Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Is Epson blocking further use of QTR ?
2016-04-28 by Mark Savoia
Silly question, anyway to just piggyback your ink carts through Epson’s ink carts? So it thinks (and knows) its a OEM cart but the ink is bypassed through it
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Is Epson blocking further use of QTR ?
2016-04-28 by kenlee333@...
If I follow correctly, there are 2 issues: 1) Cartridges which can be loaded with non-OEM inks and 2) driver software compatibility. For 1) is it a matter of
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Is Epson blocking further use of QTR ?
2016-04-28 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
re Piezo and refill carts. There will hopefully be some good news on the P800 model soon but I can’t say anything for a while. If we can get the P800, we can
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Is Epson blocking further use of QTR ?
2016-04-28 by Roy Harrington
Ken, The reports so far are that the P[6789]000 printers work fine with the older print drivers. Someone used a P9000 with the 9900 with success. Using Piezo
Is Epson blocking further use of QTR ?
2016-04-28 by kenlee333@...
Is it true that Epson has made changes to their latest printers to thwart the use of QTR and other non-OEM inks/drivers ? See
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] i1 Pro 2 and color swatch measurements (for toning)
2016-04-26 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
I really couldn’t say because I’ve always built my own toner curves mathematically using beziers totally outside of the QTR curve creator. best, W ... I
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] i1 Pro 2 and color swatch measurements (for toning)
2016-04-26 by mattbaily@...
Thanks Walker, I ll check ColorPort out. Next question: On a side note. How does one create a toner_curve for each individual tone? Do I load the ink
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] i1 Pro 2 and color swatch measurements (for toning)
2016-04-26 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
Yes. Most likely the issue is the bars. You can build custom charts in i1Profiler using the “classic” i1Pro1 chart style but built for i1Pro2. You can also
Re: i1 Pro 2 and color swatch measurements (for toning)
2016-04-26 by mattbaily@...
Gonna answer my own question. The i1pro 2 does not do sweeping profiling of really pale color inks accurately. It gives wrong values. You need to do spot
i1 Pro 2 and color swatch measurements (for toning)
2016-04-26 by mattbaily@...
Is there any special trick to using the I1 pro 2 and profiler software for measuring the C, LC, M and LM step charts that is different to black inks? When I
Re: just a few final questions on the StepWedge Tool
2016-04-23 by paulmwhiting@...
Roy, This morning my alignments look ok to me... I posted a screen shot in our group s Photos section. See what you think. I don t know what I did differently
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Red River Aurora Art Natural salvage operation
2016-04-23 by Larry
Oops, I meant I have yet... ... Oops, I meant I have yet... On Apr 22, 2016, at 17:07, Larry wrote: I have get to find an image
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Red River Aurora Art Natural salvage operation
2016-04-23 by Larry
I have get to find an image of mine that looks good on Aurora Art Natural. Of course, I got this paper before I knew what dmax is. Larry ... I have get to
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Red River Aurora Art Natural salvage operation
2016-04-22 by Paul Roark
Red River Aurora Natural is a very good and high per/$ value paper for many types of images. Paul www.PaulRoark.com On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:40 AM,
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Red River Aurora Art Natural salvage operation
2016-04-22 by rdeloe1@...
Thanks Paul. Sound advice. Using the ICC helps a bit, but I don t like the idea of having to make drastic adjustments to the image just for one paper. In the
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: just a few final questions on the StepWedge Tool
2016-04-22 by Roy Harrington
Not sure what to tell you about (3). Depends on what s wrong. You ve got to look at the alignment and figure out why they don t match. Then you can do
Re: just a few final questions on the StepWedge Tool
2016-04-22 by paulmwhiting@...
Roy, Thanks, that must mean that even though to the naked eye those patches are various shades of grey, they do indeed include a bit of color? That surprises
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] just a few final questions on the StepWedge Tool
2016-04-21 by Roy Harrington
A and B are the color parts of LAB. A is magenta/green and B is yellow/blue. If you scan in RGB you ll pick up the color of the patches but if you scan in
just a few final questions on the StepWedge Tool
2016-04-21 by paulmwhiting@...
Was happy to find out that this tool works on Photoshop Elements (I m on version 9), but a few questions remain: 1) page 2: What does B on the greyscale stand
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-21 by artodd138@...
Thanks everyone for your help, it is much appreciated. I feel like I have a better understanding of what I m after and the tools at my disposal to get there.
