Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

I have Logic 8.0.2 which is crashing on start up (it should open on  
startup), sometimes with the error -1712.  Tonight I reinstalled Logic  
(just the application) but to no effect. If it were a PC, I would  
think that a firewall was prevent things from starting up because  
sometimes Appleworks doesn't open either.  After I try opening up  
Logic, the icon in the dock shows a little white dot next to it,  
indicating that it is open, but of course, it's not.  Restarting the  
Mac doesn't do anything, either.

I have a Mac Mini (leopard), a Firestudio audio interface and an  
external hard drive of 500G, of which I have used all but about 85G.

Any ideas?



Tim McLane
www.timmclanemusic.com

Try restarting the FireStudio, or starting up Logic with it off to eliminate that as the 
problem.  I've had similar issues occasionally and it's always turned out to be the my 
FireStudio.  I'm using the beta drivers and it seems to have an issue when the computer 
goes to sleep and getting the latency/buffer-size settings correct.  At lest when I get it 
working it works wonderful!  I used it to record nearly 13 hours of continuous audio this 
weekend at 96k and I didn't have any issues at all.

Kurt
www.potm.org

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, Tim McLane <timmclane@...> wrote:

>
> I have Logic 8.0.2 which is crashing on start up (it should open on  
> startup), sometimes with the error -1712.  Tonight I reinstalled Logic  
> (just the application) but to no effect. If it were a PC, I would  
> think that a firewall was prevent things from starting up because  
> sometimes Appleworks doesn't open either.  After I try opening up  
> Logic, the icon in the dock shows a little white dot next to it,  
> indicating that it is open, but of course, it's not.  Restarting the  
> Mac doesn't do anything, either.
> 
> I have a Mac Mini (leopard), a Firestudio audio interface and an  
> external hard drive of 500G, of which I have used all but about 85G.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> 
> 
> Tim McLane
> www.timmclanemusic.com
>

simplistic, but did you repair permisions and do the "sudo periodic daily" 
etc on the terminal? You can also try restarting holding the shift key down and 
see if Logic will start without any drivers. Then restart.


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When I held the shift key down, it started right up--of course,  
without the drivers.  But even after repairing permissions, when I  
restarted it, it doesn't come up and won't start.

Now, here, I feel a little stupid:  what is  the "sudo periodic daily"  
etc on the terminal?" that you referred to?


On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:00 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> simplistic, but did you repair permisions and do the "sudo periodic  
> daily"
> etc on the terminal? You can also try restarting holding the shift  
> key down and
> see if Logic will start without any drivers. Then restart.
>
> **************
> Gas
> prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used  
> cars.
>
> (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

Tim McLane
www.timmclanemusic.com







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I didn't mention that other things are crashing on my computer as  
well: Apple Works and even my disc utility crashed---that's probably  
significant, I would imagine.
I did repair permissions.  I'll probably take it to Apple Care today.



On Jul 4, 2008, at 9:00 AM, GAmoore@... wrote:

> simplistic, but did you repair permisions and do the "sudo periodic  
> daily"
> etc on the terminal? You can also try restarting holding the shift  
> key down and
> see if Logic will start without any drivers. Then restart.
>
> **************
> Gas
> prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used  
> cars.
>
> (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
> 

Tim McLane
www.timmclanemusic.com







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OOPS! It looks like a serious crash on the way.

I hope you did enable time machine and you made a complete backup of  
your files.  I have been in that situation before, and the best way to  
get rid of all kinds of issues is to make a clean install of 10.5 with  
your original disc.  Then, use the migration assistant, that imports  
your time machine data.  It should do the job.

OR: you're using the firestudio alongside with an external FW drive  
and you're starting up on that drive, too.  Many FW audio interfaces  
don't like that.  I used to have the exact same problem in the past  
with 2 different FW interfaces on 4 computers (G5, PB17, PB15, Macbook  
13").  By all means, avoid daisy-chaining hard drives and audio  
intefaces, although multiple connections allow that in theory.

Open the Terminal utility, then type "sudo periodic daily" and your password. 
then "sudo periodic weekly", then eventually (10 minutes later when it 
finishes), "sudo periodic monthly". These are the routine adjustments that the Mac 
OS is supposed to make at 3 am if you leave your computer on all the time. 

It seems like you have some serious problems. The only other things I can 
think of :
- try running disk warrior and/or micromat techtool on your disks
- try removing some ram in case you have bad ram

You might need to backup everything to an external (or 2nd interior) drive 
and then wipe the disk and do a clean install.   Before you do that, you can do 
this trick which an apple "genius" told me - is create a new user as a fresh 
start and re-install Logic for that new user.


> Now, here, I feel a little stupid: what is the "sudo periodic daily"
> etc on the terminal?" that you referred to?
> 




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thanks for the tips....I just did a clean sweep of everything -- I'm  
not sure that will solve everything.  Now Safari is crashing, ical is  
crashing ---who knows?

It still doesn't make sense: when I used FW to connect to external HD,  
it was a big problem; now that I have it connected by USB, still  
things are crashing --- I just don't know where to go with this.

Any more ideas?



On Jul 4, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Bvba Iceberg Productions wrote:

> OOPS! It looks like a serious crash on the way.
>
> I hope you did enable time machine and you made a complete backup of
> your files. I have been in that situation before, and the best way to
> get rid of all kinds of issues is to make a clean install of 10.5 with
> your original disc. Then, use the migration assistant, that imports
> your time machine data. It should do the job.
>
> OR: you're using the firestudio alongside with an external FW drive
> and you're starting up on that drive, too. Many FW audio interfaces
> don't like that. I used to have the exact same problem in the past
> with 2 different FW interfaces on 4 computers (G5, PB17, PB15, Macbook
> 13"). By all means, avoid daisy-chaining hard drives and audio
> intefaces, although multiple connections allow that in theory.
>
>
> 



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