Doepfer

ok list,
it is brainstorm time again!
if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
module, just say it!
i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
and out of them i'll create some new polls.
i am waiting...
best regards,
Bakis.




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1)
voltage controlled police scanner.

a gate signal would trigger the search or scan function. attenuated cv
for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot for frequency ranges
which could also be cv controlled like the 107 morphing filter or the
mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could step through the
ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate signal could be
used to scan that bank/range. also if you had storable presets you
could step through specific frequencies controlled by gate signals.
for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say a bank of 100
preset frequencies...

2)
5.1 surround voltage controlled mixer. (posted this idea to the plan b
list a while back)

separate vcas for all 5 outputs. and cv controlled 360 degree panning.
(which could possibly be hooked up to the joystick/Theremin module). 
could also be used as a really strange cv mixer. it would be good to
have a summed (folded down) stereo out puts as well as discrete
outputs for each channel.

3)
smokeless ashtray module. 

this way you could play a gig somewhere where you are not allowed to
smoke (everywhere?) and if the synth was placed correctly/large enough
you could have a smoke while you played without anyone knowing...

--david


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> ok list,
> it is brainstorm time again!
> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!
> i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> i am waiting...
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
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> Athens-Greece
> 
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Hello Bakis,

I already mentioned this some months ago:

I'd like to have something, what I call a general addon module:
This should enhance the input/output-features of mostly audio related 
modules.
* For the output I'd like to have simple multiples (three or four sockets).
* For the input section there MUST be a crossfader (real logarithmic 
stereo potentiometer - no voltage control). This feature is definitely 
necessary for live performance.
* Also two or three additional inputs with gain should be provided. The 
inputs should be selectable for AC/DC coupling.
* There should be the possibility to hardwire the inputs and the output 
multiples to the corresponding 'main'-module.


Regards, Florian

Ok, this is pretty far out but bare with me....
Imagine a keyboard that had zero key travel...and was pressure and velocity 
sensitive....call it a 'touch keyboard' if you will.  This 'keyboard' could 
also have sequencer type functions or since it would be incorporated into a 
modular environment be used to trigger various sorts of events.

Just a thought.


>ok list,
>it is brainstorm time again!

Hi bakis


> nice idea! before i make a new poll, please, could you
> explain a bit more what the possible applications of
> such a module would be?
basically the idea for this module comes from building modular patches 
from the scratch while a live performance. You will want to add more and 
more modules to the audio signal path.
If you have a system with a lot of audiomixers and muliples (e.g. the 
Roland 100m), this is no problem.
With the A100 this requires everytime to break up the signal path, which 
is close to "stop your musical performance". Similar is valid for adding 
additional control voltages to a module, which provides only one 
adjustable CV input.

The idea of my module is to extend modules like all the VCFs or similar 
(VC-Phasers, BBDs, Waveshapers...) with additional audio inputs, 
additional CV-inputs and additional outputs.

Additionally to this simple extension, came the thought, that it is not 
so easy to crossfade from one source to another with two normal mixer 
inputs - a real crossfader is much better.

If you hardwire the summing points of the mixers to the corresponding 
main module you even do not need any active elements or powersupply.

I will try to make a sketch drawing of a (block) diagram and a potential 
frontplate draft.


Florian

hello david,
nice one with the smokeless ashtray module...(how many
cigarettes should it hold, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10?)    :-)
i assume that your "VC police scanner module" is a
joke too, right?
regards,
Bakis.





--- david rothbaum <david@davidrothbaum.com> wrote:

> 1)
> voltage controlled police scanner.
> 
> a gate signal would trigger the search or scan
> function. attenuated cv
> for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot for
> frequency ranges
> which could also be cv controlled like the 107
> morphing filter or the
> mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could
> step through the
> ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate
> signal could be
> used to scan that bank/range. also if you had
> storable presets you
> could step through specific frequencies controlled
> by gate signals.
> for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say a
> bank of 100
> preset frequencies...
> 
> 2)
> 5.1 surround voltage controlled mixer. (posted this
> idea to the plan b
> list a while back)
> 
> separate vcas for all 5 outputs. and cv controlled
> 360 degree panning.
> (which could possibly be hooked up to the
> joystick/Theremin module). 
> could also be used as a really strange cv mixer. it
> would be good to
> have a summed (folded down) stereo out puts as well
> as discrete
> outputs for each channel.
> 
> 3)
> smokeless ashtray module. 
> 
> this way you could play a gig somewhere where you
> are not allowed to
> smoke (everywhere?) and if the synth was placed
> correctly/large enough
> you could have a smoke while you played without
> anyone knowing...
> 
> --david
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > ok list,
> > it is brainstorm time again!
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> A100
> > module, just say it!
> > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> weeks
> > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > i am waiting...
> > best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > http://www.rubber.gr
> > Athens-Greece
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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How about an analogue-digital/digital analogue converter module which 
in between the two stages makes each bit (i.e. 1s, 2s, 4s, 8s etc) 
available for patching on the front panel. This could open up 
possibilities for bit swapping (as seen on the frostwave sonic 
alienator) use with the A-166 dual logic module and loads of circuit 
bending type madness...? should probably include a limiter in it as 
well...

