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QTR instructions for Mac?

2011-06-04 by David Kachel

Are there any more recent instructions for setting up QTR, particularly with
the Mac?
What I got with the QTR download is both Windows-centric and dated,
sufficiently that although I have used Windows off and on over the years, I
still can't make much sense of it. Even the few Mac screenshots are
sufficiently out of date to not make much sense currently.

For example, do I really have to print from a .tif file only? Or is that a
Windows consideration?

I may have just partially answered that last question for myself. I Printed
the inkseparation8.tif file from Preview instead of Photoshop and finally
got a page that I believe looks right. I could not get a reasonable print
from the same file using Photoshop.

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Re: [Digital BW] QTR instructions for Mac?

2011-06-04 by Terry Ritz

I can help with one of your queries, David. On the QTR list Roy suggested
the following process to print calibration targets. . .

==== 
Due to lack of a No Color Management in CS5, printing calib in CS5 is
harder.
Assign sRGB to the target file, then print with PS manages color and sRGB as
the Print profile.    (there's no way to do it in Lightroom)

Roy
====

Terry.
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On 11-06-04 1:00 PM, "David Kachel" <david@...> wrote:

> Are there any more recent instructions for setting up QTR, particularly with
> the Mac?
> What I got with the QTR download is both Windows-centric and dated,
> sufficiently that although I have used Windows off and on over the years, I
> still can't make much sense of it. Even the few Mac screenshots are
> sufficiently out of date to not make much sense currently.
> 
> For example, do I really have to print from a .tif file only? Or is that a
> Windows consideration?
> 
> I may have just partially answered that last question for myself. I Printed
> the inkseparation8.tif file from Preview instead of Photoshop and finally
> got a page that I believe looks right. I could not get a reasonable print
> from the same file using Photoshop.
> 
> David Kachel

Re: [Digital BW] QTR instructions for Mac?

2011-06-04 by David Kachel

>>> Due to lack of a No Color Management in CS5, printing calib in CS5 is
harder.
Assign sRGB to the target file, then print with PS manages color and sRGB as
the Print profile. (there's no way to do it in Lightroom)


Thanks, but I just tried that and got an ink soaked mess.


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Re: [Digital BW] QTR instructions for Mac?

2011-06-05 by Terry Ritz

On 11-06-04 5:59 PM, "David Kachel" <david@...> wrote:

>>>> Due to lack of a No Color Management in CS5, printing calib in CS5 is
> harder.
> Assign sRGB to the target file, then print with PS manages color and sRGB as
> the Print profile. (there's no way to do it in Lightroom)
> 
> 
> Thanks, but I just tried that and got an ink soaked mess.

That's strange. I followed this process last night and printed the 1st strip
to determine the ink limit for K. I've not measured it yet, but it looks
about right.

Terry.

Re: [Digital BW] QTR instructions for Mac?

2011-06-05 by David Kachel

>>> That's strange. I followed this process last night and printed the 1st strip
to determine the ink limit for K. I've not measured it yet, but it looks
about right.

Hmmm. Can you send me screen shots of all the settings you input?


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Re: [Digital BW] QTR instructions for Mac?

2011-06-05 by Terry Ritz

Message sent.

Terry.
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On 11-06-04 7:01 PM, "David Kachel" <david@...> wrote:

>>>> That's strange. I followed this process last night and printed the 1st
>>>> strip
> to determine the ink limit for K. I've not measured it yet, but it looks
> about right.
> 
> Hmmm. Can you send me screen shots of all the settings you input?

Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-06 by David Kachel

I am hoping someone has this same combination and can move me along.

I can now print a step tablet test page out of Photoshop CS5 but when I try
to use the QTR supplied generic profile for the OVI hextone inks I get all
grays, no browns. I also don't get at all, why if the profile is already in
a folder in Library-Printers-QTR, etc., it needs an installer script to be
run from within that same folder? Where is it getting installed if not to
where it already is??

I have tried altering the color space of the file in Photoshop. I have tried
flattening the file. I have tried printing a flattened .tif file from
Preview instead of Photoshop. I have tried printing as 8 bit instead of 16
bit. I cannot get any brown tones to print. (Nozzle checks are perfect.) I
have even tried altering the .qdif file in Library-Printers-QTRŠ To get some
sort of change, nothing. (Since it apparently needs to be 'installed' from
there to some other mystery location, I understand why this last might not
have worked.)

All I want to do is open an image in Photoshop and get a QTR print from one
of my images that shows me a rough approximation of the brown tones
available from this ink set before I dig further into the Machiavellian
calibration process that the QTR manual sets forth in its very strange
language.

