Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Bjorn Helgaas
... I find it irritating as well. I think the time is right for open-source color management and profiling tools. Little cms seems like it has a lot of the
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Re: [Digital BW] Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Ernst Dinkla
... Be aware of one thing. the old HP penplotters came in two variations. The serial driven and an odd parallel type used in labaratories with a special daisy
Re: syringe maint.
2005-12-09 by Greg
... I ... www.weink.com www.inksupply.com
Re: [Digital BW] Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Greg
... That s a good idea! I had thought of building something out of an old scanner or printer and a microcontroller, but the plotter idea is even better. I just
Re: [Digital BW] i1 Match 3.4
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Interesting. Whenever I send an email to GM support it is answered that day. Very helpful.
i1 Match 3.4
2005-12-09 by Greg
One of the reasons for this was to get the iO properly supported, and to get the editor tweaks out since they messed that up the first time around. I only
[Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Greg
... I think the long path could be automated with a good database software, but that is beyond me. Little CMS is very close to being able to use a measurement
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles - Renting
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
You can rent it by going to a profiling service of which there are many. That s fully within the license conditions. As for wanting to learn how to make
Re: 2200 vs. 2400 (Qimage challenge)
2005-12-09 by David Keenan
... Ernst -- I see where you might be going with this... The image file I used in both cases is large, 117MB. Dave. -- David Keenan, ausdlk@swbell.net on
Re: [Digital BW] Max Black reading with Epson k2 and k3 compared
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Yes I believe that is what I said. ;-) Now if only I could get my hands on some of those Nanochromes...If the black density is over 2 with longevity
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Not at all. Just acknowledge the generosity involved in something provided for free or near free. And don t confuse it with democracy.
Re: [Digital BW] Max Black reading with Epson k2 and k3 compared
2005-12-09 by john dean
So, the answer is no change in DMax with K3 Matte black but there is improvement with the Photo black, or what? I m not that worried about it, I m just
Re: [Digital BW] Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
... Not sure but from what I see it is a row number limitation. Easy to test by making different reference files in a text editor and trying them. You d have
Re: [Digital BW] Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Ernst Dinkla
... I have changed an HP pen plotter to drive the SpectroCam. Will put the pros and cons of that on my website one day. ... Making a longer ruler would work
Re: [Digital BW] syringe maint.
2005-12-09 by Edward Wiseman
Bruce.. You MAY be due for a new one.. However what I have done that seems to work quite well is to remove the plunger, spray some silicone spray lubricant
syringe maint.
2005-12-09 by hogarth@snappydsl.net
Years ago, I bought a 60ml syringe from somewhere - MediaStreet maybe? It s purpose is to load ink carts. When I started using PiezoTones with my 7600, you
photoshop assistants for this Saturday, NYC area
2005-12-09 by GJ Kunze
Hi, I need two people to do photoshop work at an event in the NYC area this Saturday night. Anyone know where to advertise for same in such a hurry? please
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles - Renting
2005-12-09 by Dennis Dowling
12/9/05 10:02 AM: stevekale@btinternet.com (Steve Kale) apparently typed... ... Funny, I was just about to ask if there are any photo equipment shops that rent
Re: [Digital BW] Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Actually it s simpler than that. I took a flyer and tried it - reading 128 rows of patches is not a lot of fun. I wouldn t dream of offering a profiling
Re: [Digital BW] Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Ernst Dinkla
... Colorport could transform the target lay-out for you so can use it with Match. 27 patches per row instead of 32. To get the new lay-out you can use the
Bill Atkinson's Target Reference Files
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Sorry for posting this here but I d prefer the conversation to be a little further away from public colour forums for reasons which will become apparent.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Ernst Dinkla
... The SpectroCam comes with several tools including one for reading different targets. There s no restriction on distributing the measurements as far as I
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Too quick. From the install readme it doesn t look like they ve incorporated those yet. :-(
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
I must say I find the licence perfectly sensible. Else we could simply rent one out to anyone who wants it. Then there wouldn t be anything to rent because
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
H thanks for the heads up on that. 3.4 should now have the updates incorporated into PM5.05 earlier in the week. License seems pretty clear and I suspect/hope
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
Perceptual is.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
That s not democracy, that s charity. Never confuse the two.
