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2010-06-28 by Steven Vachon
According to the manual, phasers uses less CPU than that of flangers. My current algorithm fits a stereo flanger perfectly, but when I delete it and try to add a stereo phaser, it claims that it "won't fit". Is this a bug that can be worked around, or... ? Thanks
2010-06-28 by M M
2010-06-29 by Marko Menart
If you're doing this in "Dual Alg" (both S-Discs) algorithm, that means that one of S-Discs is full so you have to move effect (or few) to the other S-Disc. Be careful of the right fx order in a signal chain. Best regards, Marko ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@gmail.com> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 8:51:25 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Flanger fits but not Phaser? According to the manual, phasers uses less CPU than that of flangers. My current algorithm fits a stereo flanger perfectly, but when I delete it and try to add a stereo phaser, it claims that it "won't fit". Is this a bug that can be worked around, or... ? Thanks
2010-06-29 by Steven Vachon
Thanks for the response, guys. My algorithm is very simple, being comprised of a reverb (30 blocks) and a few mixers (0 RAM). Adding a phaser (2 blocks) should only bring the memory usage up to 32 blocks and shouldn't be an issue considering an algorithm has a max of 256. Additionally, my algorithm in "2101 Edit" shows that I have a lot of RAM left to work with. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@...> wrote:
> > If you're doing this in "Dual Alg" (both S-Discs) algorithm, that means that one of S-Discs is full so you have to move effect (or few) to the other S-Disc. Be careful of the right fx order in a signal chain. > > Best regards, Marko > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 8:51:25 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > According to the manual, phasers uses less CPU than that of flangers. My current algorithm fits a stereo flanger perfectly, but when I delete it and try to add a stereo phaser, it claims that it "won't fit". Is this a bug that can be worked around, or... ? Thanks >
2010-06-29 by M M
IMPORTANT:
When you start building your own Algorithms, remember that CPU andRAM block counts are approximate. It is normal to run out of blocks even
your math says you have a few blocks still available. Also, every Algorithm
automatically requires about 28 CPU blocks for the master mix control and
miscellaneous input and output routing. This gives you about 228 CPU blocks
to work with (484 CPU blocks on a PPC-210 equipped GSP-2101 Artist).2010-06-29 by Steven Vachon
Interesting. And, I'm using two 2x1's and two 4x3's. I forgot to mention that I'm also using two mono delays and a 3-band parametric EQ. Pretty silly of me. Here is what my flanger algorithm looks like: http://www.svachon.com/alg.png --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > How many and what type of mixers? Because assuming 3 4X2 gives 176 cpu blocks. > > > > IMPORTANT: When you start building your own Algorithms, remember that CPU and > RAM block counts are approximate. It is normal to run out of blocks even > your math says you have a few blocks still available. Also, every Algorithm > automatically requires about 28 CPU blocks for the master mix control and > miscellaneous input and output routing. This gives you about 228 CPU blocks > to work with (484 CPU blocks on a PPC-210 equipped GSP-2101 Artist). > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:30:19 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > Thanks for the response, guys. > > My algorithm is very simple, being comprised of a reverb (30 blocks) and a few mixers (0 RAM). Adding a phaser (2 blocks) should only bring the memory usage up to 32 blocks and shouldn't be an issue considering an algorithm has a max of 256. > > Additionally, my algorithm in "2101 Edit" shows that I have a lot of RAM left to work with. > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@> wrote: > > > > If you're doing this in "Dual Alg" (both S-Discs) algorithm, that means that one of S-Discs is full so you have to move effect (or few) to the other S-Disc. Be careful of the right fx order in a signal chain. > > > > Best regards, Marko > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 8:51:25 PM > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > According to the manual, phasers uses less CPU than that of flangers. My current algorithm fits a stereo flanger perfectly, but when I delete it and try to add a stereo phaser, it claims that it "won't fit". Is this a bug that can be worked around, or... ? Thanks > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >
2010-06-29 by M M
2010-06-29 by Steven Vachon
2010-07-07 by Steven Vachon
Hello? Anyone? Please read my previous message as it sums up the ram and cpu values --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
