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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-24 by Paul Nagle

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 23:30:03 +0200, Tom Adam wrote: > >I solved the knob problem swapped out the bad knob. >I'll try the sysex thing later. (yes I had a midi loop) > >Thanks to Paul Nagle I even got to play a little tune!! Make me a whole >mp3 based tutorial please.....;-) Glad t

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-23 by Tom Adam

I solved the knob problem swapped out the bad knob. I'll try the sysex thing later. (yes I had a midi loop) Thanks to Paul Nagle I even got to play a little tune!! Make me a whole mp3 based tutorial please.....;-) Thanks, you made my day! Cheers, Tom

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-23 by Colin f

> When sending the sysex file I get a "Bad block!X" message on > my display... Any chance you have a midi loop ? P3 sends a sysex 'acknowledge' for each code block it receives - if this loops back through and P3 sees it, it will display bad block. If that isn't the problem, it co

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-23 by Tom Adam

When sending the sysex file I get a "Bad block!X" message on my display... Colin f wrote: > > > Could be a dodgy pot. I had a similar problem with the note pot on > > > step 11. After swapping out the errant alpha pot, all came good > > > again. > > > > it could be that, or if yo

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-22 by Colin f

> > Could be a dodgy pot. I had a similar problem with the note pot on > > step 11. After swapping out the errant alpha pot, all came good > > again. > > it could be that, or if you have an older OS (like the one that comes > burned on the CPU) that might be the problem too... I

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Dumbass of the week award goes to...

2004-10-22 by bleep

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, colinfraser_com wrote: > Me, for breaking the normal midi channel settings when adding per > bank midi channels, and not turning it off to test I hadn't. > v3.981 fixes this. hardly colin... the P3 is the answer to the vast majority of all our bloopy dreams..

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-22 by bleep

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004, Andy Wilson wrote: > > One thing I've noticed is that the display keeps jumping to step 8 > and velo goes up and down all the time. > > (If I remember this correctly, it was kind of late) Is this normal > behavior? > > Could be a dodgy pot. I had a similar pr

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-22 by Andy Wilson

Hi Tom, > One thing I've noticed is that the display keeps jumping to step 8 and velo goes up and down all the time. > (If I remember this correctly, it was kind of late) Is this normal behavior? Could be a dodgy pot. I had a similar problem with the note pot on step 11. After sw

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P3 Finished - some questions

2004-10-22 by tom.adam@pandora.be

Hi guys, Finished my P3 yesterday. I was lucky, it booted immediately. I saw the clock signal on the midi out too. It was kind of late already so I didn't really tested it but I wasn't able to trigger any synths though. Need to read the manual. One thing I've noticed is that the

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Dumbass of the week award goes to...

2004-10-22 by colinfraser_com

Me, for breaking the normal midi channel settings when adding per bank midi channels, and not turning it off to test I hadn't. v3.981 fixes this. Cheers, Colin f

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.98

2004-10-21 by Colin f

> if i get a bad block message for upgrading firmware > via mac osx sysx, what am i doing wrong? Most common cause is a midi loop - if P3 gets its acknowledge message back from the device sending it the dump, it will show 'bad block'. Cheers, Colin f

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] P3 v3.98

2004-10-21 by MAG

thanks for your good work colin! wanna try this feature out this weekend, if i get a bad block message for upgrading firmware via mac osx sysx, what am i doing wrong? thx mag --- colinfraser_com wrote: > > > Folks, > > v3.98 (in files now) adds per bank midi channels. > This is n

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P3 Keys

2004-10-21 by colinfraser_com

Folks, I've got a sample set of the key caps for the production P3 coming next week - exciting stuff ;-) These will be parchment white coloured keys, with engraved and infilled lettering in black. Font is 'Eurostile' - you can see a pdf of what they will look like here: http://ww

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-21 by Paul Nagle

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:53:22 -0700 (PDT), MAG wrote: > >thanks paul, i gonna try this out over the weekend! Good for banging in notes too! >just checked out your downloads, nice stuff, Thanks man >check out shpongle.... you maybe like it! I *love* Shpongle! Paul --- Paul Nagle -

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-21 by MAG

thanks paul, i gonna try this out over the weekend! just checked out your downloads, nice stuff, check out shpongle.... you maybe like it! cheers mag www.magdesign.ch --- Paul Nagle wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:09:20 -0700 (PDT), MAG > > wrote: > > > > >in real? > >i didnt k

