QTR-Quadtone RIP

Hallo
I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a 4800 using Piezo K7
inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of paper with each
print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9 inch from the
correct starting point of the print. Using the EPSON driver and
Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer to pull in the roll
4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that the print comes out
with correct margins.

Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll inwards at all and I
lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With Piezo K7 inks I cannot
use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)

Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone point me in the
right direction?

Juraj

I'll take a look at the problem with my set up when I get back to the studio
next week if nobody speaks up. My guess would be to look at the default
setting in the Printer driver through Windows/ Start/ Printers and Faxes/
Epson 4800 Properties and see if you have it set up for cut roll. 

 

Eric 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

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http://ericneilsenphotography.com

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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jurajlipscher
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 8:06 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Wasting paper on a roll

 

Hallo
I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a 4800 using Piezo K7
inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of paper with each
print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9 inch from the
correct starting point of the print. Using the EPSON driver and
Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer to pull in the roll
4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that the print comes out
with correct margins.

Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll inwards at all and I
lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With Piezo K7 inks I cannot
use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)

Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone point me in the
right direction?

Juraj

 



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The main thing to check is that the selection on the printer itself agrees
with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say Roll Paper for it
to work correctly.

Roy

On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:

> Hallo
> I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a 4800 using Piezo K7
> inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of paper with each
> print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9 inch from the
> correct starting point of the print. Using the EPSON driver and
> Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer to pull in the roll
> 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that the print comes out
> with correct margins.
>
> Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll inwards at all and I
> lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
>
> Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone point me in the
> right direction?
>
> Juraj
>
>
>


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Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
my 2400?  I'll make sure both are set to roll
paper....

Dave
--- Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:

> The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> printer itself agrees
> with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say
> Roll Paper for it
> to work correctly.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> <juraj@...> wrote:
> 
> > Hallo
> > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> 4800 using Piezo K7
> > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> paper with each
> > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> inch from the
> > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> EPSON driver and
> > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> to pull in the roll
> > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> the print comes out
> > with correct margins.
> >
> > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> inwards at all and I
> > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> > use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
> >
> > Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone
> point me in the
> > right direction?
> >
> > Juraj
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> 
> 



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Well the R2400 doesn't have a front panel to select roll paper feed.
But it is also important that the selection in QTRgui matches where you put
the
paper i.e. if you put paper in the manual slot in back you must select the
corresponding Manual Roll selection in QTRgui;   and if you have roll paper
in a printer that you select a roll paper selection in QTRgui.

Roy

On Dec 1, 2007 12:47 PM, David Miller <daveinmoscow@...> wrote:

> Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
> my 2400?  I'll make sure both are set to roll
> paper....
>
> Dave
> --- Roy Harrington < roy@...> wrote:
>
> > The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> > printer itself agrees
> > with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say
> > Roll Paper for it
> > to work correctly.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> > <juraj@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hallo
> > > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> > 4800 using Piezo K7
> > > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> > paper with each
> > > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> > inch from the
> > > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> > EPSON driver and
> > > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> > to pull in the roll
> > > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> > the print comes out
> > > with correct margins.
> > >
> > > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> > inwards at all and I
> > > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> > Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> > > use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone
> > point me in the
> > > right direction?
> > >
> > > Juraj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > removed]
> >
> >
>
>
>
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I take my roll down to Kinkos (they all have large 36" + paper cutters) and
I spend an hour or so cutting stock for all the sizes that I commonly use.

 

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Hallo everybody

I have tried the following remedies:

1. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the printer
display and in QTR.
2. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the WINDOWS ->
System -> Printers ->4800 -> Properties as the standard setting and
also in QTR.
3. I tried to transport the paper on the roll backwards using the
appropriate button on the printer display. I was able to transoprt the
paper backwards but it was pulled out again after the "print" command
has been given.

Alas none of these brought any improvement and I am still loosing the
same amount of paper.

Any new ideas anybody?