> > Well, considering my algorithm ( http://www.svachon.com/alg.png ), it > would be: > 97 RAM blocks and 223 CPU blocks with the stereo flanger > and > 80 RAM blocks and 221 CPU blocks with the stereo phaser > > > Why would the flanger work and not the phaser? > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > 167 cpu blocks then. > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:33:10 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. > > > > And, I'm using two 2x1's and two 4x3's > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M strategy400@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > How many and what type of mixers? Because assuming 3 4X2 gives 176 > cpu blocks. > > > > > > > > > > > > IMPORTANT: When you start building your own Algorithms, remember > that CPU and > > > RAM block counts are approximate. It is normal to run out of blocks > even > > > your math says you have a few blocks still available. Also, every > Algorithm > > > automatically requires about 28 CPU blocks for the master mix > control and > > > miscellaneous input and output routing. This gives you about 228 CPU > blocks > > > to work with (484 CPU blocks on a PPC-210 equipped GSP-2101 Artist). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > From: prometh@ > > > Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 18:30:19 +0000 > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the response, guys. > > > > > > My algorithm is very simple, being comprised of a reverb (30 blocks) > and a few mixers (0 RAM). Adding a phaser (2 blocks) should only bring > the memory usage up to 32 blocks and shouldn't be an issue considering > an algorithm has a max of 256. > > > > > > Additionally, my algorithm in "2101 Edit" shows that I have a lot of > RAM left to work with. > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@> wrote: > > > > > > > > If you're doing this in "Dual Alg" (both S-Discs) algorithm, that > means that one of S-Discs is full so you have to move effect (or few) to > the other S-Disc. Be careful of the right fx order in a signal chain. > > > > > > > > Best regards, Marko > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@> > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Mon, June 28, 2010 8:51:25 PM > > > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > > > > > > > According to the manual, phasers uses less CPU than that of > flangers. My current algorithm fits a stereo flanger perfectly, but when > I delete it and try to add a stereo phaser, it claims that it "won't > fit". Is this a bug that can be worked around, or... ? Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more > from your inbox. > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:\ > ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your > inbox. > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:\ > ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > >
2010-07-07 by cheeseburgy
Hello Steven. Please RTFM. Unfortunately, it requires some time, effort and thought to do so. If you haven't been successful here in attempting to get a satisfactory answer, either a) no one has your answer, b) no one has time to answer, or read the manual for you, or c) no one appreciates the way that you demand answers, and are purposely ignoring you due to your ignorance and obvious lack of proper etiquette. In any case, RTFM. And have a nice day! --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
> > Hello? Anyone? Please read my previous message as it sums up the ram and cpu values > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > Well, considering my algorithm ( http://www.svachon.com/alg.png ), it > > would be: > > 97 RAM blocks and 223 CPU blocks with the stereo flanger > > and > > 80 RAM blocks and 221 CPU blocks with the stereo phaser > > > > > > Why would the flanger work and not the phaser? > >
2010-07-07 by Steven Vachon
2010-07-07 by M M
2010-07-07 by Steven Vachon
2010-07-07 by Jeffrey Ace
Can anyone recommend a program that is capatible with windows vista so I can communicate with my digitech gsp 2101 via midi.To edit and download patches? ________________________________ From: cheeseburgy <netman@...t> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 11:01:32 AM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? Hello Steven. Please RTFM. Unfortunately, it requires some time, effort and thought to do so. If you haven't been successful here in attempting to get a satisfactory answer, either a) no one has your answer, b) no one has time to answer, or read the manual for you, or c) no one appreciates the way that you demand answers, and are purposely ignoring you due to your ignorance and obvious lack of proper etiquette. In any case, RTFM. And have a nice day! --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@...> wrote:
> > Hello? Anyone? Please read my previous message as it sums up the ram and cpu >values > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > Well, considering my algorithm ( http://www.svachon.com/alg.png ), it > > would be: > > 97 RAM blocks and 223 CPU blocks with the stereo flanger > > and > > 80 RAM blocks and 221 CPU blocks with the stereo phaser > > > > > > Why would the flanger work and not the phaser? > >
2010-07-07 by Steven Vachon
Try out MIDI Wizard. Read the final post: http://www.digitech.com/soundcomm/general_view_thread.asp?forumid=6&thread_id=1047698194 --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Ace <guitar_ace101@...> wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a program that is capatible with windows vista so I can > communicate with my digitech gsp 2101 via midi.To edit and download patches? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: cheeseburgy <netman@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 11:01:32 AM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > Â > > Hello Steven. Please RTFM. Unfortunately, it requires some time, effort and > thought to do so. If you haven't been successful here in attempting to get a > satisfactory answer, either a) no one has your answer, b) no one has time to > answer, or read the manual for you, or c) no one appreciates the way that you > demand answers, and are purposely ignoring you due to your ignorance and obvious > lack of proper etiquette. In any case, RTFM. > > And have a nice day! > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > Hello? Anyone? Please read my previous message as it sums up the ram and cpu > >values > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, considering my algorithm ( http://www.svachon.com/alg.png ), it > > > would be: > > > 97 RAM blocks and 223 CPU blocks with the stereo flanger > > > and > > > 80 RAM blocks and 221 CPU blocks with the stereo phaser > > > > > > > > > Why would the flanger work and not the phaser? > > > >
