Re: Quad2
2001-06-12 by C. Whitten
Robert, The panel looks good. Just don't understand the double Quad Osc. What was the price? CW
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Re: Quad
2001-06-12 by C. Whitten
> You can substitute a VCFQX for one of the quad osc's. Do you need (or is there an advantage to having) 2 Quadrature Oscillators. Also, what is the minimum requirement of 'quad' modules to make a useful quad panel (I notice Robert has two quad channels listed). Thanks for any ad
Quad2
2001-06-12 by robertkleckner@earthlink.net
From: Junger Joerg >> the active processor is a control voltage crossfader with two inputs and one output. while this is cool because of the voltage controlability it offers much less cv mixing capability than the dual processor >> Exactly. This was my understanding...... John/CW
AW: [SergeModular] Quad
2001-06-12 by Junger Joerg
the active processor is a control voltage crossfader with two inputs and one output. while this is cool because of the voltage controlability it offers much less cv mixing capability than the dual processor (which i unfortunately do not have. my system is really lacking when it c
Re: Quad
2001-06-12 by C. Whitten
Robert, A few questions. What is a DRG? By 'Quad Channel' do you mean 'Quad Panner'? I'm not sure which of the 'Quad' modules would benefit from being doubled up. And on that note, why the two Quad Osc? Even without the DRG (?) your module list came to 18". I'd be very interested
Re: Quad
2001-06-12 by John Papiewski
You can substitute a VCFQX for one of the quad osc's... You can generate sine-cosine waves from the VCF just like the quad osc, but you won't have the 'hold' feature. What are you using the ACPR's for? And what is the DRG? Dual random voltage generator? A WAD would be nice on tha
Quad
2001-06-12 by rk
Here the notes I have for putting together a good "spacialization" panel. Does anyone have any other recommendations/ideas? from L to R: DRG QUAD OSC QUAD OSC ACTIVE PROCESS ACTIVE PROCESS DTG QUAD CHANNEL QUAD CHANNEL QUAD OUTPUT MIXER (Looks like another expensive one! This is
Re: Rex Contact
2001-06-11 by Bob Roesler
Matt et. al., I had this idea a while back of using an audio synth to generate voltages to drive an x-y laser projector and to make stereo time exposures (ala viewmaster slides) of the resulting patterns being projected out into the environment (whatever that is). I started out w
Re: Rex Contact
2001-06-11 by Matt Wilson
Bob Roesler wrote: Greetings, I'm brand new here, and panel #1 from the new heartland office was mine. I picked it up Saturday from Kevin Fortune in El Cerrito. The panel consists of 4 Quadrature Osc's, 2 Scaling Proc's, and 4 adaptors. I placed the order in early January, so the
Re: Rex Contact
2001-06-11 by Bob Roesler
Greetings, I'm brand new here, and panel #1 from the new heartland office was mine. I picked it up Saturday from Kevin Fortune in El Cerrito. The panel consists of 4 Quadrature Osc's, 2 Scaling Proc's, and 4 adaptors. I placed the order in early January, so the turnaround was a b
Sesame Street/Serge Connection
2001-06-11 by rk
Ok.....I have one for thee list. . . . One of my most vivid memories as a child was watching Sesame Street on the tv... Every once in a while some hotti-Pocahontas-hippy-babe would come out and sing some protest songs and play guitar..... (hotti hippy-chix caught my interest even
Re: Quad panel.
2001-06-11 by C. Whitten
> We all know that the Serge QUAD PANEL is just a cheap rip-off of 'another > California manufacturers' Quad configuration.. Down boy!!! > On paper, the Serge Quad panel that STS puts together is *defiantly* one of > the most interesting! I have yet to see (hear?) one. . . (but i
Quad panel.
