Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-25 by steve_the_composer
I suppose it might be a loose midi jack or a poor connection due to a soldering issue. But my guess is that other midi data (e.g., note on/off, patch change,
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Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-25 by Summa
Hi, I haven t watched all the communication about that topic yet, been a bit busy lately, so the approval of new members messages tend to be a bit slower than
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-25 by steve_the_composer
Yeah--I kind of didn t think it was a timing issue. If you had gotten the CZ to respond to the glide mode change, that would have been significant progress.
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-25 by steve_the_composer
Yeah--I am also big on hypothesizing, theorizing, and coming up with probable causes and possible solutions myself, but in the final analysis validation
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 [Back to the problem]
2013-08-25 by steve_the_composer
Thanks. I uploaded pictures (jpeg screenshots) in the Files section in a folder called Using Midi-Ox with your Casio CZ. They start with mio since these
Triangular Wave Modulation = Phase Distortion? (Casio PCM engine patents)
2013-08-25 by CYBERYOGI =CO= Windler
Triangular wave modulation (US patent 5164530) is an FM-like Casio speciality that generates waveforms by modulating a monotonous carrier function with a sine
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-24 by Robert G. Hays
Steve (,all), Theory has to yield to testing. But I did see this with other equipment & software on MIDI; just don t throw the idea completely away, although
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-24 by dedlandar
I appreciate all the suggestions you guys are making, a shame none of them are working. I tried limiting the low level output buffer to 1 byte, 1 buffer, with
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 [Back to the problem]
2013-08-24 by Daniel Forró
Excellent work! Daniel Forro
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 [Back to the problem]
2013-08-24 by steve_the_composer
Even if its a moot point, I decided to test a usb-midi interface cable. I opted for the iConnectivity mio. [It probably stands for midi in/out.] The test was
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-24 by steve_the_composer
I never got into that. However, I did get into visually examining the midi event list and manually tweaking the start (and sometimes the duration) of notes,
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by k9k9dog
remember people printing to tape with ADAT to run off their compositions and tighten everything up? :)
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by steve_the_composer
Now imagine doing a live performance with a sequencer playing 1 sound module having notes 10 notes on each of 16 midi channels (all on the down beat!) AND
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by steve_the_composer
Excellent explanation covering both theory and practical reality. Steve
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by Daniel Forró
Exactly what I have written few hours ago... ... Plus some controllers, pitch bend, and sometimes some short sysex in between... and better to filter
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by Gordon JC Pearce
... That s not quite true. For 31250 to be correct you d need to be able to time the notes right down to individual bits, and you can t. For a full 3-byte
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by Daniel Forró
No, no, no - sequencer resolution or tempo of music has nothing to do with MIDI data transfer, and high resolution can t improve MIDI timing, delay, latency or
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-23 by steve_the_composer
As people have pointed out, this group has been extremely active over the last day or two. I did not see any replies about your integer divisor statement;
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000 [Back to the problem]
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
With all of the side issues, I am wondering if you are still stuck with the CZ not responding to sysex. I called my local Guitar Center and found I can buy a
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-22 by charlie midi gfa
anybody remeber when they bought that really cool midi device and after a couple months they desired to uses sysex and it didn t work properily ? well i did
Re: Can't get sysex to work with a CZ-5000
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
With all due respect to you for your microprocessing expertise, after all the testing I did together with research and the various answers given to diagnostic
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by charlie midi gfa
im really thinking i should bring up buffer buffer is in these devices so chunks of data can be transfered at a time this is likeily to have an overall effect
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
Thanks for the link to the video. I am not sure that 1-2 millisecond variation in midi pulses is worth of being called a horror. I am sure that my playing is
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by jammie
i always found the sequencer crap on the ravolution and why i sold mine but the cyber6 has a nice 8 track sequencer and is much better to program and to string
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Loscha