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Red River Aurora Art Natural salvage operation
2016-04-21 by Paul Roark
I generally don t use that paper due to the low dmax. Just to check out some alternatives, however, you might see how the ICC in my Profiles Zip file does.
Red River Aurora Art Natural salvage operation
2016-04-21 by rdeloe1@...
I need some advice on a strategy for making the best of Red River Aurora Art Natural. It’s one of the very few brands that comes in a 17” x 25” size,
QTR support for P9000
2016-04-20 by ognita@...
Hi guys, I searched the forum boards for P9000 but only produced 1 thread that discuss the P800/700/600. I have a P9000 and is trying to make custom curves.
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-20 by Paul Roark
See The International Color Commission Wiki page -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Commission_on_Illumination . Paul www.PaulRoark.com On Wed,
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-20 by Roy Harrington
LAB Luminosity is designed with human visual perception as goal. So straight-line L values gives that. That s what linearization does in QTR driver tools. You
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-20 by artodd138@...
I ll jump back in for a second to clarify my initial question. Brain hit upon my question when he said, Let s suppose we are in a room with no monitor, so no
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-20 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
This is a fascinating discussion. Good question Brian. I feel like it would touch off an ICC standard if the grayscale world were larger. My (experiential
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-20 by brian_downunda@...
Jumping back into the weeds of monitor-to-print matching for a moment (which was not the direct topic of artodd138 s last question as I read it), and at the
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-20 by brian_downunda@...
@Roy - Back in post #23, artodd138 asked does anyone have a graph of L* values that would appear linear to a standard observer . This question does not
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by brian_downunda@...
You can do this in Windows, but with less convenience. You can t convert on-the-fly. You have to convert to the ICC in PS, and save that as a copy, and print
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by Roy Harrington
It s been a long thread and I haven t had time to get into it. I think it was Brian who kept a link to an old post of mine - thanks. Here it is:
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
Grayscale ICC printing means you select a Create-ICC built ICC profile in PrintTool (OS X only), select perceptual mode, hit print, select your curve, and
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by awidener@...
The one problem with piezography/qtr on windows is that it does not yet allow grayscale ICC while printing, something that our new PiezoDN system will be
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
I have much less experience in building packages for Windows but at the vary least I will be able to build an installer that can install a folder that has all
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by dtrout@...
Walker, I m reading this thread intently, as I may decide to wander into the world of Piezography and QTR for my B&W work. (What appears to now be a
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
Back to the thread at hand!!! (This is the important part, it’s the QTR forum after all.) Like I said a few posts back, perceptual linearity is a misnomer so
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-19 by brian_downunda@...
You re kidding me, right? Clearly you ve settled into IJM pretty well, because RTM is the standard IJM response. I ve read and reread the ( new ) manual and
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Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-18 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
I suggest you download and read The New Piezography Manual. It’s the first place to look for Piezography workflow related stuff, and the documentation on
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-18 by brian_downunda@...
Having read this forum on and off for much of the time that it s been around, it s my recollection that there s more of the science of visual perception in the
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Quadtone Rip print setting.
2016-04-16 by Keith Schreiber
Are you using PrintTool? Keith Schreiber jkschreiber.com
Re: [QuadtoneRIP] Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-16 by forums@walkerblackwell.com
Perceptual Linearity is a bit of a misnomer. What the approach of darkening the shadows actually does is help to match the print contrast to the monitor
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-16 by brian_downunda@...
I ve hesitated to respond to this, because this is an issue that I ve struggled with over the years, and I m not sure whether my view is shared around here.
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-15 by artodd138@...
***and when I say perceptively I mean perceptually....late nights...
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-15 by andrey@...
I think you want the print to be linear so that whatever tonal relationships you set up in your photo will be preserved when it gets printed. The place to do
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-15 by artodd138@...
Thanks for the link, I had forgotten that you mentioned that in the beginning of this thread as well. As far as editing the .quad files directly, I agree that
Re: Trouble with Custom QTR Curves
2016-04-14 by brian_downunda@...
I m not Richard, although I agree with what he said, other than not being familiar with the systems he has developed. Details on using the so-called
Trouble with profil QTR (windows 7)
2016-04-14 by pierre.zeler@...
Hello experts, I work with QT under Windows 7 and a 1500W I noticed when I entered the values for the 6-ink, the LM line appears 2 times. After sauveagrde and
Quadtone Rip print setting.
2016-04-14 by mattbaily@...
Hi all, Being early days in my adventures with Quadtone rip, I have plenty of questions. When printing from Photoshop CC (Mac OSX) do I set the following to