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> ok list,
> it is brainstorm time again!
> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!
> i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> i am waiting...
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber.gr
> Athens-Greece
> 
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> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!

vc compressor module (anyone got a patch for this with the current modules?)

more vc (must be as vc as possible) digital modules (did anything ever
become of the bit depth reducer?)

julian

hello florian,
nice idea! before i make a new poll, please, could you
explain a bit more what the possible applications of
such a module would be?
regards,
Bakis.






--- florian anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> Hello Bakis,
> 
> I already mentioned this some months ago:
> 
> I'd like to have something, what I call a general
> addon module:
> This should enhance the input/output-features of
> mostly audio related 
> modules.
> * For the output I'd like to have simple multiples
> (three or four sockets).
> * For the input section there MUST be a crossfader
> (real logarithmic 
> stereo potentiometer - no voltage control). This
> feature is definitely 
> necessary for live performance.
> * Also two or three additional inputs with gain
> should be provided. The 
> inputs should be selectable for AC/DC coupling.
> * There should be the possibility to hardwire the
> inputs and the output 
> multiples to the corresponding 'main'-module.
> 
> 
> Regards, Florian
> 
> 


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hello julian,
i think that the bit cruncher module is one of the
future a100 modules.
anything more specific regarding your VC digital
modules ideas?
regards,
Bakis





--- Julian <julian@port23.net> wrote:

> 
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> A100
> > module, just say it!
> 
> vc compressor module (anyone got a patch for this
> with the current modules?)
> 
> more vc (must be as vc as possible) digital modules
> (did anything ever
> become of the bit depth reducer?)
> 
> julian
> 
> 


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> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!

I would like to see an expanded version of A-185 (Bus Access). It
should be able to output cv/gate to more busboards than one, and also
have a switch to which of the connected boards that will be used.
(Either one or all) I have a large custom case with a total of 4
busboards, with 2 powersources feeding 2 each. -At least 2 outputs are
needed. (I don't want to buy a lot of A-185's) 

I have 3 cases in total, 2 of them are homemade. (3rd is original
Doepfer 6HE 19") I guess I don't need one in all of them, but it would
come in handy one day if I wanted to combine all VCO's and ADSR's (Got
5 VCO and 4 ADSR)

It could also have a larger multiple with active connections to prevent
signal loss, either independent of the cv/gate or in combination.
(Simply put: to distribute a signal, either audio or cv to multiple
targets) Sorry if you get confused.. :)

/Michael

hello,
that sounds very interesting!
let me see if i understand what you are thinking:
a new module with an analogue to digital converter,
with analogue cv/audio inputs that accept the input
analogue signals. then the module converts these to
digital logic signals(gates from 0 to 5 volts). if we
say that in this new module will be an 8-bit
converter. (does that means that the A to D converter
changes the analogue input to various combinations of
8 bit's-meaning combinations of 0 and 1's / on and off
gates?) then we could have each of the 8 bits as
digital outputs(0-5volts gate outputs) in the module's
front panel and the user could send these 8 digital
outputs to various processing modules like the a166 or
the a162 gate delay or even the a137, or...... then
the processed 8 bits could then be patched again via
digital front panel minijack inputs to this new module
and be converted by its onboard D to A conveter to
analogue signals(cv's and audio)?
could this be done? dieter/florian?
it sounds like a great idea!
so, this could be an analogue/digital hubrid module
that would offer the "digitized" sound for processing
with the a100 modules(via digital minijack outputs on
the front panel). then it would take the processed
digitized bits(via its front panel digital minijack
inputs) and reconvert them to analogue signals(audio
and cv). right?
i am waiting for your opinion, dieter and florian, in
order for me to create a new poll about that module
too(if it could be created...).
regards,
Bakis.