2001-06-11 by rk
CW Says: >> I'm trying to decide whether to order another panel. Don't ask me why.....I've always wanted a quad panel. Maybe I'm hoping that 5:1 surround (probably on DVD) will become a standard music format over the next five years. >> We all know that the Serge QUAD PANEL is ju
Modular_Planner
2001-06-11 by C. Whitten
Dear All, Even though I saw the announcement a couple of weeks ago it hadn't really occurred to me to check out modular-planner.com until 'opart' suggested it yesterday. What a fabulous resource!! Compliments to whoever put it together and respect to JohnP. and Rex for making the
Re: [Fwd: Modcan Responds]
2001-06-11 by C. Whitten
Matt, Yes it's time to move on if only for those list members who have obviously found this sometimes personalised slanging match tiresome. How unfortunate that you couldn't move on without making a couple of final less than charitable remarks. > it turns > out that folks who own
AW: [SergeModular] [Fwd: Modcan Responds]
2001-06-11 by Junger Joerg
bruce duncan's reply is interesting and at least for the boolean logic (which is one of the modules that was a potential design rip off) it seems clear that his circuit is not a copy. if i remeber correctly, the serge boolean logic module in my sequencer panel does use standard c
[Fwd: Modcan Responds]
2001-06-11 by matt wilson
Attachments : this was sent to me personally by bruce duncan of modcan. he states that it was okay to post it to the list if i thought it was appropriate, which i think it is. please note that mr. duncan does not address (what i felt to be) the prime topic of our sometimes rancor
Re: Take the High Road
2001-06-11 by matt wilson
particlemen@... wrote: I was hoping that this little discussion group would be a cut above the others that I have monitored and posted to. You know, focus on cool modular techniques, etc. The current thread about who is copying which module design from whom is pretty laughable. T
Take the High Road
2001-06-11 by particlemen@aol.com
I was hoping that this little discussion group would be a cut above the others that I have monitored and posted to. You know, focus on cool modular techniques, etc. The current thread about who is copying which module design from whom is pretty laughable. This is the second "low
Re: ASR and WAD Examples??
2001-06-10 by Barry Michael
I have both and will try to send a couple of things in near future to the download section. Am currently working on some patch illustrations for the group, as well as some photos of my Serge system for Group members to look at - That will show you more of my particular configurat
Serge Modular Files area
2001-06-10 by Microtonal
We've been getting some great files on the Serge Modular Yahoo files site. Since the space is almost full, I've decided to delete the Stearns and Serge and GPS-10S files that I had uploaded. Anyone who wants those files just email me directly. I have left the Serge catalog PDF fi
ASR and WAD Examples??
2001-06-10 by ART Records
Hi All Anyone have the Wilson Analog Delay or some of the Analog Shift Register modules?? I'd love to hear some examples of both... thx Kirk
Re: Modular_law@yahoogroups.com
2001-06-10 by ART Records
Hiya Rob > I am the operator of a 37+ module Modcan System. (we also have serge stuff) > The _sonic_ comparison btw Modcan/Serge is a *joke*, I would like to invite > YOU and anyone who wishes access to my studio to *listen* to how wonderful > (and diffrent) the Modcan system sou
'An Investigation of the Laws of Thought'
2001-06-10 by r
on 6/10/01 9:19 AM, Serge_Law@yahoogroups.com sayz: > what i'm interested in is whether > anyone can confirm any allegations that > modcan is using serge *circuit* designs Just a quick look into my mum's library....... When you are doing the legal draft 4 thee 'courts' make sure
Modular_law@yahoogroups.com
2001-06-10 by r
Serge_Counselor@yahoogroups.com wrote: > i maintain there is, and that modcan flat out copied serge). at > least one listmember who has access to modcan > gear won't "get involved" and thats fine; if anyone else is interested > in this issue and who has access to > modcan gear...
Re: what the hell is this??
