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2011-05-27 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Leon, You in here too!! That was me on the Pulsonix forum. I came across an Altium user in here today to! Small world isn't it? Dave... --- Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes!!! --- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Leon Sen
2011-05-27 by Leon
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > Interesting to see you in here too after seeing your name in the AD forum! > > As you are probably aware, there is a lot of talk about the bloatware of AD. > I wish I could just have a schematic and PCB des
2011-05-27 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Mike Payson wrote: > > ... the CEO ... [of EzPCB] gave me > some ... technical advice regarding > the use of 0402 components ... (put > succinctly, don't do it unless you > know what you are doing). Might this advice benefit the group? Or, is it t
2011-05-27 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: > ... Graham ... have you considered some > of the low cost prototype stencil offers > that are now being made ... ? Short answer, no. My customers have a habit of delaying approval until the project can no longer be done
2011-05-27 by Mehdi Ghassemi
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2011-05-27 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Tim, Interesting to see you in here too after seeing your name in the AD forum! As you are probably aware, there is a lot of talk about the bloatware of AD. I wish I could just have a schematic and PCB design suite with a good autorouter. I don't use any of the other stuff apa
2011-05-27 by Tim Mitchell
> Man, Altium looks nice. Wish they offered a free version > for home use! > We use Altium and it has some great features, but also has the usual marketing-based problem of them adding more and more "headline" features that hardly anyone uses, while a lot of annoying bugs go unfi
2011-05-27 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Mike, Yeah, this is something we have been asking them to consider with limited design capacity like a lot of software out there. This would introduce a lot more people to it and I am sure increase their sales at the end of the day. I particularly like the 3D features which ma
2011-05-27 by Mike Payson
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Dave McLaughlin wrote: > Oops. Forgot to link to the design file. > > > http://www.bluechiptechnology.co.uk/~bluedownloads/Single_Board_Computers/Hi > SpeedDesignTutorialforAltiumDesigner.pdf > > Man, Altium looks nice. Wish they offered a free ve
2011-05-27 by Mike Payson
If you can deal with a small board (>2" square), Seeed or Itead are really tough to beat. $10 + $3 shipping for 10 boards-- including double sided silkscreens and solder masks. You can go to a 4x4" board for $25 + $4 shipping from either company as well. I have ordered from both,
2011-05-27 by Dave McLaughlin
Oops. Forgot to link to the design file. http://www.bluechiptechnology.co.uk/~bluedownloads/Single_Board_Computers/Hi SpeedDesignTutorialforAltiumDesigner.pdf Dave... --- Very funny Scotty, now beam down my clothes!!! --- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroup
2011-05-27 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Zack, Just a quick one. 2 layer boards are the same as double sided.! :o) I am working on a design that is 6 layer just now. My first beyond 4 and have to learn high speed design. It is Cortex A8 based. I found a really interesting article from Bluechip Technology on this very
2011-05-27 by Zack Widup
I have never made two-layer boards but I have made many double-sided boards myself. I'm not set up to mass-produce boards but I can usually make 3 or 4 at a time with no problem. I made some boards for 47 and 78 GHz (millimeter-wave) ham radio projects. The tiny circuits are etch
2011-05-27 by Mike Payson
FWIW, After Dave forwarded my email to the company I received an email from the CEO. His initial response was a bit wishy-washy, apologizing but not actually stating they had changed the policy, but after following up with him he made it clear that they would no longer ask people
2011-05-27 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi guys, More in response to Graham, but have you considered some of the low cost prototype stencil offers that are now being made if you are considering doing such small SMD devices? I recently did a board (2 off as it happens) for a customer and I ordered a stencil at the same
2011-05-26 by Mike Payson
On the particular board I am designing there are probably a dozen places where using 0402 would be beneficial, and in these cases, I don't need to run traces underneath them. In general, I use 0805 or above, but for this particular board the extra density would be nice. On Thu, M
2011-05-26 by Zack Widup
Yeah, I see. I forgot about the earlier messages talking about this. You know what they say ... as you get older, the first thing to go is your memory and the second thing is ... I forget what that is. :-) Zack On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:17 AM, ecros_technology wrote: > > > --- I
2011-05-26 by farhan ahmad
Thanks Dave, I have implemented in my code and it is working properly. Thanks for your Tip. Best Regards, Farhan Ahmad --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Dave McLaughlin wrote: From: Dave McLaughlin Subject: RE: [AVR-Chat] Timeout detection Serial RS232 USART To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Date:
2011-05-26 by Zack Widup
That's a shame. Five boards as you described, even unpopulated, for $10 apiece is quite a deal. Zack On 5/26/11, Mike Payson wrote: > Was interested in EzPCB because they appear to offer to populate 0402 > resistors and capacitors for free. It was unclear, though, so I asked > th
2011-05-26 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Zack Widup wrote: > > ... Five boards [from EzPCB] for > $10 apiece is quite a deal. ... except that, as we determined earlier in this thread, it's far from the best deal available. Graham.
