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VZ-8M

2001-06-01 by veygoth@buckeye-express.com

Thanks to the recommendations of the group a while back I picked up a 
VZ-8M for $99 on Ebay.  Not a bad deal from what I've seen.
 
What is the patch compatibility of this device?  I would guess that 
it's fully compatible with VZ-1 and VZ-10M patches/sysex.  How about 
the CZ patch compatibility?

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-01 by Furman, Jon W.

100% compatibility with VZ-10/1, 0 compatibility with the CZ series.
Practically speaking the VZs and the CZs are really very different animals.
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	Subject:	[CZsynth] VZ-8M

	Thanks to the recommendations of the group a while back I picked up
a 
	VZ-8M for $99 on Ebay.  Not a bad deal from what I've seen.
	 
	What is the patch compatibility of this device?  I would guess that 
	it's fully compatible with VZ-1 and VZ-10M patches/sysex.  How about

	the CZ patch compatibility?


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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-01 by Jeremy Pinkham

Your questions were already answered by Jon Furman, but here are some other
facts I picked up about the VZ-8M over on the EZ-VZ site, in case they are
of interest:

*  better stereo effects than the VZ-1 and VZ-10M -- apparently stereo
panning is unique to this unit
*  less polyphony per box than the VZ-10M, but unlike the VZ-10M, you can
chain a bunch of them together to get 64-voice polyphony
*  no graphic display?  unlike VZ-1 and VZ-10M, patch editing must be done
with a computer
*  the only VZ that can be used with the Casio guitar synth and wind synth,
I believe
*  you can actually edit sounds on the VZ-8M, save them to a RAM card, and
insert that card in the Casio guitar synth to get new sounds

Note, I don't have one myself.  Just gathered this much from research.

-- jp
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Subject: [CZsynth] VZ-8M


Thanks to the recommendations of the group a while back I picked up a VZ-8M
for $99 on Ebay.  [...] What is the patch compatibility of this device?  I
would guess that it's fully compatible with VZ-1 and VZ-10M patches/sysex.
How about the CZ patch compatibility?

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-01 by Furman, Jon W.

Thanks for filling in some of the details Jeremy, I have both an 8 and a10
and what you've said is all correct and dead on target. I personally think
that the VZ-8m's handling of stereo is a vast improvement over what Casio
had been doing before (CZ-1, VZ-1 etc.). I've never linked up multiple 8ms
but I would imagine that if that works pretty well then the 2 or more 8ms
linked pretty much destroys a single VZ10/1. Maybe someday I'll pick up a
second 8m and check it out. Also I've never programmed a VZ with the screen,
I do all my editing via PC, the patches get pretty complicated so that even
with the VZ1/10's better display I'm not sure how much it really helps. 
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	From:	Jeremy Pinkham [SMTP:forms@...]
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	To:	CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
	Subject:	RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

	Your questions were already answered by Jon Furman, but here are
some other
	facts I picked up about the VZ-8M over on the EZ-VZ site, in case
they are
	of interest:

	*  better stereo effects than the VZ-1 and VZ-10M -- apparently
stereo
	panning is unique to this unit
	*  less polyphony per box than the VZ-10M, but unlike the VZ-10M,
you can
	chain a bunch of them together to get 64-voice polyphony
	*  no graphic display?  unlike VZ-1 and VZ-10M, patch editing must
be done
	with a computer
	*  the only VZ that can be used with the Casio guitar synth and wind
synth,
	I believe
	*  you can actually edit sounds on the VZ-8M, save them to a RAM
card, and
	insert that card in the Casio guitar synth to get new sounds

	Note, I don't have one myself.  Just gathered this much from
research.

	-- jp


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	Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:06 AM
	To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: [CZsynth] VZ-8M


	Thanks to the recommendations of the group a while back I picked up
a VZ-8M
	for $99 on Ebay.  [...] What is the patch compatibility of this
device?  I
	would guess that it's fully compatible with VZ-1 and VZ-10M
patches/sysex.
	How about the CZ patch compatibility?



