RE: Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Daniel Staver
... It also assumes that you know the effect you re after when you re shooting the picture. I admire people who have such clear vision, but personally I often
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Re: Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Tom Baker
Anthony - Sobe up. Your statement: You can get anything you want in B&W with the right film and filters. , is simply untrue. Tom Baker Anthony G.
Re: Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Tom Baker
Would you provide an example of a b&w image that could only be captured with b&w? Most of us would like to see such an example. Tom Baker Anthony G.
RE: Convert to grayscale
2003-11-28 by Johnny Eades
I failed to correct one error in my message on converting to grayscale. On one line I said converting to Color--I meant GRAYSCALE.
Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Johnny Eades
Hello Alan, I hate to jump into the hornets nest this question seems to have stirred up, but I would like to put my two cents in. For what it s worth, when we
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by C J Morgan
... Perhaps for the same reason an immigrant might cook a particular dish from his or her old country -- comfort food. We have a nature inclination to
Re: Epson OEM and MIS UT/Quadtone inks
2003-11-28 by David Wroblewski
Bob, I m in the middle of a OEM/UT conversion myself. I working with a 2200, using QTR/Linux. The results are great, and I prefer them to the OEM inks, though
B&W vs. Color
2003-11-28 by claudej1@aol.com
In a message dated 11/27/2003 10:27:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, ... I m using this post as a springboard for something that has been on my mind for quite some
Re: IJC "AIMS"
2003-11-28 by klog52756
Hi Roy & thanks for the info. Measuring the Dmin/Dmax makes sense to me, and dividing it by the number of steps I am measuring makes sense to me, AND I have a
Check This Out!
2003-11-28 by aguinskygqs8
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Monitor Gamma 2.2 or 1.8
2003-11-28 by Johnny Eades
What does the monitor gamma have to do with the fininshed print if the monitor matches the printed image? I use Windows XP and have had my monitor set to Gamma
[Digital BW] Re: I'm on a deadline...Epson 1280 doesn't print...help!
2003-11-28 by Joel Beeson
Keith; Thank you for the help. Does it matter if I print a file as a tif or jpg? Also, should I use the Legion-supplied ICC profiles for the printer? Best,
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... So why are you interested in black and white prints?
Re: software fro bw on epson 2200
2003-11-28 by Scott Graham
The Epson software that came with it, and Photoshop of course, work great. For the best quality use all inks (file in RGB mode). And start with matte black
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Bob Frost
Anthony, I don t think I ve ever seen a natural black and white scene!! I gave up using b&w films about 40 yrs ago when they invented films that recorded the
software fro bw on epson 2200
2003-11-28 by jerdiakiw
just signed on an cant find in the archives anything specific to my search. What software, RIP? do I need to make quality prints without breaking the bank . I
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Kevin Gulstene
Could someone frame this. It seems to say all that needs to be said this theoretical tangent.
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Paul D. DeRocco
... Excuse me, but black and white film collapses all the spectral energy of the original scene into just one number. In theory, you can certainly acheive
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... You can get anything you want in B&W with the right film and filters. The same cannot be said of RGB conversions in Photoshop. The one thing you _can_ get
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Paul D. DeRocco
... Since the human eye sees in color, _all_ black and white images are by definition arbitrary. You may prefer an image in which some infrared or ultraviolet
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... You have much more flexibility if you shoot the original image in black and white through a filter.
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... No. True black and white is original capture that records image information as a function of a spectral sensitivity curve (usually a continuous curve over
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Few people ever do, and I usually run out of energy before they show any evidence of understanding. ... I ll try again: RGB is worse because it collapses
Re: [Digital BW] Re: I'm on a deadline...Epson 1280 doesn't print...help!
2003-11-28 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... 1) The Roark Curve needs to be applied AFTER you convert back to RGB.. 2) your color management in the printer driver needs to be disabled 3) If you re
Re: I'm on a deadline...Epson 1280 doesn't print...help!