David Kachel

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Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-06 by tboleyyh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, David Kachel <david@...> wrote:
>
> I am hoping someone has this same combination and can move me along.
> 
> I can now print a step tablet test page out of Photoshop CS5 but when I try
> to use the QTR supplied generic profile for the OVI hextone inks I get all
> grays, no browns. I also don't get at all, why if the profile is already in
> a folder in Library-Printers-QTR, etc., it needs an installer script to be
> run from within that same folder? Where is it getting installed if not to
> where it already is??

On Mac it gets installed from the profiles folder that came with the download deeper into the libraries under printer ppds etc... don't recall exactly where but you can find it.. the whys of this stuff stopped being fascinating years ago... I just do it and get to work...
But I don't think it's just moved there, the install is important.
Not sure that is why you are getting improper results though, if it shows up on the list in the QTR dialog for selection it got installed. Can you print the ink sep file in calibration mode to make sure all inks are printing and look correct?

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-06 by David Kachel

>>> Not sure that is why you are getting improper results though, if it shows up
on the list in the QTR dialog for selection it got installed. Can you print the
ink sep file in calibration mode to make sure all inks are printing and look
correct?

Yes, but only after converting it to sRGB which makes not sense to me at
all. Converting my image file to sRGB makes not difference.


David Kachel

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[Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-06 by tboleyyh

it's the Mac/Adobe/Epson color management nightmare. The file should have been untagged so conversion not possible, rather it should be assigned sRGB, then additionally sRGB is chosen as the printer profile in the PS print dialogue when letting PS manage color. This is only for the ink sep file, your normal image files, presumably in grayscale don't require this insanity.
Still, if the ink sep file looks correct, than then when printing a real file your proper curve is available on the list for selection (indication it is installed) and the result not right then there is some other problem, either the curve itself, a setting in QTR, something... have you tried the QTR forum? 

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> >>> Not sure that is why you are getting improper results though, if it shows up
> on the list in the QTR dialog for selection it got installed. Can you print the
> ink sep file in calibration mode to make sure all inks are printing and look
> correct?
> 
> Yes, but only after converting it to sRGB which makes not sense to me at
> all. Converting my image file to sRGB makes not difference.
> 
> 
> David Kachel
> 
> ___________________
> 
> Artist-Photographer
> Fine B&W Photographs
> 
> www.davidkachel.com
> david@...
> 
> Gallery:
> www.reddoorfinephotographs.com
> director@...
> 
> PO Box  1893
> Alpine, TX 79831
> (432) 386-5787
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-06 by David Kachel

>>> ... have you tried the QTR forum?

Just signed on this morning. Haven't posted yet. Thanks.

David Kachel

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-07 by David Kachel

Still getting absolutely nowhere. Is anyone printing from a Mac, with
Photoshop CS5 using B&W only inks (not UC and not Piezo) through QTR?

I need to know all the settings used as my images are printing with black
(MK) ink only.


David Kachel

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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-07 by Tom Mallonee

David,
 
I'm not sure why you would suspect that the particular monochromatic inkset
(OVI's) would result in black-only prints. The OVI ink densities and
probably the ink order are certainly different that IJM, MIS, or K3s (for a
reason), but that wouldn't cause only the black channel to fire - the
software would. If you getting nozzle checks that are representative of what
inks are in the carts, then the printer and inks are fine.
 
Sometimes the QTR profiles do not install correctly on the Mac and you can
get black prints - I've heard of it happening twice.  Reinstallation and/or
a different file format (QIDF vs. QUAD) should solve it. I am going to send
you instructions and a new QIDF file offline. In the meantime I would
suggest that you keep the QTR tech posts confined to the QTR forum where the
expertize in these matters in concentrated. 
 
 
 
Tom Mallonee
Owens Valley Imaging
www.ovimaging.com
760.873.8501
 
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Still getting absolutely nowhere. Is anyone printing from a Mac, with
Photoshop CS5 using B&W only inks (not UC and not Piezo) through QTR?

I need to know all the settings used as my images are printing with black
(MK) ink only.

David Kachel

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-07 by David Kachel

>>> I'm not sure why you would suspect that the particular monochromatic inkset
(OVI's) would result in black-only prints.

I don't. You misunderstood. I have no reason to think the ink set is at
fault. 

>>>but that wouldn't cause only the black channel to fire - the
software would. If you getting nozzle checks that are representative of what
inks are in the carts, then the printer and inks are fine.

 My conclusions also.

>>>  In the meantime I would
suggest that you keep the QTR tech posts confined to the QTR forum where the
expertize in these matters in concentrated.

I learned about that forum yesterday, signed on and posted. So far, no
responses.


David Kachel

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Re: [Digital BW] Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-07 by Mike Finley

Sorry I can't help, as I have neither a Mac system nor the OVI inks or 
profiles, however you may be best served by asking OVI for support, if 
you haven't already. As far as I can see QTR doesn't normally come with 
profiles for the OVI inks. If the QTR manual was supplied by OVI, they 
may in addition be using QTR in a non-standard fashion. If you're using 
the QTR profiles supplied for the ultrachrome inks, these use mostly the 
3 monochrome inks MK(PK), LK and LLK, and only a small amount of the 
other colours, so may not show much variation with the OVI inks.

