure about the 
DTR/RTS 

> > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. 
> Null 
> > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
> > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > /Anders
> > > > 
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Nick,

It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for powering the 
board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the schematic it 
became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if this solves 
your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC utility settings.

regards
/Anders




--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@...> wrote:
>
> Anders,
> 
> You had any luck yet?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Nick
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Nick,
> > 
> > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. Since 
I'm 
> > working from home today I do not have any other cables but I'll 
get 
> > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As I wrote 
> > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure that 
the 
> > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a scope 
tomorrow. 
> > 
> > Best regards 
> > /Anders
> > 
> > 
> > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anders,
> > > 
> > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash 
utility 
> > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on this 
> > board 
> > > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file to 
> flash, 
> > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have tried 
> > many 
> > > different com ports, jumper settings and different reset 
> > conditions, 
> > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use this 
> > board, 
> > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > 
> > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the Philips 
> > LPC2000 
> > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v low, 0v 
> > high) 
> > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and does 
> > nothing.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > 
> > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let you 
know 
> > your 
> > > not alone.
> > > 
> > > cheers,
> > > 
> > > Nick
> > > 
> > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@> 
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash 
Utility 

> > and 
> > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is 
> > shorted 
> > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different 
> > baudrates 
> > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure about the 
> DTR/RTS 
> > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 cable. 
> > Null 
> > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
> > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > /Anders
> > > > > 
> > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Anders,

Great to hear you got your board working! I have not tried upping the 
voltage as yet, will give it a try later. The only thing that stopped 
me thinking that the voltage would make any differenct was that the 
board was getting 1.8v for the core and 3.3v for the peripherals. 

Are you saying it requires 12v for RS232?

Also, what is voltage on your Tx pin on the LPC2106 (at default)?
Regards,

Nick


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Nick,
> 
> It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for powering the 
> board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the schematic it 
> became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if this solves 
> your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC utility 
settings.
> 
> regards
> /Anders
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> >
> > Anders,
> > 
> > You had any luck yet?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Nick,
> > > 
> > > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. Since 
> I'm 
> > > working from home today I do not have any other cables but I'll 
> get 
> > > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As I wrote 
> > > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure that 
> the 
> > > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a scope 
> tomorrow. 
> > > 
> > > Best regards 
> > > /Anders
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anders,
> > > > 
> > > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash 
> utility 
> > > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on 
this 
> > > board 
> > > > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file to 
> > flash, 
> > > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have 
tried 
> > > many 
> > > > different com ports, jumper settings and different reset 
> > > conditions, 
> > > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use this 
> > > board, 
> > > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > > 
> > > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the Philips 
> > > LPC2000 
> > > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v low, 
0v 
> > > high) 
> > > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and does 
> > > nothing.
> > > > 
> > > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > > 
> > > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let you 
> know 
> > > your 
> > > > not alone.
> > > > 
> > > > cheers,
> > > > 
> > > > Nick
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" <akj@> 
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash 
> Utility 
> > > and 
> > > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper is 
> > > shorted 
> > > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). Different 
> > > baudrates 
> > > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure about the 
> > DTR/RTS 
> > > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 
cable. 

> > > Null 
> > > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use the 
> > > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Nick,

I get 0V on the TX pin at 9V.
It is clear from the schematic that the board won't work at 9V. I 
was also a bit afraid of upping the voltage as the current increased 
a lot. The trick is to start at 12V since the regulators draw very 
much current when fed below nominal voltage. After the rectifying 
bridge there is 7805(and the schematic says 12V there!). There is 
also a 1N4733 5V zener-diode. Thus, att 9V there's only 4V left for 
the LM1117 3.3V regulator which has a minimum voltage drop of about 
1.0-1.2V minimum (4.3-4.5V in). The core may get the correct voltage 
but the peripherals won't. 

