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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-07 by Tim Stinchcombe

Hi All, I'll throw in my thoughts on this one: On the size issue, yes, small VU meters are available, but for reading a DC level, I would suggest a sizeable centre-zero meter movement would be better. VU meters generally monitor a rapidly changing level , and all you want/need fr

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Re: attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by klamb000

My multimeter is digital, and hence, reads positive and negative voltages quite happily. That said, I'd rather have a meter module from Doepfer than one of my own DIY hacks. What I'd like is a 12HP module with an analog VU style meter (prerefably backlit), and a couple of passive

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Re: attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by Joe Buechler

Hi ingo > maybe i don't get it, but my multimeter reads negative values. Neither of mine do. What manufacturer, model, source? Joe

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by Bakis Sirros

hi florian, it's true that the analogue systems vu-meter costs about 150 euros(99 GBP).this module,also, has a built-in inverter.but i think that doepfer might make one that costs less(100 euros?).ok,i know that you can buy one in the shops for 20 euros,but,again,it won't be a be

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-07 by Bakis Sirros

hi selfosc, i think 12-18hp would be nice!in order to fit a decent sizd vu-meter you need 12hp for sure... bakis. --- selfoscillate wrote: > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" > wrote: > > Hi se > > > > > same with me, but a single meter would be enough > for me.

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Re: attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by selfoscillate

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" wrote: > To me, the two main reasons for a meter module vs a multimeter (I own > two multimeters). > > The first is to be able to have bipolar scale. Remember, this whole > discussion started when I mentioned using my A170 as a

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-07 by Joe Buechler

> but there this is another interesting question. what size should > the meters have? what is the best compromise regarding > space requirement and readability? i think maybe 12hp is better than > 8hp, but i'm not sure. any suggestions? The VU meters on my Behringer EQ would fit

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Re: attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by Joe Buechler

To me, the two main reasons for a meter module vs a multimeter (I own two multimeters). The first is to be able to have bipolar scale. Remember, this whole discussion started when I mentioned using my A170 as a "meter module", which is useful because you can see when a CV goes po

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A107 poll ends in two days!!!

2003-05-07 by synth_freak_2000

hi list, the a107 filter sequence programming poll ends in two days!!!!!! please,vote if you haven't already!:-) thank you, bakis. [doepfer_a100] group owner

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by Florian Anwander

Hi Andreas > Here you go Florian... my reasons for a digital display. > a simple 8digit display is more expenisve than a analog display. I own a You misunderstood me: I asked why you want a meter at all. I did not ask for analog or digital. To my humble opinion: if Dieter really

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Re: attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by selfoscillate

> If I were an a**hole, I'd go to Conrad, buy the multimeter, get it out of > the case, switch the selector to 0-20V, mount it behind a DOEPFER- like > front plate, connect the connectors with a jack in the frontplate and sell > it for 200EUR (hey I am not Doepfer, for me its mor

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Re: attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-07 by selfoscillate

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" wrote: > Here you go Florian... my reasons for a digital display. > > Simply because I don't manufacture devices - I use them, so I don't know if > a simple 8digit display is more expenisve than a analog display. I own a > m

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-07 by selfoscillate

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" wrote: > Hi se > > > same with me, but a single meter would be enough for me. > > if there is a need for two meters, we can buy two > > modules. this would save space and money, if only > > one meter is needed. > > Agree, but it

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-06 by Andreas Lindholm

Here you go Florian... my reasons for a digital display. Simply because I don't manufacture devices - I use them, so I don't know if a simple 8digit display is more expenisve than a analog display. I own a mulitmeter but it doesn't handle minijacks and it is very fuzzy to measure

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-06 by Florian Anwander

Andreas one question: why do you ask for a quite expensive digital VU-Meter module, when each electronic store sells a multi-meter much(!!) cheaper? And btw, the multi meter is a very basic tool that should be owned by electronic musician. Florian

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-06 by Andreas Lindholm

Now I did that.. damn hit the button to fast thing. To make it easier to understand what I am saying look at this http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ANy3Pgd9wYp_mJWdAvRRhZHn64_edIXVdwgMMXstl12r70E7WJfUD17YsmfoKQurCy5jDinSYNLPz-19/a137v2.gif and picture it with any kind of VU meter on t