Re: [Digital BW] Max Black reading with Epson k2 and k3 compared
2005-12-09 by Steve Kale
John The Matte black ink is exactly the same. There is improvement in the OK ink. Steve
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Ernst Dinkla
... Asked Mike for Spectrometer input and got no answer. Thought about that path too. But it is a long way. -- Ernst Dinkla www.pigment-print.com (
Re: [Digital BW] Re: 2200 vs. 2400 (Qimage challenge)
2005-12-09 by Ernst Dinkla
... What is the size of the file you are feeding both methods with ? Ernst -- -- Ernst Dinkla www.pigment-print.com ( unvollendet )
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Bert Katzung
I m a novice in the whole profile arena, but this thread has reduced my enthusiasm for getting a GMB device of any sort (I gather they make the eye-1?) from
Re: Just got my UT-R2 inks for my R220: great on EEM, pb on Alpha
2005-12-09 by timeexposure
Alpha Cellulose from the Paul Roark Sample paper pack. Couldn t find the profile and trid the one from Rag. I guess you tried it, you speak about it in the
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Greg
And just installed the Profiler 4.8 update, so here is the license for that product: Profile use Defined. For purposes of this Agreement, the term Profile
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Greg
Just installed the Match 3.4 update, and grabbed the license to a file. If anyone wants the complete license, contact me off list. Here is the important part
Re: 2200 vs. 2400 (Qimage challenge)
2005-12-09 by David Keenan
... Yes, I own Qimage. I did as you suggested. I printed an ~8.5x11 print on Epson Premium Luster using Photoshop CS at 1440 and 2880 dpi on my Epson R2400
Re: HP 24 inch printer
2005-12-09 by pavvelc
... It seems too good to be true...about $1300 - it s 1600 less then Epsons version... ... good place to find answers:
RE: [Digital BW] Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Paul D. DeRocco
... So what? You can t use the software without the hardware, so there s no issue of being able to distribute bootleg copies of the software to everyone. The
[Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Greg
... difference in how good the profile is that a piece of software turns out. It s not cut and dried . There are qualitative decissions that must be made in
Re: [Digital BW] Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by John Hollenberg
... sharing, ... Not a good analogy. It isn t the hardware device you used that limits you, it is the software you used to make the profile.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Tom Baker
Actually, it s the program designers that really make the difference in how good the profile is that a piece of software turns out. It s not cut and dried .
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by john dean
That makes sense Roy, that it is their software package that is being restricted, not the capability of the measuring device. Right, that would be the
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Greg
... needs ... Little CMS could/has be/been modified to work with measurements taken from a spectro. SDK kits can be had for free from GMB and Xrite. There are
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Tom Baker
That s also the way my license agreement with the Xrite software reads. It s not just printer profiles, either. It extends to any profile you make with their
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Tom Baker
It s not the meter that has the license, it s the software that makes the profile. And, it s very complicated software. If it weren t, everybody be writing
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Roy Harrington
The way I read their agreement is that generic profiles are the ones restricted unless you ve paid for a special more expensive license. Custom profiles by a
RE: [Digital BW] Just got my UT-R2 inks for my R220: great on EEM, pb on Alpha
2005-12-09 by Paul Roark
Francois, ... What paper do you mean by Alpha Cellulose? I m not sure I ve made any profiles for it. For matte papers you might want to try making your own
RE: [Digital BW] Question for Paul Roark (C86 EZ curves)
2005-12-09 by Paul Roark
Mitch, ... This is a Transfer Function, not a image adjustment curve. I was able to open it in CS2 and re-save it as a curve. I ll send it off list. Let me
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by dlruckus
Why not just market the software that will work with anyones spectro? Much easier. Little to no manufacturing cost. He has already done the work for B&W.
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by john dean
Exactly Greg, Atkinson isn t nieve, he s been around the block. I don t know what the big deal is though, a generic profile isn t a cusom profile and never
Re: Sharing EyeOne Profiles
2005-12-09 by Greg
... I would suggest being discrete and not posting them openly. If they take you to court, they will win since you accepted the license agreement that says you