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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-02 by Jeremy Pinkham

I got myself so worked up chatting about it here, I bought a VZ-8M shortly
after this discussion earlier today for $100 with docs, as well as one RAM
and one ROM cart.  Should be pretty cool.  Don't know when it will arrive by
mail.

Discovered this page, which has a lot of cool VZ tips:

http://jpsongs.com/troubadortech/uspkbd.htm

Should also be getting my new (to me) CZ-1 on Wednesday...  It's the
replacement for my 15-year old, totally trashed CZ-5000.  I've never played
a CZ synth with velocity and aftertouch before, so this should be a neat
experience...

I'm a Casiophile; what can I say?

-- jp
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 12:32 PM
To: 'CZsynth@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M


Thanks for filling in some of the details Jeremy, I have both an 8 and a10
and what you've said is all correct and dead on target.

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-03 by john w.

this is going to make me seem stupid, seeing as i am
on this list and all, but i have never seen a casio
vz.  are they similar to the cz series?

nate

http://www.angelfire.com/art/trf

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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-03 by Jeremy Pinkham

Nate wrote:

"i have never seen a casio vz.  are they similar to the cz series?"

The VZ series was Casio's failed follow-up to the successful CZ series.
However, the failure of these synths wasn't due to inferior quality.  I've
read two different accounts of Casio's withdrawal from the pro synth market.
One claims that the Casio VZs didn't sell well because sample-playback
synths were coming into fashion and the VZ, as a pure synth sounded less
realistic.  Another account claims that the VZs actually sold well for a pro
synth, but Casio was used to sales volume in the consumer mass marketplace,
and were shocked that the fluke ultra-success of the CZ line wasn't
replicated by the VZs.  Casio, according to that account, weren't willing to
waste time on a niche market like pro instruments when they could sell
millions of calculators and toy keyboards instead.

Anyway, there are three VZ models.  The VZ-1, which is a keyboard, and the
VZ-10M and VZ-8M, which are both rack-mounted tone generators.  For more
information on the VZs, here are some links:

http://www.steveandsally.freeserve.co.uk/casio/
http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/Casio/VZ-1-01.html
http://www.harmony-central.com/Synth/Data/Casio/VZ-10M-01.html
http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/Casio_VZ1.cfm
http://www.sonicstate.com/synth/vz10m.cfm
http://machines.hyperreal.org/manufacturers/Casio/VZ/

Note that Harmony Central and Sonic State also have sections on all of the
CZ synths, if you're interested in more info on them.

Enjoy!

-- jp

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-03 by Summa

Hi,

they're both using Phase Distortion ... better known as Phase Modulation
what Yamaha calls FM...
Other then that, the CZ is PM in a subtractive box, so it's quite easy to
programm... 
The VZ synths are difficult to programm, other then most yamaha FM synths
you're able -with some limitations- to built up your own algorithms. Also
other operator waveforms are possible... That way the VZ sounds more like a
DX (but moslty warmer) then like a CZ synth..
Two week ago I started to write a little VZ programming tutorial, I don't
have much time and I'm not very far so I don't know when I'm ready with it.
Also every time I try to figure out how this things ticks I can't help
myself then starting to programm a new sound what gets me occupied for some
hours...  ;) but I'm going to upload it to the files section of that list,
as soon as I'm ready...
    

Summa


At 11:21 03.06.01 -0700, you wrote:
>this is going to make me seem stupid, seeing as i am
>on this list and all, but i have never seen a casio
>vz.  are they similar to the cz series?
>
>nate
>
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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Furman, Jon W.

That was a steal I think that I paid $200 for my VZ-8m in the early 90s.
With a cards and manuals too. Some people have said that those manuals are
hard to read but at least they're packaged well, nice and thick and bound
well.

You're going to love theCZ-1, it's like the "real" CZ. You can map the
velocity to the DCW "cutoff" and the DCA level, this really makes the CZ a
lot more expressive.  I got a CZ-1 after playing a CZ-1000 for many years, I
was very impressed with the CZ-1. You're going to love it. 

Speaking of the old CZs does anyone here know what the release dates and
original prices were for the CZ series? If I remember right I got my new
CZ1000 around '86 for somewhere around $300. 