--- bty205236 <andrew.maunder@btinternet.com> wrote:

> How about an analogue-digital/digital analogue
> converter module which 
> in between the two stages makes each bit (i.e. 1s,
> 2s, 4s, 8s etc) 
> available for patching on the front panel. This
> could open up 
> possibilities for bit swapping (as seen on the
> frostwave sonic 
> alienator) use with the A-166 dual logic module and
> loads of circuit 
> bending type madness...? should probably include a
> limiter in it as 
> well...
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > ok list,
> > it is brainstorm time again!
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> A100
> > module, just say it!
> > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> weeks
> > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > i am waiting...
> > best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > http://www.rubber.gr
> > Athens-Greece
> > 
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> protection around 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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re processing of digital signals with existing modules...

Id imagine the resolution to be an issue?  What is the maximum speed (kHz
rating) of the modules in question?  Normally we deal with, what, about 20
somthing k max...

Or have i got it totally wrong?

Julian

My vote goes for resonant equalizer. I have one Gemini DJ mixer at home 
(ugly green thing), and it does wonders on middle frequency enhancement - I 
assume resonant equalizer would sound even better (never heard one though).

Regards,

Zoran

>From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>To: Doepfer_a100 group <doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100 modules?
>Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 02:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
>
>ok list,
>it is brainstorm time again!
>if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
>module, just say it!
>i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
>and out of them i'll create some new polls.
>i am waiting...
>best regards,
>Bakis.
>
>
>
>
>Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
>[Doepfer_a100] group owner
>http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
>http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
>http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
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>Athens-Greece
>
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hello florian,
yes, please, make a sketch and potential frontplate.
regards,
Bakis.




--- florian anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> Hi bakis
> 
> 
> > nice idea! before i make a new poll, please, could
> you
> > explain a bit more what the possible applications
> of
> > such a module would be?
> basically the idea for this module comes from
> building modular patches 
> from the scratch while a live performance. You will
> want to add more and 
> more modules to the audio signal path.
> If you have a system with a lot of audiomixers and
> muliples (e.g. the 
> Roland 100m), this is no problem.
> With the A100 this requires everytime to break up
> the signal path, which 
> is close to "stop your musical performance". Similar
> is valid for adding 
> additional control voltages to a module, which
> provides only one 
> adjustable CV input.
> 
> The idea of my module is to extend modules like all
> the VCFs or similar 
> (VC-Phasers, BBDs, Waveshapers...) with additional
> audio inputs, 
> additional CV-inputs and additional outputs.
> 
> Additionally to this simple extension, came the
> thought, that it is not 
> so easy to crossfade from one source to another with
> two normal mixer 
> inputs - a real crossfader is much better.
> 
> If you hardwire the summing points of the mixers to
> the corresponding 
> main module you even do not need any active elements
> or powersupply.
> 
> I will try to make a sketch drawing of a (block)
> diagram and a potential 
> frontplate draft.
> 
> 
> Florian
> 


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http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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hello zoran,
more details, please, in order to understand it and
make a poll for this module?
regards,
Bakis.





--- Zoran Bosnjak <dj_allin@hotmail.com> wrote:

> My vote goes for resonant equalizer. I have one
> Gemini DJ mixer at home 
> (ugly green thing), and it does wonders on middle
> frequency enhancement - I 
> assume resonant equalizer would sound even better
> (never heard one though).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Zoran
> 
> >From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >To: Doepfer_a100 group
> <doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic
> future A100 modules?
> >Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 02:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >ok list,
> >it is brainstorm time again!
> >if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> A100
> >module, just say it!
> >i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> weeks
> >and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> >i am waiting...
> >best regards,
> >Bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> >[Doepfer_a100] group owner
> >http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> >http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> >http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> >http://www.rubber.gr
> >Athens-Greece
> >
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VC police scanner would be funny... but...

what about a radio noise source? For this the signal reception 
doesn't need to be good.. so no external antenna, but maybe a socket 
for one if wanted. Manual & VC controlled radio frequency select. 
AM/FM bands. 

It could be like the A-118 with a random CV derived from the radio 
noise signal. Yes, what I'm talking about is utilizing the "static" 
that you get when a radio is dialed in between stations as the noise.

Of course radio stations would be available too if you wanted to add 
an antenna to strengthen the signal.

It could be called "Radioactivity" after the Kraftwerk album (an 
album that I like a whole lot).

