Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-08 by Kool Musick
marc lindahl wrote: One thing - it s reductio ad absurdum - reducing to absurdity. Whoops. I miswrote. Reductio ad absurdum is exactly what I meant to
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Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-08 by marc lindahl
Bravo, Kool! I feel like I just sat thru an episode on the Discovery channel! One thing - it s reductio ad absurdum - reducing to absurdity.
Re: [L-OT] Boldly Agreeing Where No Man Has Agreed Before...
2001-11-08 by Kool Musick
Tony Thomspon wrote: Well, if you can make it to the Isle of Wight I live 3 minutes walk from a very fine pub... OK But you d have to go here... Got it.
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-08 by Kool Musick
GA Moore wrote: Just a side note - but Fourier was not a mathematician. Yes he was. For example, he taught mathematics at L Ecole Polytechnique -- and other
Boldly Agreeing Where No Man Has Agreed Before...
2001-11-07 by Tony Thompson
... Well, if you can make it to the Isle of Wight I live 3 minutes walk from a very fine pub... But you d have to go here...
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Dennis Gunn
... You may be right, but that s not the way *he* tells it.
Re: Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Dennis Gunn
... I think I am talking about the difference between digital and analog rather than virtual and hard. Once about 9 years ago on the DAW I remember writing
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) SAMPLERS AND HARD DISK RECORDING
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
I m doing that, but wanted some idea. I know a little about Analogue synthsis and the sound waves. But not to sharp on digital sound waves? [Non-text portions
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) SAMPLERS AND HARD DISK RECORDING
2001-11-07 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Thats not a small wish ... I think you need to consults some books or magazine articles.
Re: Re: Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Just a side note - but Fourier was not a mathematician. I think he was a physcist. He played fast and loose with the symbols to derive his results. The
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Forget the temp gage. Just put the drift control on a midi CC, and have a Phatboy controller and turn the knob yourself. You probably need a VLFO and some
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Kool Musick
marc lindahl wrote: (in response to Kool Musick) You re right, for the limited (but widely applicable case) of what s called a Linear Time-Invariant
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Kool Musick
GA Moore wrote: Sampling involves taking measurements and recording them for reproduction. Depends what you mean by recording , I would guess. I think
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... You re right, for the limited (but widely applicable case) of what s called a Linear Time-Invariant function. That means the mic being modelled responds
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... Actually, the problem is in how you generate synthetic waveforms. In the digital (discrete time) world, you could programmatically generate a waveform in
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
I like the soft synths but love the old analog synths better. Love all those knobs etc.. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... Which observation? The first one or the second one?
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) RE various synthesis methods
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
Yes it is VECTOR SYNTHESIS, just read the email again. Silly me. Take care. Debbie debs xx [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... Yeah, I m sure. It had a synth with I think it was 4 different sounds, one for each key! Insanely great! :) Sure, pitch wandering, temperature drift,
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) RE various synthesis methods
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
Hi ya Wavestation is that Vector synthesis? Thank you for all your help. Hope you have a relaxing evening. Debbie x [Non-text portions of this message have
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) RE various synthesis methods
2001-11-07 by Spectro
... Wavestation is an early (circa 1990) keyboard from Korg which enabled the user to use a joystick to mix between waveforms to create dynamically changing
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) RE various synthesis methods
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
Hi S, What does (a la Wavestation) mean is that the name for it in france or something. Please don t laugh. well i don t blame you. And what did you mean by
OT (GEN) SAMPLERS AND HARD DISK RECORDING
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
Hello again. Debbie debs the student here. Sorry to bother you but can someone describe to me Digital recording of sound waves, as performed by samplers and
Re: [L-OT] OT (GEN) RE various synthesis methods
2001-11-07 by Spectro
... Just about as many as there are. The important thing is to have one or more time varying control elements (ie envelope or knob tweak) applied to to a
OT (GEN) RE various synthesis methods
2001-11-07 by DbbBrook@aol.com