2010-07-07 by M M
2010-07-07 by Steven Vachon
Tell me where you live so I can calculate how much TNT to put in it. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@...> wrote:
> > > Send me your PPC 210 card for "inspection". > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > From: prometh@... > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 16:21:13 +0000 > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > > I don't want other patches. > > > From what [bigmarkm65] told me, I'm left with a max of 228 CPU blocks (since 28 blocks are used for master mix and routing). > > > My flanger algorithm works out to 223 CPU blocks (and 97 RAM blocks). > > > Swapping the flanger for a phaser would add up to 221 CPU blocks (and 80 RAM blocks). > > > I realize that the numbers are approximate, but unless Digitech screwed up on the differences between a flanger and a phaser in all versions of the manual, it should fit. Knowing that, I won't quit. Clearly I've RTFM and listened to things said here. > > > Thank you. I await intelligent responses. > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, M M <strategy400@> wrote: > > > > > > If the phaser don't fit, you must uh... quit. > > > > > > > > My wit knows no bounds... > > > > > > > > One thing though, I have some great sounding phaser patches. Can't see why all the difficulty. Send your unit to a tech for a checkup maybe. > > > > > > > > Maybe it's the nut behind the guitar... > > > > "Never put off till tomorrow what you can ignore entirely." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > > From: prometh@ > > Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 15:18:28 +0000 > > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only reason I posted another message was because someone had posted spam which could cause one to easily ignore my message. I do not demand, I simply request. Demanding would make me a jerk like you. Thanks for replying without reading my question. > > > > > > If anyone else has read this far [probably not], please check out my other message. I have RTFM and have added up the numbers (RAM, CPU). I don't ask for help without first attempting to figure it out on my own. Thank you. > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "cheeseburgy" netman@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello Steven. Please RTFM. Unfortunately, it requires some time, effort and thought to do so. If you haven't been successful here in attempting to get a satisfactory answer, either a) no one has your answer, b) no one has time to answer, or read the manual for you, or c) no one appreciates the way that you demand answers, and are purposely ignoring you due to your ignorance and obvious lack of proper etiquette. In any case, RTFM. > > > > > > And have a nice day! > > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" prometh@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello? Anyone? Please read my previous message as it sums up the ram and cpu values > > > > > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Well, considering my algorithm ( http://www.svachon.com/alg.png ), it > > > > > would be: > > > > > 97 RAM blocks and 223 CPU blocks with the stereo flanger > > > > > and > > > > > 80 RAM blocks and 221 CPU blocks with the stereo phaser > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why would the flanger work and not the phaser? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 >
2010-07-08 by M M
2010-07-08 by Norman Davies
________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...m> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, July 7, 2010 8:18:28 AM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? Huhh!........ that's what I like about guitar players. Plenty of simmering competiveness. Must be the race to get the solos or something. Keep up the cheeky banter lads. Hope both your guitars are far too valuable to get smashed in a propper fight though. best wishes, norman. The only reason I posted another message was because someone had posted spam which could cause one to easily ignore my message. I do not demand, I simply request. Demanding would make me a jerk like you. Thanks for replying without reading my question. If anyone else has read this far [probably not], please check out my other message. I have RTFM and have added up the numbers (RAM, CPU). I don't ask for help without first attempting to figure it out on my own. Thank you. --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "cheeseburgy" <netman@...> wrote:
> > > Hello Steven. Please RTFM. Unfortunately, it requires some time, effort and >thought to do so. If you haven't been successful here in attempting to get a >satisfactory answer, either a) no one has your answer, b) no one has time to >answer, or read the manual for you, or c) no one appreciates the way that you >demand answers, and are purposely ignoring you due to your ignorance and obvious >lack of proper etiquette. In any case, RTFM. > > And have a nice day! > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" prometh@ wrote: > > > > Hello? Anyone? Please read my previous message as it sums up the ram and cpu >values > > > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroup s.com, "Steven Vachon" <prometh@> wrote: > > > > > > Well, considering my algorithm ( http://www.svachon. com/alg.png ), it > > > would be: > > > 97 RAM blocks and 223 CPU blocks with the stereo flanger > > > and > > > 80 RAM blocks and 221 CPU blocks with the stereo phaser > > > > > > > > > Why would the flanger work and not the phaser? > > > >