I'm serious.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "david rothbaum" <david@...> 
wrote:
>
> 1)
> voltage controlled police scanner.
> 
> a gate signal would trigger the search or scan function. 
attenuated cv
> for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot for frequency 
ranges
> which could also be cv controlled like the 107 morphing filter or 
the

> mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could step through the
> ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate signal could be
> used to scan that bank/range. also if you had storable presets you
> could step through specific frequencies controlled by gate signals.
> for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say a bank of 100
> preset frequencies...
>

Hi Bakis,

the resonant equalizer is one of the best Serge modules, at least according 
to AH archives. I assume it is equivalent of a very good quality mixer eq. 
You can read about the Serge one here:

http://www.serge-fans.com/wiz_filt.htm

IMPORTANT: I am NOT suggesting to clone Serge design here. I am not talking 
about sounds-sculpting tool, as Serge one looks to be. I imagine much 
simpler thing, with controls for hi, mid and low frequencies only. I simply 
need good equalizer for my synth sequences, cause I create all these 
beautful breathing sequences on MS-20, that could enormously benefit from 
enhancing mid-range frequencies. One could say: how come you can't do that 
on MS-20? Well, for some reason (and this happened more than once), the 
richest sub-harmonic setting (smooth and velvety - sorry, I am not bragging, 
that's simply what MS-20 version 2 is capable of) needs to have mid-range 
frequencies cranked up. You go for the mids on MS-20, and you lose beauty 
(the sound becomes somewhat harsh). Put my ugly Gemini DJ mixer into 
equasion, by increasing mids, and the results are extremely pleasant.

Of course I can keep on using that Gemini mixer. Cause it is optimized for 
dance music, I guess they set the eq's on it perfectly for my needs (funky 
techno). But it would be cool to have good mixer strip on modular itself. I 
have been hunting for decent old analog desk, but haven't had luck so far. 
And the size factor is the problem. I guess I would rather have one module 
instead of giant desk, that takes 1/3 of the valuable studio surface.

And that resonant attribute is certainly intriguing...

Regards,

Zoran

>From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100 modules?
>Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 10:44:39 -0700 (PDT)
>
>hello zoran,
>more details, please, in order to understand it and
>make a poll for this module?
>regards,
>Bakis.
>
>
>
>
>
>--- Zoran Bosnjak <dj_allin@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > My vote goes for resonant equalizer. I have one
> > Gemini DJ mixer at home
> > (ugly green thing), and it does wonders on middle
> > frequency enhancement - I
> > assume resonant equalizer would sound even better
> > (never heard one though).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Zoran
> >
> > >From: Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: Doepfer_a100 group
> > <doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic
> > future A100 modules?
> > >Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 02:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >ok list,
> > >it is brainstorm time again!
> > >if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> > A100
> > >module, just say it!
> > >i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> > weeks
> > >and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > >i am waiting...
> > >best regards,
> > >Bakis.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > >[Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > >http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > >http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > >http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > >http://www.rubber.gr
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Hi Bakis,

No actually, the police scanner was not a joke at all. I use a
(non-cv) version all the time with the synth. as both a source of
audio and a noise/cv source. lots of weird bleeps and blips etc. ham
radio, trnasmissions of the space shuttle and aircraft etc.

though i was serious i can't imagine a huge demand for such a module
and it would be absurdly expensive i think.

but yes was serious...

--david

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello david,
> nice one with the smokeless ashtray module...(how many
> cigarettes should it hold, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10?)    :-)
> i assume that your "VC police scanner module" is a
> joke too, right?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- david rothbaum <david@...> wrote:
> 
> > 1)
> > voltage controlled police scanner.
> > 
> > a gate signal would trigger the search or scan
> > function. attenuated cv
> > for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot for
> > frequency ranges
> > which could also be cv controlled like the 107
> > morphing filter or the
> > mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could
> > step through the
> > ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate
> > signal could be
> > used to scan that bank/range. also if you had
> > storable presets you
> > could step through specific frequencies controlled
> > by gate signals.
> > for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say a
> > bank of 100
> > preset frequencies...
> > 
> > 2)
> > 5.1 surround voltage controlled mixer. (posted this
> > idea to the plan b
> > list a while back)
> > 
> > separate vcas for all 5 outputs. and cv controlled
> > 360 degree panning.
> > (which could possibly be hooked up to the
> > joystick/Theremin module). 
> > could also be used as a really strange cv mixer. it
> > would be good to
> > have a summed (folded down) stereo out puts as well
> > as discrete
> > outputs for each channel.
> > 
> > 3)
> > smokeless ashtray module. 
> > 
> > this way you could play a gig somewhere where you
> > are not allowed to
> > smoke (everywhere?) and if the synth was placed
> > correctly/large enough
> > you could have a smoke while you played without
> > anyone knowing...
> > 
> > --david
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ok list,
> > > it is brainstorm time again!
> > > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> > A100
> > > module, just say it!
> > > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> > weeks
> > > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > > i am waiting...
> > > best regards,
> > > Bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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do you just mean a parametric EQ?
maybe like the cwejman VCEQ-3?
http://www.analoguehaven.com/cwejman/vceq3/


