Bc2000 (for the BCF2000 & BCR2000)

Hey all... Is there a source for blank overlays? If not, would this group be interested in investing together via a FundMe or something else to place an order?

I know I'd like 7 or 8 of these but would be expensive to order just 7 or 8.

Call me in too please!

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Van: "Stefano Garuti sgaruti@... [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
Verzonden: ‎6/‎10/‎2015 10:17
Aan: "bc2000@yahoogroups.com" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
Onderwerp: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks

  
Definitively interested!


I think that something in semi-rigid palstic writable by  dry-erase markers could be very interesting.




Stefano

I use this “Post It 658”  tape Nice and Wide works great for me

From: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 10:45 PM
To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks

 

  

Hi,
I'd be interested in a few as well.  I actually sent an email to them a long time ago about making a blank BCR overlay but never got a reply.  I hope you have better luck!
Best,
J. P.

I'd be interested in a few overlays as well, if the price was reasonable.

Regards
andy

I'd buy several of these. Thanks

I have some overlays here. Don’t ask where they from, I don’t know. I don’t need them, so if you are from cologne, germany, you can have them.

 

 

Von: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 8. Oktober 2015 23:53
An: bc2000@yahoogroups.com
Betreff: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks

 

  

I like the idea of 2 separate pieces. The Mopho/Tetra at synthgraphics does this and that seems like the way to go as well.

 

I'm wondering if we would have more flexibility in terms of surface materials if we used a sticker as opposed to printing directly on the vinyl? I haven't used vinyl like this before but I can imagine it's not too easy to print over.

Bought them years ago…

 

Von: bc2000@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bc2000@yahoogroups.com] 
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I would be interested in the 11 for $100 order. I think it would be nice to see a picture of a prototype first before I jump in. Not sure how the market is for selling them 1 at a time, maybe Jamie can speak to that.

 

Jamie, thanks for the great response and offer. I think a big part of this group order was to get something that could be customized. I have a couple of custom programs and would like to print them out and stick them to the overlay. 





That being said, you have the most experience with printing these and know will and wont work. Do you think the idea of having a 'blank' overlay with a sticky side that a custom printed sheet could stick to would work?





Thanks again for the help here!

I'd be interested.

Steve

Okay ill start a new post with the list once we get some more folks.

Yes u will see samples. Ill do a video or even a live periscope if u guys want to ask questions.

Postage...ill get them in chicago and mail out so whatever that will be... they are going to be thin so cant image theyd be too much...padded envelope probably.

Yep I'm in cheers!

Joe Manton

Will this be laser cut in 2 parts? (top & bottom)

Any thoughts on how these could be bound together and still maintain the front profile?

What's the material?

Can the printing process support full color?

Keen to see a mock up!

Regards,
JPS

Are they printable? What material(s) are they made of?

Yea couldnt get enough interest as we need a big order to make it cost effective

Great! Can we have the template for editing our own?:-)

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The kiwi is cool but, still not the most ideal.  You need a device that is a more simplistic standard.  That's why all knobs that double as buttons would be better.

