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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-12-01 by laryn91

You must fall into this group: " I'm guessing you're either unfamiliar with or never > designed sounds > using Additive Synthesis. " I and many others successfully use Additive techniques on our analog synthesizers every day. Just because YOU can't or don't know how, you shouldn'

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] VC electro-motor?

2008-12-01 by Denis Gökdag

Good point, i guess i'll want to use some PC power supply for the motor. Cheers! d On Dec 1, 2008, at 5:07 PM, achtung_999 wrote: > I'd say check out how much current this baby is going to suck from > the a100.You > don't want to blow the powersupply in your a100, I guess. > > P

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] VC electro-motor?

2008-12-01 by achtung_999

I'd say check out how much current this baby is going to suck from the a100.You don't want to blow the powersupply in your a100, I guess. P = I * U So check the wattage of the motor. But you probably already did. Greets Ernst On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Denis Gökdag wrote: >

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-12-01 by laryn91

By your question, I'm guessing you're either unfamiliar with or never designed sounds using Additive Synthesis. But quality sines are a necessary component for these cool class of sounds. For example, if you wanted to create a sound similar in character and dynamics of a flute, y

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-12-01 by Monroe Eskew

You could say that about any waveform, instrument, songbird, or Christopher Walken. On Dec 1, 2008, at 6:51 AM, Argitoth wrote: > perfect sines can create sound that only perfect sines can create, > musical and non-musical. > > On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Monroe Eskew > wrote

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VC electro-motor?

2008-12-01 by Denis Gökdag

Hi all, i want to build myself a little VC electro motor, you know, one of these little model-plane 12V motors but with VC RPM. It's not supposed to track V/oct cleanly, just be somewhat predictably controllable via a CV. I'm not much of an electronics genius, but i figured that

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-12-01 by Argitoth

perfect sines can create sound that only perfect sines can create, musical and non-musical. On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Monroe Eskew wrote: > I'm just curious what relevance to music is. It doesn't make sense to > complain when a flute doesn't produce a pure sine. Each instru

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FS: Eurorack, Modcan

2008-12-01 by damon

I've got a lot of modular for sale. All are located in Seattle, WA. Paypal only, please. The first batch: EURORACK -------- Analog Systems: rs20 ring mod $140 rs50 trigger $170 rs150 switch $180 rs160 cv mix $90 rs160 cv mix $90 rs165 audio $90 rs180 vca $130 rs260 quantize $240

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-12-01 by Monroe Eskew

I'm just curious what relevance to music is. It doesn't make sense to complain when a flute doesn't produce a pure sine. Each instrument has its own character and musical desirability. Lots of the best tones from analog synths are far from pure sine. I can see why someone would w

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AW: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-12-01 by yahoo@doepfer.de

> Hi laryn91 > > > I don't get it either. All I asked is if anyone knows of any > euro VCO that can produce a sine > > wave without audible harmonic distortion (Plan-B and ZO so > far). To me this a very useful > > feature. > I don't know that there would exist any schematic for

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massive banana euro modular for sale

2008-12-01 by cray5656

I have decided that I will sell my complete euro modular... its like an early Serge / Buchla ie banana jacks and 1/4inch jacks etc... WHY ???? I have 6 Buchla panels to fill....I will buy more euro stuff again 2010. I have added up the system in second hand pricing as US$3945...s

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-30 by laryn91

Hi Florian, Maybe I don't understand the issue, but seems to me this should FM correctly. The sine converter *always* maintains an exact phase lock with the tri core. So however the core is modulated the correct sine phase is produced. Do you have a specific example where this wo

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-30 by Florian Anwander

Hi Laryn > Actually the high-quality sine circuit is *quite* common. According to my schematic > library, most vintage oscillators used this standard design. For example, my Aries VCOs > produce a pretty good purity sine using this: > > http://www.leinermedia.net/aries/AriesSchem

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-30 by Bakis Sirros

hi Group, ALL opinions are respectable in this group. some people want pure sinewaves, others do not care. both have the right to their opinion. but, please, no posts like the 'poop' one above... thanks for your understanding, best regards, Bakis. Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds /

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RE: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Anthony Rolando

I hate to break it to you, but there is nothing terribly different, complex or expensive about the SINE circuit in the schematic linked below. Pretty common stuff. TOny > To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com > From: caymus91@mac.com > Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:18:24 +0000 > Subject:

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by nicholas_kent

One should really let one's ears judge these things. The special quality of sine waves at least to me is one shouldn't be hearing any harmonics at all. If you do then it's "almost a sine" or a distorted sine, or something but not a sine. Unfortunately I heard that way back in the

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by laryn91

Please give more details - which Euro VCOs are using this circuit? I don't see this in any Doepfer VCO nor any of m ASys. I'm guessing Plan-B and ZO do use it. Who else? Ask Dieter if it adding 2 additional trimpots, a matched transistor pair and the labor to calibrate and set tw

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Nicholas Gregorich

In theory maybe you're correct, but what really matters is in practice, right? ;) A digital sinusoid can easily be made to have a spurious-free response greater than the dynamic range of any DAC I know of (and probably greater than the dynamic range of the analog system the signa

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Florian Anwander

Hi Monroe > What is the consensus on the AS RS-95? I don't have the schematics, but estimating from the features in the owners manual, this sine is derived from the triangle - or it is a wavetable which is read from a highest quality highspeed VCO (which I again doubt for this pr

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Monroe Eskew

What is the consensus on the AS RS-95? I don't have an oscilloscope or a spectrum analyzer, but the sines from mine sound pretty clean, and when I run it through a filter and sweep the cutoff frequency above the fundamental, I can't hear any changes, which suggests harmonic purit