best,
phil

hello bakis,

with an a127 you can only add the filter outputs to the original,
but you cannot subtract them. also the a127 doesn't offer
voltage-control of filter width and filter output level.

best wishes

ingo




--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello,
> this seems to me like a three band bandpass filter,
> like the a127 VCRF?
> what's the point for such a module?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> --- "ph@..." <ph@...> wrote:
> 
> > do you just mean a parametric EQ?
> > maybe like the cwejman VCEQ-3?
> > http://www.analoguehaven.com/cwejman/vceq3/
> > 
> > 
> > best,
> > phil
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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*If my memory serves me* Dieter mentioned 2 reasons: Such a module 
would need an extensive shielding or will easily introduce unwanted 
noise into the signal path. Intense regulations for radio 
manufacturing would apply for a radio-synth-module make. Regards, 
Ingo

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello,
> i remember a while ago that dieter had explain why
> such a radio module would not be reasonable to make.
> dieter?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- untiedstates <untiedstates@...> wrote:
> 
> > VC police scanner would be funny... but...
> > 
> > what about a radio noise source? For this the signal
> > reception 
> > doesn't need to be good.. so no external antenna,
> > but maybe a socket 
> > for one if wanted. Manual & VC controlled radio
> > frequency select. 
> > AM/FM bands. 
> > 
> > It could be like the A-118 with a random CV derived
> > from the radio 
> > noise signal. Yes, what I'm talking about is
> > utilizing the "static" 
> > that you get when a radio is dialed in between
> > stations as the noise.
> > 
> > Of course radio stations would be available too if
> > you wanted to add 
> > an antenna to strengthen the signal.
> > 
> > It could be called "Radioactivity" after the
> > Kraftwerk album (an 
> > album that I like a whole lot).
> > 
> > I'm serious.
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "david
> > rothbaum" <david@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 1)
> > > voltage controlled police scanner.
> > > 
> > > a gate signal would trigger the search or scan
> > function. 
> > attenuated cv
> > > for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot
> > for frequency 
> > ranges
> > > which could also be cv controlled like the 107
> > morphing filter or 
> > the
> > > mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could
> > step through the
> > > ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate
> > signal could be
> > > used to scan that bank/range. also if you had
> > storable presets you
> > > could step through specific frequencies controlled
> > by gate signals.
> > > for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say
> > a bank of 100
> > > preset frequencies...
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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hello,
i remember a while ago that dieter had explain why
such a radio module would not be reasonable to make.
dieter?
regards,
Bakis.




--- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:

> VC police scanner would be funny... but...
> 
> what about a radio noise source? For this the signal
> reception 
> doesn't need to be good.. so no external antenna,
> but maybe a socket 
> for one if wanted. Manual & VC controlled radio
> frequency select. 
> AM/FM bands. 
> 
> It could be like the A-118 with a random CV derived
> from the radio 
> noise signal. Yes, what I'm talking about is
> utilizing the "static" 
> that you get when a radio is dialed in between
> stations as the noise.
> 
> Of course radio stations would be available too if
> you wanted to add 
> an antenna to strengthen the signal.
> 
> It could be called "Radioactivity" after the
> Kraftwerk album (an 
> album that I like a whole lot).
> 
> I'm serious.
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "david
> rothbaum" <david@...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 1)
> > voltage controlled police scanner.
> > 
> > a gate signal would trigger the search or scan
> function. 
> attenuated cv
> > for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot
> for frequency 
> ranges
> > which could also be cv controlled like the 107
> morphing filter or 
> the
> > mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could
> step through the
> > ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate
> signal could be
> > used to scan that bank/range. also if you had
> storable presets you
> > could step through specific frequencies controlled
> by gate signals.
> > for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say
> a bank of 100
> > preset frequencies...
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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hello,
this seems to me like a three band bandpass filter,
like the a127 VCRF?
what's the point for such a module?
regards,
Bakis.