2011-05-26 by Mike Payson
And yes, I am always VERY happy to promote companies that I like, as many of you know. This sort of behavior is really self destructive in the long run. Good service WILL be promoted, demanding people promote you to get that level of service will never be a good business model. O
2011-05-26 by Mike Payson
Please feel free. I am absolutely shocked by that response, and would love to have you, an existing customer, tell her you are as well. She was quite explicit, though. I clipped the bit at the end where she backpedaled after I told her I planned to post her comments, when she sai
2011-05-26 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Mike, That is obviously a very poor response you got from Nila. I have been dealing with her personally for about 2 years now. I never use the online ordering but instead send direct to her my order and it always works out a better price this way. I am also very surprised by t
2011-05-26 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Mike Payson wrote: > ... interested in EzPCB ... offer to populate 0402 > resistors and capacitors for free ... asked support representative ... transcript of the live chat: Thank you very much for going to this trouble and posting the results of
2011-05-26 by Mike Payson
Was interested in EzPCB because they appear to offer to populate 0402 resistors and capacitors for free. It was unclear, though, so I asked their live support representative. This is a transcript of the live chat: Nila Hello Friend,Welcome to EzPCB.Can I help you? Hello Can you c
2011-05-24 by Mike Bronosky
I would do the RS-232 handling via interrupts. That way your program can go it merry way. 1) When communication data is received the normal process will be interrupted 2) The interrupt will receive the data. 3) The data will then be ready to be placed into a variable that your co
2011-05-24 by Dave McLaughlin
Not too difficult. What I do is create a timer that increments every 1ms. I then create a volatile long variable that gets incremented in the timer interrupt. Now in your code you reset the timer to ZERO and then just check it for greater than or equal to 500. Main thing to make
2011-05-24 by farhan ahmad
Dear All, I am currently in the process of writing software which involves reading characters from RS232 port. Can anyone suggest a good way of detecting a timeout condition? For example, if there will be no data on RS232 port for 500ms then program will do something else. I am u
2011-05-22 by Mike Payson
Yes, they do any shape within the limits of the size boards you order. Here is a round board I made a year or so ago: https://picasaweb.google.com/mikepayson/Eagle?authkey=Gv1sRgCIOit4qPkIqjWg#5415641075268235010 On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Dave McLaughlin wrote: > Here's a
2011-05-22 by Dave McLaughlin
Here's a question for you in reference to Seeedstudio. Can they do odd shaped boards and handle cutouts? Ie, not just square or rectangle. This is one board I had done with EzPCB last year. http://www.axoninstruments.biz/Services/CIMG1667-thumb.JPG A lot of my boards have cutouts
2011-05-21 by Mike Payson
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 4:57 AM, ecros_technology wrote: > > I have not used EzPCB. Fiddling with their ordering application, it seems > that for my test order they would have charged $50 for five pieces as > compared to $23.52 for ten (12 actually delivered). The price does not
2011-05-21 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Dave McLaughlin" wrote: > Shipping seems like a long time. > I would be interested to know > how far you are from them? Sorry, I didn't know that you can no longer get this information from my profile. Seeed Studio is in Shenzhen, Guangdong, Chin
2011-05-21 by Dave McLaughlin
Hi Graham, Shipping seems like a long time. I would be interested to know how far you are from them? As I said earlier, I use EzPCB and get boards in 2 days delivery (after 7-8 days production) from China to Indonesia. For me this is quick and they are much cheaper than others I
2011-05-20 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Electroniclab66" wrote: > > I can see that seed-studio has good prices ... > I am manly looking for good PCB prices ... Yeah, I'm "manly" too when I look for good prices. Let me share my experience. I ordered a small design from Seeed Studio main
2011-05-20 by Dave McLaughlin
Is this courier shipping or standard postal service? For some people in some countries, myself included, courier is the only way to guarantee delivery in a few days. Postal service to Indonesia where I am located takes weeks. I have seen stuff take 6-8 weeks for delivery. I know