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P3 v3.98

2004-10-21 by colinfraser_com

Folks, v3.98 (in files now) adds per bank midi channels. This is not active by default - there is a user config option, 'Mchans per bank', that you will need to turn on. Once that is done, you need to reset the midi channels for all banks. This build also resolves a long standing

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-21 by Paul Nagle

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 02:09:20 -0700 (PDT), MAG wrote: > >in real? >i didnt know mate! > >have to try this out, sculpt, is it in the manual? Briefly - on page 29. Another tutorial needed, I think.... 8) Paul --- Paul Nagle - SoftRoom Music - www.softroom.co.uk Bogus Focus Records -

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-21 by MAG

in real? i didnt know mate! have to try this out, sculpt, is it in the manual? grz mag www.magesign.ch > Did you know, you can already use the Sculpt > function to do this? You > use the P3's data entry knob as opposed to recording > incoming > controllers but it works pretty wel

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-21 by Paul Nagle

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:05:23 -0700 (PDT), MAG wrote: >usualy i'm using my (sofware) sequencer for playing >cutoffs, resonanzes, releases and stuff. >its ok when the p3 cant do it, >but on the other way it would be cool to edit a cutoff >in a playing loop. with other words if the

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-21 by MAG

hei usualy i'm using my (sofware) sequencer for playing cutoffs, resonanzes, releases and stuff. its ok when the p3 cant do it, but on the other way it would be cool to edit a cutoff in a playing loop. with other words if the p3 could record the control data i'm doing live with a

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-20 by Robert van der Kamp

I think it's very odd that realtime CC control of external gear is 'not really a sequencer job' and thus should be handled by a drehbank or similar gear. Many if not all of the hardware MIDI sequencers I know support sending of CCs in some way (faders, or knobs), and all software

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Re: Quick question

2004-10-20 by ch.³l

> I'm totally happy with Colin's priorities, but I simply > don't understand why the P3 can't have realtime midi > controllers, or why it is not a main task. I don't see how > this is different from all the other things it already > does! > > - Robert that's the difference betwee

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-20 by Gert van Santen

cikira@cikira.com wrote: >> we may be few, so let us be loud! :) someone said it best before... >> the P3 >> is a sequencer, not a midi controller, so sequencer-specific >> functions (like per bank midi channels) should be a priority. >> besides, who here does not have either a m

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-20 by cikira@cikira.com

>we may be few, so let us be loud! :) someone said it best before... the >P3 >is a sequencer, not a midi controller, so sequencer-specific functions >(like per bank midi channels) should be a priority. besides, who here >does not have either a midi controller with assignable CCs

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Re: Quick question

2004-10-20 by em_dkj

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "colinfraser_com" wrote: > > Folks, > > I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi controller > functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode. > I've got a test build running which transmits a volume cc message on > each track

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Quick question

2004-10-20 by Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts)

Colin, > I'll add per bank midi channels first, and see how much of a hit on > code size it is. Wohoo! > Once that's done, I'll revisit the CC transmission, possibly with > more of a focus on allowing the knobs to dynamically alter current > pattern settings - that seems like a n

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Hans Greuber

Hi; buddy " C3p0 " said; for instance, I would like to be able to use the knobs to transpose a track >on-the-fly. or change the length of the current pattern. or alter it's >global velocity (a la notron). or gate time (ditto). or scale the >randomness of the auxes.... or shift a

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Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by colinfraser_com

Well, opinions seem to be divided, so I guess there's little point asking for them ;-) The lack of a pass-thru mode on the knobs is a good point, it could make the knob box functionality a little clunky. On the plus side, I remembered tonight that the P3 CPU has 2k of EEPROM up i

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Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by colinfraser_com

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, ferrograph@a... wrote: > for instance, I would like to be able to use the knobs to transpose a track > on-the-fly. or change the length of the current pattern. or alter it's global > velocity (a la notron). or gate time (ditto). or scale

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Boele Gerkes

I also would vote for the more sequencer specific features above midi cc's. Boele Op 19-okt-04 om 11:14 heeft colinfraser_com het volgende geschreven: > > > Folks, > > I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi controller > functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by jez creek

I haven't even got a P3 yet but I agree with Duncan, let the sequencer sequence and buy a nice controller to do all that other stuff. Jez http://www.modulator-esp.co.uk http://www.ambientlive.com/awakenings -----Original Message----- From: ferrograph@aol.com [mailto:ferrograph@ao