	

	I got myself so worked up chatting about it here, I bought a VZ-8M
shortly
	after this discussion earlier today for $100 with docs, as well as
one RAM
	and one ROM cart.  Should be pretty cool.  Don't know when it will
arrive by
	mail.

	Discovered this page, which has a lot of cool VZ tips:

	http://jpsongs.com/troubadortech/uspkbd.htm

	Should also be getting my new (to me) CZ-1 on Wednesday...  It's the
	replacement for my 15-year old, totally trashed CZ-5000.  I've never
played
	a CZ synth with velocity and aftertouch before, so this should be a
neat
	experience...

	I'm a Casiophile; what can I say?

	-- jp

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Summa

Hi,

At 08:16 04.06.01 -0400, you wrote:
>That was a steal I think that I paid $200 for my VZ-8m in the early 90s.
>With a cards and manuals too. Some people have said that those manuals are
>hard to read but at least they're packaged well, nice and thick and bound
>well.

Do you have acess to a scanner, since it would be nice if someone could
create a copy of the manual of at least one of the VZ synths and upload it
to the file section of the list. Unfortunately I don't have a manual, other
then that I already would have scanned and uploaded it as I did with the
german manual of the CZ-1... 

>You're going to love theCZ-1, it's like the "real" CZ. You can map the
>velocity to the DCW "cutoff" and the DCA level, this really makes the CZ a
>lot more expressive.  I got a CZ-1 after playing a CZ-1000 for many years, I
>was very impressed with the CZ-1. You're going to love it. 
>
>Speaking of the old CZs does anyone here know what the release dates and
>original prices were for the CZ series? If I remember right I got my new
>CZ1000 around '86 for somewhere around $300. 

I bought my CZ-1 end of 1985 oder 86 for (if I'm not mistaken) about 2500DM...

The VZ-1 was -according to the Keyboards Magazine 1988- 2499DM... 

Regards!
      Summa

			     
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           +     /\      /\         
        /\ +  /\/  \    /  \        
+++++++/++\++/++++++\++/+++ \    /\  /\         /    O   
      /    \/        \/      \  /  \/  \ |   | /     |  /----
 /\  /     +                  \/        \\---/ ----  |  |
/  \/      +                  /\                  /     \----
           +                 /  \                / 
           +                 Nicknames  : Summa or SumGhost
           +                 AIM        : Flotorian
           +                 Born       : 1967
           +                 Profession : Student of Computer Science
           +	                     

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Casio CZ Synth Station      : http://www.mp3.com/stations/CZ/ 

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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Jeremy Pinkham

Jon Furman wrote:

"Speaking of the old CZs does anyone here know what the release dates and
original prices were for the CZ series? If I remember right I got my new
CZ1000 around '86 for somewhere around $300."

I don't have such a list, but I can tell you that I bought my new CZ5000
around the same time period (give or take a year) for something like $1,000
with a RA-3 RAM cartridge, plastic dust cover (which eventually fell apart)
and CZ-themed keyboard stand (which eventually warped out of shape -- cheap,
thin, hollow metal!) in a music store Okinawa, Japan.

-- jp

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Furman, Jon W.

Wasn't that dust cover cool!! I wish that more new synths came with
something like that. I still have the dust cover on my CZ-1000. 

This sort of confirms my suspicions about the CZs, I bet the higher up
models were much more expensive than the lower ones. I remember seeing a new
CZ in the music store back when I got the CZ-1000 and I don't remember the
price but I do remember that it was much much higher than the CZ-1000. I
remember being very impressed by the DCW velocity mapped CZ resonant wave
duck voice on that CZ-1 that day in the store. 
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	Jon Furman wrote:

	"Speaking of the old CZs does anyone here know what the release
dates and
	original prices were for the CZ series? If I remember right I got my
new
	CZ1000 around '86 for somewhere around $300."