2011-05-20 by Electroniclab66
Hi. I can see that seed-studio has good prices. I have not found this page before. I am manly looking for good PCB prices for my self, so thank you for this information. Regards --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "ecros_technology" wrote: > > --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Hakon
2011-05-20 by ecros_technology
--- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, "Hakon Gudmundsson" > at h-instruments it is with free shipping (air-mail) includet. What kind of air-mail shipping are we talking about here? If it's just ordinary air-mail that takes one to two weeks, the value is just a few dollars and your pri
2011-05-19 by Hakon Gudmundsson
Hi. Thank you for your responce. The price at iteadstudio is + shipping. at h-instruments it is with free shipping (air-mail) includet. Regards --- In AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com, Mike Payson wrote: > > Wow, more than 2x the price of the competition, and half as many boards: > http:
2011-05-17 by mohsen mohammadi
________________________________ From: David VanHorn To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2011 5:43 AM Subject: [AVR-Chat] ATRF231 expert needed. ASAP. If you have solid experience on this chip and/or the 230, then please contact me offlist. Thanks. [Non-text por
2011-05-15 by ECROS Technology
Also twice the price for half as many boards as compared to Seeed Studio. Definitely an informative post, i.e. don't bother with these guys. So, time for the group moderator to remove this user? Graham. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hakon Gudmundsson To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups
2011-05-15 by Mike Payson
Wow, more than 2x the price of the competition, and half as many boards: http://iteadstudio.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=19_20. In fact for about the same price as your boards, I can get 10 boards from Itead and get them shipped via DHL. What makes it worth the extra
2011-05-13 by Hakon Gudmundsson
If you need a PCB board of your design try H-Instruments: Get 5 pcs of your PCB boards. 5 indentical boards. 2 layers. Any size less than 100x100mm only 59.95$ with shipping Any size less than 50x50mm only 29.95 $ with free shipping See: http://www.h-instruments.com or http://www
2011-03-06 by Jim Wagner
I tried exactly the same thing. I was told by Studio5 dev team member on AVRFreaks that .NET will ONLY install on an "official" Windows installation. Thus, no .NET, and no Studio5 IDE. They DO say that there are some changes in, especially in the debugger, that will allow the bac
2011-03-05 by David VanHorn
ASAP. If you have solid experience on this chip and/or the 230, then please contact me offlist. Thanks.
2011-03-03 by Mike Bronosky
Finished a 4 hour DL about an hour or so ago. Tried to install in Wine. It bitched and complained about that there was no .NET framework. It would behoove Atmel to stop catering to MS and start supporting Linux too. If they don't start supporting me I most likely start supporting
2011-03-03 by wagnerj@proaxis.com
If I understand the postings by the Atmel "dev team" on AVRFreaks, the other components "will" be available compiled for Win, Mac and Linux without the IDE (implied support for new parts, as they are available). Not going to hold my breath, though! Jim Wagner Oregon Research Elec
2011-03-03 by Dennis Clark
That's funny! Isn't everything else all open source like gcc? IOW, what we already have? DLC -- Dennis Clark While traveling On Mar 3, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Jim Wagner wrote: This beast relies on the .NET framework for the IDE. That means that you will never be able to run it in WINE
2011-03-03 by Jim Wagner
On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Dennis Clark wrote: > Still Windows only. > > I've been following the PIC MPLAB X progress and it is supported on > Windows, Linux and Mac. That could be interesting since universities > tend to prefer Linux support these days. > > DLC > -- > Dennis Cl
2011-03-03 by Dennis Clark
Still Windows only. I've been following the PIC MPLAB X progress and it is supported on Windows, Linux and Mac. That could be interesting since universities tend to prefer Linux support these days. DLC -- Dennis Clark While traveling On Mar 2, 2011, at 11:41 PM, "Dave McLaughlin"
2011-03-03 by Tim Mitchell
----Original Message---- From: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Wagner Sent: 03 March 2011 15:21 To: AVR-Chat@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [AVR-Chat] Spotted this in my inbox today > This beast relies on the .NET framework for the IDE. T