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2008-11-25 by laryn91
>I thought we were using analogue > gear because of its colour and impurities? Some of us like the sound of analog because of its continuous (un-encoded) signal - not because of sloppy or low-quality product designs. BTW, do you think digital doesn't add color and impurities too?
2008-11-25 by achtung_999
Excuse me Argitoth, but if you're so obsessed with pure sine waves, go digital. Buy Max/MSP or learn SuperCollider.I thought we were using analogue gear because of its colour and impurities? At least I am. And I'll say it again: Buy an A143-9 if you want nice sinewaves. It goes f
2008-11-24 by Argitoth
man, I feel jipped now. Every oscillator that doesn't have a clean sine is simply using cheap parts? that suks. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 4:43 PM, laryn91 wrote: > My Aries modular VCOs have a triangular core that also forms the square and > sine output. > There's a second sync'd c
2008-11-24 by Don Kim
I was refering to you and your "perfect" sine. On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Argitoth wrote: > Don Kim, all it takes to get a clean sine is to find the right > oscillator. You shouldn't discourage people looking for a little bit > of perfection in their modular synth. > >
2008-11-24 by Argitoth
Don Kim, all it takes to get a clean sine is to find the right oscillator. You shouldn't discourage people looking for a little bit of perfection in their modular synth.
2008-11-24 by Don Kim
A perfect sine would give you no harmonics. I'm pretty sure that the harmonics is what gives a sine out of an oscillator it's character. The ASys sine is not bad, that's a personal opinion. The waveforms on my scope show the M15 as the most mathematically sine like, the ASys has
2008-11-24 by Argitoth
So far I think from best to wrost, (but I'm not so sure) it's 1. Plan B VCO Sine (good) 2. Tip Top Audio VCO (a little better than Analogue Systems? Never owned one of these) 3. Analogue Systems VCO Sine (bad) 4. Doepfer A-110 (worse) Laryn91, your vintage MODULES or your vintage
2008-11-24 by laryn91
My Aries modular VCOs have a triangular core that also forms the square and sine output. There's a second sync'd core for sawtooth output (so no glitch). It's their differential transistor tri-to-sine converter that makes the high quality sine output. Moog, Arp, Polyfusion, etc.
2008-11-24 by Argitoth
i dunno how useful this is, but whatever, it's an analogue systems vco test: http://www.elanhickler.com/misc/AnalogueSystemsVCO.wav (sine first, triangle second) http://www.elanhickler.com/misc/analoguesystems_sine.PNG http://www.elanhickler.com/misc/analoguesystems_tri.PNG On Mo
2008-11-24 by laryn91
Out of curiosity, which euro oscillators have quality sine wave outputs? All my Doepfer osc's (including the "High-End") have really crap (useless) sine shapes. Even my favorite Zeroscillator becomes grossly distorted at lower freq's. And according to this thread, it looks like A
2008-11-24 by Herman Pearl
FS: 4MS Atoner + Copilot FX Gyroscope Hey list, a couple of things that I'm not using as much as I thought I would need to go out to the world for someone to have fun with. 4MS Pedals: The Atoner $140 + shipping (cheap) http://4mspedals.com/atoner.php Amazing, sick, awesome, gate
2008-11-24 by argitoth
So here's the A-106-1 demo I promised: http://www.elanhickler.com/misc/analog_techno.mp3 -Analogue Systems VCO -A-136 Waveshaper (used to shape the initial waveform) -A-106-1 Xtreme Filter (highpass only) -random voltage --> VCO Pitch Modulation in some cases. -Recorded everythin
2008-11-24 by James Husted
Actually that is not the case. If you make the video full screen you can see the output of the Z3000 is being used. when he changes waveforms you can see him re-patch the output cord to the other waveform jack. Also there is nothing plugged into the External in for the frequency
2008-11-24 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> I know this requires modules with pcbs mounted not rectangular, but > parallel to the front - but the times for changes will come sooner or > later anyway ;-) > > Florian A-111-5 is already built in this version with pcb in parallel to the front panel and with smd parts - as we
2008-11-24 by Florian Anwander
Hi, > Both technical and economical have to be considered before we > start a new module One economic aspect of new modules might be also to open a new market with a new target group. I think there are a lot of people, who want some gear with advanced functions like available in
