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Re: [AVR-Chat] atmel programmer

2007-12-27 by Leon

----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandu Teo" To: Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] atmel programmer > Hello, > > Is there any Atmel programmer on USB? > I only have used this one : > http://microclub.pub.ro/blog/2007/11/15/programatorul-stk200-pentru

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Re: [AVR-Chat] atmel programmer

2007-12-27 by Roy E. Burrage

Try the new version of the in circuit programmer, the AVRISP mkII. It's about 35 bucks and uses a USB interface. If you can find an older version of the serial interface AVRISP, they work quite well with a USB/Serial adapter. Problem with the ISPs is if you have a brain fart and

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atmel programmer

2007-12-27 by Sandu Teo

Hello, Is there any Atmel programmer on USB? I only have used this one : http://microclub.pub.ro/blog/2007/11/15/programatorul-stk200-pentru-atmega/ Since I don't have a parallel port and not even a serial port I was wondering if there is any programmer on USB, easy to made or ..

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Beginner, I want a simple prog

2007-12-27 by David Kelly

On Dec 26, 2007, at 4:38 PM, Youssef Kandeel wrote: > Dear all, > > Iam a beginner learning AVR, > Iam using ATmega8535 MCU > I want simple delay program by decrementing a value in a register > and loop . > If any one can help me, please write the assembly and\or C code for > Cod

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Re: atmel programmer

2007-12-27 by Rick

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Sandu Teo wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there any Atmel programmer on USB? > I only have used this one : http://microclub.pub.ro/blog/2007/11/15/programatorul-stk200-pentru-atmega/ > > Since I don't have a parallel port and not even a serial port I was

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Re: atmel programmer

2007-12-27 by vidord

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Sandu Teo wrote: > > Hello, > > Is there any Atmel programmer on USB? > I only have used this one : http://microclub.pub.ro/blog/2007/11/15/programatorul-stk200-pentru- atmega/ > > Since I don't have a parallel port and not even a serial port I wa

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Beginner, I want a simple prog

2007-12-27 by dlc

It must be finals time somewhere, there have been a lot of these requests lately. :) DLC Youssef Kandeel wrote: > Dear all, > > Iam a beginner learning AVR, > Iam using ATmega8535 MCU > I want simple delay program by decrementing a value in a register and loop . > If any one can

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Re: Beginner, I want a simple prog

2007-12-27 by John

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, dlc wrote: > > It must be finals time somewhere, there have been a lot of these > requests lately. :) > > DLC Yep, and specifically for the ATmega8535. Where do the following posters go to school: Youssef Kandeel Wael Abd Elgilil mido glgl (I figu

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Re: [AVR-Chat] code speed optimization

2007-12-27 by Ralph Hilton

On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 17:06:23 +0200 you ("ahmed nabil" ) wrote: >hi ALL, >i have a basic knowledge that optimizing my code time or speed is a very >important matter >when writing a professional code. Using languages like "C" in codevision for >example, makes it >harder to know the

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Beginner, I want a simple prog

2007-12-27 by mido glgl

Study bitter for u .....Wael ----- Original Message ---- From: Youssef Kandeel To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 12:38:25 AM Subject: [AVR-Chat] Beginner, I want a simple prog Dear all, Iam a beginner learning AVR, Iam using ATmega8535 MCU I want simp

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Re: [AVR-Chat] code speed optimization

2007-12-27 by David Kelly

On Dec 26, 2007, at 9:06 AM, ahmed nabil wrote: > hi ALL, > i have a basic knowledge that optimizing my code time or speed is a > very > important matter when writing a professional code. Not as important as you make it sound. The most important instance I can think of has to do

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Re: [AVR-Chat] code speed optimization

2007-12-27 by Philippe Habib

One way that I do it is to have the routine set an I/O port on the way in and turn it off on the way out. Then I attach an oscilloscope to the pin I'm using and measure the amount of time the pin stays high and that's the duration of my routine. As with nearly anything else, ther

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Beginner, I want a simple prog

2007-12-26 by Youssef Kandeel

Dear all, Iam a beginner learning AVR, Iam using ATmega8535 MCU I want simple delay program by decrementing a value in a register and loop . If any one can help me, please write the assembly and\or C code for CodeVision AVR C compiler and\or C++ for WinAVR compiler. Best Regards,

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Re: [AVR-Chat] code speed optimization