2001-06-10 by matt wilson
ART Records wrote: > I thought this was going to be the place to swap patches a break from the bitchin' - I've uploaded 2 files called Weird Disco and Weird Disco Sweep... heres to ya kirk for getting ALL of us on track....keep the trax coming, okay!! forget about this who's copy
Re: theft of schems/module design
2001-06-10 by skuehnl@yahoo.de
--- In SergeModular@y..., wrote: > >I used to lurk on the Doepfer billboard where you are > as active as knowledgeable, > > if you think he's stupid, just say it - why be vague > or clever or whatever. nobody gets anything out of a > slinging contest - why don't you guys do in pr
Re: theft of schems/module design
2001-06-09 by =?iso-8859-1?q?=20?= <r_a_quirk@...>
>I used to lurk on the Doepfer billboard where you are as active as knowledgeable, if you think he's stupid, just say it - why be vague or clever or whatever. nobody gets anything out of a slinging contest - why don't you guys do in private! ______________________________________
Re: theft of schems/module design
2001-06-09 by skuehnl@yahoo.de
Hi Mark, --- In SergeModular@y..., Mark Deal wrote: > > Sebastian Kuehnl did: > > > >> >Doepfer customers usually don't know about backgrounds and just awe > >> >at modules like the multiladder (although it isn't so special, each > >> >of the Wiard filter modules can do that), so
Re: what the hell is this??
2001-06-09 by ART Records
> I thought this was going to be the place to swap patches a break from the bitchin' - I've uploaded 2 files called Weird Disco and Weird Disco Sweep... Weird Disco patch is as follows: NTO (Freq at 10 o'clock) SYNCED to PCO (Freq at 12 o'clock - Hi Range) SINE WAVE OUT of PCO in
New file uploaded to SergeModular
2001-06-09 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SergeModular group. File : /Weird Disco Sweep.wav Uploaded by : opart@... Description : You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModula
New file uploaded to SergeModular
2001-06-09 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Hello, This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the SergeModular group. File : /Weird Disco.wav Uploaded by : opart@... Description : You can access this file at the URL http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SergeModular/file
Re: theft of schems/module design
2001-06-09 by Mark Deal
Sebastian Kuehnl did: >Doepfer customers usually don't know about backgrounds and just awe >at modules like the multiladder (although it isn't so special, each >of the Wiard filter modules can do that), so I guess I find heated >SMOG discussions preferable What? Are you saying th
Re: what the hell is this??
2001-06-09 by C. Whitten
> I thought this was going to be the place to swap patches, offer suggestions > for problems, share stories, offer a little theory for those of us not so > technically inclined, share system layouts and just generaly have a good > Serge family gathering. I got to agree wholeheart
freq shifter & delay
2001-06-09 by =?iso-8859-1?q?=20?= <r_a_quirk@...>
Hi, has anyone here tried the serge freq shifter with the moogerfooger delay? just wondering how it sounded. I've got the moogerfooger (nice device, but a bit sensitive to signal levels - distorts but not in the nice way like my Boss dm-100), and am still trying to decide on what
what the hell is this??
2001-06-09 by DarkStr717@aol.com
For the last 5 days I've seen nothing but whining and bitching and implied defamation and just the sort of anal rubbish that drove me off the AH list and that i thought would not appear here. Wrong again!! rats!! I thought this was going to be the place to swap patches, offer sug
Re: theft of schems/module design
2001-06-09 by skuehnl@yahoo.de
Chris Huggett, ex-EDP, supposedly was flattered when hearing about Doepfer considering the Wasp clone. Buchla laughed when offered provisions for the 292-clone Borg filter by Grant Richter. (Note that Hugget was not asked by Doepfer himself, though.) These modules are old, as is
Re: Modcan (from an attorney)
2001-06-09 by matt wilson
"C. Whitten" wrote: My opinion and it is only my opinion!.....is that I would be surprised if ModCan has stolen any substantial business from STS. In addition the market for both systems has got to be so small, what in cash terms would be achieved if Rex sued? It would probably c
Re: theft of schems/module design
2001-06-09 by C. Whitten
> Tony > definitely wasn't happy about it but also decided not > to take legal action with Doepfer. I was quite surprised to see Doepfer actually print Wasp Filter on the face plate of their A-124 module. At least ModCan don't do that. (Didn't stop me from buying one however) CW
theft of schems/module design
2001-06-09 by =?iso-8859-1?q?=20?= <r_a_quirk@...>
I don't who else here is also on the synth-DIY list, but just for your info there was a report recently about Doepfer copying one of Tony Oakley's VCF designs. From the emails that went back & forth, Tony definitely wasn't happy about it but also decided not to take legal action
Re: Modcan .no excuses surely ?
