IJC "AIMS"
2003-11-28 by klog52756
Hi, 2 questions: 1. How are the IJC AIMS determined for any particular inkset/paper 2. How are the AIMS inputed into the program so that they appear?
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Actually, if you really want to just use PhotoShop s built in tools, I like converting to Lab Color and using the lightness channel.. It keeps skintones a
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... Apples and oranges indeed ... RGB is the apple, B&W is the orange. They don t mix. I m surprised that, on a group dedicated to black and white
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... That doesn t help. The main problem with RGB conversions has nothing to do with Bayer filtering or anything like that (although that does produce an
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
What???? You are talking apples and oranges here... and scanning silver based film also has its down side as well. mark ... a ... sensors ... film
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
Ummm, most film scanners take 3 simulanious scans, one for each channel, to make the RGB file so you do not have the same issues as with interpolated sensor
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... It s still an issue because you still have the option of shooting film for black and white.
Re: [Digital BW] R800 & "Gloss Optimizer" (was Switching between b/w and color?)
2003-11-28 by Ernst Dinkla
... going to show ... The reduction of metamerism is by extending the black generation. That can be done with an extra k ink but also with smaller K droplets.
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
no, no, no. You are getting 1/3 of the information that *would* be present in a dedicated b&w sensor of the same dimensions, but since those sensors are not
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Black only printing.
2003-11-28 by Ernst Dinkla
Black only but with for example two heads. Has that been tried ? If the total inklimit is set to be not higher than 100% for both heads you get at least the
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... As long as you are doing any type of conversion from RGB to B&W, whether it be with a digital image or with a film scan, you ve already lost most of the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Anthony G. Atkielski
... If you want perfect black and white, your original image capture _must_ be in black and white. And since there are currently no B&W digital cameras
Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Jon
... How about a table in Brooklyn with my neighbor, a German woman, and my martial arts instructor, who is a Chinese man? But if you don t improve your manners
Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by colingruk
... tools and plugins. Thank you for any insight provided. ... Not a plugin but try www.dl-c.com for Picture Window 3x for free. Infinite mix of RGB in the
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
sorry bout that... I ll put any further replies off-list:) mark ... this discussion ...
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Jack M Kucy
You must be kidding. RAW - of course. I never shoot anything else. Saturation to 0 - BIG NOOOOOOOO. Either play with the Channel Mixer or use the Plug Ins -
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Tom Baker
I m not going to get in the middle of the pissing match part of this discussion, but I must admit that I too don t understand why one would want to mimic a
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
my method is to: action: create Curves adjustment layer (I) create Channel Mixer layer (with a generic mix) create final Curves adjustment layer (may be
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Mark Hahn
I guess you are trying to turn this into a stupid pissing match... I studied at the School of the Art Inst. Chicage which is one of the top art schools in the
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Paul D. DeRocco
... Yes, that works too. What I like about my method is that if I make Gray Gamma 2.2 my default proof setup, all I have to do is hit Ctrl+Y to toggle between
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Jake Hellbach
Here s a web site that the author created a few Photoshop actions that you can download. One of them is a black and white converter that works pretty well. Has
Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Clayton Jones
... This sounds much like a method I use (I think it was posted here last year but I don t remember who - sorry I can t give proper credit): 1) Add Hue/Sat
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by flyfishingusa2002
Ed, You need to get a camera that can shoot raw and keep up with you. I shoot in Raw and large JPG, that s a option with the 10D. I seldom get a jpg from the
Re: Choosing a Digital Camera for Black & White
2003-11-28 by Tom OConnell
David- I agree with Mark...noise is important...and that you shoot RAW and keep the file in 16 bit (more important in BW, I believe, than color). Both Nikon
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Paul D. DeRocco
... If you turn the saturation down in the Camera Raw plugin, the remaining controls give you a fairly limited ability to adjust the weighting of the different
RE: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Ed Mathews
... Not an option at a wedding yet. I d miss 1/2 the shots shotting in RAW. It just takes too long to write to the card and the buffer fills too fast. Maybe
Re: [Digital BW] RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by Richard Corbett
