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Re: resolution

2006-05-31 by aminichmair

> This is something that is restricted by internal value lengths. > At 48 ppqn, a single step in tbase 1 has a length of 192 ticks. > If I went to 96 ppqn, that step would have a length of 384 ticks. > That wouldn't fit into a byte value - it would need an integer. > That's not t

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Gate on P3

2006-05-31 by Zed Velkovich

So, P3 can not do tenuto? Colin f wrote: > 1-12 gate lenght is too short. It should be 1-full. If lenght > set to full, note last until next note without overlap. I see. The way the pattern data is stored, there are only 4 bits for the length value on each step. So the maximum po

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Gate on P3

2006-05-31 by Colin f

> 1-12 gate lenght is too short. It should be 1-full. If lenght > set to full, note last until next note without overlap. I see. The way the pattern data is stored, there are only 4 bits for the length value on each step. So the maximum possible range is 1 to 16. Without reducing

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Gate on P3

2006-05-31 by Zed Velkovich

1-12 gate lenght is too short. It should be 1-full. If lenght set to full, note last until next note without overlap. Colin f wrote: > I think that gate time is to short on P3. I can not run some > arp's (e.g. in SX) and I don't have gate off option in gate > menu of P3. I know I

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resolution

2006-05-31 by aminichmair

just curios is it possible to have a higher resolution (e.g 96ppq) on the p3 or would it mean a whole reprogramming? I ask this, because sometimes I wished the delay could be set in finer steps thanks alex

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Gate on P3

2006-05-31 by Colin f

> I think that gate time is to short on P3. I can not run some > arp's (e.g. in SX) and I don't have gate off option in gate > menu of P3. I know I can tie notes but it's just not the same > in the matter of button pressing and sound I hear out of my > synthesizers. Not the same.

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Gate on P3

2006-05-31 by Zed Velkovich

I think that gate time is to short on P3. I can not run some arp's (e.g. in SX) and I don't have gate off option in gate menu of P3. I know I can tie notes but it's just not the same in the matter of button pressing and sound I hear out of my synthesizers. Not the same. It will b

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Nick Rothwell

On 31 May 2006, at 10:58, sascha.matzke@gmail.com wrote: > for instance when I scroll or > zoom in Tracktion the midi clock gets noticeable slower and > recovers when I > stop I think we can file that one under "shite coding". -- N. nick rothwell -- composition, systems, performa

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Nick Rothwell

On 31 May 2006, at 10:22, Colin f wrote: > That's where the theory falls down... Ah, you mean where it becomes practice? (Where the rubber hits the road, as our US cousins might say.) > If you can assume that absolute to relative timebase conversion is > going to > be accurate, y

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by sascha.matzke@gmail.com

Hi, On 5/31/06, Colin f wrote: > > If you can assume that absolute to relative timebase conversion is going > to > be accurate, you would expect the handling of MIDI clock would be equally > accurate too, in which case, you wouldn't be considering using MTC to get > round dodgy M

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Julian

>>Timebase conversion from linear time to a preset tempo clock would be a >>fairly complex bit of coding, and not something there is scope for in the >>remaining space in P3 I'm afraid. Colin, I think ive mentioned it before, but i cant find the conclusion - I know that the conce

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Colin f

> > That's not true. MTC provides an absolute time reference - > > continuously. > > Indeed - that's the whole point of timecode. Assuming maths of > sufficient accuracy, two devices with the same tempo figure > should be > able to stay locked by constantly doing the frames-to-be

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Oakley Sound

One thing I tried when I had problems using the P3 with Tracktion [software sequencer/VST host], was to use midiox's internal clock generator. I used midiox as the clock master and it drove both Tracktion via MTC and the P3 via midiclock. midiox will generate MTC and midiclock si

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Nick Rothwell

On 31 May 2006, at 09:27, sascha.matzke@gmail.com wrote: > That's not true. MTC provides an absolute time reference - > continuously. Indeed - that's the whole point of timecode. Assuming maths of sufficient accuracy, two devices with the same tempo figure should be able to stay

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Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Gary Chang

Saacha, I don't disagree with your observation - if, in fact, you have a device that will calculate tempos referencing an absolute time reference, then that is ideal - I have that - in my Protools system, referencing a house sync generator that phase locks everything, including M

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by sascha.matzke@gmail.com

Hi, On 5/31/06, Gary Chang wrote: > > MTC offers nothing but a precision starter, at a certain address, > starting the machines all at once, hoping that the internal clocks > will run together long enough not to cause a problem. That's not true. MTC provides an absolute time refe

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Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Gary Chang

You guys are confusing timestamping with an actual time reference. OK, so MTC is sending an arbitrary clock to reference the two machines - it is not sending the EXACT interval of the tempo - you are assumming that each and every one of your devices are individually calcualting t

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Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-31 by Gary Chang

Nick, I am not disputing that you and others have had success using MTC - I use it all the time. But I am just pointing out the difference between the two. MTC offers nothing but a precision starter, at a certain address, starting the machines all at once, hoping that the interna

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] P3 as percussion sequencer....