2010-07-08 by Marko Menart
I did a little experiment. I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Flangers in a row (57 RAM, 210 CPU). According to the manual there's only 18 CPU blocks left (plus about 28 extra blocks), but I still managed to fit in a Smooth Wah which requires 25 CPU!!! Then I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Phasers in a row (6 RAM, 204 CPU). According to manual there's only 24 CPU blocks left. Now here comes the best part: With 24 CPU blocks left I could easily fit in a Cabinet Emulator (0 RAM, 17 CPU) but couldn't fit 6x2 Mixer (0 Ram, 17 CPU) or even 1 Band Parametric EQ (0 Ram, 14 CPU)! To conclude: It seems that the max values of RAM and CPU depends on the type and (or) combination of modules used in an algorhitm. The chart in the manual can serve only as a basis for pre-designing algorhitms. The final values are up to GSP. Best regards, Marko
2010-07-08 by Steven Vachon
Damn, that sucks. Never would've thought that'd make a difference. Thanks for thinking of this and putting it to the test. I'll really have to think now of what I can do --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@...> wrote:
> > I did a little experiment. I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Flangers > in a row (57 RAM, 210 CPU). According to the manual there's only 18 CPU blocks > left (plus about 28 extra blocks), but I still managed to fit in a Smooth Wah > which requires 25 CPU!!! > > Then I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Phasers in a row (6 RAM, 204 > CPU). According to manual there's only 24 CPU blocks left. > > Now here comes the best part: With 24 CPU blocks left I could easily fit in a > Cabinet Emulator (0 RAM, 17 CPU) but couldn't fit 6x2 Mixer (0 Ram, 17 CPU) or > even 1 Band Parametric EQ (0 Ram, 14 CPU)! > > To conclude: It seems that the max values of RAM and CPU depends on the type and > (or) combination of modules used in an algorhitm. The chart in the manual can > serve only as a basis for pre-designing algorhitms. The final values are up to > GSP. > > > Best regards, Marko >
2010-07-08 by Marko Menart
What kind of sound (result) are you up to? And also do you have a PPC 210 installed? Best regards, Marko ________________________________ From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 3:13:08 PM Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? Damn, that sucks. Never would've thought that'd make a difference. Thanks for thinking of this and putting it to the test. I'll really have to think now of what I can do --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@...> wrote:
> > I did a little experiment. I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Flangers > > in a row (57 RAM, 210 CPU). According to the manual there's only 18 CPU blocks > left (plus about 28 extra blocks), but I still managed to fit in a Smooth Wah > which requires 25 CPU!!! > > Then I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Phasers in a row (6 RAM, 204 > CPU). According to manual there's only 24 CPU blocks left. > > Now here comes the best part: With 24 CPU blocks left I could easily fit in a > Cabinet Emulator (0 RAM, 17 CPU) but couldn't fit 6x2 Mixer (0 Ram, 17 CPU) or > even 1 Band Parametric EQ (0 Ram, 14 CPU)! > > To conclude: It seems that the max values of RAM and CPU depends on the type >and > > (or) combination of modules used in an algorhitm. The chart in the manual can > serve only as a basis for pre-designing algorhitms. The final values are up to > GSP. > > > Best regards, Marko >
2010-07-13 by Steven Vachon
A reverbed digital delay, with a phaser applied over top of it all at the end. I have this with a flanger and sounds good, but the phaser's giving some trouble And yes, I have the second disc... I have a limited edition model. However, I prefer to use the extra power for seamless patch switching --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@...> wrote:
> > What kind of sound (result) are you up to? And also do you have a PPC 210 > installed? > > Best regards, Marko > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steven Vachon <prometh@...> > To: gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thu, July 8, 2010 3:13:08 PM > Subject: [gsp-2101] Re: Flanger fits but not Phaser? > > > Damn, that sucks. Never would've thought that'd make a difference. Thanks for > thinking of this and putting it to the test. I'll really have to think now of > what I can do > > --- In gsp-2101@yahoogroups.com, Marko Menart <okramtranem@> wrote: > > > > I did a little experiment. I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Flangers > > > > in a row (57 RAM, 210 CPU). According to the manual there's only 18 CPU blocks > > > left (plus about 28 extra blocks), but I still managed to fit in a Smooth Wah > > which requires 25 CPU!!! > > > > Then I created an algorithm and put three Stereo Phasers in a row (6 RAM, 204 > > > CPU). According to manual there's only 24 CPU blocks left. > > > > Now here comes the best part: With 24 CPU blocks left I could easily fit in a > > Cabinet Emulator (0 RAM, 17 CPU) but couldn't fit 6x2 Mixer (0 Ram, 17 CPU) or > > > even 1 Band Parametric EQ (0 Ram, 14 CPU)! > > > > To conclude: It seems that the max values of RAM and CPU depends on the type > >and > > > > (or) combination of modules used in an algorhitm. The chart in the manual can > > serve only as a basis for pre-designing algorhitms. The final values are up to > > > GSP. > > > > > > Best regards, Marko > > >