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Paul Nagle

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:30:47 EDT, ferrograph@aol.com wrote: >but frankly, for all that I can see the usefulness of having RT midi >controllers available on the p3, as soon as you can adjust one or two things per >track, you'll want to do more. Plus if you go into pattern or playl

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by ferrograph@aol.com

> hmm... haven't really used the banks much yet.... don't know what I'd be losing. but frankly, for all that I can see the usefulness of having RT midi controllers available on the p3, as soon as you can adjust one or two things per track, you'll want to do more. buy a drehbank,

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by bleep

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts) wrote: > > space, and may prevent 'per bank midi channels' being possible. > > So, if it was a straight choice between these two features, which > > would you prefer ? > > That¹s nasty.. > Me I'd prefer per bank MIDI channels... But I

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Paul Maddox (Mail LIsts)

Colin, > space, and may prevent 'per bank midi channels' being possible. > So, if it was a straight choice between these two features, which > would you prefer ? That¹s nasty.. Me I'd prefer per bank MIDI channels... But I have a feeling I'm in the minority.. Paul

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Hans Greuber

Hi; As I would like some day to see implemented the way you enter step lenght pressing the buttons and the other thing to transpose / limit like the MAQ , my suggestion is to do several updates ,as there are no more space left,so people could install only those who like,in my cas

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by bleep

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004, Colin f wrote: > There would be enough space for per bank midi channels if the controller > config was global - i.e. just one controller set up and not per bank. Maybe > that would be a workable compromise... yes, since on most (or maybe just many) devices, y

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by bleep

> But saving that configuration would eat into the remaining RAM > space, and may prevent 'per bank midi channels' being possible. > So, if it was a straight choice between these two features, which > would you prefer ? i believe i'm in the minority here, but i'd prefer per-bank

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Gene Schwartz

> > Robert van der Kamp wrote: >> On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:14, colinfraser_com wrote: >>> Folks, >>> >>> I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi >>> controller functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode. >>> I've got a test build running which transmits a vo

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by Paul Nagle

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:21:20 +0100, "Colin f" wrote: >In order to send a controller from the knobs using the aux events, you have >to use two auxes, and set it up on every pattern. Which is a drag to do. >Also, the knob values will only be sent on each beat. >With play mode contr

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by Robert van der Kamp

On Tuesday 19 October 2004 13:21, Colin f wrote: > In order to send a controller from the knobs using the > aux events, you have to use two auxes, and set it up on > every pattern. Also, the knob values will only be sent on > each beat. With play mode controllers, a message would

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by Colin f

> > NO!! > > per-bank midi channel assignments..please..let people use > > the "knob N to aux C/D" events if they want to use the > > knobs for controllers. > > Hmm, not familiar with this trick. If this is possible, why > is Colin trying to implement the CC stuff? In order to se

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by Robert van der Kamp

On Tuesday 19 October 2004 12:58, ch.³l wrote: > NO!! > per-bank midi channel assignments..please..let people use > the "knob N to aux C/D" events if they want to use the > knobs for controllers. Hmm, not familiar with this trick. If this is possible, why is Colin trying to imple

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Gert van Santen

Robert van der Kamp wrote: > On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:14, colinfraser_com wrote: >> Folks, >> >> I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi >> controller functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode. >> I've got a test build running which transmits a volume cc >>

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by MAG

--- Robert van der Kamp wrote: > > On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:14, colinfraser_com > wrote: > > Folks, > > > > I've been having a look a the possibility of > adding midi > > controller functionality to the P3 knobs in play > mode. > > I've got a test build running which transmi

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Quick question

2004-10-19 by Robert van der Kamp

On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:14, colinfraser_com wrote: > Folks, > > I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi > controller functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode. > I've got a test build running which transmits a volume cc > message on each track's midi chann

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Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by ch.³l

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "colinfraser_com" wrote: > > Folks, > > I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi controller > functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode. > I've got a test build running which transmits a volume cc message on > each track

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Re: Quick question

2004-10-19 by Peter Lunnon

> > So, if it was a straight choice between these two features, > > which would you prefer ? > > I'd prefer the sending of (configurable) CCs! :)) > > - Robert Yep, seconded - that would be very handy :) Pete

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Quick question

2004-10-19 by colinfraser_com

Folks, I've been having a look a the possibility of adding midi controller functionality to the P3 knobs in play mode. I've got a test build running which transmits a volume cc message on each track's midi channel when the lower knob is adjusted. Potentially this could become con

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