-Scott

> On Jun 4, 2016, at 3:31 AM, Kerry Bradley kerrybradley@... [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> When I read your description of the ideal hardware syx/cc programmer, my mind drifted to the Kiwitechnics Patch Editor!
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: "Scott Stanley scartattack@... [bc2000]" 
> Sent: Jun 3, 2016 8:46 PM 
> To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
> Subject: Re: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks 
> 
>  
> I haven't applied this yet but, I bought super thin, adhesive magnet paper.    I am going to adhere 1 layer of blank magnet paper to the unit first.  Then I will print my overlays to additional pieces on super thin printable magnet paper and the two magnets will stick together.  This way the templates can be somewhat more easily swapped for other devices.  
> 
> On another note, I wonder how much it would be to mass produce the housing in that picture?  It's so much better!  Did that get sent to Behringer?  Anyone know what email to send it to?  Because I would gladly send it!  
> 
> Here is what I have been thinking about for an updated BCR-esque hardware sysex programmer:
> 
> Smaller, flat build
> No step up for the top knobs and buttons.  Seriously, what's up with that?  Who green lit that design flaw?  It's annoying.  No standard paper size allows anyone to print a single sheet of paper with all your parameters for all knobs and buttons.  
> 
> The BCR can hold several presets but, how many people set it up for 1 thing and don't bother changing it because it's an annoying hassle to swap out overlays each time.  We should be able to use these things for nearly everything in our studios just by swapping presets.
> 
> Use smaller, infinite, clear with led, push button potentiometers.
> - Don't get me wrong, I like using bigger components but, having the smaller infinite turning knobs that double as you buttons would allow the device to be made smaller and more portable.  If every knob is a button as well that can light up (think Korg Volca Keys knobs but that are also buttons).  You could have them on, off, pulse, etc...
> 
> I don't need a programer the size of a mixer.  Roland's PG-800 is a prime example of a well designed programmer.  It's small, robust and works very well. However, knobs would still be better than's sliders.
> 
> Put an oled display under each knob?
> OK, I realize this could be costly but, even if it only had a few characters, which could display your parameter name when not touched and the parameter amount when moved (Instead of LED lights).  If you know how a Waldorf Microwave XT or even a Korg Minilogue display shows it's parameters, it would be similar to that but each knob on the BCR would have it's own display. This would be amazing.  We would never need to try and print out overlays again!
> 
> Put a micro PC (Raspberry Pi perhaps) inside the BCR 
> I realize this could add to the size but, maybe not too badly.  Having its own internal PC could potentially make it capable of running it's own programming software.  It would have SD card memory capabilities, USB, video out so perhaps an you could see an on screen editor window (which could do away with annoying overlays and could save money on the OLED idea), or run video (you could edit, watch, effect video this way.  You could potentially play video games on it this way.  Use soft synths since it would also have audio out. Midi sequencing, from the internal PC engine.  It could also provide real time updates from synthesizers for programs like http://www.fm-alive.com/Pages/SYM.aspx (presuming it could run windows or someone could write that for Linux) so you would no longer require a separate computer in the middle to do this...
> 
> whatever, the possibilities are nearly endless.
> 
> I don't know about any of you but, I would pay substantially more for that unit.
> 
> I have the skills to create an image mock up of the exterior design idea.  However, my component level engineering skills might be somewhat limited here.  If I knew who to contact at Behringer or another company I would gladly do so.  
> Regardless, THAT is the Hardware Sysex Programmer I would like. Who's with me?
> 
> -s*
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Ron Anderson bitman2112@yahoo.com [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Great! Can we have the template for editing our own?
>> :-)
>> 
>> 
>> From: "ultragalore@yahoo.com [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
>> To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, June 3, 2016 2:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks [1 Attachment]
>> 
>>  
>> [Attachment(s) from ultragalore@... [bc2000] included below]
>> A while back I have made a whole different panel for the BCR (att) so I have a template which has very accurate measurements. You could take this template and use it on a cutting plotter if you wish, on a plotter like the Silhouette cameo for example, not sure if that's an option.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

That magnetic paper on adhesive magnetic paper idea is great. What paper did you get and would a machine cutting printer like the one mentioned here cut it?

Also, could we get the template? I've started making my own, and it seems open office drawer is capable of anything I need except getting the rounded shape for the buttons right..

Looks good, I'm in.

Tj

What I really want is that custom chassis your BCR is in!

-Scott

> On Oct 9, 2016, at 5:47 PM, danielhesse1@... [bc2000] <bc2000@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Dear all,
> good news: new supplier for the overlays and back to old pricing. I have built a webpage for the overlays: Products - Taktility
> 
> Products - Taktility
> The musician's trusted source for hardware and software controller accessories: overlays, templates and more
> View on www.taktility.com
> Preview by Yahoo
> 
> Best regards,
> Daniel
>

Hi Daniel,

I've made BCR2000 presets for use with the Vecoven 4.X PWM Roland Super JX10/MKS70. I also designed some overlays in Photoshop for use with these presets and am wondering, if provided with an image file, if you can have these overlays printed with user supplied overlay designs?

Cheers,
James

I will be looking at options to provide custom printed overlays (first printed, then cut) in the near future, so stay tuned (either check this group or my website www.taktility.com)
Best regards,Daniel
 

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How are you cutting them? I have bcr2000 templates made in SkinMan and have looked at various diy cutters like the silhouette cameo 3. They are marketed at the balloon and butterfly crowd so I'm suspicious @ 300.00 a machine.

