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Getting paid (was Re: Hoaxes in general)

2004-08-07 by Dave Mucha

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Davies" wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" wrote: > > > Hold the presses. I thought you said > > there was no $$ until you hit level 5 ? > > If it is paying bills, then do what the > > customer wants ! > > I agree with

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Re: [AVR-Chat] avrdude and the butterfly...

2004-08-07 by Brian Dean

On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:07:17PM -0500, Mike Murphree wrote: > Anyone using avrdude with the avr butterfly's bootloader? > > It works with avrprog in Studio (4.09), but no luck yet with > avrdude. I've tried setting avrdude for: butterfly, stk500, > and avr910 but none of these

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RE: [AVR-Chat] DRAM with CPU (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Øystein Fallo

>Experts in the field tried that in the 1980's, IIRC. The architects >of SQL, if you want. Instead, they realized that it was more >realistic and practical to try to do it well in software _first_ on >generic hardware that was rapidly growing to be more capable by the >month. > >

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Re: avrdude and the butterfly...

2004-08-07 by Mike

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Brian Dean wrote: > On Fri, Aug 06, 2004 at 03:07:17PM -0500, Mike Murphree wrote: > > > Anyone using avrdude with the avr butterfly's bootloader? > > > > It works with avrprog in Studio (4.09), but no luck yet with > > avrdude. I've tried setting

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Getting paid (was Re: Hoaxes in general)

2004-08-07 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Mucha" wrote: > Hold the presses. I thought you said > there was no $$ until you hit level 5 ? > If it is paying bills, then do what the > customer wants ! I agree with Dave, as I said several times. Kat, if you expect help from people in th

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Re: "Perfect Data" Hoax

2004-08-07 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Bernd Felsche wrote: > Their minds [at the MIT AI Lab] > may be too highly trained. I hear you. And, so do they. The AI people are the most active in cross-discipline brainstorming and just about every other way of looking at problems from new ang

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Re: [AVR-Chat] OT: Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Kathy Quinlan

markevans_1 wrote: > Hi Kat, > To me this sounds like some sort of scam. However if there is > genuine money behind it it might be worth approaching a university. > > As a student of UWA (Im a Perthie) this would make a very > interesting final year project for a group of student

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OT: Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by markevans_1

Hi Kat, To me this sounds like some sort of scam. However if there is genuine money behind it it might be worth approaching a university. As a student of UWA (Im a Perthie) this would make a very interesting final year project for a group of students, either developing a custom s

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-07 by Larry Barello

The problem/strength of C is that it is pretty close to the metal. It neither holds your hand nor gets in the way (for the most part), which, is why C and assembly is such a kick-ass combination and finds widespread use across *all* architectures. Of course, one can write incompr

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Re: [AVR-Chat] DRAM with CPU (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Bernd Felsche

On Saturday 07 August 2004 09:36, erikc wrote: > > Perhaps it was an idea ahead of its time. Considering all > the databases in use these days and the demands made on > them, it seems that having memory with integral search > capability would be a moneymaker. Especially if someon

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Re: [AVR-Chat] "Perfect Data" Hoax

2004-08-07 by Bernd Felsche

On Saturday 07 August 2004 02:33, Graham Davies wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > > Graham, Mate where can I start ... > > I'm more concerned about where it will end. > > > ... the customer is paying, > > the investors are onboard ... > > But, appar

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Timing Profiler.

2004-08-07 by Alexandre Guimaraes

Just to check it out... A free pin a 1K resistor and a 100nf cap to ground. VCC at the junction is 100% of the time and vcc/2 is around 50%. Sounds nice.... All the other times that I needed this I used a 32bit timer summing up a cpu timer but that disturbs the results a little..

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Bernd Felsche

On Saturday 07 August 2004 10:25, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Dave Mucha wrote: > > > > some sort of associative memory and Smart storage node; yes... with "infinite" cross-links to other nodes. Synaptic network sort of thing. Each synapse matches a particular pattern and "fires". Whe

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Timing Profiler.

2004-08-07 by David VanHorn

> >If you've got a spare pin or two you can get a pretty good idea with a >logic analyzer, a oscilloscope. or even a DMM. Just set the pin high >during the period you want to measure. I was just about to suggest that. I've used this a fair bit.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Timing Profiler.

2004-08-07 by Robert Adsett

At 12:21 AM 8/7/04 -0300, you wrote: > Does anyone have a ready made structure to make a "profiler" for a >program that has the usual embedded structure of some timer routines that >take quite some time to execute and a small main loop ?? > > I have an application where I maybe p

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Timing Profiler.

