Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Optimal Viewing Conditions?
2006-03-24 by xun wang
For traditional CRTs, it s recommended below 30. But your LCDs are probably much brighter, it ll be too contrasty with the surroundings with that setting. so
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Re: [colorvision_group] Optimal Viewing Conditions?
2006-03-24 by CDTobie@aol.com
... You are asking for an absolute answer to a relative question... the eye adjusts to a wide range of viewing luminances; the goal is to work with people
Re: Optimal Viewing Conditions?
2006-03-24 by Tom
... talking ... Ambient light :-)
Re: [colorvision_group] Optimal Viewing Conditions?
2006-03-24 by Xun Wang
For LCD 140 is recommended if I remember it correctly. Or are you talking about ambient light? ... xun911@gmail.com www.xun-wang.com ...... Original Message
Optimal Viewing Conditions?
2006-03-24 by Tom
Ok ... So for color matching which one exactly was optimal lux for viewing? I have a new LCD monitor which (and this is semi-amusing) is too bright for the
Re: Win vs Mac - OS Color Management
2006-03-24 by Tom
... Interestingly enough ... I d really love to see OS level professional grade color management for Linux. That may do a better job of getting the platform
Re: Neutrality, and shadow separation
2006-03-24 by John Vitollo
... Helen, I tested a couple of glossy papers on my 4800 and the Semi-Matte setting opened up the shadows a little more than Epson s recommended media
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Neutrality, and shadow separation
2006-03-24 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Yes, a media setting with the same name as your media may be optimal for the Epson canned profile (though it will also have clogged shadows, by the way);
Re: Win vs Mac - OS Color Management
2006-03-24 by lowlife_inc
... Browser color management is often a source of frustration for many people. I m not saying it s bad but for now it s inconsistantly implemented and worse
Re: Neutrality, and shadow separation
2006-03-23 by Helen Bach
Thanks for the reply. I ll try other media settings. I d like to try to understand how the media settings affect this. If a 0,0,0 pixel gets printed as a
Re: [colorvision_group] Neutrality, and shadow separation
2006-03-23 by CDTobie@aol.com
... You may find that testing other media settings, and choosing one with better shadow separation for your profiling process is a better solution; the profile
Neutrality, and shadow separation
2006-03-23 by Helen Bach
So far I ve been very impressed with the PrintFix Pro, but I m struggling a little to get neutral tones to print neutral, and to get separation in the low
Re: Win vs Mac - OS Color Management
2006-03-23 by Tom
... continuous, ... The Windows ... And people wonder why Mac is considered a better graphics platform. There don t seem to be any web browsers for Windows
Re: [colorvision_group] Win vs Mac - OS Color Management
2006-03-23 by CDTobie@aol.com
... The OS does not control the color of pixels in an application window. If an application does not choose to manage color, than the only thing an OS
Win vs Mac - OS Color Management
2006-03-23 by Tom
Ok .... I don t have a Mac ... I admit it. Sounds like going to an AA meeting doesn t it? This is a basic question. Does the Macintosh platform (OS-X) apply
Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe! And back online!!! (nt)
2006-03-23 by peter_woelk
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-23 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Yes, all Spyders have been sent a command from the mother ship to return now... The Spectros may take longer to migrate, having to inch along on their
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-23 by CDTobie@aol.com
... In a message dated 3/22/06 7:49:30 PM, editor@p-o-v-image.com writes: So changes, missing items, disappearing items, unintended items, are all possible
Re: [colorvision_group] Coler in the home
2006-03-23 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Household lighting runs the gamut from yellower-than-tungsten incandescent bulbs, to really-bad-incandescent energy saver bulbs, to brilliantly blue north
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-23 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... That explains where my SPyder2 and colorimeter went to. I ll stop looking around my desk... LOL Keith Keith Krebs Just some guy, caretaker of the
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-22 by CDTobie@aol.com
... As I may have noted here earlier, ColorVision is in the process of updating our websites, and Europe is taking the lead in this. So changes, missing items,
Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-22 by Brian Smith
... manner, ... my ... that ... Weird indeed. I registered with the site and logged in earlier but could not get anywhere with the download system. Search
Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-22 by peter_woelk
Brian, 6 hours ago the support/download area was reachable in the old manner, now you have to login, but I cannot login because I cannot register my PrintFix
Re: [colorvision_group] Coler in the home
2006-03-22 by randy
100% of what I print wind up on walls of peoples homes (wall portraits and groups of photos as wall portraits) all of people. My computer room and mounting
Re: Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-22 by Brian Smith
Can you say where? The european site search for the download area fails to locate it and the links from the cached page at Google fail. Brian
RE: [colorvision_group] Coler in the home
2006-03-22 by Kris
Jonathan, maybe this isn t an answer, but almost every place that a print will hang will have SOME lighting differences. The farther away from a standard the
Coler in the home
2006-03-22 by potomacbassfisher
For those of use who are selling prints to people to hang on their wall (not gallaries with good light), should we calibrate our monitors and set up our
Spyder2Pro 2.2 available in Europe!