2007-12-26 by BobGardner@aol.com

I usually write a timing loop that calls a subroutine 10 times in the loop and loops 100 times or 1000 times or 10000 times, and you time it with your watch. Then you know how many ms that routine takes. In a message dated 12/26/2007 4:21:59 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, a.nabil.mo

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code speed optimization

2007-12-26 by ahmed nabil

hi ALL, i have a basic knowledge that optimizing my code time or speed is a very important matter when writing a professional code. Using languages like "C" in codevision for example, makes it harder to know the execution time of my instructions, i know the matter also depends on

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Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-26 by Stefan Wimmer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Wael Abd Elgilil" wrote: > > Dear All > I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set , could you > help me > > Thanks > Wael Abd Elgilil > W.abdelgilil@... > Hello Wael, you are asking for quite a lot with your few word question. :-) I would

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Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-26 by Stefan Wimmer

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, erikc wrote: > > One thing I have consistently noticed about such posters is the all > seem to have middle-eastern sounding names. Why is that? > Maybe they're in their '70s or '80s now. I remember well anno '77 when I started to play around with

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-25 by erikc

David VanHorn wrote: > Well, even on christmas, don't feed the trolls! > > Honestly, it would probably be best to let inquiries like this receive no reply. One thing I have consistently noticed about such posters is the all seem to have middle-eastern sounding names. Why is that?

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-25 by Roy E. Burrage

You all are going to keep it up and we're going to be accused of being inhospitable to newbies suffering from DNS syndrome again. Just copy your CodeVision manual, convert to a pdf file, and send it to the poor kid...all at your own expense...for software you've bought yourself.

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-25 by Ralph Hilton

On Tue, 25 Dec 2007 16:01:23 -0000 you ("Wael Abd Elgilil" ) wrote: >--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, John Samperi wrote: >> >> At 06:58 AM 21/12/2007, you wrote: >> > I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set , could you >> >help me >> >> Which brand of compiler? And how

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-25 by Leon

----- Original Message ----- From: "Wael Abd Elgilil" To: Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set > Dear John Samperi > its brand is for code vision program , i need it from zero as i > am a begginer Can yo

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Re: I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-25 by Wael Abd Elgilil

--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, John Samperi wrote: > > At 06:58 AM 21/12/2007, you wrote: > > I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set , could you > >help me > > Which brand of compiler? And how is this instruction set > different from the ones you already know? > > Reg

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADC Vref

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Gilbert Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:15 AM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: ADC Vref Steve, We've done a lot of voltage measurement in the aviation world, which is simil

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Robert Adsett

At 05:13 PM 12/20/2007 -0800, Steven Hodge wrote: >BTW, I ordered the SW200 contactor yesterday. Rick at Tecknowledgey was >very helpful. Good to hear. Let us know how you get on, I'm kind of curious. Robert Another sign of the end of civilization, our technical magazines are get

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Re: [AVR-Chat] I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set

2007-12-21 by John Samperi

At 06:58 AM 21/12/2007, you wrote: > I need the ATmega8535 c compiler instruction set , could you >help me Which brand of compiler? And how is this instruction set different from the ones you already know? Regards John Samperi *****************************************************

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

Thanks. I was never able to get anywhere with that SparkFun link, just an Adobe error message about needing some Chinese language plugins. The power consumption is more than I'd like, but I'll ponder it. From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf O

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Bruce Parham

The MicroSD card spec, on the SparkFun page, lists 15-25 mA @ 25 MHz read/write and 0.3-0.6 mA in stanby with the clock stopped. Presumably it's for the 512MB card at the bottom of the page. Bruce Steven Hodge wrote: > These are looking very interesting. However, I'll be darned i

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

These are looking very interesting. However, I'll be darned if I can find out any specifications on how much power these cards consume. Do you know where I can find real data sheets on them? On the cards that is, not the sockets. A search on "microsd data sheet" on the SanDisk we

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

Ah, thanks. That explains it. SPI is it, then. BTW, I ordered the SW200 contactor yesterday. Rick at Tecknowledgey was very helpful. Steve From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Adsett Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:09 PM To: AVR

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Robert Adsett

At 03:35 PM 12/20/2007 -0800, Steven Hodge wrote: >I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging. And there is the reason you probably won't find IIC support. At 400kHz it takes 20secs to read that even with no overhead. At 20MHz that drops to less than a s

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Philippe Habib

Another thing to watch for is the quality of the card you're using. I worked on a multi million Dollar device a couple of years ago that stopped working when the consumer quality cards started flaking out after a few months of being read and written. The commercial quality cards