Cheers
/Anders





--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@...> wrote:
>
> Anders,
> 
> Great to hear you got your board working! I have not tried upping 
the 
> voltage as yet, will give it a try later. The only thing that 
stopped 
> me thinking that the voltage would make any differenct was that 
the 
> board was getting 1.8v for the core and 3.3v for the peripherals. 
> 
> Are you saying it requires 12v for RS232?
> 
> Also, what is voltage on your Tx pin on the LPC2106 (at default)?
> Regards,
> 
> Nick
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > Nick,
> > 
> > It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for powering the 
> > board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the schematic 
it 
> > became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if this 
solves 
> > your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC utility 
> settings.
> > 
> > regards
> > /Anders
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anders,
> > > 
> > > You had any luck yet?
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > > 
> > > Nick
> > > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Nick,
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. 
Since 
> > I'm 
> > > > working from home today I do not have any other cables but 
I'll 
> > get 
> > > > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As I 
wrote 
> > > > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure 
that 
> > the 
> > > > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a scope 
> > tomorrow. 
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards 
> > > > /Anders
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anders,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash 
> > utility 
> > > > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on 
> this 
> > > > board 
> > > > > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > > > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file 
to 
> > > flash, 
> > > > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have 
> tried 
> > > > many 
> > > > > different com ports, jumper settings and different reset 
> > > > conditions, 
> > > > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use 
this 
> > > > board, 
> > > > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the 
Philips 
> > > > LPC2000 
> > > > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v 
low, 
> 0v 
> > > > high) 
> > > > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and 
does 
> > > > nothing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > > > 
> > > > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let you 
> > know 
> > > > your 
> > > > > not alone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nick
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" 
<akj@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash 
> > Utility 
> > > > and 
> > > > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper 
is 
> > > > shorted 
> > > > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). 
Different 
> > > > baudrates 
> > > > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure about the 
> > > DTR/RTS 
> > > > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 
> cable. 
> > > > Null 
> > > > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use 
the 

> > > > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Anders,

I actually have the P2106 board and not the 2106mt board. I 
originally did not think the problem with the boot loader was 
anything hardware. 

I'm not sure if this will sort out the problem with my board, as 
there is no need to have the voltage as high as 12v (as far as i can 
see).
I will still give this a go though.

You say at 9 v your Tx line is 0v. What is it at 12v?
Just trying to tie things together here. At work at the moment and 
can't test things till I get home.

Thanks for all your help.

Nick

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@...> wrote:
>
> Nick,
> 
> I get 0V on the TX pin at 9V.
> It is clear from the schematic that the board won't work at 9V. I 
> was also a bit afraid of upping the voltage as the current 
increased 
> a lot. The trick is to start at 12V since the regulators draw very 
> much current when fed below nominal voltage. After the rectifying 
> bridge there is 7805(and the schematic says 12V there!). There is 
> also a 1N4733 5V zener-diode. Thus, att 9V there's only 4V left for 
> the LM1117 3.3V regulator which has a minimum voltage drop of about 
> 1.0-1.2V minimum (4.3-4.5V in). The core may get the correct 
voltage 
> but the peripherals won't. 
> 
> Cheers
> /Anders
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> >
> > Anders,
> > 
> > Great to hear you got your board working! I have not tried upping 
> the 
> > voltage as yet, will give it a try later. The only thing that 
> stopped 
> > me thinking that the voltage would make any differenct was that 
> the 
> > board was getting 1.8v for the core and 3.3v for the peripherals. 
> > 
> > Are you saying it requires 12v for RS232?
> > 
> > Also, what is voltage on your Tx pin on the LPC2106 (at default)?
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Nick,
> > > 
> > > It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for powering the 
> > > board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the 
schematic 
> it 
> > > became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if this 
> solves 
> > > your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC utility 
> > settings.
> > > 
> > > regards
> > > /Anders
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@...m, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anders,
> > > > 
> > > > You had any luck yet?
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > > Nick
> > > > 
> > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nick,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. 
> Since 
> > > I'm 
> > > > > working from home today I do not have any other cables but 
> I'll 
> > > get 
> > > > > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As I 
> wrote 
> > > > > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure 
> that 
> > > the 
> > > > > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a scope 
> > > tomorrow. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Best regards 
> > > > > /Anders
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 flash 
> > > utility 
> > > > > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message on 
> > this 
> > > > > board 
> > > > > > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > > > > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex file 
> to 
> > > > flash, 
> > > > > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too have 
> > tried 
> > > > > many 
> > > > > > different com ports, jumper settings and different reset 
> > > > > conditions, 
> > > > > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to use 
> this 
> > > > > board, 
> > > > > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the 
> Philips 
> > > > > LPC2000 
> > > > > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v 
> low, 
> > 0v 
> > > > > high) 
> > > > > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > > > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and 
> does 
> > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let 
you 
> > > know 
> > > > > your 
> > > > > > not alone.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" 
> <akj@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips Flash 
> > > Utility 
> > > > > and 
> > > > > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL jumper 
> is 
> > > > > shorted 
> > > > > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). 
> Different 
> > > > > baudrates 
> > > > > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure about 
the 