Thank you
Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Well the R2400 doesn't have a front panel to select roll paper feed.
> But it is also important that the selection in QTRgui matches where
you put
> the
> paper i.e. if you put paper in the manual slot in back you must
select the
> corresponding Manual Roll selection in QTRgui;   and if you have
roll paper
> in a printer that you select a roll paper selection in QTRgui.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Dec 1, 2007 12:47 PM, David Miller <daveinmoscow@...> wrote:
> 
> > Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
> > my 2400?  I'll make sure both are set to roll
> > paper....
> >
> > Dave
> > --- Roy Harrington < roy@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> > > printer itself agrees
> > > with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say
> > > Roll Paper for it
> > > to work correctly.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> > > <juraj@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hallo
> > > > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> > > 4800 using Piezo K7
> > > > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> > > paper with each
> > > > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> > > inch from the
> > > > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> > > EPSON driver and
> > > > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> > > to pull in the roll
> > > > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> > > the print comes out
> > > > with correct margins.
> > > >
> > > > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> > > inwards at all and I
> > > > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> > > Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> > > > use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone
> > > point me in the
> > > > right direction?
> > > >
> > > > Juraj
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > removed]
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

Hi Juraj,
(1) should be all that is necessary.

Are you using custom page sizes?  Could you have the width & length
reversed?
Width is across the paper as it comes out of the printer (direction of ink
head travel).
Length is along the feed direction.
Are you doing Landscape (rotates image) or Portrait?
Another possibility is if a paper size is too small it reverts to default
which is Letter.
The minimum size is 7x7inches on the 4800 I'm pretty sure.

Roy

On Dec 2, 2007 10:43 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:

> Hallo everybody
>
> I have tried the following remedies:
>
> 1. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the printer
> display and in QTR.
> 2. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the WINDOWS ->
> System -> Printers ->4800 -> Properties as the standard setting and
> also in QTR.
> 3. I tried to transport the paper on the roll backwards using the
> appropriate button on the printer display. I was able to transoprt the
> paper backwards but it was pulled out again after the "print" command
> has been given.
>
> Alas none of these brought any improvement and I am still loosing the
> same amount of paper.
>
> Any new ideas anybody?
>
> Thank you
> Juraj
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
> >
> > Well the R2400 doesn't have a front panel to select roll paper feed.
> > But it is also important that the selection in QTRgui matches where
> you put
> > the
> > paper i.e. if you put paper in the manual slot in back you must
> select the
> > corresponding Manual Roll selection in QTRgui;   and if you have
> roll paper
> > in a printer that you select a roll paper selection in QTRgui.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Dec 1, 2007 12:47 PM, David Miller <daveinmoscow@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
> > > my 2400?  I'll make sure both are set to roll
> > > paper....
> > >
> > > Dave
> > > --- Roy Harrington < roy@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> > > > printer itself agrees
> > > > with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say
> > > > Roll Paper for it
> > > > to work correctly.
> > > >
> > > > Roy
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> > > > <juraj@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hallo
> > > > > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> > > > 4800 using Piezo K7
> > > > > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> > > > paper with each
> > > > > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> > > > inch from the
> > > > > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> > > > EPSON driver and
> > > > > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> > > > to pull in the roll
> > > > > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> > > > the print comes out
> > > > > with correct margins.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> > > > inwards at all and I
> > > > > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> > > > Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> > > > > use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone
> > > > point me in the
> > > > > right direction?
> > > > >
> > > > > Juraj
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
> > > > removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Hi Roy

Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.

I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
4800 printer) to no avail.

Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Juraj,
> (1) should be all that is necessary.
> 
> Are you using custom page sizes?  Could you have the width & length
> reversed?
> Width is across the paper as it comes out of the printer (direction
of ink
> head travel).
> Length is along the feed direction.
> Are you doing Landscape (rotates image) or Portrait?
> Another possibility is if a paper size is too small it reverts to
default
> which is Letter.
> The minimum size is 7x7inches on the 4800 I'm pretty sure.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Dec 2, 2007 10:43 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:
> 
> > Hallo everybody
> >
> > I have tried the following remedies:
> >
> > 1. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the printer
> > display and in QTR.
> > 2. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the WINDOWS ->
> > System -> Printers ->4800 -> Properties as the standard setting and
> > also in QTR.
> > 3. I tried to transport the paper on the roll backwards using the
> > appropriate button on the printer display. I was able to transoprt the
> > paper backwards but it was pulled out again after the "print" command
> > has been given.
> >
> > Alas none of these brought any improvement and I am still loosing the
> > same amount of paper.
> >
> > Any new ideas anybody?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Juraj
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well the R2400 doesn't have a front panel to select roll paper feed.
> > > But it is also important that the selection in QTRgui matches where
> > you put
> > > the
> > > paper i.e. if you put paper in the manual slot in back you must
> > select the
> > > corresponding Manual Roll selection in QTRgui;   and if you have
> > roll paper
> > > in a printer that you select a roll paper selection in QTRgui.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > On Dec 1, 2007 12:47 PM, David Miller <daveinmoscow@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
> > > > my 2400?  I'll make sure both are set to roll
> > > > paper....
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > --- Roy Harrington < roy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> > > > > printer itself agrees
> > > > > with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say
> > > > > Roll Paper for it
> > > > > to work correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> > > > > <juraj@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hallo
> > > > > > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> > > > > 4800 using Piezo K7
> > > > > > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> > > > > paper with each
> > > > > > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> > > > > inch from the
> > > > > > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> > > > > EPSON driver and
> > > > > > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> > > > > to pull in the roll
> > > > > > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> > > > > the print comes out
> > > > > > with correct margins.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> > > > > inwards at all and I
> > > > > > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> > > > > Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> > > > > > use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone
> > > > > point me in the
> > > > > > right direction?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Juraj
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> >
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Juraj, There have been posts on other list mentioning a problem with the CS3
upgrade that is causing a problem with roll paper. I am headed in to the
studio shortly and will try your issues out and see what happens. I run a
4800 and can use QTR to drive an image, I also have CS3. 

 

Eric 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

http://e.neilsen.home.att.net

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

Skype ejprinter

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From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jurajlipscher
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll

 

Hi Roy

Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.

I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
4800 printer) to no avail.

Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
"Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Juraj,
> (1) should be all that is necessary.
> 
> Are you using custom page sizes? Could you have the width & length
> reversed?
> Width is across the paper as it comes out of the printer (direction
of ink
> head travel).
> Length is along the feed direction.
> Are you doing Landscape (rotates image) or Portrait?
> Another possibility is if a paper size is too small it reverts to
default
> which is Letter.
> The minimum size is 7x7inches on the 4800 I'm pretty sure.
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Dec 2, 2007 10:43 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:
> 
> > Hallo everybody
> >
> > I have tried the following remedies:
> >
> > 1. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the printer
> > display and in QTR.
> > 2. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the WINDOWS ->
> > System -> Printers ->4800 -> Properties as the standard setting and
> > also in QTR.
> > 3. I tried to transport the paper on the roll backwards using the
> > appropriate button on the printer display. I was able to transoprt the
> > paper backwards but it was pulled out again after the "print" command
> > has been given.
> >
> > Alas none of these brought any improvement and I am still loosing the
> > same amount of paper.
> >
> > Any new ideas anybody?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Juraj
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Well the R2400 doesn't have a front panel to select roll paper feed.
> > > But it is also important that the selection in QTRgui matches where
> > you put
> > > the
> > > paper i.e. if you put paper in the manual slot in back you must
> > select the
> > > corresponding Manual Roll selection in QTRgui; and if you have
> > roll paper
> > > in a printer that you select a roll paper selection in QTRgui.
> > >
> > > Roy
> > >
> > > On Dec 1, 2007 12:47 PM, David Miller <daveinmoscow@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
> > > > my 2400? I'll make sure both are set to roll
> > > > paper....
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > --- Roy Harrington < roy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> > > > > printer itself agrees
> > > > > with the selection in QTRgui. They both should say
> > > > > Roll Paper for it
> > > > > to work correctly.
> > > > >
> > > > > Roy
> > > > >
> > > > > On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> > > > > <juraj@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hallo
> > > > > > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> > > > > 4800 using Piezo K7
> > > > > > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> > > > > paper with each
> > > > > > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> > > > > inch from the
> > > > > > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> > > > > EPSON driver and
> > > > > > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> > > > > to pull in the roll
> > > > > > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> > > > > the print comes out
> > > > > > with correct margins.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> > > > > inwards at all and I
> > > > > > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> > > > > Piezo K7 inks I cannot
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Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It drew the
paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through QTR. I
used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and printed
that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the borderless
check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are using a
13" wide print on a 13" wide paper. 

 

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

 

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

SKype ejprinter

 

  _____  

From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jurajlipscher
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll

 

Hi Roy

Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.