Just editting the qidf file won't have any effect - it is a more human 
readable (and editable) file that needs to be compiled into the machine 
readable quad file that the qtr driver actually uses. That's why it 
needs to be 'installed'.

On 06/06/2011 12:47, David Kachel wrote:
>
> I am hoping someone has this same combination and can move me along.
>
> I can now print a step tablet test page out of Photoshop CS5 but when 
> I try
> to use the QTR supplied generic profile for the OVI hextone inks I get all
> grays, no browns. I also don't get at all, why if the profile is 
> already in
> a folder in Library-Printers-QTR, etc., it needs an installer script to be
> run from within that same folder? Where is it getting installed if not to
> where it already is??
>
> I have tried altering the color space of the file in Photoshop. I have 
> tried
> flattening the file. I have tried printing a flattened .tif file from
> Preview instead of Photoshop. I have tried printing as 8 bit instead of 16
> bit. I cannot get any brown tones to print. (Nozzle checks are perfect.) I
> have even tried altering the .qdif file in Library-Printers-QTRS( To 
> get some
> sort of change, nothing. (Since it apparently needs to be 'installed' from
> there to some other mystery location, I understand why this last might not
> have worked.)
>
> All I want to do is open an image in Photoshop and get a QTR print 
> from one
> of my images that shows me a rough approximation of the brown tones
> available from this ink set before I dig further into the Machiavellian
> calibration process that the QTR manual sets forth in its very strange
> language.
>
> David Kachel
>
> ___________________
>
> Artist-Photographer
> Fine B&W Photographs
>
> www.davidkachel.com
> david@... <mailto:david%40davidkachel.com>
>
> Gallery:
> www.reddoorfinephotographs.com
> director@... 
> <mailto:director%40reddoorfinephotographs.com>
>
> PO Box 1893
> Alpine, TX 79831
> (432) 386-5787
>

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RE: [Digital BW] Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-07 by Tom Mallonee

Roy and I have talked about including the OVI profiles as part of the QTR
setup, but for now OVI supplies them. They are somewhat unusual and
difficult to make but they're not really non-standard - they install and run
like any others. I have a lot of them covered, but I'm still developing
printer/paper/print color profiles. I'm also issuing the occasional update
and modifications at the request of clients. Even if Roy did include them,
right now I'd be driving him nuts - and he's too sweet of a guy to torment
like that.
 
Cheers,
 
Tom
 
Tom Mallonee
Owens Valley Imaging
www.ovimaging.com
760.873.8501
 
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Sorry I can't help, as I have neither a Mac system nor the OVI inks or 
profiles, however you may be best served by asking OVI for support, if 
you haven't already. As far as I can see QTR doesn't normally come with 
profiles for the OVI inks. If the QTR manual was supplied by OVI, they 
may in addition be using QTR in a non-standard fashion. If you're using 
the QTR profiles supplied for the ultrachrome inks, these use mostly the 
3 monochrome inks MK(PK), LK and LLK, and only a small amount of the 
other colours, so may not show much variation with the OVI inks.

Just editting the qidf file won't have any effect - it is a more human 
readable (and editable) file that needs to be compiled into the machine 
readable quad file that the qtr driver actually uses. That's why it 
needs to be 'installed'.





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Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by Roy

David,

You haven't given much of any indication what you are actually doing to print.

If you have OVI inks and the appropriate curves its a pretty turnkey system.
But you need to install it all and print with OVI curves.  If you are getting "neutral gray"
prints it sounds like you a printing with a neutral gray curve.   That's the idea.
If you want a warm print then you have to use a curve designed for that.
If you are truly getting just MK then you are not using a curve -- the software
warns you about this -- and the print would be warm since MK is warm.

Roy

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> Still getting absolutely nowhere. Is anyone printing from a Mac, with
> Photoshop CS5 using B&W only inks (not UC and not Piezo) through QTR?
> 
> I need to know all the settings used as my images are printing with black
> (MK) ink only.
> 
> 
> David Kachel
> 
> ___________________
> 
> Artist-Photographer
> Fine B&W Photographs
> 
> www.davidkachel.com
> david@...
> 
> Gallery:
> www.reddoorfinephotographs.com
> director@...
> 
> PO Box  1893
> Alpine, TX 79831
> (432) 386-5787
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by David Kachel

>>> If you want a warm print then you have to use a curve designed for that.

Thanks for responding.
In the folder /Library/Printers/QTR/quadtone/Quad3800/ is the file
OVI_3800_HPR.quad
That is what I am using, or at least what I believe I am using. In the QTR
dialog I am able to set Curve 1 to OVI_3800_HPR.