> > > > DTR/RTS 
> > > > > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong RS232 
> > cable. 
> > > > > Null 
> > > > > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to use 
> the 
> > > > > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Nick

> I actually have the P2106 board and not the 2106mt board. I 
> originally did not think the problem with the boot loader was 
> anything hardware. 
> 
> I'm not sure if this will sort out the problem with my board, as 
> there is no need to have the voltage as high as 12v (as far as i can 
> see).
> I will still give this a go though.

unless you shorten the zener Z1, 9VDC will not be enough to make the
3.3V regulator work reliably (9V - 0.7V - 5.1V = 3.2V left for the 
regulators, while the minimum dropout voltage of the LM1117 is about
1.1V, thus requiring a minimum of 4.4V to produce 3.3V). So the minimum
DC requirement would be 4.4V + 5.1V + 0.7V = 10.3V for this constellation.
If you shorten Z1 by installing J1, 4.4V + 0.7V = 5.1V min. would be 
sufficient.

hth
-uwe

Nick,

I did not expect anything like this either...
I had a look at the P2106 schematics and apparently it is similar to 
the mt board in this respect. The same 5V zenerdiode followed by a 
3.3V regulator. This regulator feeds the RS232 chip, no RS232 -no 
bootloader. Both the mt and the P schematics actually say 9VAC, but 
the documentation says 6VAC 9VDC.

Good luck!
Anders



--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@...> wrote:
>
> Anders,
> 
> I actually have the P2106 board and not the 2106mt board. I 
> originally did not think the problem with the boot loader was 
> anything hardware. 
> 
> I'm not sure if this will sort out the problem with my board, as 
> there is no need to have the voltage as high as 12v (as far as i 
can 
> see).
> I will still give this a go though.
> 
> You say at 9 v your Tx line is 0v. What is it at 12v?
> Just trying to tie things together here. At work at the moment and 
> can't test things till I get home.
> 
> Thanks for all your help.
> 
> Nick
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> >
> > Nick,
> > 
> > I get 0V on the TX pin at 9V.
> > It is clear from the schematic that the board won't work at 9V. 
I 
> > was also a bit afraid of upping the voltage as the current 
> increased 
> > a lot. The trick is to start at 12V since the regulators draw 
very 
> > much current when fed below nominal voltage. After the 
rectifying 
> > bridge there is 7805(and the schematic says 12V there!). There 
is 
> > also a 1N4733 5V zener-diode. Thus, att 9V there's only 4V left 
for 
> > the LM1117 3.3V regulator which has a minimum voltage drop of 
about 
> > 1.0-1.2V minimum (4.3-4.5V in). The core may get the correct 
> voltage 
> > but the peripherals won't. 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > /Anders
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anders,
> > > 
> > > Great to hear you got your board working! I have not tried 
upping 
> > the 
> > > voltage as yet, will give it a try later. The only thing that 
> > stopped 
> > > me thinking that the voltage would make any differenct was 
that 
> > the 
> > > board was getting 1.8v for the core and 3.3v for the 
peripherals. 
> > > 
> > > Are you saying it requires 12v for RS232?
> > > 
> > > Also, what is voltage on your Tx pin on the LPC2106 (at 
default)?
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Nick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> 
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Nick,
> > > > 
> > > > It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for powering 
the 
> > > > board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the 
> schematic 
> > it 
> > > > became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if this 
> > solves 
> > > > your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC utility 
> > > settings.
> > > > 
> > > > regards
> > > > /Anders
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anders,
> > > > > 
> > > > > You had any luck yet?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nick
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nick,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 problems. 
> > Since 
> > > > I'm 
> > > > > > working from home today I do not have any other cables 
but 
> > I'll 
> > > > get 
> > > > > > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. As 
I 
> > wrote 
> > > > > > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made sure 
> > that 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a 
scope 
> > > > tomorrow. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Best regards 
> > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> 
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 
flash 
> > > > utility 
> > > > > > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a message 
on 
> > > this 
> > > > > > board 
> > > > > > > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > > > > > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex 
file 
> > to 
> > > > > flash, 
> > > > > > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too 
have 
> > > tried 
> > > > > > many 
> > > > > > > different com ports, jumper settings and different 
reset 
> > > > > > conditions, 
> > > > > > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to 
use 
> > this 
> > > > > > board, 
> > > > > > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with the 
> > Philips 
> > > > > > LPC2000 
> > > > > > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal (3.3v 
> > low, 
> > > 0v 
> > > > > > high) 
> > > > > > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > > > > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground and 
> > does 
> > > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to let 
> you 
> > > > know 
> > > > > > your 
> > > > > > > not alone.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" 
> > <akj@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips 
Flash 
> > > > Utility 
> > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL 
jumper 
> > is 
> > > > > > shorted 
> > > > > > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). 
> > Different 
> > > > > > baudrates 
> > > > > > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure about 
> the 
> > > > > DTR/RTS 
> > > > > > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong 
RS232 
> > > cable. 
> > > > > > Null 
> > > > > > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to 
use 
> > the 
> > > > > > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been 
removed]

> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Nick,

I forgot. There should be a jumper J1 on your board. It shorts the 
diode! I have not checked the documentation (there´s no jumper on my 
board) but this might be a clue. Check my previous post if you 
haven´t already.

Anders


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@...> wrote:
>
> Nick,
> 
> I did not expect anything like this either...
> I had a look at the P2106 schematics and apparently it is similar 
to 
> the mt board in this respect. The same 5V zenerdiode followed by a 
> 3.3V regulator. This regulator feeds the RS232 chip, no RS232 -no 
> bootloader. Both the mt and the P schematics actually say 9VAC, 
but 
> the documentation says 6VAC 9VDC.
> 
> Good luck!
> Anders
> 
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> >
> > Anders,
> > 
> > I actually have the P2106 board and not the 2106mt board. I 
> > originally did not think the problem with the boot loader was 
> > anything hardware. 
> > 
> > I'm not sure if this will sort out the problem with my board, as 
> > there is no need to have the voltage as high as 12v (as far as i 
> can 
> > see).
> > I will still give this a go though.
> > 
> > You say at 9 v your Tx line is 0v. What is it at 12v?
> > Just trying to tie things together here. At work at the moment 
and 
> > can't test things till I get home.
> > 
> > Thanks for all your help.
> > 
> > Nick
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nick,
> > > 
> > > I get 0V on the TX pin at 9V.
> > > It is clear from the schematic that the board won't work at 
9V. 
> I 
> > > was also a bit afraid of upping the voltage as the current 
> > increased 
> > > a lot. The trick is to start at 12V since the regulators draw 
> very 
> > > much current when fed below nominal voltage. After the 
> rectifying 
> > > bridge there is 7805(and the schematic says 12V there!). There 
> is 
> > > also a 1N4733 5V zener-diode. Thus, att 9V there's only 4V 
left 
> for 
> > > the LM1117 3.3V regulator which has a minimum voltage drop of 
> about 
> > > 1.0-1.2V minimum (4.3-4.5V in). The core may get the correct 
> > voltage 
> > > but the peripherals won't. 
> > > 
> > > Cheers
> > > /Anders
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Anders,
> > > > 
> > > > Great to hear you got your board working! I have not tried 
> upping 
> > > the 
> > > > voltage as yet, will give it a try later. The only thing 
that 
> > > stopped 
> > > > me thinking that the voltage would make any differenct was 
> that 
> > > the 
> > > > board was getting 1.8v for the core and 3.3v for the 
> peripherals. 
> > > > 
> > > > Are you saying it requires 12v for RS232?
> > > > 
> > > > Also, what is voltage on your Tx pin on the LPC2106 (at 
> default)?
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Nick
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nick,
> > > > > 
> > > > > It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for 
powering 
> the 
> > > > > board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the 
> > schematic 
> > > it 
> > > > > became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if 
this 
> > > solves 
> > > > > your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC 
utility 
> > > > settings.
> > > > > 
> > > > > regards
> > > > > /Anders
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > You had any luck yet?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" 
<akj@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nick,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 
problems. 
> > > Since 
> > > > > I'm 
> > > > > > > working from home today I do not have any other cables 
> but 
> > > I'll 
> > > > > get 
> > > > > > > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. 
As 
> I 
> > > wrote 
> > > > > > > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made 
sure 
> > > that 
> > > > > the 
> > > > > > > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a 
> scope 
> > > > > tomorrow. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Best regards 
> > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 
> flash 
> > > > > utility 
> > > > > > > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a 
message 
> on 
> > > > this 
> > > > > > > board 
> > > > > > > > to see if the problem lies with my development board.
> > > > > > > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex 
> file 
> > > to 
> > > > > > flash, 
> > > > > > > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too 
> have 
> > > > tried 
> > > > > > > many 
> > > > > > > > different com ports, jumper settings and different 
> reset 
> > > > > > > conditions, 
> > > > > > > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to 
> use 
> > > this 
> > > > > > > board, 
> > > > > > > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with 
the 
> > > Philips 
> > > > > > > LPC2000 
> > > > > > > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal 
(3.3v 
> > > low, 
> > > > 0v 
> > > > > > > high) 
> > > > > > > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > > > > > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground 
and 
> > > does 
> > > > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to 
let 
> > you 
> > > > > know 
> > > > > > > your 
> > > > > > > > not alone.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders Kjellberg" 
> > > <akj@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips 
> Flash 
> > > > > Utility 
> > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL 
> jumper 
> > > is 
> > > > > > > shorted 
> > > > > > > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). 
> > > Different 
> > > > > > > baudrates 
> > > > > > > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure 
about 