--- "ph@comcast.net" <ph@comcast.net> wrote:

> do you just mean a parametric EQ?
> maybe like the cwejman VCEQ-3?
> http://www.analoguehaven.com/cwejman/vceq3/
> 
> 
> best,
> phil
> 
> 
> 


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hello david,
ok, i'll make a poll about that VC police scanner
module too and see what happens.
bakis



--- david rothbaum <david@davidrothbaum.com> wrote:

> Hi Bakis,
> 
> No actually, the police scanner was not a joke at
> all. I use a
> (non-cv) version all the time with the synth. as
> both a source of
> audio and a noise/cv source. lots of weird bleeps
> and blips etc. ham
> radio, trnasmissions of the space shuttle and
> aircraft etc.
> 
> though i was serious i can't imagine a huge demand
> for such a module
> and it would be absurdly expensive i think.
> 
> but yes was serious...
> 
> --david
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > hello david,
> > nice one with the smokeless ashtray module...(how
> many
> > cigarettes should it hold, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10?)    :-)
> > i assume that your "VC police scanner module" is a
> > joke too, right?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- david rothbaum <david@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > 1)
> > > voltage controlled police scanner.
> > > 
> > > a gate signal would trigger the search or scan
> > > function. attenuated cv
> > > for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot
> for
> > > frequency ranges
> > > which could also be cv controlled like the 107
> > > morphing filter or the
> > > mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you
> could
> > > step through the
> > > ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another
> gate
> > > signal could be
> > > used to scan that bank/range. also if you had
> > > storable presets you
> > > could step through specific frequencies
> controlled
> > > by gate signals.
> > > for instance 149-2 could randomly step through
> say a
> > > bank of 100
> > > preset frequencies...
> > > 
> > > 2)
> > > 5.1 surround voltage controlled mixer. (posted
> this
> > > idea to the plan b
> > > list a while back)
> > > 
> > > separate vcas for all 5 outputs. and cv
> controlled
> > > 360 degree panning.
> > > (which could possibly be hooked up to the
> > > joystick/Theremin module). 
> > > could also be used as a really strange cv mixer.
> it
> > > would be good to
> > > have a summed (folded down) stereo out puts as
> well
> > > as discrete
> > > outputs for each channel.
> > > 
> > > 3)
> > > smokeless ashtray module. 
> > > 
> > > this way you could play a gig somewhere where
> you
> > > are not allowed to
> > > smoke (everywhere?) and if the synth was placed
> > > correctly/large enough
> > > you could have a smoke while you played without
> > > anyone knowing...
> > > 
> > > --david
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis
> Sirros
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok list,
> > > > it is brainstorm time again!
> > > > if you have any crazy idea about a future
> exotic
> > > A100
> > > > module, just say it!
> > > > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> > > weeks
> > > > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > > > i am waiting...
> > > > best regards,
> > > > Bakis.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > > > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > > > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > > > http://www.rubber.gr
> > > > Athens-Greece
> > > > 
> > > >
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> > > 
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> > 
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to be honest, i'd like to see the already
announced modules (digital delay, tkb, sequencer,
pitch-to-voltage, sou3, bit cruncher etc...) finished
before we come up with more module ideas.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> ok list,
> it is brainstorm time again!
> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!
> i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> i am waiting...
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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yup, you've got the idea of the thing (i apologise for my fairly 
limited vocabulary when describing the idea... years of tv seem to 
have taken their toll)! i've got to say, i think it would sound 
absolutely crazy, (which is a good thing of course)... please please 
please can you build me one?