2008-11-24 by yahoo@doepfer.de
Out customer Stefan Breitenfeld has programmed another Java based A-100 planner. Unfortunately Andrew Parker has no time to update and correct his planner as he is very busy at the moment (some modules are missing and the prices and width of some module are not correct). Here is
2008-11-24 by David Salter
Dieter, Fully understand about reluctance to work with tubes. I believe that Eric of Metasonix is looking into Euro format tube modules. David * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * David Salter Senior Consultant SSG UKI Thomson Reuters O +4
2008-11-24 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> I would LOVE a Miniwave in 12V, particularly if the board could fit in a > A100P-depth case. > I've got 2 mounted in a rack, but I can't take em out to gig, at least not > very practically. > > Thanks, > Daniel Please refer to my message from Nov.21, 2007: "We developed kind of
2008-11-24 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Howdy folks, how about a universal tube module/acoustic generator > that is able to process audio and control voltages? Also include vc > of the tube saturation and/or presence. > > Personally, I'd like a 12A_7 socket for the diverse selection of > tubes avaialble. Perhaps Diet
2008-11-24 by yahoo@doepfer.de
> Dear Dieter, dear listmembers, > > In 2006, there was an idea about an voltage controlled arpeggiator > module. Florian had some nice ideas about it, and if I remember well > there was already a poll on it too. > > Main features that were mentioned at the time: > > - Midi in >
2008-11-24 by jeswa
Please let me know if you have these (one or both) and are willing to sell them. Thanks.
2008-11-24 by Don Kim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOgA8Q-MtH8 scope of my Z3000 FMed by PlanB M15 On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:32 PM, James Husted wrote: > I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it. > - http://vimeo.com/2206614 > That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and
2008-11-24 by James Husted
I was hot for the Tiptop VCO till I saw this video made about it. - http://vimeo.com/2206614 That is one of the worst sine waves I've seen and the spectrum display shows many harmonics that shouldn't be there. I count at least 7 on the spectrum display. . All I can hope is the di
2008-11-24 by Ed Goldfarb
I'm right there with Tim/Thighpaulsandra - I have two, and I'd buy two more. No DIY, though - I just want a Euro Miniwve that I can plug in and rock out with :-) Peace and love, Ed -- Ed Goldfarb Madcap Labs Audio Objects Marin County, CA 415 377-5831 madcaplabs@comcast.net
2008-11-24 by Daniel Ornelas
I would LOVE a Miniwave in 12V, particularly if the board could fit in a A100P-depth case. I've got 2 mounted in a rack, but I can't take em out to gig, at least not very practically. Thanks, Daniel On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM, John Blacet wrote: > I'm trying to decide if th
2008-11-23 by Dave Jones
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 03:14:04PM -0800, Don Kim wrote: > The only obstacle might be the size of the board since so many euro > users have the suitcase, which the miniwave will not fit w/o > separating the board from the face like noissource did. Fits fine in > my Analogue Syste
2008-11-23 by Don Kim
The only obstacle might be the size of the board since so many euro users have the suitcase, which the miniwave will not fit w/o separating the board from the face like noissource did. Fits fine in my Analogue Systems case and I think other rackmount cases. -Don On Sun, Nov 23, 2
2008-11-23 by achtung_999
actually the A143-9 Quadrature LFO makes a near perfect sine.I'm curious what Dieter's quadrature VCO will sound like! Ernst On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 10:45 PM, Derek Holzer wrote: > Hi, > > sure, you can never get a perfect sine out of an analog circuit, but the > AS VCO has a kno
2008-11-23 by Alex Pearson
And I just broke down and rocked a frac... On 11/23/08, Pierre Zeeman wrote: > Sorry - that's ditto to Bakis's comment about an assembled one. > > On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Pierre Zeeman infrequent.listener@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ditto - and I have a frac rack miniwave...
