Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Greg
... Check the ingredients on the next can/bottle of soda pop you drink. Also note that they are all poisonous in certain quantities. Propylene is considered
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Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Greg
... The glycols are fairly neutral PH, I thought these Alkydiol would probably be reacted with some kind of alkali to form the compound, but I m just guessing.
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Bruce
Check out this link from a brief discussion http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/Hbase/Organic/glycol.html ... From: john dean Sent:
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Greg
... John, There will be safer alternatives, the EU solvents and toxicity measures will make them appear sooner than later.
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Wikipedia is my friend. I see, it is used in everything. Everything from pharmacy, to anti-freeze, food, and most importantly in electronic cigarettes to
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Wikipedia is my friend. I see, it is used in everything. Everything from pharmacy, to anti-freeze, food, and most importantly in electronic cigarettes to
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by John
The most commonly known is Anti-freeze. ________________________________ From: john dean To:
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Bruce Watson
... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propylene_glycol Google is your friend. -- Bruce Watson
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Apart from inkjet chemistry, what is the primary industrial use of ethylene glycol or propylene glycol? Foolishly, I didn t take chemistry in college. j
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Bruce
alkyldiol is a general name for compounds such as ethylene glycol, propylene glycol and many other compounds of similar structure. ... From: john dean
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Paul, What would happen if you simply used the Vivera glop as a base and didn t add anything to it but the dilute light gray? I wish HP had a desktop model of
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Greg, It appears that a lot of the focus on the previous Epson patent you linked to has to do with the pigments being able to be received by the rc media. That
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Greg
... And this one: http://www.patents.com/Ink-composition/US7427641/en-US/ Looks like Epson has a new ink on the way.
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Greg
... Epson is using some form of this stuff too: http://www.patents.com/INKJET-RECORDING-METHOD/US20080152828/en-US/
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by pr_roark
John, ... You can Google much of this and get a picture of what they are doing. ... All the really secret stuff is hidden from view. Note the small amount of
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Thanks Paul, I can see you ve really looked into all this. It s pretty thought provoking. From that Gray Vivera data sheet they even have the proportions,
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by pr_roark
... See the HP MSDS for the grey ink at http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/globalcitizenship/environment/productdata/pdf/ij_c9451a_us_eng_v1.pdf ... The C6 base is
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
Right, that is why the Pk Vivera set up includes the gloss enhancer that works great for black and white that I ve done here on a variety of pk papers. Newer
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by pr_roark
... Yes, and I have. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf I use HP PK by itself in an Epson 1400 to print my brochures. The HP inks are lower
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by john dean
David, I m not sure I m following you. The Vivera inkset has a PK ( or MK), a Gray, and a light gray. All that would be needed is diluting that light gray
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-09 by Cdtobie
In theory one could. Keeping the different pigments in even suspension in the same cartridge could be a challenge, enough of a challenge that Paul R. has not
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-08 by john dean
So could one create a Hextone inkset made of diluted Vivera grays and put it in a Z3100 for super PK output? That s what I ve been thinking about for awhile,
Source of low cost computers -- OT
2009-08-08 by andre1moreau
IBM has been selling online low cost refurbished desktop and laptop computers for some time. There are refurbished and come with a new or near new keyboard and
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-08 by pr_roark
... Separation of the inks and color instability may be one reason. See page 4 of http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/4K+.pdf ... The neutral B&W and HP inks
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-08 by C D Tobie
... Your brainstorm is not unique; good ideas seldom are. This has been suggested in various ways to more than one printer manufacturer, by myself and by
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-08 by Richard Smallfield
Hi Ernst, I recalled the HP neutral grey too ... why on earth Epson hasn t adopted this approach is very hard to fathom. I ve compared a QTR with an ABW print
Re: [Digital BW] Low gamut pigments
2009-08-08 by Ernst Dinkla
... HP Z models + the B9180 etc desktop printers have a neutral grey ink range that has a high resistance to fading. Paul Roark has used some of the Vivera
Low gamut pigments
2009-08-08 by Richard Smallfield
Hi, in the shower this morning, it occurred to me: why doesn t Epson use low-gamut pigments, as manufacturers like Cone do, to make the K/LK/LLK inks neutral -
CISS Print Problem
2009-08-06 by kiwis_are_everywhere
Hi guys, Well, first off, this forum has a good reputation and was recommended by another forum on printing issues. So, just to encourage you all. I have
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2
2009-08-06 by Mark Savoia
I asked this before, are there any $ prizes or a real exhibition someplace? Is that in there someplace I missed? Mark http://www.stillrivereditions.com
Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2
2009-08-06 by ausdlk
I am astonished about the negative vibes coming from out on this forum and others because of the horizontal orientation limitation of the ACP home page
Re: [Digital BW] Double-Sided Glossy Paper
2009-08-06 by Roger
The paper I used was C6820A, HP Brochure and Flyer glossy, purchased a year ago. It may be a different paper as it definitely doesn t have a luster finish
Re: 3800 with standard Epson inks
2009-08-06 by Fred
I use the ColorBurst Lite RIP and I think the B&W (And color) prints I get with it are great.