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 Subject: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks
   
    I will be looking at options to provide custom printed overlays (first printed, then cut) in the near future, so stay tuned (either check this group or my website www.taktility.com)
Best regards,Daniel
 

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The Brother CM250 looks promising. 


      From: "danielhesse1@... [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
 To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:13 PM
 Subject: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks
   
    @Ron: I have a supplier who does the cutting for me with a laser. 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Interesting idea, might work. Please let us know your experience if you go ahead with that.
 

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    On Wednesday, October 19, 2016 5:25 AM, "Ron Anderson bitman2112@... [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     The Brother CM250 looks promising. 


      From: "danielhesse1@... [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
 To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2016 2:13 PM
 Subject: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks
  
    @Ron: I have a supplier who does the cutting for me with a laser. I suspect the diy cutters that you mention would not be able to cut the synthetic paper that I am using for the overlays (very robust, apparently you cannot tear it).

I wrote to Brother support and attached an intricate BCR2000 overlay image with seperate holes for all encoders and buttons:

Response By Email (Tammy) (10/20/2016 04:11 PM)
Dear Stefan,

Thank you for your email and interest in the Brother Scan N Cut machine.  I’ll be happy to help you.

 
I was able to scan and cut the circles and buttons out of this image.  It will cut anything it picks up, but you do have the ability to delete items you do not want cut.
 
I hope this helps!
 
Thank you again for emailing us.  If we can be of further assistance, please let us know.  We are happy to help.

At Your Side,
Tammy
Brother
Customer By Service Web (Stefan Aberg) (10/20/2016 05:42 AM)
Would the CM250 (CM300 in Europe I presume)
be able to scan and cut the circles and buttons in the attached
image? The image has a width of an A4 paper.
Regards
Stefan Aberg

I'm finding $300.00 a steep climb for overlays even with the my custom printed annotations. I am making a multi-unit bcr2000 plugin and could offer overlays as value add so I'm tempted, but evm my wife is not a butterfly cutout girl. Stands to reason your rep's name was Tammy. - Super engineered device. bet the sell like two a year. 

      From: "steffolino@... [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com>
 To: bc2000@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 1:42 AM
 Subject: Re: [bc2000] Re: overlay blanks
   
    I wrote to Brother support and attached an intricate BCR2000 overlay image with seperate holes for all encoders and buttons:

Response By Email (Tammy) (10/20/2016 04:11 PM)
Dear Stefan,

Thank you for your email and interest in the Brother Scan N Cut machine. I’ll be happy to help you.

I was able to scan and cut the circles and buttons out of this image. It will cut anything it picks up, but you do have the ability to delete items you do not want cut.
 
I hope this helps!
 
Thank you again for emailing us. If we can be of further assistance, please let us know. We are happy to help.

At Your Side,
Tammy
Brother
Customer By Service Web (Stefan Aberg) (10/20/2016 05:42 AM)
Would the CM250 (CM300 in Europe I presume)
be able to scan and cut the circles and buttons in the attached
image? The image has a width of an A4 paper.
Regards
Stefan Aberg

Haha, each to his own. I've spent so much time programming different presets in BC Manager having two BRCs working in tandem to cover the full functionality of my softsynths that the price is justified for me.  You also get pain from cutting out plus hundred holes with a precision knife, and the result won't compare.
And I have a 5year old daughter into 
arts and craft. :-)

Ive managed to make overlays in photo paper that could be inkjet or laser, my equipment cuts it perfectly, the only thing is I cant find a low cost A4 photo paper supplier, anyone have any info on one?

Depending on the cost of the paper an overlay set could be a buck or two.

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> Haha, each to his own. I've spent so much time programming different presets in BC Manager having two BRCs working in tandem to cover the full functionality of my softsynths that the price is justified for me.  You also get pain from cutting out plus hundred holes with a precision knife, and the result won't compare.
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> arts and craft. :-)
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The overlays look great.

What do you guys (and gals) think about a large group order for a MackieHUI mode panel ? :)

On 17 באוק 2016, at 15:46, "kelly@... [bc2000]" <bc2000@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I can't wait. I got mine today and found Isopropanol removes ink easily including that of sharpies. I tested it on the back first ;-)
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