Thanks for all answers. I will use the archive first in the future before
posting a question. I wasn't aware of it because I only use my email-client
for reading and posting. I only used my web-browser when I was signing up.
For me as a beginner I can see that the search-function is very handy to
look for a specific issue. Thanks for pointing that out. I agree it should
help with a FAQ when signing up. I see that this group is very active and I
hope I can both learn a lot and even contribute to the group with my
knowledge.
- Ulf Widen
Sweden
-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: flyfishingusa2002 [mailto:tflyfish@...]
Skickat: den 4 december 2003 01:04
Till: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Ämne: Please, no more scanner posts!SV: [Digital BW] Re: Beginner
Ulf and others,
Please do not be put off on asking any question relating to
DigitalBlackandWhite ThePrint here. But there is a very obvious box
at the top of the message index that says "Search Archive". I just
entered "Scanner" and came up with enough information to fill the
British Libary.
I use this search engine on a regular basis to find the answer to
most of my questions. If you can't find the answer you are seeking
here then please post your question, of observation, here and I am
sure you will get much help.
Scanner questions have been beaten to death of late, why anybody
with decent file would try to scan without a drum scanner is beyond
me personally. I tried using a flatbed and a Nikon scanner and gave
up. Digital is the way to go. I am not that good at digital darkroom
processing, but I can produce a very nice B/W using a old Epson 3000
the likes of which I seldom have seen from most of the pro
processing outfits over the years.
Please use the "Search Archive" first.
Sierra Gold
PS if there is anyone out there wanting to visit Yosemite this
winter and would like to walk in Ansel Adams footsteps, so to speak,
please get in touch with me as I am considering hosting a trip there
which might require some snowshoes! I want to capture a "Clearing
Storm"
-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roger L Sopher"
<rlsopher@c...> wrote:
> Hi Ulf,
>
> The group website contains the archives and you can do a search
from there.
> It is useful to try a search through the old material to help you
become
> more specific with your questions. Often you will have to winnow
through a
> lot of "stuff" before finding useful information particularly if
the
> children have been having flame wars in and about a particular
subject.
> Also. be aware that this is a rapidly developing craft that is
neither a
> finished nor an exact science and there is a lot of opinion as
well as hard
> earned experience involved. Even after going through the archives
one may
> still not find "the answer."
>
> Don't an occasional curt reply dissuade you from asking questions,
it's the
> only way to get specific answers if indeed such are available.
>
> Roger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ulf Widén [mailto:ulfwiden@t...]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: SV: Please, no more scanner posts!SV: [Digital BW] Re:
Beginner
>
>
> I am so sorry for my question. I didn't now that there is a
database to
> search. As I am a beginner to this I haven't follow the
postings. Please,
> apology for my posts. Maybe it's best for me to be silence, as I
don't
> want
> to offend anyone.
>
> Regards
> Ulf Widen
>
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: flyfishingusa2002 [mailto:tflyfish@c...]
> Skickat: den 3 december 2003 22:51
> Till: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m
> Ämne: Please, no more scanner posts!SV: [Digital BW] Re: Beginner
>
> The subject of scanners has been hacked to death here. So why not
> read through the database of posts before starting yet another
> thread about it.
>
> This is Ad Nausium..( Sorry my Latin is not all that)
>
> Sierra Gold.
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tom Baker
> <tbaker1328@s...> wrote:
> > I scan 4"x5" film on a 3200. I'm happy with the results.
> However, I've tried small film and found the results not
acceptable
> to me.
> >
> > Tom Baker
> >
> > Conrad Weiser <radimus@p...> wrote:
> > I have an Epson 2450 and am rather pleased with it. No
problems,
> no
> > banding, no newton rings that I can see. With a flatbed like
this
> you
> > won't get the same quality as you would with a film scanner,
but
> for
> > medium format you get plenty. I use a Minolta Dimage Scan
Dual II
> for
> > 35mm film, and the Epson 2450 for medium format.
> >
> > If you get an Epson 3200, look into one of these. I plan to
order
> one soon:
> >
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~dougfisher/holder/mfholderintro.html
> >
> > Rad
> >
> > Ulf Widén wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for your answer. I have both 35mm and medium-format
(6x7)
> and I have
> > > asked for price on such scanner and it was too much for me
as a
> beginner I
> > > think. I have looked at the Minolta 5600 and it looked to be
a
> good choice.
> > > However, a friend of mine recommends Epson 3200 because I
could
> use it for
> > > negative up to 6x9. I am a little skeptic to this. I have
heard
> that
> > > flatbed-scanners are no good for scanning neg/dia. Have
anyone
> comments on
> > > that. It would be very hand if the Epson is usable, but I
have
> no clue.
> > >
> > > -Ulf Widen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Ulf,
> > >
> > >
> > >>I am a beginner in using digital media in photography. I do
have
> > >>a lot of B/W-negative from late 60's to now. I have mainly
used
> > >>Tri-X, HP5, FP4 and Pan F.
> > >
> > >
> > >>Is it possible to get decent prints from scanned negative
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>and which >scanner is recommended for B/W.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best results will come from a film scanner, not a flatbed.
You
> didn't
> > > say what format. For 35mm, 2700 dpi scanners are around
$200-300
> > > (Minolta). 4000dpi scanners are around $500 I think (Canon,
> Nikon).
> > > The newest Minolta 5400dpi is around $750 (I have one of
these,
> it's
> > > great).
> > >
> > > For medium format, 4000 dpi scanners start at around $1700
for
> the
> > > discontinued Nikon 8000, and about $2700 for the latest
model.
> > >
> > > Take all these prices with a grain of salt. Things change
> constantly,
> > > but it should give you an idea.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>I also would appreciate a recommendation of printer.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lots of choices here. I'll leave that to other forum
members.
> > >
> > >
> > > Welcome to the Forum!
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Clayton
> > >
> > >
> > > Info on black and white digital printing at
> > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> >
> >
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