> > the 
> > > > > > DTR/RTS 
> > > > > > > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong 
> RS232 
> > > > cable. 
> > > > > > > Null 
> > > > > > > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend to 
> use 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been 
> removed]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Anders & Uwe,

I have had the jumper installed all the time. The regulators give 1.8 
& 3.3v always.
I think this is a problem with the board. 
Can anyone confirm the voltage present on Tx.

Cheers

Nick




--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Nick,
> 
> I forgot. There should be a jumper J1 on your board. It shorts the 
> diode! I have not checked the documentation (there´s no jumper on 
my 
> board) but this might be a clue. Check my previous post if you 
> haven´t already.
> 
> Anders
> 
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> >
> > Nick,
> > 
> > I did not expect anything like this either...
> > I had a look at the P2106 schematics and apparently it is similar 
> to 
> > the mt board in this respect. The same 5V zenerdiode followed by 
a 
> > 3.3V regulator. This regulator feeds the RS232 chip, no RS232 -no 
> > bootloader. Both the mt and the P schematics actually say 9VAC, 
> but 
> > the documentation says 6VAC 9VDC.
> > 
> > Good luck!
> > Anders
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anders,
> > > 
> > > I actually have the P2106 board and not the 2106mt board. I 
> > > originally did not think the problem with the boot loader was 
> > > anything hardware. 
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure if this will sort out the problem with my board, 
as 
> > > there is no need to have the voltage as high as 12v (as far as 
i 
> > can 
> > > see).
> > > I will still give this a go though.
> > > 
> > > You say at 9 v your Tx line is 0v. What is it at 12v?
> > > Just trying to tie things together here. At work at the moment 
> and 
> > > can't test things till I get home.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for all your help.
> > > 
> > > Nick
> > > 
> > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nick,
> > > > 
> > > > I get 0V on the TX pin at 9V.
> > > > It is clear from the schematic that the board won't work at 
> 9V. 
> > I 
> > > > was also a bit afraid of upping the voltage as the current 
> > > increased 
> > > > a lot. The trick is to start at 12V since the regulators draw 
> > very 
> > > > much current when fed below nominal voltage. After the 
> > rectifying 
> > > > bridge there is 7805(and the schematic says 12V there!). 
There 
> > is 
> > > > also a 1N4733 5V zener-diode. Thus, att 9V there's only 4V 
> left 
> > for 
> > > > the LM1117 3.3V regulator which has a minimum voltage drop of 
> > about 
> > > > 1.0-1.2V minimum (4.3-4.5V in). The core may get the correct 
> > > voltage 
> > > > but the peripherals won't. 
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers
> > > > /Anders
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Anders,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Great to hear you got your board working! I have not tried 
> > upping 
> > > > the 
> > > > > voltage as yet, will give it a try later. The only thing 
> that 
> > > > stopped 
> > > > > me thinking that the voltage would make any differenct was 
> > that 
> > > > the 
> > > > > board was getting 1.8v for the core and 3.3v for the 
> > peripherals. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are you saying it requires 12v for RS232?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Also, what is voltage on your Tx pin on the LPC2106 (at 
> > default)?
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nick
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" <akj@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nick,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It actually works now! Olimex states 9VDC/6VAC for 