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello,
> that sounds very interesting!
> let me see if i understand what you are thinking:
> a new module with an analogue to digital converter,
> with analogue cv/audio inputs that accept the input
> analogue signals. then the module converts these to
> digital logic signals(gates from 0 to 5 volts). if we
> say that in this new module will be an 8-bit
> converter. (does that means that the A to D converter
> changes the analogue input to various combinations of
> 8 bit's-meaning combinations of 0 and 1's / on and off
> gates?) then we could have each of the 8 bits as
> digital outputs(0-5volts gate outputs) in the module's
> front panel and the user could send these 8 digital
> outputs to various processing modules like the a166 or
> the a162 gate delay or even the a137, or...... then
> the processed 8 bits could then be patched again via
> digital front panel minijack inputs to this new module
> and be converted by its onboard D to A conveter to
> analogue signals(cv's and audio)?
> could this be done? dieter/florian?
> it sounds like a great idea!
> so, this could be an analogue/digital hubrid module
> that would offer the "digitized" sound for processing
> with the a100 modules(via digital minijack outputs on
> the front panel). then it would take the processed
> digitized bits(via its front panel digital minijack
> inputs) and reconvert them to analogue signals(audio
> and cv). right?
> i am waiting for your opinion, dieter and florian, in
> order for me to create a new poll about that module
> too(if it could be created...).
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- bty205236 <andrew.maunder@...> wrote:
> 
> > How about an analogue-digital/digital analogue
> > converter module which 
> > in between the two stages makes each bit (i.e. 1s,
> > 2s, 4s, 8s etc) 
> > available for patching on the front panel. This
> > could open up 
> > possibilities for bit swapping (as seen on the
> > frostwave sonic 
> > alienator) use with the A-166 dual logic module and
> > loads of circuit 
> > bending type madness...? should probably include a
> > limiter in it as 
> > well...
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > >
> > > ok list,
> > > it is brainstorm time again!
> > > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> > A100
> > > module, just say it!
> > > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> > weeks
> > > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > > i am waiting...
> > > best regards,
> > > Bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
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> > > Athens-Greece
> > > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
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A voltage controlled bit modifier is in the development state (e.g. VC bit
cruncher/bit depth reducer, VC bit exchanger, VC digital wave multiplier ?,
VC digital waveshaper ...). Last week we received the smd adapter board that
contains all smd parts that will be used in the coming universal AD/DA
boards. Probably two types of modules will be designed at first: one without
memory (for "immediate" real-time calculations like bit cruncher, bit
exchanger, wave multiplier, wave shaper, ...) and another with a large
memory for applications like clocked audio delay, clocked CV delay, sampler,
digital sequencer ...
As we are at the beginning we are not yet sure which of the mentioned
functions will make sense (or will actually be possible with the hardware
used). I will keep you informed as soon as I have news.

This is the basic idea:

analog input #1 (mainly audio input, but even a slowly changing CV may be
applied) with attenuator
analog input #2 (CV control input, e.g. for bit cruncher depth, wave
shaping/wave multiplying depth) with manual offset and CV input with
attenuator
clock input (used only for clocked functions)
output (mainly audio output, but even a slowly changing CV appear)
controls (some buttons to select the desired function, maybe a LCD or LED
display)


Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Julian
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Mai 2006 14:18
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?
>
>
>
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> > module, just say it!
>
> vc compressor module (anyone got a patch for this with the
> current modules?)
>
> more vc (must be as vc as possible) digital modules (did anything ever
> become of the bit depth reducer?)
>
> julian
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

We had a radio module at the NAMM (for vocoder demo). It was nothing but a
0.99$ FM radio sticked on a A-100 blind panel and a special cable (3.5mm
stereo -> 2 x 3.5mm mono). Unfortunately it did not work in the basement at
the NAMM (this is why we removed the "module" again). Maybe we will have to
book a booth at first floor next year to demonstrate the "radio module" :-)

It is possible to modify the A-118 to use an external signal for the random
section (instead of the noise source). In combination with the new universal
vactrol module A-101-9 the random rate of the A-118 can even be voltage
controlled.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2006 09:55
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?
>
>
> hello,
> i remember a while ago that dieter had explain why
> such a radio module would not be reasonable to make.
> dieter?
> regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
>
>
> --- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > VC police scanner would be funny... but...
> >
> > what about a radio noise source? For this the signal
> > reception
> > doesn't need to be good.. so no external antenna,
> > but maybe a socket
> > for one if wanted. Manual & VC controlled radio
> > frequency select.
> > AM/FM bands.
> >
> > It could be like the A-118 with a random CV derived
> > from the radio
> > noise signal. Yes, what I'm talking about is
> > utilizing the "static"
> > that you get when a radio is dialed in between
> > stations as the noise.
> >
> > Of course radio stations would be available too if
> > you wanted to add
> > an antenna to strengthen the signal.
> >
> > It could be called "Radioactivity" after the
> > Kraftwerk album (an
> > album that I like a whole lot).
> >
> > I'm serious.
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "david
> > rothbaum" <david@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 1)
> > > voltage controlled police scanner.
> > >
> > > a gate signal would trigger the search or scan
> > function.
> > attenuated cv
> > > for squelch, volume and tuning. and stepped pot
> > for frequency
> > ranges
> > > which could also be cv controlled like the 107
> > morphing filter or
> > the
> > > mode cv on the sequencer controller. so you could
> > step through the
> > > ranges triggered by a sequencer, then another gate
> > signal could be
> > > used to scan that bank/range. also if you had
> > storable presets you
> > > could step through specific frequencies controlled
> > by gate signals.
> > > for instance 149-2 could randomly step through say
> > a bank of 100
> > > preset frequencies...
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Uuppps, somehow I erased all mailtext :-(

I made a draft for the frontplate and the schemo. You will find it in 
the filesection as "Entwurf-Crossfader.jpg". The schemo does not contain 
buffer amps, which are not required if the module is hardwaired with 
another "main" module (like any vcf, phaser, bbd,...)