	I don't have such a list, but I can tell you that I bought my new
CZ5000
	around the same time period (give or take a year) for something like
$1,000
	with a RA-3 RAM cartridge, plastic dust cover (which eventually fell
apart)
	and CZ-themed keyboard stand (which eventually warped out of shape
-- cheap,
	thin, hollow metal!) in a music store Okinawa, Japan.

	-- jp


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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Jeremy Pinkham

Jon Furman wrote:

"This sort of confirms my suspicions about the CZs, I bet the higher up
models were much more expensive than the lower ones."

But the cool part is that today that price range is narrow to almost
non-existent.  On eBay, I've seen the CZ-101 go for $100 or more, yet I
recently won an auction for a CZ-1 with three ROM carts, a RAM cart, and a
third-party book on CZ programming for $200.

Of course, it hasn't arrived in the mail yet (should be here by Wed.), so I
guess I shouldn't jinx the deal by talking before it gets here...  It may
turn out to be three bricks in a box!

Hee hee,

-- jp

RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Furman, Jon W.

Amen to that..I bought a CZ-5000 for about $100 from my girlfriends dad (he
owns a junk shop), you can't beat that. Plus, believe it or not, customer
support from Casio is still pretty good (free manuals, replacement parts,
etc). 
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	Jon Furman wrote:

	"This sort of confirms my suspicions about the CZs, I bet the higher
up
	models were much more expensive than the lower ones."

	But the cool part is that today that price range is narrow to almost
	non-existent.  On eBay, I've seen the CZ-101 go for $100 or more,
yet I
	recently won an auction for a CZ-1 with three ROM carts, a RAM cart,
and a
	third-party book on CZ programming for $200.

	Of course, it hasn't arrived in the mail yet (should be here by
Wed.), so I
	guess I shouldn't jinx the deal by talking before it gets here...
It may
	turn out to be three bricks in a box!

	Hee hee,

	-- jp





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RE: [CZsynth] VZ-8M

2001-06-04 by Atom 'Smasher'

> But the cool part is that today that price range is narrow to almost
> non-existent.
=======================================================

or even reverse....

i've seen people pay more for a CZ-101, than for a CZ-1.

	...atom

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Re: VZ-8M

2001-06-05 by Terry

:
> Jon Furman wrote:
> But the cool part is that today that price range is narrow to almost
> non-existent.  On eBay, I've seen the CZ-101 go for $100 or more, 
yet I
> recently won an auction for a CZ-1 with three ROM carts, a RAM
cart, 
and a
> third-party book on CZ programming for $200.

Hi Jon,
 Any chance you could load the RC-30 cart into the CZ-1 and do a .syx 
dump and send me the file. I have been wondering what these presets 
sound like. (Organs,Synths) It would be a 22K file, about 4K if you 
zip it. I have the other two cart files on a CZ site you can have a 
look at here :
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Frontrow/4877/cz101.html
 The RC-30 is the only cart I don't have. Some of the presets on the 
other two are gems, but most are average. 
 
Hey, good luck with you purchase. Unfortunately you never know what 
the real condition is, till you get it home and open it. I recently 
purchased a brand new CZ-101 on the net. It was the most beautiful CZ 
I have ever seen. The charcoal finish looked like shiny metal-flake 
paint. Not a scratch on the unit, everything original, right down to 
the 15 year old original Japanese batteries inside of it. What a mess 
that was to clean up! Brown goop everywhere.

Terry

RE: [CZsynth] Re: VZ-8M

2001-06-06 by Jeremy Pinkham

Terry:

Hi; I'm the one who wrote that part of Jon's message; he was quoting me.

It's been a long time since I've done a .syx dump from a CZ (I usually use
CZ Android on the Atari for patch editing, but that won't help in this case,
as I'll need the file on my PC).  To make it easier for me to share these
patches with you, could you send me step-by-step instructions on how to do a
.syx dump from a CZ-1 cartridge to a PC sequencer (or freeware utility, if
there's one for this task), and then how to save that data from such a
program to the kind of file format you're requesting?  (I'm fine on the .zip
part of the task...  No guidance needed there.)  Without instructions, I'm a
bit rusty on this stuff, and it will take me that much longer to get around
to this, as I don't have a lot of time to research the subject at the
moment.

