Harry,
Yes, I did say that and that is what happened...once.
I ordered an R1800 two weeks ago and it came defective. So epson sent me a new 1800 and told me to keep the inks. Those were the inks I switched in and out. The MIS inks stopped the printing, and after switching out anything that could be switched, and switching back again, it finally worked with the OEM inks....It being the QTR and the Epson Driver. After I found it working again, with OEM inks, I put back in the MIS inks, and the printer stopped printing. This was after finaly getting a nozzle check to work, red ink light to go out. I cleaned all chips, used a small vacuum to clean out the printer etc. Possibly somehting chpped off a chip, I do not know. It appears all is pointing to some , or one, defective MIS chip thugh, as the printer is working now with OEM inks. . I have an email out to MIS and will see what happens.
Thanks also for the latin lesson. It has been a long time.
thanks for the input and help
Frank
hflockwood <hflockwood@...> wrote:
Frank,
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you said that after the crash with MIS inks you put the
OEM carts back in and still it didn't print.
As for the Latin: the expression comes from of a recognized logical fallacy. One may falsly
conclude that, because one event follows another, the first caused the second. Post hoc
ergo propter hoc = after that therefore because of that.
In my case, the printer crashed after replacing exhausted OEM carts with new OEM carts.
So are the new carts defective, or did the action of replacing carts trigger an event?
Apparently the latter.
Harry
--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, Frank Jay <frankjay02@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks to everyone who helped...great effort to a perfect stranger.
> it's not the printer Harry it's the MIS inks. I got it to print with OEM inks with QTR and
the Printer driver after trying every hint, tip, advice etc that was given here last night and
using my own troubleshooting exp. which was basically what was suggested by all. I did
this till about 1230 AM..that was 5 hours with this problem which included waiting for
answers and changing out all the OEM inks for a new set of OEM's, then changing back.
Shutting computer on and off, shutting printer on and off, changing out USB cables, trying
firewire etc etc ad nauseum. The weak link was the MIS inks. It was the only variable that
caused failure.
> And, btw , I had 2 years of latin in 1960 and have no clue as to what your latin idiom
meant. Maybe something like, do'nt base today on what happened yesterday, ...but who
knows. I tend to speak English only. LOL>
> thanks to everyone who helped for the help. I am waiting for a response from MIS
about this.
>
> hflockwood <hflockwood@...> wrote:
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "frankjay02" <frankjay02@> wrote:
> >
> > I printed five test prints which included three photos, the 100 step
> > graduated black and white sheet on a lustre and a matte paper.
> > I ate dinner. I came back, took out the three cars, inserted the MIS
> > carts, and the printer stopped printing. The night before I printed
> > about ten color and black and white photos...all fine.
> >
> > I checked USB,switche out USB, tried nozzle test, didn't work. Re
> > inserted OEM carts, nothing, went to control panel , nothing started
> > printing. went to trouble shoot on epson...direct me to call tech
> > support. Shut printer down a few times. Took out ALL OEM's put them
> > back. No printing...put back in MIS, no printing...took out MIS, not
> > printing. Tried to print from Ps..nothing....in the middle of all
> > this the Ink light finally went off.
> >
> > Logic would have it the MIS carts did something because
> > 1. the printer printed about 20 prints in two nights
> > 2. printing stopped as soon as MIS carts went in and never restarted.
> > thanks again
> > Frank in NJ
> >
> >
> Yor logic appears to be good, but it just might be faulty. Here is my experience with a
> new R2400.
>
> While going through a second set of OEM carts, I had to replace two of the inks, a
> nominally routine occurrence. I replaced the two, with Epson carts, and got the "Fatal
> Error" as evidenced by a pair of blinking lights. The manual says that, under these
> circumstances, something may be blocking the print head. If not, then the printer has to
> be repaired.
>
> I called Epson, told them of the problem and went through the symptoms while on the
> phone with a tech. She confirmed that the printer had to be repaired. No further
> questions asked.
>
> She said that a new printer would be sent to me that same day and that I should use the
> shipping materials to return the malfunctioning printer, prepaid FedEx. The new
> (refurb'd?) printer arrived two days later. End of story. Well, not quite. The dead printer
> had to be returned promptly, or I would be charged for it.
>
> Moral of the story: be careful of logic based on "post hoc, ergo propter hoc." Epson will
> probably replace the printer without much hassle.
>
> Harry
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