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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-06 by Chad O'neill

You do realise it costs over a million dollars just for the mask set when making a 0.13u chip, let alone the development costs, packaging etc etc. Chad erikc wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David VanHorn" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 01:38 > Subject:

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-06 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernd Felsche" To: Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 01:39 Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ? > On Friday 06 August 2004 07:06, erikc wrote: > > Well, if you want to develop semiconductors, why not a RAM > > chip with a simple process

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by erikc

At least. Erikc - firewevr@airmail.net /// "An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil." "The Truth against the World." -- Bardic Motto ///I did NOT lose my mind! It's backed up on the server (and the network's down....) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chad O'neill" To: Sent: Friday, A

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "David VanHorn" To: ; Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 01:38 Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ? > > > > >I have to process a text file that can be up to 10Tb in size, the data > >is only ascii, so I can not see the point for a large

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Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Dave Mucha

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Chad O'neill" wrote: > You do realise it costs over a million dollars just for the mask set > when making a 0.13u chip, > let alone the development costs, packaging etc etc. > > Chad Probably, and if one of the Semi houses like the idea and see t

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Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by erikc77099

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Graham Davies wrote: > > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > > > > > >>I need a contact for a semi manufacturer > >>who can manufacter 2 devices for me: > >>#1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (

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Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > I have to process a text file > that can be up to 10Tb in size, > the data is only ascii, so I > can not see the point for a > larger sized CPU. Once a string > is found, all it needs to do is > hand the string up to the nex

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Russell Shaw

Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Jeffrey Engel wrote: > >>Sounds intriguing, but the development costs are >>likely to be astronomical if you're only making 1. >> >>Have you considered a Linux cluster? Sure, there's no >>AVR content, however you should be able to simply >>assemble and conf

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Chad O'neill

I am just wondering where and how you managed to get funding for a project this? Also what sort in what sort of budget are you planing to build this system? Chad Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Jeffrey Engel wrote: > > > Sounds intriguing, but the development costs are > > likely to be as

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Mike Murphree

> I have to process a text file that can be up to 10Tb in size, the data > is only ascii, so I can not see the point for a larger sized CPU. Once > a > string is found, all it needs to do is hand the string up to the next > CPU for serving. > > This is not a joke Guys, I have som

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Kathy Quinlan

Jeffrey Engel wrote: > Sounds intriguing, but the development costs are > likely to be astronomical if you're only making 1. > > Have you considered a Linux cluster? Sure, there's no > AVR content, however you should be able to simply > assemble and configure a solution. > > $0.0

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Jeffrey Engel

Sounds intriguing, but the development costs are likely to be astronomical if you're only making 1. Have you considered a Linux cluster? Sure, there's no AVR content, however you should be able to simply assemble and configure a solution. $0.02, Jeff Engel --- Kathy Quinlan wrote

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by David VanHorn

> >I have to process a text file that can be up to 10Tb in size, the data >is only ascii, so I can not see the point for a larger sized CPU. Once a > string is found, all it needs to do is hand the string up to the next >CPU for serving. Sounds like a job for a beowulf cluster.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-05 by Kathy Quinlan

Graham Davies wrote: > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > > >>I need a contact for a semi manufacturer >>who can manufacter 2 devices for me: >>#1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (able to address 0.1TB) >>#2 8 bit DDR (I need 10TB for the above cpu's

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by James A. Russo

Doh! I guess I wasn't the only one to see it then. Differential girdle springs will definitely be needed.Not to mention the dingle arm. I'm still laughing and I saw it a few days ago. -jr _____ From: Michael Haisley [mailto:mhaisley@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:1

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by Michael Haisley

No, what you need is a rockwell. http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=retro.wmv -Mike On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 22:52:32 +0100, erikc wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathy Quinlan" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 13:28 > Subject: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by Bernd Felsche

On Thursday 05 August 2004 05:52, erikc wrote: > From: "Kathy Quinlan" > > Hi Guys and Gals, > > > > I need a contact for a semi manufacturer who can manufacter 2 devices > > for me: > > > > #1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (able to address 0.1TB) > > #2 8 bit DDR (I n

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by James A. Russo

Yes, I think that the machine is made by "Rockwell Automation" :-) Here is a video explaining the machine: http://media.ebaumsworld.com/retro.wmv -jr _____ From: erikc [mailto:firewevr@airmail.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 5:53 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by erikc