Thanks,

-- jp

CZ-1 sysex dumps

2001-06-06 by Terry

Hi Jeremy,
 That would be great. I'll have to set up the CZ-1 next to computer 
to get the exact steps involved. I'm pretty sure though you have to 
first dump the cart to the CZ-1, then you can send the sysex 
message to your PC. So if you have some of your favorite patches 
loaded into user memory, you may not want to risk overwriting these. 
I'll figure this out tomorrow and write back to the list.
 In the mean time, I uploaded a small sysex utility for Win 3.1 (no 
long file names), that works great for saving/loading patches to any 
CZ, called "Dumpster".(It was designed to work for the CZ-101). You 
can find it at the bottom of this page:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Frontrow/4877/cz101.html

More info tomorrow.
Terry

Re: CZ-1 sysex dumps

2001-06-07 by Terry

Hi Jeremy,
 Here is what I came up with. A long description, but hopefully a 
clear one, of how to make Sysex saves/dumps on the CZ-1. At the end 
there is a short version. Just a few button pushes,and mouse clicks 
really!
1)   First make sure you have the correct connections between 
the CZ-1 and  computer. MIDI in on the CZ to MIDI out on 
the PC, and the MIDI out on the CZ to the MIDI in on the PC.
2)   Power up the CZ-1, and select the "MIDI" button. (first 
button to the left of the LCD display). Screen should read 
"POLY, KBCH=01, CH=01, PRG=ENA". The KBCH= is 
your send channel, and CH= is the receive channel. (if you use 
cakewalk or similar program for sysex dumps these should be 
set to the same as the channel on the program, "Dumpster" 
sends and receives on all channels.)
3)  Next you want to press the "Page Up" button. (labeled "UP" 
located under the LCD display). Screen should now read 
"SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE  TONE DATA=DIS". Press the 
"VALUE" button labeled either  "arrow up" or "arrow down". 
Display should now read "SYSTEM EXCLUSIVE  TONE 
DATA=ENA". This just enabled the sending and receiving of 
sysex info on the CZ-1. On power up this is always set to 
"DIS", disabled by default. 
 4)  Now that the CZ is ready for sysex dumps, you can start 
the MIDI utility on the PC. If you are using Dumpster, start the 
dumpster.exe. You will have to configure the MIDI ports by 
clicking on "Options" then "MIDI devices". This will open a 
window where you can select from a list, the correct MIDI 
in/out ports. The program is now configured and ready to go.
 5)  Next you will want to make sure that you can save and load 
the data safely between the computer and the CZ-1. The sysex 
dump file is exactly 22016 bytes. It contains the 64 patch 
memories, and 64 operation memories. First thing to do is make 
a backup of the memories currently on the CZ-1. This is done 
by clicking on "<start dump on instrument>",then clicking on the 
"receive" button on Dumpster. Another window will open 
"sysex receive", clicking on the "start" button , and the program 
is waiting for the sysex dump from the CZ.
6)  Now over to the CZ, press the "CARTRIDGE/MIDI" 
button. (Located to the right of the LCD display). Screen 
should read "CARTRIDGE   SAVE OR LOAD". Now press 
the "PAGE UP" button. Screen should now read "MIDI   
SAVE OR LOAD". Next press the "VALUE" button labeled 
"arrow down / SAVE". Screen should now read "SAVE MIDI 
DATA (Y/N) ?". Pressing the "CURSOR" button labeled 
"arrow right / YES" will start the sysex dump. 
 7)   If all is going well the CZ display will read "SAVE MIDI 
DATA  RUN!" and the Sysex receive window on Dumpster 
should be counting the bytes it is receiving. The dump should 
take aprox. 30 seconds.  When completed the CZ should read 
"SAVE MIDI DATA OK! ", and Dumpster  Sysex receive 
window should display 22016 bytes received. 
8)   You can now save the sysex file you just uploaded from the 
CZ-1, by pressing the "DONE" button on the Sysex receive 
window(Dumpster). You should now see at the bottom of the Dumpster 
window "22016 bytes in buffer". By clicking on "File "then 
selecting "Save As" you can save the .syx file  any where on 
your hard drive or floppy. (only 8 characters though as this is a 
win 3.1 utility). If that number isn't exactly 22016 the info is 
corrupt. 