2001-06-09 by =?iso-8859-1?q?=20?= <r_a_quirk@...>
hi, I visited bruce in late 99. he demonstrated his modules, etc. he also had a modular for a client that had just been finished. I noticed a module in it that wasn't from his website. I said isn't that a serge module, the variable slope one - he said it was a one-off at the clie
Re: Modcan .no excuses surely ?
2001-06-09 by C. Whitten
>On the OTHER hand, when Serge copied Buchla's stuff, he usually added his own >creative twists/improvements... or at the very least moved the knobs around. A very valid point. > if he's on his own, Mr Duncan has managed to develop a fairly nice > module family ... only so many h
Re: Modcan .no excuses surely ?
2001-06-09 by Sebastian Kuehnl
Thanks John; your logic is a step ahead of mine : Yes, Duncan has a factory but it was his own DIY project initially (also see picture on synthmuseum.com). ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Papiewski" johnp@... > To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, June 09,
Re: Modcan .no excuses surely ?
2001-06-09 by John Papiewski
There's an underlying ambivalence to this discussion: On the ONE hand, yes, it's very common to copy/clone someone else's good designs ... saves years of your own r&d.... plus, there may only be a finite set of optimal designs anyway. On the OTHER hand, when Serge copied Buchla's
Re: Modcan .millions of options -no imagination (cubed)
2001-06-09 by Sebastian Kuehnl
So it's time for that killfile. You can go on calling me all the things you want - behind my back. It is useless to discuss with you! You have never showed respect for any opinion that differs from yours. Which is what discussion is about. So I can't care to defend nor to correct
Re: Modcan .no excuses surely ?
2001-06-09 by C. Whitten
> sworry I was under the illusion this discussion was on the Serge > site , and we were discussing Modcan's cloning of Serge ? You are incredibly pedantic aren't you. We *were* discussing ModCan and the fact that multiple modules my have been 'copied'. I never mentioned or even i
Re: Modcan .millions of options -no imagination (cubed)
2001-06-09 by sonic@sonicboomuk.fsnet.co.uk
--- In SergeModular@y..., "Sebastian Kuehnl" wrote: > Hi Mr Rubbish (?), As per usual , You call me Mr. Rubbish (very witty...) , but you cant even justify your own assertations ? > > : --- > : > Add to this the 8x2 sequencer with A,B,A-B (aka Sequencer 17A) > : > this is the EXA
Re: Modcan .no excuses surely ?
2001-06-09 by sonic@sonicboomuk.fsnet.co.uk
--- In SergeModular@y..., "C. Whitten" wrote: > > m you've missed the point chris , think about it . the Serge > > modules are not as cloned as you suggest above . you're tarring Serge > > w/ the "normal" brush ? > No Peter, you misread my contribution (again). > At no point did
Re: Modcan
2001-06-09 by C. Whitten
> m you've missed the point chris , think about it . the Serge > modules are not as cloned as you suggest above . you're tarring Serge > w/ the "normal" brush ? No Peter, you misread my contribution (again). At no point did I mention Serge in my email, let alone imply there were
Re: sample request
2001-06-09 by C. Whitten
> What can I say... I love distortion. > Yeah, I think I worded my contribution badly. What I should have said is: IMO the wavemultiplier is even better when used in a synthesizer patch context. > > I am really anal when it comes to stereo imaging. Agree with that as well. The Fe