Re: [Evolver] Sysex and Edirol
2004-05-12 by Joe Melnyk
... which is exactly what I said :-) but you definitely gave a better explanation! anyway, I m glad you two walked through this, so that I can do it once I
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2004-05-12 by Joe Melnyk
... which is exactly what I said :-) but you definitely gave a better explanation! anyway, I m glad you two walked through this, so that I can do it once I
2004-05-12 by Mark Pulver
... No, you re really close. I don t have the manual or anything in front of me, but what s happening is that it looks like Dave is using two bytes in the
2004-05-12 by Joe Melnyk
... I don t see what makes you think they re the range. it just says parameter value . I *believe* this means the value you want the parameter in line 6 to be
2004-05-12 by Robert Krueger
Weird, my second message arrived before my first.... Wtf No wonder that doesn t make any sense :) MY first message : Okay, walk me through this if you could
2004-05-12 by phonophobie
what are you talking about ...hehe ;) keep on tweaking it - let us know when you have success cheers phono ... earlier
2004-05-12 by Robert Krueger
Wait, I think I got it The two nibbles make up the single byte, M - most significant L - least significant The byte is MMMM LLLL Binary of 100 is 1100100 My
2004-05-12 by implode7@comcast.net
Yeah - that s the one I downloaded. I am running os 9.1, and this did not run on my computer. ... I got this note forwarded to me the other day: The Mac OSX
2004-05-12 by Robert Krueger
Okay, walk me through this if you could and let me know if I got this down. To program a Program Parameter (page46), it is built as follows : 1111 0000 System
2004-05-12 by Mark Pulver
... I got this note forwarded to me the other day: The Mac OSX editor is now available at http://www.soundtower.com/poly_mac - hope that helps out! I haven t
2004-05-12 by Robert Krueger
AHHhhhhh... That makes some sense. Okay, I was close when saying it is the range of the midi paramter values. I ll read over your explanation a few more
2004-05-12 by Mark Pulver
... MS = Most Significant LS = Least Significant a Nibble = 1/2 of a byte Byte = 8 bit value (decimal 0-255) For example... The decimal value 34 is 100010
2004-05-12 by Robert Krueger
The only problem with things like Filter is that it has more than 128 steps, and the Edirol doesn t seem to allow values ranges over 127. I m still working on
2004-05-12 by Gene Schwartz
Interesting - I had seen os 9 originally, but Dave s site just said os x yesterday. I tried downloading the demo below, and I got an error type 12. It doesn t
2004-05-12 by rickyannotta
Robert, Sounds like you have made some headway with the Edirol and the Evolver. I remember sitting down with PCR editor and the Evo manual and wanting to shoot
2004-05-12 by quest pond
Okay still dont see why they couldn t program it to learn a range, turning the knobs through its entire range of motion will transmit a full range its not
2004-05-12 by Robert Krueger
No, there is no learn function. It would be impossible for it to learn that way b/c for a lot of these values, you have to input a RANGE of values. Since at
2004-05-12 by quest pond
Doesnt edirol have a learn function? where you can adjust the parameters on the machine and the controller automatically learns what to control? If not then
2004-05-12 by rkruege1
Okay, I ve made some headway in getting this Edirol to work as a remote controller with the Evovler. You can fully program every key, slider, knob, and
2004-05-12 by Alex
... can t use it... It says osx and classic 8/9 here: http://www.midiedit.com/evolver/index.htm#poly Maybe it’s carbon?
2004-05-11 by niall munnelly
... loverly1 i hope i can crossgrade. i only used the windows one i bought a few times with my laptop. -- yours, niall. .. . . . . . .
2004-05-11 by implode7@comcast.net
Yeah - I was disappointed to see that it s os x. I ve waited a long time, and now I can t use it...
2004-05-11 by deranka
... Just noticed that the mac os x editor has been released - hooray!!!!