If you make a video of audio on on trace of your scope, and MIDI on the other for any device, ANY device, you will get the exact same video. Shift the tempo
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by jammie
its the usb thats the problem not the midi usb to midi interfaces are the ones that mess up midi timing my hardware sequencers mpc60 and the quasimidi cyber6
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Loscha
This video does NOT prove USB MIDI interfaces do not have rock solid timing. This is corporate BS trying to pain their product (which multiplexes variate CV
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Lee Borrell
I am not quite clear on the mis-timing issue. MIDI is asynchronous - each item has it s own master clock used to transfer the bits across the communicating
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by fulfil_objective
Wow! Quite a lot of traffic in the old yahoo group today! :c) It looks like a made some highly erroneous statements, and I thank all of you for frankly calling
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by jammie
actually we have proven usb midi does drop notes out of time using an oscilloscope and expersleepers software and usb timing is not rock solid as midi from the
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Jason Adkins
lol,I don t agree with you the MSX basic was way better than the C64 crap basic,I agree the SID chip was way better than any other sound chip put into a
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Lee Borrell
I have to admit the CX5m looks like something the aliens left on earth in 2001,Space Odyssey...but it suffers from a basic written by MS,which once I started
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Jason Adkins
For patterned based sequencing I d use an MC50 or Alesis MMT8,even thought it has an AC psu with iffy style connector 3,5inch jack I think? and crappy rubber
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Daniel Forró
... I didn t like linear type of sequencer, pattern oriented Notator seemed to me more flexible and could be also used in linear way when necessary. And it
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Jason Adkins
Not my thing Notator, Cubase has always been my sequencer of choice although I did mess about with Breakthru 2+ at one point. I have 4 ST s but only using
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Daniel Forró
Steve, thanks for your message. I can assure you there s no arrogance or sarcasm in my messages, I m not that type. If you could feel something alike, then
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
LOL. It looks like we were talking at the same time in that we were replying to messages we each posted previously at the same time. Your posts written
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by jammie
like i said its already possible to make your equipment into midi over lan compatible the modules cost £45 and they are connected before the opto isolators on
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
Footnotes: (1) I googled Yamaha LAN and found some forum stuff with people having issues with it. (2) About 3 or 4 years ago, I ran a test of
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Daniel Forró
Agreement. Three ATARI still at my side, one Mega ST on my table with two HD and Ultrasatan. I ve been using them since 1988 :-) I was more Notator user but
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by k9k9dog
lol. MIDI sample dump cannot even be envisaged. dot. i hope nobody s going to start sl*gging MIDI (again). quite simply one of the best human inventions ever.
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Daniel Forró
... SCI used faster MIDI in some of their machines. ... Yamaha, Korg and maybe other firms have used also MIDI transfer through common Serial cable (with Mini
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Daniel Forró
... You are right. As I have mentioned, it was SCI who used in some of their machines faster MIDI. ... Nobody said it was you :-) ... This is how MIDI was
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
LOL. I would hate to see all currently existing midi gear made useless, though I can certainly see that as a possibility. In fact, with softsynths it has
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by bernard.escaillas
Hello, I am just a reader most of the time. But now this is a subject I have dealt with on many synth and many programmable custom devices (Arduino, mbed,
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
I am not sure I saved or bookmarked the MMA document that says that midi as a vehicle of communication is not limited to 31.25 kbps. I will look for it. In
Re: [CZsynth] Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Daniel Forró
Then maybe better forget about MIDI at all. It s a 30 years old standard, difficult if not impossible to improve. Even now some instruments (and numbers go up
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
As I commented, with the 5-pin din, current-loop optoisolator system used by gear manufacturers and hackers for the past several decades, we agree. To borrow a
Re: Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by steve_the_composer
Gee. Maybe I have been too polite. ;) Steve
Re: [CZsynth] Speed of sysex transfer
2013-08-22 by Francis Cote
If the machine has an issue with sysex speed, it s related to the number of MIDI messages it can process in a certain amount of time. If the synth can t