2006-03-22 by peter_woelk
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130
2006-03-22 by Bob Frost
Jim, If all else fails and you have a P4 processor, you might try turning off Hyperthreading (HT) in your Bios. I was having problems with Nikon Capture
Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-22 by Tom
... don t ... for now. ... Let s just ... photoshop, and ... out - ... obvious from ... Curiously the Crane Museo profile does not shift. It appears to be at
RE: [colorvision_group] Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130
2006-03-21 by JAMES WEST
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Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by randy
This is good! Thanks for the help! Randy
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by CDTobie@aol.com
... We would expect that... consistancy is a virtue in ICC profiles. Once I m back in the office, I ll take a look at your profile, data file, and sample
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Yes, Joe is a fan of deep, saturated blues from the Ektachrome days... but even so, its difficult to be sure this is being done properly. This is an
Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by John Vitollo
... Good we can narrow things down. ... I matched the same size image you sent me and compared the two...the one you sent me shifted, the Holmes image just
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by xun wang
... I didn t convert it to AdobeRGB, the shot was taken in RAW and AdobeRGB is my default camera color space. I converted to sRGB for web viewing. Why don t I
Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by John Vitollo
... OK this one shifited too but how did you convert the image into Adobe? Why don t I see the Holmes image shift to red with the same softproofing proflie?
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by randy
Just for the record I tried redeveloping some problem images from the raw file in adobe, srgb and pro rgb and matching the working space with no noticable
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by xun wang
Just uploaded a AdobeRGB version. - http://www.xun-wang.com/pfp/nybg_xmas_adobe.jpg The result look the same to me... John, your profile not only shifted, but
Re: PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by John Vitollo
... With the above image part of the blue sky shifts to red when softproofed. But it s in sRGB. Can you upload the same image in Adobe98? I couldn t reproduce
PrintFix Pro & Blue Shift [continued]
2006-03-21 by xun wang
The thread is getting too long, I m starting a new one, hope people don t mind... Tom, let s keep the synthetic & out of gamut color out of the test for now.
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by Tom
... purple or red while softproofing. ... shifted the blue towards red...try ... It s deliberately a fairly vicious test. I m not sure at what hue angle the
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by John Vitollo
... My PFP built profile for ILford Pearl did not shift the blue to purple or red while softproofing. But I tried softproofing using Bill Atkinson s
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by Tom
I put a new test image in the files area called L17BlueRamp.jpg. This one is sort of a limited rainbow (blue) which demonstrates where my profiles start to
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by Tom
... Joseph ... Fine art ... center ... HAH ... I do have my profile for Epson RW Watercolor. In the dark blue yes I do see a shift. The JPEG had no profile
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: PFP crashes with HP DesignJet 130
2006-03-21 by xun wang
few question might be of help: 1) Did you use the latest driver downloaded from the HP website? 2) did you download the latest XP upgrade for the M$ website?
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by xun wang
You re welcome! ya, keep us posted on the progress from colorvision. ... -- ... xun911@gmail.com www.xun-wang.com
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Better target prints
2006-03-21 by randy
I have been using a canned (atkinson) profile for the last 3 years. I was just hoping for a few new ones. I agree we are going to beat it. Randy
Re: [colorvision_group] Re: Better target prints
2006-03-21 by xun wang
Even if there is one for your printer. It is still going to be a canned profile. It should be only good for general evaluation and people who don t have
Re: Printfix Pro and blues
2006-03-21 by Tom
... Joseph ... Fine art ... center ... blue area ... Sure thing. I m at work right now but I can try it when I get home.