Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 1297
2003-02-11 by Ernst Dinkla
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Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by B. Alex Pettit Jr. <a_pettit_jr@yahoo.co
Hi Austin, Don t shoot the messenger - I just thought I was providing some useful information. As I now, it seems scale my prints to 333.33 DPI , I think I
Re: Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Roy Harrington <roy@harrington.com>
... www.cups.orgs has lots of documentation. see the programmers manual for cups raster data and cups raster header. I just spent the last couple of weeks
Re: [Digital BW] 1160 won't feed EAM anymore... ???
2003-02-11 by Mark Hahn <markhahn2000@yahoo.com>
thanks jerry! it was that single rubber cam thing-y... covered with white residue... coating I guess... sure don t make getting to it very easy do they?
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by sanfo2003 <SandyCornelius@cox.net>
There s an awful lot of complicated discussion going on in this thread. The simple answer to the question posed by the title of the thread is this: Around
Re: When will we get simple, reliable BW
2003-02-11 by John/Julie Gittins
Following this thread, and the concerns voiced about the unfinished nature of our current technical devices for producing digital B&W prints, prompted the
RE: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Austin Franklin
Hi Tony, ... It COULD work that way...but there is no reason it has to. ... Understood, but again, that s an assumption that it works that way. ... In this
RE: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Austin Franklin
Hi Roy, ... Do you have any references that elaborate on this? ... I have not heard that...of course, any more info you have on this, I d certainly like to
Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Roy Harrington <roy@harrington.com>
... my try ... to ... pixels- dots ... resolution ... first ... imaging ... passed to the ... there ... used by the ... print. ... simply by ... Tony, You are
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Roy Harrington <roy@harrington.com>
... DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... it s ... I have a B&W print from the 2200 using the ImagePrint 5 RIP. It s quite cool/neutral and doesn t
RE: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI (should be PPI...)
2003-02-11 by Austin Franklin
Hi Jerry, ... Don t you mean PPI instead of DPI in this reply? Other than that, my experience agree with yours ;-) Regards, Austin
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Jerry Olson
Peter, how much shifting has to be evident before you say metamerism is a problem? On a scale of 0 to 10, I d say the MIS VM inks have about a 1 between
Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Tony Terlecki
... I know that. I think, as usual, I am not making myself clear. Let my try again. What I am saying is that prior to the driver doing its own conversion from
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Jerry Olson
Aren t regular photographic C prints also affected with metamerism? I remember printing them in the darkroom at night, and under tungsten light, they looked
Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Jerry Olson
But is Good enough good enough for you? if you have tiny text or diagonal lines, you are definitely losing quality at this setting. Just try it yourself and
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Bob_Michaels <Bob@BobMichaels.org>
Peter: Could be my eyes are bad. I know I m not a print worshiper as Duane Michels referred to some photo collectors. But looking at my 1280 prints using BO
Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Jerry Olson
I did run tests. Up to 480 DPI you can see differences. The higher the DPI (FILE size) the smoother and sharper the prints look. Sometimes I have 1200 DPI
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by sdmey4@aol.com
In a message dated 2/10/2003 5:48:01 PM Pacific Standard Time, ... So that would mean removing any color from the equation would not neutralize the print tone?
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by James Downs
Just a note about GIMP-PRINT: In the printer feature menu, there is a 2 level gray option for the 2200. Examination of the print with an 8x loupe seems. to
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by peter nelson
At 02:00 AM 2/11/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... I m still waiting for someone to explain how they get around the metamerism
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by peter nelson
At 02:00 AM 2/11/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... Oh, nonsense. I started doing darkroom printing and photography at age 13 (1966)
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Please ask them what the REAL EEM story is too while you re at it.. That ll give you the full three wishes when you find the genie bottle.. Keith Just
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by peter nelson
At 02:00 AM 2/11/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... It does NOT use the light black . I agree that IF they used black and light
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Which takes us straight to my point.. It s not meant to be THE mainstream answer.. Mainstream printers of in chemical darkrooms generally didn t use the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... Answer #1 - the market, as more users enter, higher expectations are engendered... Answer #2 - Of course the vendors drive expectations as well ...
Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 1297
2003-02-11 by peter nelson
At 03:12 PM 2/10/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... Someone else suggested that they didn t use YELLOW, which makes no sense because
RE: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Austin Franklin
Hi Tony, ... I don t know what you are saying/asking. It s a fact, the print driver HAS TO resample the image to convert from pixels to dots, that s what a
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by peter nelson
At 12:28 AM 2/10/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... Maybe not YOUR naked eye, but I can see the 1280 s dots just fine! I ve long
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by peter nelson
At 12:28 AM 2/10/2003 +0000, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com ... Cyan+magenta = blue so just subtracting the yellow doesn t give you a neutral
Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Tony Terlecki
... I know little about these things but is it not possible that the printer driver resamples an image to a specific resolution before performing its own
Re: [Digital BW] ImagePrint Sale
2003-02-11 by patricia ternahan
Thanks, that is what i needed to know. t ... ~t Patricia Ternahan Gentlelens Photography You are invited to visit: http://www.gentlelens.com and
RE: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Austin Franklin
What happens when you resample the image to accommodate some mythical PPI to the printer is you degrade the image. The printer dithering algorithm is going to
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by sdmey4@aol.com
I would have to agree, Simple, reliable B&W printing has been around more than two years. Piezography Plugin 150.00 and If the Inks are to rich for ya, MIS
Re: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by flyfishingusa2002 <tflyfish@citlink.net>
If you have the 2200 Grey Balancer and have a look at the included test files that print beautifully, you will see that their resolution is 240dpi. That is
RE: [Digital BW] Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by Austin Franklin
... Yeah, but it s not true, and has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be not true many many times. Who gave the seminar? Could you find out? I d
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by Bob_Michaels <Bob@BobMichaels.org>
See Clayton s workflow at his website: http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm His workflow is detailed in articles 3 & 4, but you will learn a lot of general
Re: [Digital BW] FWD (WRVR FM 104)Loyal Listener Club Mail: Feedback
2003-02-11 by Jerry Olson
WHAT does this mean? It makes no sense whatever. WHAT does it have to do with anything at all? Curious
Optimal DPI
2003-02-11 by B. Alex Pettit Jr. <a_pettit_jr@yahoo.co
A friend attended an Epson printing seminar over the weekend. One piece of most interesting information that he brought back is that there Is an optimal
[Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-11 by danielstaver <daniel@petraflux.com>
People may be having unreasonable expectations about BW printing, but who created those expectations? I quote from Epson s UK web-site:
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-10 by Mitch Alland
... In my view the output is smoother, NOT rougher, than the Epson driver, with the gradation as good as Piezography which is what I had been using previously.
Tyler Boley's curves & Win XP...
2003-02-10 by DanielPérez
I ve been using Tyler Boley s curves on my 1280/VM inkset with great success under Win 98 SE.. I m now considering upgrading my OS to Win XP. Has anyone run
Re: [Digital BW] Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-10 by Editor P.O.V. Image Service
... What a HUGE assumption.... For it to be silly EPSON would have to easily be able to make a true neutral, non-metameric, light-black , that is as
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-10 by danielstaver <daniel@petraflux.com>
... Have a look at this: http://daniel.staver.no/img/bo2.jpg That s what output with black + light black looks like. The print quality itself is excellent, but
Re: [Digital BW] Re: FWD (WRVR FM 104)Loyal Listener Club Mail: Feedback
2003-02-10 by Martin Wesley
Justin, The problem has been handled. Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html ... From: To:
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-10 by johngeyles <jge@cs.unc.edu>
... What workflow works best for you with BO printing ? Epson s profiles, somebody else s, or Printer COlor Management ? Thanks, John
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 7500 what inks should I use?
2003-02-10 by Ernst Dinkla
... also ... Then you are already in service mode for adjusting the heads manually (screwdriver included). So you have covered all adjustments. It is however
Re: 740 vs. 1280
2003-02-10 by gaberegalbuto <gaberegalbuto@yahoo.com>
I ve converted my 740 to quadtone using the FS Neutral inks. Works quite well. There will be no comparison for color work through.
Re: WHEN will we get simple, reliable BW printing??
2003-02-10 by johngeyles <jge@cs.unc.edu>
... importantly, ... can ... I m confused by this method. Does it, or does it not, use the Light Black ink in addition to the Photo Black or Matte Black
Whoops ...
2003-02-10 by BC <bcphoto@bellsouth.net>
A bit OT, but I ve got an Epson SC3000 that is printing machine code rather than the images being sent to the driver. Could someone post a reset step to get
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson 7500 what inks should I use?
2003-02-10 by Paul Roark
Ernst, Thanks for responding. ... I ve done the usual alignment that is accessible via the driver. I ve also checked the B & C Head Slant/Height adjustments