> powering 
> > the 
> > > > > > board, but when I had a look at the closer look at the 
> > > schematic 
> > > > it 
> > > > > > became obvious that it should be 12V... Let me know if 
> this 
> > > > solves 
> > > > > > your problem as well. Otherwise I could post my LPC 
> utility 
> > > > > settings.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> 
wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > You had any luck yet?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "kjellberg_anders" 
> <akj@> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Nick,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Thanks for letting me know about your LPC 2106 
> problems. 
> > > > Since 
> > > > > > I'm 
> > > > > > > > working from home today I do not have any other 
cables 
> > but 
> > > > I'll 
> > > > > > get 
> > > > > > > > back to you as soon as I have tried a different one. 
> As 
> > I 
> > > > wrote 
> > > > > > > > earlier, I have tested different baudrates and made 
> sure 
> > > > that 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > > comport was correctly setup. I'll check that with a 
> > scope 
> > > > > > tomorrow. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Best regards 
> > > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > -- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I am also having problems with the Philips LPC2000 
> > flash 
> > > > > > utility 
> > > > > > > > > (olimex LPC2106), and was just about to post a 
> message 
> > on 
> > > > > this 
> > > > > > > > board 
> > > > > > > > > to see if the problem lies with my development 
board.
> > > > > > > > > I am just trying to upload the simple blink LED hex 
> > file 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > > flash, 
> > > > > > > > > and it just comes up with cannot communicate. I too 
> > have 
> > > > > tried 
> > > > > > > > many 
> > > > > > > > > different com ports, jumper settings and different 
> > reset 
> > > > > > > > conditions, 
> > > > > > > > > to no avail. This is the first time I have tried to 
> > use 
> > > > this 
> > > > > > > > board, 
> > > > > > > > > so i have no idea if the thing works.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I am almost certain the problem does not lie with 
> the 
> > > > Philips 
> > > > > > > > LPC2000 
> > > > > > > > > flash utility as I have scoped out the Rx signal 
> (3.3v 
> > > > low, 
> > > > > 0v 
> > > > > > > > high) 
> > > > > > > > > on the board and found it to receive data. 
> > > > > > > > > However, my Tx pin on the chip is always at ground 
> and 
> > > > does 
> > > > > > > > nothing.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone know if Tx should be held at 0v???
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Not sure if this will help you Anders, but just to 
> let 
> > > you 
> > > > > > know 
> > > > > > > > your 
> > > > > > > > > not alone.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > cheers,
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Anders 
Kjellberg" 
> > > > <akj@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to establish connection with Philips 
> > Flash 
> > > > > > Utility 
> > > > > > > > and 
> > > > > > > > > > an Olimex 2106 mt board without success. TheBSL 
> > jumper 
> > > > is 
> > > > > > > > shorted 
> > > > > > > > > > and the frequency set at 14745kHz (14.7456MHz). 
> > > > Different 
> > > > > > > > baudrates 
> > > > > > > > > > have been tried without success. I am not sure 
> about 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > DTR/RTS 
> > > > > > > > > > settings however. Also I may be using the wrong 
> > RS232 
> > > > > cable. 
> > > > > > > > Null 
> > > > > > > > > > modem or not? I'll have to check that. I intend 
to 