2006-05-30 by Colin f

> I was thinking about the AUX NOTE events: > Would it be possible to create an event so that when > triggering an aux > note, it will always be the same note? Preferably as a preset? > So if a few of these were available, you could put these in > Aux A to D, > resulting in 5 dif

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-30 by Nick Rothwell

> That's interesting to hear that midi time code is "inferior" to MTC - > they are two completely different things - midi clock is a time > reference, while MTC are simply addresses. I'm not sure what you mean by "simply addresses". MIDI Time Code (MTC) is a MIDI encoding of time

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Re: Midi Timecode?

2006-05-30 by Gary Chang

sascha.matzke@... wrote: > > I asked around (Steinberg, Tracktion user forum) and they all seem to be > pretty sure that Midi Clock is inferior to Midi Timecode. That's interesting to hear that midi time code is "inferior" to MTC - they are two completely different things - midi

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P3 order - any lead time ?

2006-05-30 by Olivier Tison

Dear list members, Is there any lead time if I order my P3 today ? will it take a long time to be delivered ? cheers, Olivier [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Midi Timecode?

2006-05-30 by Colin f

> I asked around (Steinberg, Tracktion user forum) and they all > seem to be > pretty sure that Midi Clock is inferior to Midi Timecode. > Thus my question: > Would it be possible for the P3 to support Midi Timecode (only for > synchronization not absolute positioning)? MIDI cloc

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Midi Timecode?

2006-05-30 by sascha.matzke@gmail.com

Hi, I don't know what it is, but software Midi Clock support seems to get worse with every update (Cubase, Tracktion). I still remember my old Atari Falcon with Cubase on it - the midi clock output was just tight; no glitches nothing. But today :-(. I asked around (Steinberg, Tra

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Re: Schaltwerk or P3 ?

2006-05-30 by otison

> Dead in the terms of OS development. Ask Doepfer when the last OS that > they released for it. Doepfer > been ignoring feature requests for it for years... to the point where a > third party had decided to backwards engineer the OS. > Don't think it ever got released though...

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P3 as percussion sequencer....

2006-05-29 by Tom Adam

I've almost got my 9090 finished. So I was thinking about a way to use it ;-) What is the easiest way to use the P3 for sequencing a 9090? I was thinking about the AUX NOTE events: Would it be possible to create an event so that when triggering an aux note, it will always be the

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Schaltwerk or P3 ?

2006-05-29 by DB

otison wrote: > thanks for your inputs. > decision almost done, for a P3 that is. although from Doepfer website > it seems like Schaltwerk is not dead yet : they plan a new run of > production this summer (back by popular demand as they put it). > Dead in the terms of OS developm

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Schaltwerk or P3 ?

2006-05-29 by henry

Am 29.05.2006 um 13:22 schrieb otison: > BTW I did not know that SND step sequencer, and it looks f***** > great :) it is :-) best regards, henry stamerjohann ---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Schaltwerk or P3 ?

2006-05-29 by henry

Olivier, I'd say decide for the P3, here's a quick list: - the P3 architecture needs a little if you want to do complex things, but get into using P3 tracks/patterns/banks is done in 5minutes - one can use the P3 easily for simultanious 8 tracks of x0x programming (even more inco

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Schaltwerk or P3 ?

2006-05-29 by Olivier Tison

Hello to all, I'm new to this list, so first of all, let me introduce myself I'm an electronic music fan and composer, I've been producing music for the past 10 years, and had a few commercial releases since then. I've started producing on an all-hardware based studio in 97, usin

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Re: Schaltwerk or P3 ?

2006-05-29 by otison

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, henry wrote: > > Olivier, > > I'd say decide for the P3, here's a quick list: > > - the P3 architecture needs a little if you want to do complex > things, but get into using P3 tracks/patterns/banks is done in 5minutes > - one can use th

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New music ala P3

2006-05-27 by Jim Combs

Here are three edited clips from new recordings of mine that feature my P3: http://www.sensitivechaos.com/mp3s/EarthtoneMySpacemix.mp3 http://www.sensitivechaos.com/mp3s/ELC1MySpaceEditmix.mp3 http://www.sensitivechaos.com/mp3s/AndroidCatEdit2MySpacemix.mp3 Feedback appreciated.