2004-08-07 by Alexandre Guimaraes

Hi, Does anyone have a ready made structure to make a "profiler" for a program that has the usual embedded structure of some timer routines that take quite some time to execute and a small main loop ?? I have an application where I maybe pretty close to use all CPU time available

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-07 by David VanHorn

At 10:12 PM 8/6/2004, Alexandre Guimaraes wrote: >Hi, > >> Is C the only high-level language for the AVR? I would be >> especially interested in Pascal, Modula or any of the other >> Wirth-style languages out there. > > I also bought embedded pascal wich is fine but not as "compl

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-07 by Alexandre Guimaraes

Hi, > Is C the only high-level language for the AVR? I would be > especially interested in Pascal, Modula or any of the other > Wirth-style languages out there. I also bought embedded pascal wich is fine but not as "complete" as codevision and the code generator is much, much wor

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoaxes in general

2004-08-07 by David VanHorn

> >I know you all seem to think this is a hoax, but right now it is >providing me money to live on and no one else has any paying projects, >so I do what needs to be done to make some money. I hear that! just lookin' out for you :)

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by David VanHorn

At 07:47 PM 8/6/2004, Lasse Madsen wrote: >Excuse me ... > >What the hxll are we doing discussing some brain dead xx's economical scams on an AVR forum wake up guy's and gal's its not the social club lets get professional When were you appointed as topic manager again?

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoaxes in general

2004-08-07 by Kathy Quinlan

Graham Davies wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn wrote: > > >>... It could be that you are being >>used to lend credibility to this >>thing, to dupe investors ... > > > Yes, that's going to be the motive, isn't it. Check out ZeoSync, who > back in 2002 went a

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Kathy Quinlan

Cobb, Quentin wrote: > Frankly I'm surprised by the dearth of information on the Internet about the > key players: > David Lawrence, John Dowling or Karen Danski, or the "Perfect Data" project. > > > Either this points out the deficiencies of the Internet (which is the point > th

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Kathy Quinlan

Dave Mucha wrote: >>>>Graham, Mate where can I start, > > THIS IS NO HOAX, the customer is paying, > >>>>the investors are onboard. > > David Lawrence is actually a respected > >>>Dr in the area of Neurophysiology > > (ie the workings of the brain) > >>>>The money will be availab

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Re: Hoaxes in general

2004-08-07 by Dave Mucha

> > I know you all seem to think this is a hoax, but right now it is > providing me money to live on and no one else has any paying projects, > so I do what needs to be done to make some money. > > > Hold the presses. I thought you said there was no $$ until you hit level 5 ? If

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Timing Profiler.

2004-08-07 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Guimaraes" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 04:21 Subject: [AVR-Chat] Timing Profiler. > Hi, > > Does anyone have a ready made structure to make a "profiler" for a > program that has the usual embedded structure of some timer routi

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-07 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Guimaraes" To: Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 04:12 Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book > Hi, > > > Is C the only high-level language for the AVR? I would be > > especially interested in Pascal, Modula or any of the oth

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-07 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- > > I recommend it to anyone getting involved in using C for embedded > systems. It really helped me a lot when I started using Codevision C for > some projects. I never used C before and was a "assembler only" guy before > Codevision. I still use ass

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Re: [AVR-Chat] DRAM with CPU (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Davies" To: Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 14:24 Subject: [AVR-Chat] DRAM with CPU (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?) > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "erikc" wrote: > > > ... A big DRAM with a little > > CPU in one corner ... > > Mitsubish

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-07 by Alexandre Guimaraes

?????? kat asked for help and some people are telling her to be carefull, that she may be being cheated !!!! What if it was with you ???? Professional courtesy is very professional in my way of thinking ! She has helped all of us a lot and she deserves help when she needs of we t

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avrdude and the butterfly...

2004-08-06 by Mike Murphree

Anyone using avrdude with the avr butterfly's bootloader? It works with avrprog in Studio (4.09), but no luck yet with avrdude. I've tried setting avrdude for: butterfly, stk500, and avr910 but none of these seem to work. I do have a modified version of the gcc port of the origin

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Hoaxes in general

2004-08-06 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn wrote: > ... It could be that you are being > used to lend credibility to this > thing, to dupe investors ... Yes, that's going to be the motive, isn't it. Check out ZeoSync, who back in 2002 went after 40 million to develop "standar

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-06 by Alexandre Guimaraes

Hi, Dave It is indeed a great book but I already have read it and for us$160 I can buy one more and still keep the other us$80 ;-) I recommend it to anyone getting involved in using C for embedded systems. It really helped me a lot when I started using Codevision C for some proje