I have been assuming it is the way I am setting up to print; file type,
color space, color handling, printer profile, but I have tried every
variation I can imagine and every single print is exactly identical.


David Kachel

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[Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by Roy

The curves are what determine what ink gets on the paper.   So if you made
a bunch of prints with the same curve they are all going to be the same.

Roy

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> >>> If you want a warm print then you have to use a curve designed for that.
> 
> Thanks for responding.
> In the folder /Library/Printers/QTR/quadtone/Quad3800/ is the file
> OVI_3800_HPR.quad
> That is what I am using, or at least what I believe I am using. In the QTR
> dialog I am able to set Curve 1 to OVI_3800_HPR.
> 
> I have been assuming it is the way I am setting up to print; file type,
> color space, color handling, printer profile, but I have tried every
> variation I can imagine and every single print is exactly identical.
> 
> 
> David Kachel
> 
> ___________________
> 
> Artist-Photographer
> Fine B&W Photographs
> 
> www.davidkachel.com
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> 
> Gallery:
> www.reddoorfinephotographs.com
> director@...
> 
> PO Box  1893
> Alpine, TX 79831
> (432) 386-5787
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by David Kachel

>>> The curves are what determine what ink gets on the paper. So if you made
a bunch of prints with the same curve they are all going to be the same.

Well, that certainly makes sense. The one curve I have has entries for six
gray inks in the correct positions for the cartridges in the printer. Even
if that curve is somehow incorrect, shouldn't it at least give me some hint
of the other inks / some indication of brown tones? (This is what has been
causing me to think I am inputting incorrect settings somewhere in my
printing process.)

David Kachel

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[Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by tboleyyh

David, I hate to go back to square one and possibly offend with entry level suggestions, but it's not clear at all how you are printing in the QTR dialog options. OK so your curve is installed... are you selecting it, and it alone in the curves options? Are all the other settings, dpi, gamma, etc, precisely set as the curve designer/provider specifies? Turn off calibration option? SO many things to turn things sideways...
Tyler

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> >>> The curves are what determine what ink gets on the paper. So if you made
> a bunch of prints with the same curve they are all going to be the same.
> 
> Well, that certainly makes sense. The one curve I have has entries for six
> gray inks in the correct positions for the cartridges in the printer. Even
> if that curve is somehow incorrect, shouldn't it at least give me some hint
> of the other inks / some indication of brown tones? (This is what has been
> causing me to think I am inputting incorrect settings somewhere in my
> printing process.)
> 
> David Kachel
> 
> ___________________
> 
> Artist-Photographer
> Fine B&W Photographs
> 
> www.davidkachel.com
> david@...
> 
> Gallery:
> www.reddoorfinephotographs.com
> director@...
> 
> PO Box  1893
> Alpine, TX 79831
> (432) 386-5787
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by David Kachel

>>> David, I hate to go back to square one and possibly offend with entry level
suggestions, but it's not clear at all how you are printing in the QTR dialog
options. OK so your curve is installed... are you selecting it, and it alone in
the curves options? Are all the other settings, dpi, gamma, etc, precisely set
as the curve designer/provider specifies? Turn off calibration option? SO many
things to turn things sideways...
Tyler


Yes, I believe I am doing all of that correctly.
If you are using the same configuration I am, Mac, hexane, 3800, can you
please send me all of your paper curves for that machine?


David Kachel

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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by David Kachel

>>> If you are using the same configuration I am, Mac, hexane, Š


Sorry. Microsoft keeps insisting I should be typing hexane instead of
hextone.


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Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by Myron Gochnauer

> In the folder /Library/Printers/QTR/quadtone/Quad3800/ is the file
> OVI_3800_HPR.quad
> That is what I am using, or at least what I believe I am using. In the QTR
> dialog I am able to set Curve 1 to OVI_3800_HPR.
> 
> I have been assuming it is the way I am setting up to print; file type,
> color space, color handling, printer profile, but I have tried every
> variation I can imagine and every single print is exactly identical.

I do not have the OVI ink system yet, although I am thinking about buying it.

If I were in David's position, I would try printing with a completely inappropriate printer profile (one for different inks altogether).  If the results are "exactly identical", then profiles are not be used properly by the setup.

Myron



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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Mac, OVI hextone, 3800, print help please

2011-06-08 by David Kachel

>>> If I were in David's position, I would try printing with a completely
inappropriate printer profile (one for different inks altogether). If the
results are "exactly identical", then profiles are not be used properly by the
setup.

How strange that you should suggest that. While waiting to receive new
profiles/curves I had just finished trying that very thing within seconds of
your post arriving in my inbox.

The result was very different. Everything seems to be pointing in the
direction of the one curve I have and am using somehow being out of whack.
It has been suggested that CS5 sometimes doesn't play nicely with QTR in
this regard.


David Kachel

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