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Quinlan" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 13:28 Subject: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ? > Hi Guys and Gals, > > I need a contact for a semi manufacturer who can manufacter 2 devices > for me: > > #1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think G

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by Russell Shaw

Kathy Quinlan wrote: > Hi Guys and Gals, > > I need a contact for a semi manufacturer who can manufacter 2 devices > for me: > > #1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (able to address 0.1TB) > > #2 8 bit DDR (I need 10TB for the above cpu's) April-fools was a few months ago

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Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by Kathy Quinlan

Hi Guys and Gals, I need a contact for a semi manufacturer who can manufacter 2 devices for me: #1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (able to address 0.1TB) #2 8 bit DDR (I need 10TB for the above cpu's) Regards, Kat. -- ----------------------------------------------------

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Re: Semi manufacturers ?

2004-08-04 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Kathy Quinlan wrote: > I need a contact for a semi manufacturer > who can manufacter 2 devices for me: > #1 an 8 bit cpu that is FAST (think Gflops) (able to address 0.1TB) > #2 8 bit DDR (I need 10TB for the above cpu's) Kat, I would recommend TS

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Grounding of MLF package for Atmega128L

2004-08-04 by inpactmicro

Is it absolutely necessary to connect to GRROUND the back plane connection of the 64 pin MLF package for the ATmega128L package or is this purely for thermal dissipation. what is the effect of not connecting this underside pin to Ground?

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Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-04 by C Sizer

Hi guys, thanks to everyone who has responded, it has been truely helpful. There were a number of considerations raised I had not though of at all. I will go back to the drawing board and analyse all the current demands of my design before making a final decision. Cheers, and aga

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter @ 500mA min

2004-08-03 by Robert Adsett

At 12:18 AM 8/3/04 +0100, you wrote: >Even better: Linear Technologies www.linear.com They >have a freely downloadable programme they call >"SwitcherCAD". National and ST also have design support for their convertors. I like Nationals better although it does insist on Microsofts

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter @ 500mA min

2004-08-02 by erikc

Even better: Linear Technologies www.linear.com They have a freely downloadable programme they call "SwitcherCAD". Basically, it is a version of SPICE with a schematic-entry front-end. Naturally, they are using it to entice you into speccing thier line of switchmode regulators, o

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Re: [normal] RE: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by David VanHorn

> > They may or may not have fixed this on the newr dies, or they perhaps >just want you to wait for mega88s to fix it. Well that's a major screwup. Still, it does not mean that AVCC can be left floating. EVER. Sometimes, with all the "help" that our vendors give us, I'm amazed t

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Re: [normal] RE: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by Henry Carl Ott

At 12:36 PM 8/2/2004, you wrote: > >On 2 Aug 2004 at 10:54, David VanHorn wrote: > > > > Sure. Goes without saying that if you draw enough through the resistor to > > get any significant droop, it will be a problem, at least for ratiometric > > conversions. > > > Extracted from t

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Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-02 by Graham Davies

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "C Sizer" wrote: > ... of course NiMH will only give > me around 2.4V in this configuation. Col, I think this thread has got confused by people not reading your original post and disagreeing with perfectly workable solutions. Four NiMH cells in se

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RE: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by Mark Jordan

On 2 Aug 2004 at 10:54, David VanHorn wrote: > > Sure. Goes without saying that if you draw enough through the resistor to > get any significant droop, it will be a problem, at least for ratiometric > conversions. > Extracted from the Mega8 datasheet: "The ADC has a separate anal

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RE: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by David VanHorn

At 10:50 AM 8/2/2004, Larry Barello wrote: >Remember that Avcc supplies power to the analog port I/O pins (i.e. if you >use them for regular I/O). Even if you only use them for analog inputs, the >Schmitt trigger is still active - drawing different current levels for '0' >vs '1'.

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RE: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by Larry Barello

Remember that Avcc supplies power to the analog port I/O pins (i.e. if you use them for regular I/O). Even if you only use them for analog inputs, the Schmitt trigger is still active - drawing different current levels for '0' vs '1'. If you use Avcc as your reference and if you h

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Re: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by David VanHorn

> >What method do you recomend for sourcing +V and -V to the opamp? Analog and digital grounds ideally are separated, and meet under the micro. I use 0 ohm resistors, since it's an easy way to fool your cad package into considering AGND and DGND as separate things. I take VCC thr

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Re: [AVR-Chat]Anyone used the ADC before?