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attenuators and vu-meters

2003-05-06 by Andreas Lindholm

I quite honestly doesn't have a clue about how much more a VU meter with attunuators would cost compared to one without, but it gotta cost more simple cause it involves a few jacks and pots. look at the 180 which basicly is nothing. I totally agree with you lot that separate modu

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-06 by Joe Buechler

Hi se > same with me, but a single meter would be enough for me. > if there is a need for two meters, we can buy two > modules. this would save space and money, if only > one meter is needed. Agree, but it might be possible to get two meters into an 8HP module at low cost. If so

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If I were king..

2003-05-06 by Tommy DOG

The next modules I would like to see are the SOU and a basic VU meter.

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-06 by Bakis Sirros

agree... bakis. --- selfoscillate wrote: > > i don't think that dieter wants to develop two > different vu-meters. the "high-end" version will > still be cheap enough. > > best wishes > > self oscillate > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas > Lindholm" > wrote: > >

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-06 by klamb000

I second that. Regards, Kevin --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros wrote: > agree... > bakis. > > > --- selfoscillate wrote: > > > > i don't think that dieter wants to develop two > > different vu-meters. the "high-end" version will > > still be cheap enough. > > > >

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-06 by selfoscillate

i don't think that dieter wants to develop two different vu-meters. the "high-end" version will still be cheap enough. best wishes self oscillate --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" wrote: > The more technological aspects of this I don't really get, but audio

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-06 by selfoscillate

same with me, but a single meter would be enough for me. if there is a need for two meters, we can buy two modules. this would save space and money, if only one meter is needed. buffered outputs would be nice too (2 normal outs and one inverted out). the moving coil meter is accu

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by Andreas Lindholm

The more technological aspects of this I don't really get, but audio capable is also nice. But as I see it it makes for a nice "high-end "version. I think that would make sense for doepfer to make a basic version and a high end version (with attenuator as always ;) /Andreas -----

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Re: VU-meter and attentuator

2003-05-05 by jmaddocks1975

This module is exactly what i posted on my diy website! costs next to nothing to make and easy, needs no power just soldering. Making it backlit is again very easy. I`ve made 2 of them for less than 20pounds, so if doepfer want to sell them they have to be very cheap or offer som

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by Bakis Sirros

hey joe, i want one like yours,too:-) bakis. --- Joe Buechler wrote: > I'd like it to be a moving coil analog meter, and > illuminated. I'd > probably use it most for monitoring control > voltages, so I'd like it > to be DC-coupled, linear, with a positive/negative > display. It

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VU-meter and attentuator

2003-05-05 by Andreas Lindholm

The reason that I favour the mixed module so much is because you could (as proposed in my last design-sketch) attenuate a signal to the desired level while monitoring it. Very precis and efficient (best with digital dispaly ;). That would make it far more useful than just telling

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by Bakis Sirros

hi kevin, backlit would be great,indeed.... bakis. --- klamb000 wrote: > Me too. I'd like that's backlit. I think one shoud > have at least 2. > > Regards, > Kevin > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" > > wrote: > > > > hello bakis, > > > > yes, you are right

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new ending date for the a107 filter sequence programming poll!!!

2003-05-05 by Bakis Sirros

hi list, i will end this poll on the 9th of may.(doepfer told me that they want to proceed with this mdule!).please vote while it's still open. thanks, bakis. ===== synthfreak(parallel worlds) athens-greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner __________________________________ Do you Yaho

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by klamb000

Count me in again. Joe's idea wins so far. Regards, Kevin --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros wrote: > hey joe, > i want one like yours,too:-) > bakis. > > > --- Joe Buechler wrote: > > I'd like it to be a moving coil analog meter, and > > illuminated. I'd > > proba

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by Joe Buechler

I'd like it to be a moving coil analog meter, and illuminated. I'd probably use it most for monitoring control voltages, so I'd like it to be DC-coupled, linear, with a positive/negative display. It would be ideal if it could also be switched to an audio scale, AC-coupled exponen

