Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
What would be a good test image? I just through one out there that might be troublesome since is had a lot of full saturation colors. Randy
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Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Turns out little or none of your test image is outside AdobeRGB, so it may not matter, though converting it to AdobeRGb is still a more reasonable starting
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
A new test image has been posted in adobe rgb replacing the old prophoto Randy
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
I only used prophoto because that way all available data would be there to convert to. My main workflow is srgb because that is what my lab uses. I will
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... No, Prophoto offers a color gamut larger than human vision, with lots of bizarre issues at those non-viewable corners. Convert to 8 bit using AdobeRGB, and
Re: [colorvision_group] working with fuji frontier
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... PrintFIX PRO makes great Frontier profiles. With any lab, there are issues of how you send file to it (from files sent to a folder, or direct application
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... A scanner-based profile does not have a very clear idea about out of gamut colors, as it does not have spectro-level accuracy. So trying to see out of
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Thats ONE of the issues here, and one that is out of ColorVision s hands since we don t build the CMMs, only the profiles. As I said earlier, a hack for
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
Hi CD, What I have found with the other intents is that the blues still posterize but get more saturated instead of the other extreme with saturation intent
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Given the range of user perceptions of this issue its a bit like that book that everyone is always asking me to write... when I get into the details, they
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Well... thats a tough one. Its doing ONE job, which is representing the print on screen in SoftProof. As the posts on the topic here show, people also have
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Given that there have been a total of two or three users commenting about it so far (and those just recently), it hasn t been at the top of the priority
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Yes... C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager ColorVision, Inc. CDTobie@colorvision.com www.colorvision.com
Re: [colorvision_group] Media check mystery
2006-03-19 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Newer Epson printer models are much less prone to variation, due to better drivers, finer dots, improved inks, more effective papers, etc. Its still worth
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
Try this for a test image. Background painted with full saturation industrial pigments. 5d image shot in Raw, converted to 8 bit tiff prophoto rgb with
working with fuji frontier
2006-03-19 by hanson102
i m planning to get a printfix pro suite. has anyone use this to calibrate against fuji frontier machines? how is it? any problems to anticipate? thanks in
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by mamemarquees
I guess I don t really understand... I would expect the softproof to barely change what I see when I don t softproof. I have used Profile prism in the past
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Tom
... color ... tones ... uses ... know so ... What if collectively we come up with a somewhat harsher test image. One that stresses the portions where we are
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Tom
... Sounds delicious! Glad you had a good time :-)
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
We ended up going down to the church for community dinner. Nothing like Salisbury steak, baked potatoes and green beans to cheer a fella up. : ) Randy
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by randy
Hello everyone, I can handle a little color shift here and there. I do 90% custom portraits for a living and the rest editorial, so exact color is not
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Tom
... software - ... where he ... If anyone wants I have a sample imge from yesterday I took to demonstrate the blue/purple issue. Even the raw converter from
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Bob Frost
Randy, The blue turns purple is a standard problem with most profiling software - professional or otherwise. Have a look at Bruce Lindbloom s site where he
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Tom
... makes ... Yes, whacky color spokes are definately a problem with LAB color. Other problems may include paper/ink combination metamerism, illumination
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Xun Wang
...... Original Message ....... ... Given that a user knows what he s doing, there isn t a huge number of variables.... . It simply is the limitation of LAB
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Xun Wang
I seriously doubt a slider will solve the problem without compromising other color. We ll probably get better result when Colorvision improves its profile
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-19 by Tom
... Profilemaker ... And this ... they re ... Make sure you re comparing apples to apples. There are a huge number of variables which may affect a shift from
Re: CAM - Color Appearance Models
2006-03-19 by Tom
... You are again too kind. Thank you
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by John Vitollo
... That s OK...get some rest! Best, John
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by xun wang
I had Greenish/Yellowish cast problem with PFP, but that was because the wrong intent I chose. with the right one (saturation BPC off), I have blue problem
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by randy
The trouble with written words is that sometimes people read things into them that are not there. I am just laying facts on the table. No animosity intended.
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by John Vitollo
... Randy this is a USER to USER group. CDTobie is very generous with his time and we all should be grateful that he takes time to post here. So lets ask for
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by randy
Hello, I think that you should build a fix into the software. The name of the software is Printfix (PRO). Professionals need stuff (right) not close. If in
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by xun wang
Although I have not used Doctor Pro before. From my own experience(MonacoProfiler and ProfileMaker Pro), I ll recommend against editing profiles for general
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by randy
Will doctor pro edit all profiles even atkinsons? Hi CD, so my blue problem falls under this catagory? Randy Laskody.
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by randy
Hi CD, so my blue problem falls under this catagory? Randy Laskody.
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by mamemarquees
It is pretty dramatic and consistant, any light, daylight, my cheap florescent light. Here is the softproof and nosoftproof.
Media check mystery
2006-03-18 by Jack Winberg
Hi Group and CDT: Today I profiled a few very different papers on an Epson 2400 with the standard K3 inkset. They were Ilford Smooth Pearl and Arches Texture.
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: CAM - Color Appearance Models
2006-03-18 by CDTobie@aol.com
... When I dig up a copy I ll send it to you... C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager ColorVision Business Unit Datacolor Inc. CDTobie@colorvision.com
Re: [colorvision_group] Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by CDTobie@aol.com
... There are assorted color issues generically called the blues ... what you will get for results depends on a large number of factors you dont list here, as
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by bwinkjet
Hi Scott, If your monitor is profiled and the soft proof shows purplish blues then the profile is not at fault. I would suggest you soft proof in PS or your
Re: CAM - Color Appearance Models
2006-03-18 by Tom
... ColorVision ... Where are the whitepapers?
Re: SpyderPRO 2.2 Release Date
2006-03-18 by Tom
... incorporate besides the ambient light correction? Nope ... but we do have the ear of the ColorVision folks here so if you have a specific question I m sure
Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-18 by mamemarquees
Hello I just purchased the printfix pro and did my first profile. Most colors are spot on with the exception of blues which are all purple. I also do a
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: CAM - Color Appearance Models
2006-03-18 by CDTobie@aol.com
... You may want to read the whitepoint transform whitepaper on the ColorVision website... C. David Tobie Product Technology Manager ColorVision Business Unit
Re: [colorvision_group] SpyderPRO 2.2 Release Date
2006-03-18 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Aways a few new tweaks, but the main feature of v2.2 is the ambient light functions, see the Ambient Light help file from Spyder2PRO v2.2 that I loaded to
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder 2.2. Release
2006-03-18 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Spyder2PRO v2.2, with ambient light functions, will be a free upgrade to all Spyder2PRO owners, and can be used with the existing hardware. It does require
Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - lowlife's solution
2006-03-17 by lowlife_inc
At the end of this thread I mentioned that I am completely saticefied with the color matching achieved on an AGP card. I do not have any complaints. For me
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder 2.2. Release
2006-03-17 by Doug Lenos
Is this going to be done with the existing Spyder hardware? Interesting, I thought that to measure ambient light the device would require an external sensor on
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Matching dual monitors with Spyder2 Pro - lowlife's solution
2006-03-17 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... So, add a PCI card for the second monitor and stop whining. The damn things are cheap. Running two cards has a lot of advantages. Warning though, don t