... From: A. Huntley To: Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 8:17 PM Subject: [Digital
Re: [Digital BW] VM vs. Ultratone
2003-11-28 by flyfishingusa2002
Peter, Sorry but this is just not the case using a Rip on the Epson 2200, 7600, 9600 range of printers and Ultachrome color inks. I use the FREE QTR rip and
[Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-28 by flyfishingusa2002
-Jeez, You guys really need all of the facts. The easist way and really most effective to get a B/W using photoshop is to open your RAW image and turn the
Re: [Digital BW] Print Quality Prob with 1280 After Ink Changeover
2003-11-28 by klog52756
Hi Keith, I am running at 2880, single pass. I forgot to include in my original post that I used the MIS cleaning carts prior to installing the new CFS that
Re: [Digital BW] Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-27 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... For a hobbyist, perhaps... But for a pro time IS money.. I can do variations much more quickly (and easily repeatably) via the plug ins than farting around
Re: [Digital BW] VM vs. Ultratone
2003-11-27 by Peter A. Klein
Lance: Because B&W prints with color inks always had some subtle green or magenta color cast somewhere. What s more, the color casts varied with the density
Re: Choosing a Digital Camera for Black & White
2003-11-27 by Mark Hahn
All that matters is that you get clean crisp color photos and know how to convert them to b&w after you have taken them. Low noise is more important for b&w
Re: RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-27 by Mark Hahn
personally, I think they are all expensive pointless tools... but I do have a good friend who likes buying things like this just to hold his hand till he
Choosing a Digital Camera for Black & White
2003-11-27 by David Sinai
Hi, What I am about to ask is very controversial and has been debated in this forum many times. So, please forgive me in advance. I am strongly considering a
RGB Convert to Grayscale
2003-11-27 by A. Huntley
First, a very Happy Holiday to all list members celebrating Thanksgiving today. I m once again re-evaluating the use of RGB-to-grayscale conversion tools and
[Digital BW] Re: Black only printing. -> digital capture vs film
2003-11-27 by Mark Hahn
Ummm, aren t you saying that you already have the solution using BO printing? ...when I first started with digital I gave this some thought and did a few
Re: Upgrading from 1270 to 1280 Or better?
2003-11-27 by Clayton Jones
Hello art, ... I can think of at least two: the 1280 has the 2880 dpi option, and also does borderless prints. ... Another choice is the 2200, but whether
grain was:[Digital BW] Re: Black only printing. -> digital capture vs film
2003-11-27 by Mark Hahn
I can t get this, even going to 400% and all enlargerments. Don t know... I don t generally do this, only there were a few personal snapshot/portraits which
Clogging
2003-11-27 by Stephen Kobrin
I posted about a month ago expressing my frustration with the frequent clogs I was getting with an Epson 1200 and MIS VM inks. It appears, that at least to
Upgrading from 1270 to 1280 Or better?
2003-11-27 by montydogsdad
Hello Group, What are the advantages in upgrading from a 1270 to a 1280? Is there a better upgrade? To say something else? Thanx, Art Griffin
Re: [Digital BW] Replacing 1160 with 1290?
2003-11-27 by Barry Kelsall
... That depends on the eye & how good it is. I have two 1160 s, one running FSN Piezo & the other MIS Perpetual color (Eboni), & a 1280 also with MIS
Replacing 1160 with 1290?
2003-11-27 by Bernie Ess
Hello, with the prices for the 1290 going constantly down and almost approaching the 1160 level (which is still available here) I am thinking of replacing my
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Switching between b/w and color??
2003-11-27 by Paul D. DeRocco
... I like matte for that reason, too. However, the very shine that causes interfering reflections with viewing a glossy image at certain angles make it
Re: [Digital BW] Lyson Quad Tone inks on Canon i950
2003-11-27 by Kip Babington
I agree with you, Mark, in the large boxes the Ilford classic papers are a bargain. In addition to the way Ilford papers look, the fact that Ilford is willing
Re: [Digital BW] Print Quality Prob with 1280 After Ink Changeover
2003-11-27 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Are you printing at 2880 or at a lower res? With a CFS running pigments, the lower res causes a HIGHER inkdraw through the CFS and can result in ink
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Switching between b/w and color??
2003-11-27 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Um.. And you re expecting people to buy a Mac or Linux system to get good b/w with QTR? or pay mucho $$ for ImagePrint? ... Depends on your target
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Black only printing. -> digital capture vs film
2003-11-27 by Alan Zinn
... Chatzebussi, No - you are an expert! You know what you like and why you like it. It seems outrageous to me that someone would even think that they should
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Switching between b/w and color??
2003-11-27 by Tom Baker
Barry - Are there objective tests to support you statement: with the 2200 you can get a denser black if you use a third party ink. In practice, with high
Re: [Digital BW] VM vs. Ultratone
2003-11-27 by A. Huntley
Hi Peter, Before moving to ImagePrint and using my Epson 2200 for both color and B&W, I had migrated my Epson 1160, using Paul s curves and workflow, from the