> > use 
> > > > the 
> > > > > > > > > > bootloader and ICCARM. Any ideas that may help?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > > > > > > > > /Anders
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been 
> > removed]
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Nick,

> Can anyone confirm the voltage present on Tx.

out of reset, the TX pin is at 'low' level on my board
with the BSL jumper installed. 
If I then issue a "read device id" command from within
the LPC200 flash utility, theres some traffic on the line
and the utility reports the part id read successfully.
TX is high afterwards.
If I then reset the board again, TX goes back to low
and the next "Read device ID" fails, leaving TX in high
state.
The next "Read device ID" then is again successful, even
if ignoring the request to reset the board.

So, if your TX stays low, no matter what you do, I guess
you have a faulty board, either controller damaged, line
shortened or transceiver damaged.
I'd inspect the soldering to see if there are some shorts,
especially the "expansion" connector, that carries TXD0
next to GND.

hth
-uwe

uwe,

Thanks man, that has helped alot. Will check it out later.

Nick

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Uwe Arends" <nospam@...> wrote:

>
> Nick,
> 
> > Can anyone confirm the voltage present on Tx.
> 
> out of reset, the TX pin is at 'low' level on my board
> with the BSL jumper installed. 
> If I then issue a "read device id" command from within
> the LPC200 flash utility, theres some traffic on the line
> and the utility reports the part id read successfully.
> TX is high afterwards.
> If I then reset the board again, TX goes back to low
> and the next "Read device ID" fails, leaving TX in high
> state.
> The next "Read device ID" then is again successful, even
> if ignoring the request to reset the board.
> 
> So, if your TX stays low, no matter what you do, I guess
> you have a faulty board, either controller damaged, line
> shortened or transceiver damaged.
> I'd inspect the soldering to see if there are some shorts,
> especially the "expansion" connector, that carries TXD0
> next to GND.
> 
> hth
> -uwe
>

Uwe & Nick,

I have the same experience as Uwe. I would check the TX line on the 
low level side of the ST3232(pin 11). Other than that you could 
perhaps try a JTAG interface before throwing the poor board away.

Anders  


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "nma550n" <nma550n@...> wrote:

>
> uwe,
> 
> Thanks man, that has helped alot. Will check it out later.
> 
> Nick
> 
> --- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, "Uwe Arends" <nospam@> wrote:
> >
> > Nick,
> > 
> > > Can anyone confirm the voltage present on Tx.
> > 
> > out of reset, the TX pin is at 'low' level on my board
> > with the BSL jumper installed. 
> > If I then issue a "read device id" command from within
> > the LPC200 flash utility, theres some traffic on the line
> > and the utility reports the part id read successfully.
> > TX is high afterwards.
> > If I then reset the board again, TX goes back to low
> > and the next "Read device ID" fails, leaving TX in high
> > state.
> > The next "Read device ID" then is again successful, even
> > if ignoring the request to reset the board.
> > 
> > So, if your TX stays low, no matter what you do, I guess
> > you have a faulty board, either controller damaged, line
> > shortened or transceiver damaged.
> > I'd inspect the soldering to see if there are some shorts,
> > especially the "expansion" connector, that carries TXD0
> > next to GND.
> > 
> > hth
> > -uwe
> >
>

Hello to everyone,

I need to download program to external flash connected on LPC2292 over
RS232. Before I start to write it, maybe some solution already exist
for that. 
Any idea?

Thanx in advance

-- 
 branek

Is it possible (and practical) to use an LPC2148 to be both a USB
mass storage device and a USB serial communications device?

[This is a rackmount box.  We want to use USB instead of the more
traditional DB9 console port.  The idea is to allow an administrator
with a PC to copy configuration files into the device and also to run
hyperterminal shell session.  Any other comments are welcome.]

James Dabbs schrieb:
> Is it possible (and practical) to use an LPC2148 to be both a USB
> mass storage device and a USB serial communications device?
> 
> [This is a rackmount box.  We want to use USB instead of the more
> traditional DB9 console port.  The idea is to allow an administrator
> with a PC to copy configuration files into the device and also to run
> hyperterminal shell session.  Any other comments are welcome.]