I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
4800 printer) to no avail.

Juraj

 



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Hi Juraj,
It sure sounds like you are doing the right thing.
I think the best thing is to get some specific details.

1) Get a screen capture of the QTRgui page right before printing.
2) Print your image.
3) Quit out of QTRgui.
4) Look under \Documents and Settings\yourname\Application Data\QuadToneRIP
   there should be two files:  QTRgui.ini  and QTRlog.txt

Email me the screen capture, the two files QTRgui.ini  and QTRlog.txt, and
what
the result on the paper looks like.  I.e the size of paper and the margins
you got
from the point of view of the image, top, bottom, left and right.

Roy


On Dec 3, 2007 7:05 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:

> Hi Roy
>
> Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
>
> I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> 4800 printer) to no avail.
>
> Juraj
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Juraj,
> > (1) should be all that is necessary.
> >
> > Are you using custom page sizes?  Could you have the width & length
> > reversed?
> > Width is across the paper as it comes out of the printer (direction
> of ink
> > head travel).
> > Length is along the feed direction.
> > Are you doing Landscape (rotates image) or Portrait?
> > Another possibility is if a paper size is too small it reverts to
> default
> > which is Letter.
> > The minimum size is 7x7inches on the 4800 I'm pretty sure.
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Dec 2, 2007 10:43 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Hallo everybody
> > >
> > > I have tried the following remedies:
> > >
> > > 1. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the printer
> > > display and in QTR.
> > > 2. To select the roll feed with automatic cutter on in the WINDOWS ->
> > > System -> Printers ->4800 -> Properties as the standard setting and
> > > also in QTR.
> > > 3. I tried to transport the paper on the roll backwards using the
> > > appropriate button on the printer display. I was able to transoprt the
> > > paper backwards but it was pulled out again after the "print" command
> > > has been given.
> > >
> > > Alas none of these brought any improvement and I am still loosing the
> > > same amount of paper.
> > >
> > > Any new ideas anybody?
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > > Juraj
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well the R2400 doesn't have a front panel to select roll paper feed.
> > > > But it is also important that the selection in QTRgui matches where
> > > you put
> > > > the
> > > > paper i.e. if you put paper in the manual slot in back you must
> > > select the
> > > > corresponding Manual Roll selection in QTRgui;   and if you have
> > > roll paper
> > > > in a printer that you select a roll paper selection in QTRgui.
> > > >
> > > > Roy
> > > >
> > > > On Dec 1, 2007 12:47 PM, David Miller <daveinmoscow@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Will this be the same issue when I use roll paper on
> > > > > my 2400?  I'll make sure both are set to roll
> > > > > paper....
> > > > >
> > > > > Dave
> > > > > --- Roy Harrington < roy@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The main thing to check is that the selection on the
> > > > > > printer itself agrees
> > > > > > with the selection in QTRgui.   They both should say
> > > > > > Roll Paper for it
> > > > > > to work correctly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Roy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Dec 1, 2007 6:05 AM, jurajlipscher
> > > > > > <juraj@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hallo
> > > > > > > I am on WIN XP, QTR 2.5.2.0 and I am printing on a
> > > > > > 4800 using Piezo K7
> > > > > > > inks from a 13" roll. My problem is the waste of
> > > > > > paper with each
> > > > > > > print. The 4800 first positions the roll about 4,9
> > > > > > inch from the
> > > > > > > correct starting point of the print. Using the
> > > > > > EPSON driver and
> > > > > > > Photoshop 'Print with Preview' causes the printer
> > > > > > to pull in the roll
> > > > > > > 4,9 inch inwards before starting to print, so that
> > > > > > the print comes out
> > > > > > > with correct margins.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now using QTR the printer does not pull the roll
> > > > > > inwards at all and I
> > > > > > > lose 4,9 inch of paper with each print. (With
> > > > > > Piezo K7 inks I cannot
> > > > > > > use the Epson driver/Photoshop workflow)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know of any workaround or could anyone
> > > > > > point me in the
> > > > > > > right direction?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Juraj
> > > > > > >
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Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
"to fit" box checked in QTR
I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that 
you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
printer.

Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
drew the
> paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
QTR. I
> used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
printed
> that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
borderless
> check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
using a
> 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper. 
> 
>  
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photo
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> 214 827-8301
> 
>  
> 
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> SKype ejprinter
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On

> Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Roy
> 
> Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> 
> I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> 4800 printer) to no avail.
> 
> Juraj
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Juraj,

I got your data -- all exactly correct.  It all confirms that you are doing
what I expected.

Eric reports that he's not had trouble with his 4800 and I have a 4000 which
is very similar and
not been a problem.  The only unusual thing I see in your case is the 13inch
paper and I
imagine that this may be rarely used.  This being the problem seems like a
long shot but
you never know.

I think you can work around this by making your paper size 17x9.5 instead of
13x9.5.
Naturally you have to adjust the margins because of this and be sure not to
print off the
paper.  The printer may also do a paper size check.  If you get a error on
the printer panel
for this you can disable the check.  On the 4000 its under Menu > Printer
Setup > Paper Size Check.
It's probably similar Just set it to OFF.

In your first post you mentioned that the printer is not pulling in the roll
before printing.  This is
another good observation.  Continue to watch that in the tests.

Thanks,
Roy

On Dec 4, 2007 9:41 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:

>
> Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> "to fit" box checked in QTR
> I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that
> you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> printer.
>
> Juraj
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> >
> > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> drew the
> > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> QTR. I
> > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> printed
> > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> borderless
> > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> using a
> > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> >
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> >
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> >
> > 214 827-8301
> >
> >
> >
> > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> >
> > SKype ejprinter
> >
> >
> >
> >   _____
> >
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Roy
> >
> > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> >
> > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > 4800 printer) to no avail.
> >
> > Juraj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
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Hi Roy

I have done the test with paper size set to 17" but again to no avail.
I have also noticed that the printer is first pulling the paper back
in as it should and then it pushes it out again (as it shouldn't).

best regards & thanks
Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Juraj,
> 
> I got your data -- all exactly correct.  It all confirms that you
are doing
> what I expected.
> 
> Eric reports that he's not had trouble with his 4800 and I have a
4000 which
> is very similar and
> not been a problem.  The only unusual thing I see in your case is
the 13inch
> paper and I
> imagine that this may be rarely used.  This being the problem seems
like a
> long shot but
> you never know.
> 
> I think you can work around this by making your paper size 17x9.5
instead of
> 13x9.5.
> Naturally you have to adjust the margins because of this and be sure
not to
> print off the
> paper.  The printer may also do a paper size check.  If you get a
error on
> the printer panel
> for this you can disable the check.  On the 4000 its under Menu >
Printer
> Setup > Paper Size Check.
> It's probably similar Just set it to OFF.
> 
> In your first post you mentioned that the printer is not pulling in
the roll
> before printing.  This is
> another good observation.  Continue to watch that in the tests.
> 
> Thanks,
> Roy
> 
> On Dec 4, 2007 9:41 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> > of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> > the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> > dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> > borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> > settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> > "to fit" box checked in QTR
> > I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> > that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that
> > you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> > printer.
> >
> > Juraj
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> > drew the
> > > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> > QTR. I
> > > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> > printed
> > > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> > borderless
> > > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> > using a
> > > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > >
> > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > >
> > > Dallas, TX 75226
> > >
> > > 214 827-8301
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> > >
> > > SKype ejprinter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   _____
> > >
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Roy
> > >
> > > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the
whole
> > > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I
am not

> > > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> > >
> > > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > > 4800 printer) to no avail.
> > >
> > > Juraj
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Unfortunately I have CS1 at home where only my 7000 resides. I don't have
any 13" rolls either so I can't try that either unless I just tell it that I
have 13" when I really have 17". That may not really help.

 

What dpi is your file? 360? And is this only happening with one image or any
image sized to 7x8?  However it really sounds more like a setting issue with
the printer. When I have the cutter OFF, there will be extra paper that
stays unprinted at the beginning of the roll. If I want to print close to
the edge, I put it in with the cutter set to ON, and then before printing on
canvas for example, I turn it off before sending the data to be printed.
Works fine. 

 

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

 

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

SKype ejprinter

 

  _____  

From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jurajlipscher
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:41 AM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll

 


Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
"to fit" box checked in QTR
I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that 
you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
printer.

Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
"E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
drew the
> paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
QTR. I
> used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
printed
> that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
borderless
> check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
using a
> 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper. 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photo
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> 214 827-8301
> 
> 
> 
> http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com> hotography.com
> 
> SKype ejprinter
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
On
> Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Roy
> 
> Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> 
> I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> 4800 printer) to no avail.
> 
> Juraj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

 



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I've done essentially the same thing on my 4000 and can't duplicate a
problem.

Eric's idea about cutter ON/OFF on the printer may have merit.  Do you use
both cutter ON & OFF?  Are you changing the setting of this on the printer
panel?
Also are you using the Epson driver immediately prior to QTR?

Have you done any other printing?  Sheet feeding? Other paper sizes?
Does this always happen?

Roy

On Dec 4, 2007 1:55 PM, E Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:

> Unfortunately I have CS1 at home where only my 7000 resides. I don't have
> any 13" rolls either so I can't try that either unless I just tell it that
> I
> have 13" when I really have 17". That may not really help.
>
>
>
> What dpi is your file? 360? And is this only happening with one image or
> any
> image sized to 7x8?  However it really sounds more like a setting issue
> with
> the printer. When I have the cutter OFF, there will be extra paper that
> stays unprinted at the beginning of the roll. If I want to print close to
> the edge, I put it in with the cutter set to ON, and then before printing
> on
> canvas for example, I turn it off before sending the data to be printed.
> Works fine.
>
>
>
> Eric Neilsen Photo
>
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
>
> Dallas, TX 75226
>
> 214 827-8301
>
>
>
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
>
> SKype ejprinter
>
>
>
>  _____
>
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:41 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
>
>
>
>
> Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> "to fit" box checked in QTR
> I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that
> you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> printer.
>
> Juraj
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> ,
> "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> >
> > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> drew the
> > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> QTR. I
> > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> printed
> > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> borderless
> > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> using a
> > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> >
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> >
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> >
> > 214 827-8301
> >
> >
> >
> > http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com> hotography.com
> >
> > SKype ejprinter
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Roy
> >
> > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> >
> > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > 4800 printer) to no avail.
> >
> > Juraj
> >
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Dear Roy

I have been printing with ABW/EPSON Driver for 2 years and I did not
have this problem. Recently I have installed K7 Piezo inks and QTR and
the problem started. Since the ink change I have used the same paper
size, the same print size and I did not use the EPSON driver at all.
And yes this happens every time.

I have not used the cutter off setting yet, this will be my next test.

Thanks again
Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
>
> I've done essentially the same thing on my 4000 and can't duplicate a
> problem.
> 
> Eric's idea about cutter ON/OFF on the printer may have merit.  Do
you use
> both cutter ON & OFF?  Are you changing the setting of this on the
printer
> panel?
> Also are you using the Epson driver immediately prior to QTR?
> 
> Have you done any other printing?  Sheet feeding? Other paper sizes?
> Does this always happen?
> 
> Roy
> 
> On Dec 4, 2007 1:55 PM, E Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunately I have CS1 at home where only my 7000 resides. I
don't have
> > any 13" rolls either so I can't try that either unless I just tell
it that
> > I
> > have 13" when I really have 17". That may not really help.
> >
> >
> >
> > What dpi is your file? 360? And is this only happening with one
image or
> > any
> > image sized to 7x8?  However it really sounds more like a setting
issue
> > with
> > the printer. When I have the cutter OFF, there will be extra paper
that
> > stays unprinted at the beginning of the roll. If I want to print
close to
> > the edge, I put it in with the cutter set to ON, and then before
printing
> > on
> > canvas for example, I turn it off before sending the data to be
printed.
> > Works fine.
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> >
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> >
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> >
> > 214 827-8301
> >
> >
> >
> > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> >
> > SKype ejprinter
> >
> >
> >
> >  _____
> >
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:41 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> > of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> > the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> > dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> > borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> > settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> > "to fit" box checked in QTR
> > I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> > that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that
> > you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> > printer.
> >
> > Juraj
> >
> > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > ,
> > "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> > drew the
> > > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> > QTR. I
> > > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> > printed
> > > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> > borderless
> > > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> > using a
> > > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > >
> > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > >
> > > Dallas, TX 75226
> > >
> > > 214 827-8301
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com>
hotography.com
> > >
> > > SKype ejprinter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Roy
> > >
> > > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the
whole
> > > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I
am not

> > > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> > >
> > > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > > 4800 printer) to no avail.
> > >
> > > Juraj
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Hi Juraj,

The strange thing is that this is the only report I know of like this.
I think you've got to try some different things.  Try the Epson driver
again.
Try the sheet feeder.  Try different paper sizes -- standard and custom.
Who knows, maybe there's a hardware malfunction like a paper sensor.