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Monroe Eskew

Isn't it true that in theory, analog should have purer waveforms than digital? Digitally produced waves are limited by the bit resolution, so on a small scale they are step functions. Analog oscillators may produce distorted shapes but at least they are truly smooth functions. Ri

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Florian Anwander

Hi laryn91 > I don't get it either. All I asked is if anyone knows of any euro VCO that can produce a sine > wave without audible harmonic distortion (Plan-B and ZO so far). To me this a very useful > feature. I don't know that there would exist any schematic for this. I never ha

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by laryn91

Actually the high-quality sine circuit is *quite* common. According to my schematic library, most vintage oscillators used this standard design. For example, my Aries VCOs produce a pretty good purity sine using this: http://www.leinermedia.net/aries/AriesSchematics/AR-317s.gif M

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by laryn91

Actually the high-quality sine circuit is *quite* common. According to my schematic library, most vintage oscillators used this standard design. For example, my Aries VCOs produce a pretty good purity sine using this: http://www.leinermedia.net/aries/AriesSchematics/AR-317s.gif M

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by laryn91

I don't get it either. All I asked is if anyone knows of any euro VCO that can produce a sine wave without audible harmonic distortion (Plan-B and ZO so far). To me this a very useful feature. But my request seems to get hijacked by self-righteous posters who expect everyone to e

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by madrayken

Only just joined this curiously tense thread. Is there something so fundamentally (unintended joke) annoying about wanting sine waves when spending well over a thousand pounds on a mono-synth? *I* want sine waves as pure as possible because I like using ring mod which tends to so

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RE: Starting a modular-Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by David Westling

This reminds me of the way people regarded the difference between the Moog and Emu modular components back in the late 1970s. The consensus seemed to be that Emu was "too clean" and that Moog had the edge sonically because of the slight imperfections in the filters and oscillator

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-29 by Monroe Eskew

So what is the purpose of this? Isn't a slightly imperfect sine impossible to distinguish aurally? And can't you filter out any imperfections to near-silence with an LPF? On Nov 28, 2008, at 10:02 AM, laryn91 wrote: > My ZO starts to distort at lower freqs (looks like a square wi

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-28 by achtung_999

maybe you should expand your horizons a bit.It acts quite nicely as a VCO. It actually smashes the A110 concerning sinewaves. But be like this man.. Your loss. On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:41 PM, laryn91 wrote: > Ah... maybe YOU are the one not reading well ;-) > > I asked about a V

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-28 by Bakis Sirros

or maybe Cyndustries Zeroscillator...i think that should also have a very good sinewave. that said, i also really like a lot the sine of the A111's (i use them all the time!) and the sine of the AFG (regarding Euro). Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds / Interconnected / Memory Geist

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-28 by achtung_999

You are not reading well: I also said: "Or get an 143-9" I even attached a picture of its near perfect sine waves. Or wait for Dieter's quadrature VCO. And yes the 143-9 does not track well in the 1v/oct world (for anyone bothering with that kind of futilities). On Fri, Nov 28, 2

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-28 by laryn91

My ZO starts to distort at lower freqs (looks like a square with rounded corners). So it's a sine for only part of its range. I'm not so much interested about whose *distorted* sine wave sounds best, but who's sine output actually has no audible harmonic distortion (i.e fundament

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-28 by laryn91

Ah... maybe YOU are the one not reading well ;-) I asked about a VCO (not LFO). --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, achtung_999 wrote: > > You are not reading well: > I also said: "Or get an 143-9" I even attached a picture of its near perfect > sine waves. > Or wait for Dieter'

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Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-28 by laryn91

I originally asked if anybody sold a VCO with undistorted sine outputs. In summary here are the replies I got: 1 - Manufactures claim they can spec any wave with rounded peaks as "Sine". Even if you can clearly hear even harmonic distortion - any roundish looking shape is a close

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] MIDI Converter Design?

2008-11-27 by Laurie Biddulph

Available shortly - yes Limited edition - no, this will be another member of the Panther family and will supersede the current PolyDAC board I offer. Best Regards (Mr) Laurie Biddulph Phone: +61 (0)2 4340 0938 Mobile: 0400 257 645 Elby Designs ABN: 70 022 727 605 http://www.elby-

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stereo use of A134 panner

2008-11-26 by Richard Scott

how doesa it work to send a stereo signal in and out of the a134? Somehow I can't get what the manual is telling me I understand it is possible to pan a mono signal between two outputs, and that it is possible to crossfade a stereo signal to a single output if I stick a (perfect!

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-26 by york luethje

Why ban people? I found the debate lively at first, although it later turned somewhat obnoxious. Dieter Doepfer has given an excellent reply and I think matters should rest there. York ________________________________ From: kovski774 To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesd

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FS: 4MS Atoner (sold) Copilot FX Gyroscope (available)

2008-11-26 by Herman Pearl

Hey list, Atoner is sold, someone needs to pick up this killer Gyroscope! Copilot FX: Gyroscope: $120 + shipping (cheap) http://www.copilotfx.com/gyroscope.html Gyroscope is a Filter modulated by an independent Triangle Wave or Stepped Wave. This is a one of a kind prototype, not

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular - Z3000 waveform quality?

2008-11-26 by achtung_999

I would say just ignore him. He's just 19 years old so please excuse his manners. ;-) On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Florian Anwander wrote: > Answer to this direct to Mr. kovski774 and Bakis. > > regards, Florian > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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berlin area synth diy types

2008-11-26 by Derek Holzer

Howdy, can any of you in Berlin, Germany who might be interested in getting together to meet and have workshops on DIY synthbuilding stuff get in touch with me off-list, auf Englisch bitte. I have some ideas for after New Years that I will post in public when the time is right. b

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