AFAIK it depends on the number of end-points a device offers. For a 
mass-storage you need two bulk end-points for CDC IIRC 3 end-points.

I don't know the 2148, but if it has >= 6 it should work.
-- 
42Bastian

42Bastian Schick wrote:
> James Dabbs schrieb:
>> Is it possible (and practical) to use an LPC2148 to be both a USB
>> mass storage device and a USB serial communications device?
>>
>> [This is a rackmount box.  We want to use USB instead of the more
>> traditional DB9 console port.  The idea is to allow an administrator
>> with a PC to copy configuration files into the device and also to run
>> hyperterminal shell session.  Any other comments are welcome.]
> 
> AFAIK it depends on the number of end-points a device offers. For a 
> mass-storage you need two bulk end-points for CDC IIRC 3 end-points.
> 
> I don't know the 2148, but if it has >= 6 it should work.

The LPC2148 has 16 logical endpoints.

Can a USB device be programmed to be two devices at once?

Alternatively you could configure USB for serial port emulation
at boot and then use a shell command to switch the USB interface
to do USB mass storage.

If it's just configuration files to transfer, perhaps you can
use xmodem over the serial line emulation, it's quite simple.

Regards,
Bertrik

You can have one USB port act as 2 complete separate devices. I 
remember seeing a document from microchip that shows how to do so on 
their PICs.

Gus

--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, Bertrik Sikken <bertrik@...> wrote:
>
> 42Bastian Schick wrote:
> > James Dabbs schrieb:
> >> Is it possible (and practical) to use an LPC2148 to be both a 
USB
> >> mass storage device and a USB serial communications device?
> >>
> >> [This is a rackmount box.  We want to use USB instead of the 
more
> >> traditional DB9 console port.  The idea is to allow an 
administrator
> >> with a PC to copy configuration files into the device and also 
to run
> >> hyperterminal shell session.  Any other comments are welcome.]
> > 
> > AFAIK it depends on the number of end-points a device offers. 
For a 
> > mass-storage you need two bulk end-points for CDC IIRC 3 end-
points.

> > 
> > I don't know the 2148, but if it has >= 6 it should work.
> 
> The LPC2148 has 16 logical endpoints.
> 
> Can a USB device be programmed to be two devices at once?
> 
> Alternatively you could configure USB for serial port emulation
> at boot and then use a shell command to switch the USB interface
> to do USB mass storage.
> 
> If it's just configuration files to transfer, perhaps you can
> use xmodem over the serial line emulation, it's quite simple.
> 
> Regards,
> Bertrik
>

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:00:39PM +0100, Bertrik Sikken wrote:
> Can a USB device be programmed to be two devices at once?

Yes, this is known as a "composite" device. It will have two or
more interfaces within a configuration. Each interface associates
with a specific device driver on the host.

A composite device uses the same control endpoint (endpoint 0)
for all of its interfaces, so the number of endpoints required is
less than the sum of the endpoints that separate devices would
require.


Clyde

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The Phillips Apps dual serial port example is a working example of a
composite USB device example.

Also the recent IAR mass storage example is a composite device.  Two disk
drives, one RAM the other SD card.

You might refer to either example to get a better understanding of how to
write a composite device.  Perhaps add the serial emulation to the IAR
example.  That would be the quickest route.


Joel

Hello,

Any solution for my question? Or some another way to program external
flash!

Thanx, again! :)

BK> Hello to everyone,

BK> I need to download program to external flash connected on LPC2292 over
BK> RS232. Before I start to write it, maybe some solution already exist
BK> for that. 
BK> Any idea?

BK> Thanx in advance

-- 
 branek

www.sparkfun.com and check out their 2294.

Sonny


--- In lpc2000@yahoogroups.com, Branko Karaklajic <branek@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> 
> Any solution for my question? Or some another way to program external
> flash!
> 
> Thanx, again! :)
> 
> BK> Hello to everyone,
> 
> BK> I need to download program to external flash connected on
LPC2292 over

> BK> RS232. Before I start to write it, maybe some solution already exist
> BK> for that. 
> BK> Any idea?
> 
> BK> Thanx in advance
> 
> -- 
>  branek
>