Good day every one. I wonder, if someone could advise me of the different types of synthesis methods there are to produce DYNAMICALLY CHANGING Sound waves
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Murray McDowall
... The Polymoog was an expensive beast in its day but was used by Chick Corea and many others. A guy I knew in the 80 s owned one and swore by its string and
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Bruce Bartlett
... Not quite. The Polymoog used two master oscillators routed through divide-down chips, like electronic organs, string synths, and a few early Korg poly
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Kool Musick
GA Moore wrote: I suspect that the digital recreations of the analog circuits are more precise and accurate and less noisy. Does suspect mean you re not
Re: Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Spectro
... Nine years is a long time in the history of DAWs... It is entirely feasible to digitally filter a square wave to produce a sinewave within the practical
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Spectro
... This observation is not relevant to a sine wave as any change in appearance at the *audio* output outside of a strict shift in phase, can only be
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by Hendrik Jan Veenstra
... The polymoog had a custom-made chip per key. Each chip contained (more or less probably) an entire monophonic synthesizer. That s the only way they were
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by GAmoore@aol.com
Are you sure? The Polymoog came out a few years before the Memorymoog as I recall and was pretty cheesy. Anyway, that same pitch wandering could be programmed
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... And the Polymoog had, I think it was 3 or 4 oscillators per key, times 88!
Re: Re: Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by GAmoore@aol.com
Actually, as I recall the Memorymoog had 18 oscillators - as many as 3 per voice. However, even under normal conditions you had to let it warm up 10 minutes
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... The way the POD uses the word modelling is the same way as the synths - modelling the *behaviour* of the analog circuitry (as opposed to modelling the
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-07 by marc lindahl
... You re not hearing the data - you hear the data after it s been timed and output through a D/A converter, which includes a reconstruction filter. To
Re: [L-OT] Who's responsible?
2001-11-07 by Kool Musick
Tony Thompson wrote: Kool, I begin to see where you re coming from... That s nice. I m the one over there with my hand out ready for a drink!! I agree with
Re: [L-OT] AGP.
2001-11-07 by Frank W. Kooistra
... There are no motherboards with more than one AGP slot Is never defined .. There are Vidocards with more than two video engines But prices rice rapidly Best
Re: Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Do you notice a huge difference with vsti s and analog digital analogs (hardware devices that digitally recreate analog)? They sound differnet to me but I
[L-OT] AGP.
2001-11-06 by Lars Vik
Hi, Does anybody know if it exists mobo s with more than one AGP slot? I want to run three monitors... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Sure, now he says that - after he has seen 30 years of people using his stuff and how they use it. But when he was an electrical engineer at Cornell, I
PC hardware for audio
2001-11-06 by Chris Jones
I seem to remember that there was a website that maintained lists of PC hardware (processors, drives, moterboards etc) and rated their (un-)suitability for
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by GAmoore@aol.com
... I suspect that the digital recreations of the analog circuits are more precise and accurate and less noisy. However for greater variety, that can
And Now For Something Completely Different
2001-11-06 by Tony Thompson
OK - so in an attempt ot distract attention from my massive international faux pas, I now present a link someone else sent me which has to be the silliest
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by marc lindahl
... I don t think it s perfection as much as lack of understanding of what the analog counterpart is really doing. For example, hard/soft oscillator sync.
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by marc lindahl
... You re using the popular meaning of the word sampling, whereas I m referring to the mathematical meaning. ... The concept of a file is irrelevant, but in
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Sampling involves taking measurements and recording them for reproduction. The whole idea of sampling is to take sample frequency readings 44,100 times
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by Dennis Gunn
... Many might have but I have read interviews with Bob Moog and it is pretty clear that he wouldn t. I have seen him say that his favorite processor is a
Re: Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by Dennis Gunn
... yeah the TDM one kicks ass too. :-) Back to the subject. Personally I love soft synths but acknowledge there is a difference between them and the real
Re: [L-OT] Re: Analog synth is still better
2001-11-06 by marc lindahl
... Anything digital is sampled. Just because the samples are computed instead of recorded and stored, that is immaterial.