2004-05-11 by Ravi Ivan Sharma
I will ask dave if there could be a feature to toggle this feature off and on. Ravi ... From: Carlos (1b) To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 10,
2004-05-11 by phonophobie
Well, i don´t care about total CC control that much. I am happy with the evolver. It would be enough for me when dsi could add just a few new modulators
2004-05-11 by not known
... I think it s interpolated for the modulation busses but no smoothing on the actual controllers, as mentioned in other folks replies already. hence why you
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
Looks like the Edirol boards are SYSEX programmable. So I ve spent the last couple hours trying to figure out how to read what these Evolver sysex parameters
2004-05-11 by Richard Scott
exactly - a handful of perameters would be enough, but they should be user-assignible. That means another layer in the synth, to determine which of the evolver
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
... More than just a few.... ... I really shouldn t have to purchase additional hardware, a software update seems like a simpler, cheaper solution :) I feel
2004-05-11 by Mark Pulver
... How many params do you _NEED_ to control at once? The Peavey PC-1600, Encore Slidemate and Knobby are excellent products: Peavey:
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
What remote controller do you know of that is programmed to understand Evolver SYSEX so that I can freely control it s parameters in realtime, and not spend
2004-05-11 by Joe Melnyk
... right, but I was addressing the issue of non-freely assignable CC s in combination with a few Sysex-controllable parameters. it s more general - you
2004-05-11 by Miles Bader
... You can -- see page 46 in the manual, `System Exclusive Messages - Program Parameters. -Miles -- My spirit felt washed. With blood. [Eli Shin, on The
2004-05-11 by dhamaryder
... assignable. ... Yes, great idea. But why not have them all freely assignable? This is the way the Nord Modular works. It s so handy. Of course you don t
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
... Um, what did you expect? -Miles -- ... Ummmm... I expected to be able to at least control the various parameters with a remote controller, especially
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
... Yes, the evolver has more than 128 parameters. But the point is you don t need 120+ CC controllers at once! The CC s on these modern synths, like the
2004-05-11 by Joe Melnyk
... great post, man. but I think it would be easy to chuck out 7 different parameters (therefore leaving you with the 120 possible on the MIDI channel) that
2004-05-11 by Miles Bader
... Um, what did you expect? -Miles -- Though they may have different meanings, the cries of Yeeeee-haw! and Allahu akbar! are, in spirit, not actually
2004-05-11 by mr julian
OK.. the one *major* issue with having CCs to control evolvers parameters, as discussed before, is that the evolver has more than 128 parameters that people
2004-05-11 by phonophobie
Hi, complete parameter live tweaking is not possible so far. maybe in the future - but i wouldn´t count on it. You can use the 5 CC´s mods anyway - with
2004-05-11 by Carlos (1b)
ok, cool then, thanks again ... distortion, ... etc
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
No, they are not smoothed. You can get very smooth delay time, distortion, etc, buy using the many LFO s available as modulation sources. ... From: Carlos
2004-05-11 by Carlos (1b)
so the resonance, delay time, distorsion, lfo frequency, amount, etc are NOT right??? ... and i
2004-05-11 by Carlos (1b)
thanks man! yeah i suppose i have to deal more time with it... and for sure the analog sources sound better and fatter!!! the thing i am refering to is about
2004-05-11 by Miles Bader
... The filter-cutoff is smoothed, but other controls are not. -Miles -- The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --Albert Einstein
2004-05-11 by Carlos (1b)
Yeah i noticed this thing too, and let me tell you it SUCKS!!! i got mine for live playing and tweak, this is crap! so how i am supposed to do a cool filter
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
I m not sure what you re hearing. The lowpass filter is a true analog filter while the MS2000 is a digitally emulated filter. Can t get much smoother than an
2004-05-11 by Carlos (1b)
so the evolver uses interpolation or not? i`m new to this synth and i can hear some nasty clicks when i change the delay time
2004-05-11 by Carlos (1b)
hi people, just got my new evolver 2.0, this is my second H/W synth as i have a korg ms2000 wich i love, this seems to be an awesome synth but i`m noticing
2004-05-11 by Robert Krueger
http://www.bome.com/midi/ I haven t used the program yet, but this seems to be able to do exactly what we are asking. I just got my PCR-80 delivered today in
2004-05-10 by rickyannotta
I have the PCR-50 as well, which claims to support SYSEX messages. I have no understanding of how SYSEX works, but took a look at the PCR s editor & Evo s