Re: [Digital BW] ABW - Superfine or Superphoto?
2009-08-06 by Richard Smallfield
Hi, Sorry to have bothered you all with that - I think that, seeing that there is no difference in smoothness to the naked eye, 1440 / High Speed Off is the
Re: [Digital BW] ABW - Superfine or Superphoto?
2009-08-06 by Richard Smallfield
Hi, Sorry to have bothered you all with that - I think that, seeing that there is no difference in smoothness to the naked eye, 1440 / High Speed Off is the
Re: [Digital BW] Should I buy a 3800?
2009-08-06 by Terry Ritz
... I have a 2200 with Cone K7 Special Edition inks and a 3800 for colour work. The 3800 is relatively new to me, and it is a wonderful printer to work with.
ABW - Superfine or Superphoto?
2009-08-06 by Richard Smallfield
Hello all, I m about to print profiling charts for my new 3800 and am not sure whether to opt for Superfine or Superphoto - both colour and for ABW. Does
Re: [Digital BW] Re: OT: Web site "finished"
2009-08-05 by mike-theprint@waspfactory.org
... In practice RSS (Real Simple Syndication) is used to aggregate updates from a bunch of different websites into a feed reader , so a user doesn t need to
Re: 3800 with standard Epson inks
2009-08-05 by Vincent Orlando
I use the advanced B&W mode with the 3800 and get beautiful prints. Vinny www.wulfsden.com
Re: OT: Web site "finished"
2009-08-05 by pr_roark
... Very nice. Did you use a software package aimed at photographers or artists? A gallery webmaster recently recommended blog software to a local group of
Re: Matte paper with Adhesive back
2009-08-05 by Seth Rossman
Most of the on-line label companies have this. They call it bumper sticker stock. In both laser and inkjet. Search data labels. ===============
Re: 3800 with standard Epson inks
2009-08-05 by rgrbrrtt
I agree with Joost.Try the Epson inks with QTR and see how you like it. I print both colour and B&W and don t have the space or the money for two printers so I
Re: Call for Entries -- ACP Home Page Contest No.2
2009-08-05 by nickskin0
Only allowing a landscape format is certainly an interesting decision to make, and judging by the reaction of some posts, probably not that well received. I
Re: 3800 with standard Epson inks
2009-08-05 by Joost Horsten
... Not only the printer and inks, but also the way you drive it are of influence. There is only one person that can judge what is good enough and that is
3800 with standard Epson inks
2009-08-05 by yaakovsinclair
With reference to my previous post. Are the Epson out of the box inks good enough to print B and W? Or will I still need the piezo inks? thanks!
Should I buy a 3800?
2009-08-05 by yaakovsinclair
On the brink of buying an Epson 3800 and teaming it with Piezography inks. Would love some feedback from anyone whose got this route. thanks to all! visit my
Re: [Digital BW] Double-Sided Glossy Paper
2009-08-05 by Bob Marsolais
The results are in. I just printed a color (sorry about that!) image on a sheet of HP s double-sided glossy 48 brochure paper, part number C7020A. Not having
RE: [Digital BW] OT: Web site "finished"
2009-08-05 by Richard Smallfield
Hi Bob, thanks a lot for that :-) Richard ... ____________ http://www.richardsmallfield.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
RE: [Digital BW] OT: Web site "finished"
2009-08-05 by Robert Paup
Very nice site. Your pictures are full of meaning. Keep up the good work. Bob _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
OT: Web site "finished"
2009-08-04 by Richard Smallfield
Hello Everyone, I have just finished my website - I say finished , because websites are like housework - there s always more to do. (I have not yet added a