2003-11-28 by Joel Beeson
Ok, I got the printer working after doing what Epson Tech Support told me to do...that is go through 10 nozzle cleaning cycles with the Epson color carts. I
Re: [Digital BW] VM vs. Ultratone
2003-11-28 by Roy Harrington
Tim, If you want to use a 6 ink color ink printer for B&W you have two choices, just use the black ink, or use black plus mixing color inks to get gray. Both
Re: Re: Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Jon
... To attract trolls? More importantly why are you always involved in these discussions, but never in discussions of the stated topic of the list? ... Fancy
RE: [Digital BW] A little help with photoshop
2003-11-28 by Daniel Staver
... I don t think you can, but I find that using Caps-Lock to turn the cursor into a brush-sized circle often makes it more visible. -- Daniel Staver
Re: IJC "AIMS"
2003-11-28 by Roy Harrington
... Hi Kevin, The AIMS are based on measured values of dMin (the plain paper) and dMax (paper with the max amount of ink). You just evenly divide the range
Re: Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by bruce greene
On Friday, November 28, 2003, at 01:36 AM, ... Anthony, Just another perspective. I ve experimented with shooting B&W traditional film, B&W c-41 film, and
A little help with photoshop
2003-11-28 by Truman Prevatt
Is there any way to change the color of the cross hairs in photoshop 7. I find that when using them with B&W it is almost impossilbe to see them in some shades
Re: [Digital BW] VM vs. Ultratone
2003-11-28 by Tim Goodwin
Does anyone have a QTR profile that works with the 1270 dye based inks or at least know if this is possible for B&W ? Thanks Tim
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
when I first started shooting/scanning I was just as hostile toward anything but real photography as you are and I measured the grain in a Tri-X photo and
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Black only printing. -> digital capture vs film
2003-11-28 by D. Hill
Steve, I use BO sparingly - and that is dependant on the image. Most of my work is printed quadtone via piezo driver. That work (printed 8x12) is what is
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by D. Hill
I remember Rocky and Clubber Lang doing this in Rocky III - Well, at least that was entertaining... ... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Tom Baker
I ve seen a couple of b&w images out of a Sigma that were really nice. Based on these images, I think there might be some real utility for b&w with that
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Tom Baker
I sense that you use of the term true b&w is just emotional. What IS true b&w ? Seems to me that if the final print is b&w, that s true b&w. Tom Baker
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscales
2003-11-28 by Daniel Staver
Please! Do we have to have this discussion again? (RGB converted to BW vs real BW capture) There is an enormous amount of messages regarding this in the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Truman Prevatt
There is a simple experiment that could be run. Set up four color lasers against first a white back ground and then a black background and point them toward
Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by scrber
... filter ... to ... (except ... be ... excellent ... will ... resolution; ... B&W ... Sorry, I must be dumb, but I just don t get it. Why is shooting colour
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Austin Franklin
Mark, ... Correct, but two film scanners do in fact have a grayscale channel, and that s the Leafscan 35 and Leafscan 45. ... Please explain what leads you to
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Then why are people discussing RGB conversions to black and white? ... Currently I take my images to a lab for conventional chemical printing. It s cheaper
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... It still produces RGB output. You need a sensor that does not filter the image into red, green, and blue components, but simply responds to overall light
Re: Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Jon
... Therein lies your error. It is a group dedicated to black and white _digital printing_. During one of the previous times you were involved in one of these
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Phil Morse
Colin, Can you direct me to information/workflow on using PWP for the B/W conversion as you mentioned? I can t find it in the manual or on the site or dope
Epson OEM and MIS UT/Quadtone inks
2003-11-28 by Robert Young
Before I stick the UT quadtone B&W MIS inks in my 2200, I just want to verify among the current users, that they have not encountered any clogging/etc problems
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by scrber
... That ... true ... What about the Foveon filter used in the Sigmas? I heard that this kind of sensor would have real benefits for B&W photographers. I
Re: Black only printing. -> digital capture vs film
2003-11-28 by scrber
Hi Don, do I understand it that you found the same things I did back at the start of this thread, that printing BO with grainy B&W film has a similar /
Re: [Digital BW] VM vs. Ultratone
2003-11-28 by Lance Funderburk
Is this possibly a case where the pigmented inks do not give a color cast while the dye-based inks do? Does anyone have a profile that works with dye-based
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Not at all.. You issued the insults to those who use plugins.. I was entirely OUT of the discussion until you crossed that line. It s not about ME.. nor