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Another Cubase P3 question

2006-05-26 by Zahir Manek

great, thanks. exactly what i needed to know. implode7@comcast.net wrote: -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Zahir Manek > > I have a question. How do most people use the P3 with > > Cubase? I have a notron, and its simple, just plug the Midi > > out of

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Another Cubase P3 question

2006-05-26 by implode7@comcast.net

-------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Zahir Manek > > I have a question. How do most people use the P3 with > > Cubase? I have a notron, and its simple, just plug the Midi > > out of the Notron into the Midi in of your soundcard, and you > > can control any

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Another Cubase P3 question

2006-05-26 by Paul Nagle

Zahir Manek wrote: > > I have a question. How do most people use the P3 with > > Cubase? I have a notron, and its simple, just plug the Midi > > out of the Notron into the Midi in of your soundcard, and you > > can control any midi instrument with it. But the P3 sends out > > on

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Colin f

> Do you have a clue as to what's happening then - seems to > happen at the > beginning of the loop cycle - not every time, but often. > Cubase is sending > something that the other sequencers are not... I can't say for sure what's happening with your particular Cubase... I origi

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Another Cubase P3 question

2006-05-26 by Zahir Manek

> I have a question. How do most people use the P3 with > Cubase? I have a notron, and its simple, just plug the Midi > out of the Notron into the Midi in of your soundcard, and you > can control any midi instrument with it. But the P3 sends out > on more than one midi channel. H

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Gene Schwartz

> >> I do have 3.1.006...isn't that the latest version? > > Yes, there is a sync queue in that build, so multiple clock bytes will be > chased even if they exceed the maximum possible tempo. Do you have a clue as to what's happening then - seems to happen at the beginning of the

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Colin f

> I do have 3.1.006...isn't that the latest version? Yes, there is a sync queue in that build, so multiple clock bytes will be chased even if they exceed the maximum possible tempo. > This is on a mac, actually, and not a pc. Aren't they both the same thing now ? ;-) Best regards

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Gene Schwartz

> >> I'm running into midi clock issues, slaving the p3. It >> appears to be related >> to Cubase, since I don't experience the same problems with >> Numerology and >> Bidule. I also don't think that it's p3 related, since I have >> the same issue >> with my Spectralis. > > There

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Gene Schwartz

> Hi, > > On 5/26/06, ByronIV wrote: > >> btw, have you tried reversing the masters? ie, setting the p3 as the midi >> master? > > > As far as I recall SX3 can't be slaved to a MidiClock source - only to Midi > Timecode. > > I had sync problems with SX3 too and now I'm using Able

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Gene Schwartz

> I don't have sx3 for OSX yet...don't plan to go that route at least until > they release a unibin for it...anyways, I don't know exactly how similar the > low level code is between the PC version and the Mac version, but the first > 2 releases of SX3 for the PC had detrimental

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Colin f

> I'm running into midi clock issues, slaving the p3. It > appears to be related > to Cubase, since I don't experience the same problems with > Numerology and > Bidule. I also don't think that it's p3 related, since I have > the same issue > with my Spectralis. There was an updat

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by sascha.matzke@gmail.com

Hi, On 5/26/06, ByronIV wrote: > btw, have you tried reversing the masters? ie, setting the p3 as the midi > master? As far as I recall SX3 can't be slaved to a MidiClock source - only to Midi Timecode. I had sync problems with SX3 too and now I'm using Ableton Live! almost exclu

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by ByronIV

I don't have sx3 for OSX yet...don't plan to go that route at least until they release a unibin for it...anyways, I don't know exactly how similar the low level code is between the PC version and the Mac version, but the first 2 releases of SX3 for the PC had detrimental syncing

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Anyone using cubase sx 3, os x, with p3?

2006-05-26 by Gene Schwartz

I'm running into midi clock issues, slaving the p3. It appears to be related to Cubase, since I don't experience the same problems with Numerology and Bidule. I also don't think that it's p3 related, since I have the same issue with my Spectralis. If I have the p3 synced to Cubas

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] wonderful tool

2006-05-21 by DB

aminichmair wrote: > Hi > > Got my P3 2 weeks ago, and it's really hard to do my money-job > since then! > I telecommute to work daily for the last 5 years. Try having your home office in your Studio and have the P3 leering at you all day. There's been many a lunches that I"ve sk

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Had a go at it today for the first time ... !

2006-05-21 by Martin

Hi, Since I bought a Poly Evolver and a P3 at the same time I had a lot of fun making my first steps into the P3 world today. I hope all you great people ( been to this board for a month or so ) won't be put off from too many stupid newbie questions I will ask from now on. Thanks

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wonderful tool

2006-05-21 by aminichmair

Hi Got my P3 2 weeks ago, and it's really hard to do my money-job since then! Thank you Colin!

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