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Bruce Parham

Steve, A Micro-SD card and socket will fill the bill. Just don't drop the SD card, you'll never find it! See http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=127 for some ideas. Bruce Steven Hodge wrote: > I'm looking for at least 1 MB, so that's 8 of those babies, s

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Rene Teo

Yes, I am using those that are used in digital cameras and such. You can get connectors for SD cards from Digikey, Mouser ec. There are 2 big advantages in going this route. One is cost. As I said earlier, a 1GB SD card is about $6. Using any other type of flash memory is going t

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

I'm looking for at least 1 MB, so that's 8 of those babies, so then it gets to be a pcb space issue. The reason I'm trying to avoid SPI is just the usual I/O pin scarcity and I already have three I2C devices so am committed to that bus regardless. Memory is the only reason for SP

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

I thought those were things you stuck in digital cameras, etc. How do you interface them with - preferably on - a pcb? Steve From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Teo Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:33 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.c

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Rene Teo

Steven, I'm not sure I understand what you are asking. I'm using standard SD cards. RT. ----- Original Message ----- From: Steven Hodge To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:16 PM Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory Do you have a link to the SD

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Philippe Habib

Why do you want to stay away from SPI? In any case, would 2 of these work for you? FM24C512 from ramtron -----Original Message----- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hodge Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:35 PM To: AVR-Chat@ya

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Steven Hodge

Do you have a link to the SD you use? Steve From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Teo Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:00 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory Hi John, About the largest I2C EE

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-21 by Rene Teo

Hi John, About the largest I2C EEPROM's that I am aware of are 1Mbit capacity. Is there a reason why you would not want to go the SPI route? Atmel has several serial flashes in the 8-128Mbit range. A 16Mbit serial flash is less than $2 and offers the advantage of higher access sp

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RE: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Steven Hodge

I need much higher capacity, 1 MB (8 Mbit) minimum, for data logging. From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:52 PM To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AVR-Chat] Re: i2c flash memory Why is it requi

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Re: i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by John

Why is it required to be flash. There are I2C EEPROM's supporting over 1 million write cycles. This for me is more than sufficient. i.e. 24LC256 John C --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Steven Hodge" wrote: > > Does anyone know of external flash memory that communicates over an I

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RE: [AVR-Chat] i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Philippe Habib

There is the NXP PCF8570 256 words by 8 bits static ram. Here is a page that lists various parts: http://www.sxlist.com/techref/mem/srams.htm -----Original Message----- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Steven Hodge Sent: Thursday, Dece

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Re: [AVR-Chat] i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Jim Wagner

I believe that Ramtron makes some. They are zero-wait NVRAM, not exactly flash or EEPROM, but I've had good experience with their stuff. I've only used SPI versions but I think there are I2C versions, also. Jim On Dec 20, 2007, at 10:39 AM, Steven Hodge wrote: > Does anyone know

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i2c flash memory

2007-12-20 by Steven Hodge

Does anyone know of external flash memory that communicates over an I2C bus? All the ones I have looked at so far use SPI. I've found I2C EEPROM memory, but not flash. Thanks, Steve

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: INTO interrupt firing all the time?

2007-12-18 by Roy E. Burrage

There isn't only the job security angle but also milking the project as well. I think we've all seen that one if we've been around a while. And then there's just down right plain incompetence... REB David Kelly wrote: >On Dec 17, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Enki wrote: > > > >> You are rig

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: INTO interrupt firing all the time?

2007-12-18 by dlc

Coding in assembly is a must for some things - Especially if you don't need complex decision structures and aren't doing a lot of "big number" math. Doing it for everything is just being stubborn - IMO. ;) I like the tightness of assembly, but I have projects that would be a nigh

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: INTO interrupt firing all the time?

2007-12-18 by David Kelly

On Dec 17, 2007, at 6:49 PM, Enki wrote: > You are right, coding in Assembly is not for everyone. > The ones that have the intelligence for doing that are often seeing > as masochists. Pure jealousy... There is always the snobbery angle to consider. I have inherited very few proj

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Re: [AVR-Chat] Re: INTO interrupt firing all the time?

2007-12-18 by Enki

You are right, coding in Assembly is not for everyone. The ones that have the intelligence for doing that are often seeing as masochists. Pure jealousy... MJ On 17 Dec 2007 at 14:48, Dennis Clark wrote: > Pay no attention to the "assembly uber alles" dinosaurs out there, C is > o

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