 9) Up until now the CZ-1 memories have only been saved to 
the PC, the next step involves writing to the CZ memories. The 
first write should be the one you just saved to verify it is not 
corrupt and you have good two-way communication between 
the PC and CZ-1.
To send back the sysex file all you have to do is make sure the 
"Memory Protect Switch" on the back of the CZ is set to 
"OFF". 
10)  Next step is on Dumpster, click on the send button. (the 
original sysex you saved is still in the buffer ). Another window 
will open, "Sysex send". Click on the "START" button to send 
the Sysex info back to the CZ-1. During the dump to the CZ-1 
you should see the LED's on the program select, cycling through 
the 64 user memories then the 64 operation memories. Finally 
stopping on operation memory H8 (64). 
 11)  If all went well the CZ-1 still has the original user 
memories, and you have a good back up of the these. You can 
now write anything you want to memory save it and restore it at 
will. Unfortunately I have not figured out how to send single 
patches or all of the 16 bank CZ-101/1000/3000/5000  files you can 
find on the net. I have to send them to a CZ-101, then transfer 
them to the CZ-1. I'll have to work on this some more.

12)  Making a Sysex dump of a RAM or ROM CZ-1 
cartridge. Power should be off when inserting cartridges. Insert 
cartridge. Repeat steps 2 and 3 to enable sysex. 
13)  You must first dump the cartridge to the user memories to 
save them as a Sysex file. Make sure the "Memory Protect 
Switch" is "OFF".
14)  Press the "CARTRIDGE/MIDI" button. Screen should 
read "CARTRIDGE LOAD OR SAVE"
15) Press "VALUE" button labeled "LOAD". Screen should 
read "LOAD CARTRIDGE  (Y/N) ?".
16)  Press "CURSOR" button labeled "YES".  Screen should 
read "LOAD CARTRIDGE OK!" The cartridge is now loaded 
into the 64 user memories and 64 operation memories.
17)  Repeat steps 5 through 8 to save a sysex file of the 
cartridge.Make sure you give it a different file name or you will 
overwrite the original file you saved. 

18) Short hand version of a CZ-1 Sysex save.   Power on 
CZ-1. Press MIDI button. Press "Page Up". Press "Value" 
button (up or down). Press "Midi/Cartridge" button. Press 
"Page Up" button. Press "Save" button. On Dumpster click " 
Receive" then "Start".
Press "Yes" button on CZ. Done. (Simple,right?)

 Something to try anyhow. Hope I didn't forget anything.
Here is the link again with the Dumpster utility and some CZ-1 Sysex 
dumps:
http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Frontrow/4877/cz101.html
Terry

RE: [CZsynth] Re: CZ-1 sysex dumps

2001-06-07 by Jeremy Pinkham

After all of those instructions (thank you for them; they were helpful), I
ended up deviating from them somewhat.  I made the SYX dump using
SoundDiver, exported to SYX format.  The file is now uploaded to the Files
section of the CZsynth group.  (Look under CZ sounds.)  Let me know if it
works.  If not, I'll try again.

Note to group:  this is a bulk dump of a sound library for the CZ-1; I don't
think it will work with other Casio synths.

-- jp.


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Re: CZ-1 sysex dumps

2001-06-07 by Terry

Thanks Jeremy,
 Was able to load them into my CZ-1. There are some great patches in 
there. The RC-30 is probably the best of the three cartridges. Thanks 
again for taking the time to save these for me. I'll put the 22016 
byte version up on my CZ page. If I have time I'll try to convert 
these to the standard CZ-101/1K/3K/5K banks. (Involves dumping the 
last 16 CZ-1 presets to a CZ-101, then using the exchange function to 
move the other 48 patches to the last 16.)
 Terry

Move to quarantaine

This moves the raw source file on disk only. The archive index is not changed automatically, so you still need to run a manual refresh afterward.