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by klamb000

Me too. I'd like that's backlit. I think one shoud have at least 2. Regards, Kevin --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "selfoscillate" wrote: > > hello bakis, > > yes, you are right ;-) > i would also prefer a doepfer-meter. > > best wishes > > self oscillate > > p.s. by the way

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by Bakis Sirros

hi selfosc, the selector sounds excellent!especially the vca overdrive function makes some awesome sounds!BUT,i really cannot tell that is sounds better than my(cheaper)a100...just different.ok,it sounds fat,but instead of three selector vco's,you can use four a110 in your a100.i

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by selfoscillate

hello bakis, yes, you are right ;-) i would also prefer a doepfer-meter. best wishes self oscillate p.s. by the way, how do you like the technosaurus? does it really sound that good compared to other modulars? i never gave it a try because i find it is too expensive. --- In Doepf

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by Bakis Sirros

hi self-osc, no!.the doepfer A1?? vu-meter should be the best choise ;-) bakis. --- selfoscillate wrote: > > the analogue solutions vu-meter isn't available > anymore. > the analogue systems vu-meter should be a better > choice. > > best wishes > > self oscillate > > > --- In Doe

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-05 by selfoscillate

the analogue solutions vu-meter isn't available anymore. the analogue systems vu-meter should be a better choice. best wishes self oscillate --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "unknown freak" wrote: > Have you considered getting Analogue Solutions' VU module? It would blend > r

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-04 by Bakis Sirros

hello, i have it but i would much prefer a doepfer one.the an.sol. module is in my concussor system... also,it is a very,very cheap vu-meter.it has a dark green color that is really difficult to see.i would prefer something like the AS vu-meter (or the vcs3 meter)that's white,mor

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-04 by unknown freak

Have you considered getting Analogue Solutions' VU module? It would blend right into your rack. > -----Original Message----- > From: Bakis Sirros [mailto:synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 4:56 PM > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a1

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-04 by Bakis Sirros

hi list, isn't it sad to try to figure out what's going on inside the a100 by watching the a170 or a185 or a175...little leds???(btw,i do the same...).that's why i have always proposed that we need a vu-meter module.so,if you think you need one(like i do)vote in the vu-meter poll

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-04 by Joe Buechler

Timothy, you're not the only one who needs to correct himself five minutes after posting :-) That's how long it took me, adjusting the voltage from an A176 CV Source, and watching the LEDs on an A170, to convince myself that the A136 does indeed process the A, +A, and -A paths in

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-04 by Joe Buechler

Timothy, the A136 User's manual says that the signal is split into three parts, but no signal flow diagram is provided. (This is only the least of the problems with the A136 documentation). The signal diagram on the module front panel suggests that the "A" gain is applied BEFORE

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-04 by Tim Stinchcombe

Hi Joe, > If the positive/negative gain isn't an issue, couldn't you just route > the audio thru an A132 VCA and get voltage control of the gain that > way? Internally in the A-136 the signal is split into three paths, and the 'A' gain knob affects just one of these, and it's the

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-03 by Joe Buechler

If the positive/negative gain isn't an issue, couldn't you just route the audio thru an A132 VCA and get voltage control of the gain that way? --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe" wrote: > Hi Ethan, > > > I own an A136 and have been using it more lately and it o

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Re: A-136 CV question

2003-05-03 by Tim Stinchcombe

Hi Ethan, > I own an A136 and have been using it more lately and it occured to me > that the most radical timbre changes are caued by turning the center > "A" knob. Does anybody know why this feature is not voltage > controllable? Also, is there a simple mod to add a "CV in" to t

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new photos...

2003-05-02 by Bakis Sirros

hi list, i posted some updated photos in the photos section(parallel worlds album),if anyone is interested... bakis. ===== synthfreak(parallel worlds) athens-greece [Doepfer_a100] group owner __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Surround mxing on A100

2003-05-02 by davevosh@aol.com

In a message dated 5/2/2003 4:52:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com writes: > Helps? None at all actually ;) andreas, sorry, hope you find a solution to the problem. if so, be sure to post it as i`m sure others would be interested ! best, dave [Non-text por

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