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by David VanHorn

At 01:48 PM 8/6/2004, Cobb, Quentin wrote: >Frankly I'm surprised by the dearth of information on the Internet about the >key players: >David Lawrence, John Dowling or Karen Danski, or the "Perfect Data" project. Kat, I'm also worried. It could be that you are being used to lend

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by Cobb, Quentin

Frankly I'm surprised by the dearth of information on the Internet about the key players: David Lawrence, John Dowling or Karen Danski, or the "Perfect Data" project. Either this points out the deficiencies of the Internet (which is the point they are trying to make) or they are

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-06 by David VanHorn

At 12:42 PM 8/6/2004, Alexandre Guimaraes wrote: >Uau..... There is one digit more than he knows.. :-) > >If anyone want's mine I will let it go for half price... It IS a very good book. The guys aren't that far away from me, just on the other side of indiana. Never have run into

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-06 by Alexandre Guimaraes

Uau..... There is one digit more than he knows.. :-) If anyone want's mine I will let it go for half price... best regards, Alexandre Guimaraes ----- Original Message ----- From: "David VanHorn" To: ; Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Embedded programming book

2004-08-06 by James Wagner

Given that its $69.62 at Amazon, new, and they are asking $327.96 for immediate sale, I'd say waaaay overpriced. Jim On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 11:40:25 -0500 David VanHorn wrote: > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2228&item=4214982610&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1

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Embedded programming book

2004-08-06 by David VanHorn

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2228&item=4214982610&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V Please tell me that this is horrendously overpriced! Alternatively, I have a copy that I would part with.. :)

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"Perfect Data" Hoax

2004-08-06 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Graham, Mate where can I start ... I'm more concerned about where it will end. > ... the customer is paying, > the investors are onboard ... But, apparently, they're not paying you. Yet. You will get paid if you can do somet

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by Kathy Quinlan

erikc77099 wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > >>Graham Davies wrote: >> >> >>>--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan > > wrote: > >>> >>>>Here is a link to the project: >>>>http://www.kaqelectronics.dyndns.org/the_buzz/the_buzz.html >>> >>> >

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by Kathy Quinlan

Graham Davies wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > > >>Here is a link to the project: >>http://www.kaqelectronics.dyndns.org/the_buzz/the_buzz.html > > > I think Kat is basically the victim of a hoax. If you have a little > time, read the second (two p

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byte writable memory chips ?

2004-08-06 by Dave Mucha

Hi all, I've been trying to find the AT25F512AN-10SU-2.7 or the AT25F1024AN- 10SU-2.7 for some short time and it seems there are page write versions by other manufactures, but I have not found other byte write chips. I did look at the Framtron chips, but, they are much more $$$ W

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Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by Dave Mucha

> >> > >>Graham, Mate where can I start, THIS IS NO HOAX, the customer is paying, > > > >>the investors are onboard. David Lawrence is actually a respected > > Dr in the area of Neurophysiology (ie the workings of the brain) > >>The money will be available when I get to Level 5 (

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Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by erikc77099

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Graham Davies wrote: > > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > > > > > >>Here is a link to the project: > >>http://www.kaqelectronics.dyndns.org/the_buzz/the_buzz.html > > > > > > I think Kat is basically

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Hoax (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Here is a link to the project: > http://www.kaqelectronics.dyndns.org/the_buzz/the_buzz.html I think Kat is basically the victim of a hoax. If you have a little time, read the second (two page) document she points us to. It

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DRAM with CPU (was Re: Semi manufacturers ?)

2004-08-06 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "erikc" wrote: > ... A big DRAM with a little > CPU in one corner ... Mitsubishi tried this but nobody bought it. It makes a lot of sense to me. The DRAM was 128 bits wide so the CPU could clean or fill a cache line in one cycle. I benchmarked the

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-06 by stevech

I used to work on projects which did string matching on big databases. BIG. The techique was to create an inverted index in real time as the data is stored, coming in. Then the searches are fast. Essentially, this how Google works. -----Original Message----- From: Bernd Felsche [

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-06 by Bernd Felsche

On Friday 06 August 2004 07:06, erikc wrote: > Well, if you want to develop semiconductors, why not a RAM > chip with a simple processor built in? The processor would > have its own small RAM for holding its programmes and a > means of entering those programmes, causing them to r

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-06 by Bernd Felsche

On Thursday 05 August 2004 08:14, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Graham Davies wrote: > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > >>I need a contact for a semi manufacturer > >>who can manufacter 2 devices for me: > >>#1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (able to a

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