2008-11-23 by davevosh@aol.com
there is a VCF with linear FM cv hello - the wiard omni-filter offers this feature also and has for several years. best, dave **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.atwola.com/pro
2008-11-23 by alt_mode
John, The problem with a EuroRack miniwave is that it is too deep to fit into any of the Doepfer suitcase cabinets. I don't expect you to layout the board again to make it fit but it is a constraint for some EuroRack users. I'm contemplating replacing a FracRack with a Doepfer G3
2008-11-23 by Bakis Sirros
yes, there is a VCF with linear FM cv input. its the onboard VCF in the A111-2 Dynamic vco module. well, in this VCF, the linear fm input is normalled to the triangle out of the VCO. but, you can control the fm index via a cv input (that is, the gain cv of a lin. VCA before the l
2008-11-23 by Derek Holzer
Hi, sure, you can never get a perfect sine out of an analog circuit, but the AS VCO has a knob which shapes the wave from a sinusoid in the middle to a triangular waveform at the edges. If you don't get the knob *exactly* in the middle, the wave sounds very angular already. A ded
2008-11-23 by Pierre Zeeman
Sorry - that's ditto to Bakis's comment about an assembled one. On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:39 PM, Pierre Zeeman wrote: > Ditto - and I have a frac rack miniwave... > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2008-11-23 by Pierre Zeeman
Ditto - and I have a frac rack miniwave... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2008-11-23 by Argitoth
Derek Holzer, I don't know anything about curcuit boards, but isn't the distorted sine problem a design flaw, not a feature flaw? What I mean is, even if that waveshaping knob wasn't included, you probably wouldn't be able to get a less buzzy sine. It just takes a good set of ear
2008-11-23 by pfichoux
Wiard ? I'd rather like to give my money to Dieter. If it does exist, perhaps it is an interesting feature. --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, davevosh@... wrote: > > > > > there is a VCF with linear FM cv > > > > > hello - > the wiard omni-filter offers this feature also and h
2008-11-23 by Tim Lewis
Yes, absolutely. I have two Miniwaves with front panels by Peter Grenader. I'd love two more. Best wishes, Thighpaulsandra On 23 Nov 2008, at 20:59, John Blacet wrote: > I'm trying to decide if this would generate any interest? > > We can redo the PCB so that it has a Doepfer con
2008-11-23 by Bakis Sirros
if you would sell this as a complete, ready to go, module, i would be very interested and i think many other euro users would be too. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ p
2008-11-23 by Derek Holzer
I also think that if you are going to invest in a module, make it a good one and make it the one you want rather than just the one you can afford. That is the nice thing about modular is that you can build it up over time. The thing that makes the Buchla special isn't necessarily
2008-11-23 by John Blacet
I'm trying to decide if this would generate any interest? We can redo the PCB so that it has a Doepfer connector and will work on 12V. There is a source for a nice Doepfer style front panel. An assembled board with pots, LEDs installed would go for $199. You or a specific vendor
2008-11-23 by pfichoux
1V/oct is a common feature for VCF, although I doubt that filters have a nice tracking. I wonder if it does exist a VCF with linear fm CV input.
2008-11-23 by Argitoth
Sean Hart, if you are harboring the mindset that you have to buy all doepfer modules because you have a "limited" budget of $2000, you should get rid of that mindset. Not all doepfer modules give you the most features for the least money. Some modules from other manufacturers cos
2008-11-23 by Bakis Sirros
the Doepfer/euro modulars can make amazing sounds with the right programming. Buchla excels at specirfic sounds, Doepfer/euro modulars excel at others. all modulars have their strengths and weaknesses... its not the best idea, for example, to make tonal stuff with a Buchla (of co
2008-11-23 by Richard Scott
yes, if you bring your 2000e with you my couch is in berlin R ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean Hart To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 8:18 PM Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular oh, i know it will not sound like a buchla. i am conv
2008-11-23 by Joey Fedrow
If your coming from a buchla background, I suspect you'll be sorely disappointed by the doepfer. You might want to just start saving for a 200e. --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Sean Hart wrote: From: Sean Hart Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
2008-11-23 by Sean Hart
oh, i know it will not sound like a buchla. i am convinced that thing could make anything sound weak. but a 200e is a whole lot of money and i don't think it would be fiscally responsible for me to take out an equity line on the house to get a synth. though the though has crossed
2008-11-23 by Bakis Sirros
sounds very interesting! i have the Tube VCA module from Metalbox/CGS and like its tonality. Dieter? Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace.
2008-11-23 by Bakis Sirros
told you so... :-) Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist [Doepfer_a100] group owner www. parallel - worlds - music. com www. myspace. com/ parallelworldsmusic www. myspace. com/ interconnectedmusic www. myspace. com/ memorygeist www. DiN. org. uk www. mus
2008-11-23 by Sean Hart
my intention is to start with simple system, i will eventually replace and add more and different osc's and have a decent variety of filters. i would also add an external input/envelope follower for processing external sounds. i am very fond of LFOs and the various ways you can a