2004-08-02 by Rodrigo Feher

On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Dave Mucha wrote: > Depending on the external value, you might need to use an op-amp to > change the value to get it to read so the highest voltage is the same > as the chips voltage. This means that if you are running on 3 > volts and the thing you want to r

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Re: DC-DC converter @ 500mA min

2004-08-02 by Phil

maxim's site is pretty well laid out to allow you to select the part you need. start here: http://www.maxim-ic.com/PowerSupplies.cfm?ln= --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, jay marante wrote: > does anyone have an idea of a DC-DC converter from maxim with a minimum of 500mA of outpu

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DC-DC converter @ 500mA min

2004-08-01 by jay marante

does anyone have an idea of a DC-DC converter from maxim with a minimum of 500mA of output current at 5V? i need it for a barcode reader with 330mA @ max current + AVR uC + servo @ least 10mA supply current. so im thinking of @ least 500mA. i have a max639 but only have a 225mA m

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-01 by David VanHorn

At 06:17 AM 8/1/2004, MuRaT KaRaDeNiZ wrote: >Hi, > >lithium polymer battery is does not like sourcing high >currents. The model aircraft world is using them in high drain apps without much problem. You don't want to discharge them more than 2C, but with such a small printer, tha

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-01 by MuRaT KaRaDeNiZ

Hi, lithium polymer battery is does not like sourcing high currents. NiCad's and NiMh's do. May be its better you start with rechargable battery tecnologies and decide the mode of voltage regulation after that. series connection of batteries during charging seems to me more appro

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-01 by David VanHorn

> >If your peak draw is short enough using a capacitor to provide the pulse >makes a lot of sense. Indeed it do. Thousands of uF. If you go fast, with high voltage, then the cap can get smaller. Fast is GOOD with thermal printers.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-01 by Kathy Quinlan

Ken Holt wrote: > Dave - > The question of adding an extra cell to an NiMH stack is one that is > vexing me at the moment. I hope that this battery discussion isn't > too much off-topic, As previously stated, anything electronics goes here, as what is an AVR without the support e

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-01 by Robert Adsett

At 11:03 PM 7/31/04 -0400, you wrote: >A quick run through on current draws gives a maximum current out at 5V of a >little over 3A with an input current from the battery pack of 10A and a >voltage drop of 1.48V (will the logic circuit still work?). Actually it's worse than that,

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-08-01 by Robert Adsett

At 02:13 PM 7/31/04 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Cobb, > >I probably didn't explain myself too well, plus my typo where I said >I wanted 3V from the converter, I really meant 5V. > >I have 4 batteries (this is the maximum room I have in my case). The >printer runs from 5V and consumes 3

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-07-31 by David VanHorn

> >I am trying to develop a modular portable power system based on >a unit of 10 or 11 NiMH F cells to replace the common 10 NiCad or >6 lead acid. Use of 11 NiMH cells would give about 12 V at the low end, >which would be an improvement, and would only be too high (>15V) when >c

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-07-31 by Ken Holt

Dave - The question of adding an extra cell to an NiMH stack is one that is vexing me at the moment. I hope that this battery discussion isn't too much off-topic, I appreciate getting people's battery experience dumped once in a while. Also, it's on-topic because so many AVR proj

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-07-31 by David VanHorn

> >Then don't connect them that way... Add a boost converter if you must >to cover the low voltage case of 4.4V when the batteries are drained, >but it's probably not worth the bother. NiCd batteries have less >internal resistance if you can find them. NIMH's are fine for this, I

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-07-31 by David VanHorn

> >the printer mechanism and controller both operate from 5V. I am not >intending to directly drive the logic, but to interface to the >printer controller by RS232. Ok, I understand. You can probably find something at your local model airplane shop, in Lithium Polymer batteries,

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: DC-DC converter

2004-07-31 by Mike Murphree

On Jul 31, 2004, at 9:13 AM, C Sizer wrote: > Hi Cobb, > > I probably didn't explain myself too well, plus my typo where I said > I wanted 3V from the converter, I really meant 5V. > > I have 4 batteries (this is the maximum room I have in my case). The > printer runs from 5V and

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Re: DC-DC converter

2004-07-31 by C Sizer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, David VanHorn wrote: > At 08:07 PM 7/30/2004, Mike Murphree wrote: > > > >On Jul 30, 2004, at 1:17 PM, Graham Davies wrote: > > > >> --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "C Sizer" wrote: > >> > >>> ... I want to use 4 x 2300mAh AA > >>> batteries in s

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