To narrow down the problem we need to find a scenario that works and one
that fails and get it down to one change.  Right now there's too many
changes
to know what caused it.

Roy

On Dec 5, 2007 1:27 AM, jurajlipscher <juraj@...> wrote:

> Dear Roy
>
> I have been printing with ABW/EPSON Driver for 2 years and I did not
> have this problem. Recently I have installed K7 Piezo inks and QTR and
> the problem started. Since the ink change I have used the same paper
> size, the same print size and I did not use the EPSON driver at all.
> And yes this happens every time.
>
> I have not used the cutter off setting yet, this will be my next test.
>
> Thanks again
> Juraj
>
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington" <roy@...> wrote:
> >
> > I've done essentially the same thing on my 4000 and can't duplicate a
> > problem.
> >
> > Eric's idea about cutter ON/OFF on the printer may have merit.  Do
> you use
> > both cutter ON & OFF?  Are you changing the setting of this on the
> printer
> > panel?
> > Also are you using the Epson driver immediately prior to QTR?
> >
> > Have you done any other printing?  Sheet feeding? Other paper sizes?
> > Does this always happen?
> >
> > Roy
> >
> > On Dec 4, 2007 1:55 PM, E Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Unfortunately I have CS1 at home where only my 7000 resides. I
> don't have
> > > any 13" rolls either so I can't try that either unless I just tell
> it that
> > > I
> > > have 13" when I really have 17". That may not really help.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What dpi is your file? 360? And is this only happening with one
> image or
> > > any
> > > image sized to 7x8?  However it really sounds more like a setting
> issue
> > > with
> > > the printer. When I have the cutter OFF, there will be extra paper
> that
> > > stays unprinted at the beginning of the roll. If I want to print
> close to
> > > the edge, I put it in with the cutter set to ON, and then before
> printing
> > > on
> > > canvas for example, I turn it off before sending the data to be
> printed.
> > > Works fine.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > >
> > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > >
> > > Dallas, TX 75226
> > >
> > > 214 827-8301
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> > >
> > > SKype ejprinter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  _____
> > >
> > > From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:41 AM
> > > To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> > > of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> > > the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> > > dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> > > borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> > > settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> > > "to fit" box checked in QTR
> > > I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> > > that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that
> > > you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> > > printer.
> > >
> > > Juraj
> > >
> > > --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > > ,
> > > "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> > > drew the
> > > > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> > > QTR. I
> > > > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> > > printed
> > > > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> > > borderless
> > > > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> > > using a
> > > > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > > >
> > > > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > > >
> > > > Dallas, TX 75226
> > > >
> > > > 214 827-8301
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com>
> hotography.com
> > > >
> > > > SKype ejprinter
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > yahoogroups.com]
> > > On
> > > > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > > > To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Roy
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > > > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the
> whole
> > > > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I
> am not
> > > > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> > > >
> > > > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > > > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > > > 4800 printer) to no avail.
> > > >
> > > > Juraj
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Eric

My files are 360 dpi and it happens with all images printed on the
roll but not with images printed on a sheet. I have the cutter on all
the time and the only thing I can think of trying would be to print
with the cutter off. But according to your experience this would make
matters worse rather than better.

I will report any hopefully positive results as soon as I know something.

Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com, "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have CS1 at home where only my 7000 resides. I don't
have
> any 13" rolls either so I can't try that either unless I just tell
it that I
> have 13" when I really have 17". That may not really help.
> 
>  
> 
> What dpi is your file? 360? And is this only happening with one
image or any
> image sized to 7x8?  However it really sounds more like a setting
issue with
> the printer. When I have the cutter OFF, there will be extra paper that
> stays unprinted at the beginning of the roll. If I want to print
close to
> the edge, I put it in with the cutter set to ON, and then before
printing on
> canvas for example, I turn it off before sending the data to be printed.
> Works fine. 
> 
>  
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photo
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> 214 827-8301
> 
>  
> 
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> SKype ejprinter
> 
>  
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:41 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> "to fit" box checked in QTR
> I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that 
> you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> printer.
> 
> Juraj
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com,
> "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> >
> > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> drew the
> > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> QTR. I
> > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> printed
> > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> borderless
> > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> using a
> > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > 
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > 
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > 
> > 214 827-8301
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com> hotography.com
> > 
> > SKype ejprinter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com

> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Roy
> > 
> > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
> > 
> > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > 4800 printer) to no avail.
> > 
> > Juraj
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

If your images are only 7x8 and they are printing on a 13x9 paper, why not
change to a 12.5x 8.5 paper size and see if that helps.  Or try this load
the roll as a sheet, then change to roll with cutter on after the sheet is
in. I am with Roy here in that it sounds like a hardware issue. 

 

Good luck

 

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

 

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

SKype ejprinter

 

  _____  

From: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of jurajlipscher
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:19 PM
To: QuadtoneRIP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll

 

Hi Eric

My files are 360 dpi and it happens with all images printed on the
roll but not with images printed on a sheet. I have the cutter on all
the time and the only thing I can think of trying would be to print
with the cutter off. But according to your experience this would make
matters worse rather than better.

I will report any hopefully positive results as soon as I know something.

Juraj

--- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com,
"E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately I have CS1 at home where only my 7000 resides. I don't
have
> any 13" rolls either so I can't try that either unless I just tell
it that I
> have 13" when I really have 17". That may not really help.
> 
> 
> 
> What dpi is your file? 360? And is this only happening with one
image or any
> image sized to 7x8? However it really sounds more like a setting
issue with
> the printer. When I have the cutter OFF, there will be extra paper that
> stays unprinted at the beginning of the roll. If I want to print
close to
> the edge, I put it in with the cutter set to ON, and then before
printing on
> canvas for example, I turn it off before sending the data to be printed.
> Works fine. 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photo
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> 214 827-8301
> 
> 
> 
> http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com> hotography.com
> 
> SKype ejprinter
> 
> 
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
[mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com]
On
> Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 11:41 AM
> To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric, thanks a lot for your help! I have CS 1 so there is no question
> of CS 3 issues. My paper size (13 x 9.5") is set to the full width of
> the 13" roll but my print is smaller than the roll dimensions (print
> dimension = approx. 7 x 8") or in other words I do not print
> borderless and do not have the "borderless" box checked in the driver
> settings. As my print is smaller than the paper size I cannot have the
> "to fit" box checked in QTR
> I have just emailed Roy all the data he requested from me and hope
> that the problem is going to be resolved - even more so seeing that 
> you do not experience any problems in this direction with the same
> printer.
> 
> Juraj
> 
> --- In QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com,
> "E Neilsen" <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> >
> > Juraj, I just printed an image with my 4800 with roll cutter on. It
> drew the
> > paper back in just like it should both with CS3 direct and through
> QTR. I
> > used a 17" roll. The paper size was custom 17x14 as a portrait and
> printed
> > that way. I did have a "to fit" image box checked. You have the
> borderless
> > check box ticked in the properties for the Epson driver? As you are
> using a
> > 13" wide print on a 13" wide paper. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Eric Neilsen Photo
> > 
> > 4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
> > 
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > 
> > 214 827-8301
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenp
<http://ericneilsenphotography.com> hotography.com> hotography.com
> > 
> > SKype ejprinter
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > From: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of jurajlipscher
> > Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 9:06 AM
> > To: QuadtoneRIP@ <mailto:QuadtoneRIP%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [QuadtoneRIP] Re: Wasting paper on a roll
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Roy
> > 
> > Thank you for your fast responses!! I am printing on a 13" roll in
> > portrait orientation. My paper size is custom: width = 13" (the whole
> > width of the roll) and length = 9,45". So as far as I can see I am not
> > using too small a paper size and the orientation is correct too.
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> > I also tried to use the "banner roll" setting instead of "roll" with
> > the option "save paper" turned on (in the WINDOWS settings for the
> > 4800 printer) to no avail.
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> > Juraj
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