Spotting with pigment inks
2010-02-04 by David Kachel
I get imperfect prints more often than I would like that could be saved if I could spot them in the conventional analog sense. I have saved inks from my
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Re: Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by pr_roark
... So true. Mark at Aardenburg-Imaging is giving us a lot more information now by which we can at see whether the bottom line is reasonably consistent with
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by pr_roark
... Jon will have to clarify that. You re right, the tests I m aware of are the Carbon Sepia Piezotones. ... HP has done an excellent job of blending carbon
Re: Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by tboleyyh
sorry I was working on the previous reply before I came back and saw this... No I make no assumptions about the ink compositions other than believing outright
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by Tony Sleep
... Ha! Same story here, but it was Record Rapid that Agfa ruined by taking out all the noxious Cadmium, then withdrawing half the grades, and which I now
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by pr_roark
... If the results are posted here, it ll probably be a good exercise. If you are not familiar with graphing, I ll pull the results into Excel and post a
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by pr_roark
... Most of the B&W inksets are a blend of carbon and colors. We can t make a totally neutral inkset from carbon. The term carbon inkset has been used
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by Dave
... Thank you Paul. I assume this file and my Datacolor spectrocolorimeter will get me there. http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Spectro.pdf Should I post my
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by tboleyyh
... Paul, without hijacking the thread, let me just interject that the only inks we really absolutely know are 100% carbon are those we know you mix yourself,
Re: Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by pr_roark
... Do you think Cone Carbon Sepia and MIS Eboni are not 100% carbon pigment inksets in the sense that the image forming substance includes some colorants? The
Re: Canson Baryta Photographique and other F type papers.
2010-02-04 by tboleyyh
That s funny, because Michael and Marsha Burns taught me the Bromophen, Benzatrizole, Selenium combo for Portriga that with careful control seemed to hit that
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by David Kachel
... So what is in the other sets that is not carbon? David Kachel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-04 by pr_roark
... 100% carbon inksets are basically limited to the Cone sepia, MIS LK, etc., (both relatively warm but not full on sepia), 100% Eboni on 1.5 pl printers
Printer Choice for Project
2010-02-04 by William
Hi all, I m going to print a run of fine art greeting cards and I d like to get some opinions on what printer to purchase. My 2400 is starting to exhibit some
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by tboleyyh
gained momentum during the Age Of Enlightenment, becoming somewhat marginalized in contemporary times... I know I know, very OT... sorry T
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by shileshjani
+1 I especially like It s called physics Shilesh
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by tboleyyh
Additionally, metamerism failure is a fact of life, and basically a matter of degree. It also exists in carbon only ink prints (which is still a a mythical
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by David Kachel
... Speaking of screaming snobs ! David Kachel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
Fair enough. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by C D Tobie
... By reducing their product lines to only items that do not cross the legal line, such as prefilled cartridges... ... Photogs come in all favors, and most
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by C D Tobie
... The B9180 does not have two grays, HP dodges that issue by talking about three blacks but two of those are black, only one is a gray. Printers with two
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by David Kachel
... So how have Cone and MIS escaped the corporate wrath of Epson? ... Ah, the ever present lowest common denominator photographer who is always eager to
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
It s certainly not very pronounced, but I see it in the light midtones of my B9180 prints. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: Canson Baryta Photographique and other F type papers.
2010-02-03 by ClaytonJ
... This is partly OT (being a matte paper), but Hawk Mtn s Merlin Natural reacts uniquely with K3 inks. Unfortunately the Dmax is about 1.55, but it produces
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by C D Tobie
... Thats certainly a concern even amongst the biggest advocates of such sets (many of whom you will find on this list). Between legal decisions favoring the
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by David Kachel
... Despite the fact that OEM inks are clearly not what they should be yet with regard to longevity and that visually the aftermarket monotone ink sets have
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by C D Tobie
... True, but there is no visible metamerism in AWB, or even in Color Mode neutral prints on any of my Canon, HP, or Epson inkjets that use multiple grays in
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Paul Grant
Dave, You want to get a sample set from Jon Cone. He has a number of inksets that might fit what your looking for. And his sample pack is a great way to see
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Paul Grant
Dave, I have not found any on the MIS either? I have tried a couple of them in the past and had trouble with the cartridges and lots of frustration on my
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by David Kachel
... I couldn t find any similar offers of sample sets for MIS inks. Do they offer them? And if so, where? David Kachel
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
Thank you Paul. I ll do that.
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Paul Grant
Dave, You want to get a sample set from Jon Cone. He has a number of inksets that might fit what your looking for. And his sample pack is a great way to see
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
The idea of an all-carbon approach appeals to me. The most appealing aspect of it is the lack of illuminant metameric failure. From what I ve read here, the
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
I m willing to put in the time, as long as I know I ll be starting out with an inkset that s in the right ballpark. When I did darkroom work, it didn t take
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
Good question Paul, but I m not sure I ve really got a good answer... I started off using the -14 setting, but just before I uploaded the early work to my
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by David Kachel
... Using only pigments? Otherwise, might as well stick with OEM inks. David Kachel [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by dlruckus
IMHO like most things, the key to cost containment is in sweat equity and DIY. Getting into dedicated B&W printing need not be all that expensive either for
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Paul Grant
Dave, No answer for you but a curious question. Why do you find the need to move the balance from -14 to +45 for the old versus new work? Although the
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by R Craig Blackman
I WILL be watching the replies with great interest. I have similiar questions. Craig ________________________________ From: Dave To:
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by Dave
I ve been following this thread with great interest, and I ve got an inquiry that s very similar to the the original poster s. Eventually, I d like to move
Re: Red River Aurora Natural
2010-02-03 by Lutsky, Berel
Funny you should ask - just used it for the first time - 24 roll- on a Epson 7600 with Cone K7SE inkset - I used the curve in QTR for 2880 Bradford Natural
Re: [Digital BW] find I prefer matte
2010-02-03 by R Craig Blackman
Richard, did you mean class or was that a typo? Craig ________________________________ From: Richard King To:
Re: [Digital BW] Controlling individual channels with ICC
2010-02-03 by Ernst Dinkla
... Mind boggling it is but Paul did that trick already a long time ago. K black is used in the Epson driver when enough C,M,Y, reach a value that equal
Re: [Digital BW] Controlling individual channels with ICC
2010-02-03 by C D Tobie
... Its possible to force input RGB values that would trigger the K ink to a value where they will print only with other inks via a curveset or an ICC profile
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by C D Tobie
... No need to convert to Lab, just turn one of Photoshop s reporting panes to Lab, and sample a value that offers 50 as the first, value (L*) and record what
Re: Image quality display differences
2010-02-03 by Paul Kohl
I have to withdraw my question about the differences I found in the displays I was seeing between PS and Camera Raw. The problem was that in Photoshop I was
Re: [Digital BW] Image quality display differences
2010-02-03 by Michael King
you can also set Camera raw to sharpen for display only . I.e. I presume that means it sharpens the image for display, but doesn t actually sharpen the file
Re: [Digital BW] Image quality display differences
2010-02-03 by Paul Grant
Paul, Look at the bottom of the camera raw dialog box. See what the output settings are you. You may be overly enlarging the image or it may be too small or
Re: [Digital BW] Brown Tones w/ Carbon inks
2010-02-03 by pr_roark
... I was thinking of the final print Lab A and B for a midtone, as measured by a spectrophotometer. However, if you re printing on a calibrated color system,
Controlling individual channels with ICC
2010-02-03 by marko.mili
I just got a set of UT-14 inks to use on R280 and I m trying to understand PR s accompanying PDF. It says: Glossy Papers The system prints on glossy paper