Florian

hello zoran,

these cwejman modules are brand-new, i don't think that these
are already shipping, but they should in a few weeks.
have you seen the price of the module? ok, the module
quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is quite expensive.

best wishes

ingo



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Zoran Bosnjak" <dj_allin@...> 
wrote:
>
> I have never seen this Cwejman module before, but that's it. In my 
> description, I left out parametric and VC features, to make the 
explanation 

> simple, and the cost low. But that's exactly what I had on my mind. 
> Fascinating - you think of something, and somebody made it already.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Zoran
> 
> 
> >From: "ph@..." <ph@...>
> >Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> >To: "Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: FW: [Doepfer_a100] Resonant EQ - reply for Bakis
> >Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:27:41 -0700
> >
> >do you just mean a parametric EQ?
> >maybe like the cwejman VCEQ-3?
> >http://www.analoguehaven.com/cwejman/vceq3/
> >
> >
> >best,
> >phil
> >
> >
>

hello ingo,
yes, me too, but these will be only future modules
ideas... preliminary ideas for possible future
modules.
best regards,
Bakis.





--- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> to be honest, i'd like to see the already
> announced modules (digital delay, tkb, sequencer,
> pitch-to-voltage, sou3, bit cruncher etc...)
> finished
> before we come up with more module ideas.
> 
> best wishes
> 
> ingo
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > ok list,
> > it is brainstorm time again!
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> A100
> > module, just say it!
> > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> weeks
> > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > i am waiting...
> > best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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> > http://www.rubber.gr
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--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hi ingo
> 
> > quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is quite expensive.
> and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does not continuously add 
or 
> subtract the corresponding band asyou would expect it from a mixing 
> console's EQ. You have to switch between add or subtract. So it is 
> assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus inverters for the original 
mix 
> (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> 
> It should be a very simple addon package (one TL064, eight resistors, 
> three switches) which would modify the A127.
> 
> Florian
>


well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's for
voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.

best wishes

ingo

Hi

> No actually, the police scanner was not a joke at all. I use a
> (non-cv) version all the time with the synth. as both a source of
> audio and a noise/cv source. lots of weird bleeps and blips etc. ham
> radio, trnasmissions of the space shuttle and aircraft etc.
Sorry, may be I am a stupid one, but: What the heck is a "police scanner"?

I know the police as a public institution for inner the monopole of lordship

I know a scanner as a gear, which converts pictures to image files, or 
in a wider meaning as anything that searches for kind of signals.

What does the "police scanner" scan? Is it used by the police to scan 
for some things (whatever thy may be), or do you scan the sourrounding 
for police men? Sorry, but I just live in country where you do not fear 
the police; so this would sound a littlebit ridiculous to me.

Florian

I have never seen this Cwejman module before, but that's it. In my 
description, I left out parametric and VC features, to make the explanation 
simple, and the cost low. But that's exactly what I had on my mind. 
Fascinating - you think of something, and somebody made it already.

Regards,

Zoran

>From: "ph@comcast.net" <ph@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>To: "Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: FW: [Doepfer_a100] Resonant EQ - reply for Bakis
>Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:27:41 -0700
>
>do you just mean a parametric EQ?
>maybe like the cwejman VCEQ-3?
>http://www.analoguehaven.com/cwejman/vceq3/
>
>
>best,
>phil
>
>

I agree !

and don't put a memory-card in such a module.

On May 8, 2006, at 12:02, selfoscillate wrote:

>
>  to be honest, i'd like to see the already
>  announced modules (digital delay, tkb, sequencer,
>  pitch-to-voltage, sou3, bit cruncher etc...) finished
>  before we come up with more module ideas.
>
>  best wishes
>
>  ingo
>

Yes, it is too pricey for me. I think I will mount my Gemini mixer above my 
Doepfer racks, and call it my "Gemini dual equalizer with built-in power 
supply" :-)

Regards,

Zoran

>From: "selfoscillate" <synaptic_music@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: FW: [Doepfer_a100] Resonant EQ - reply for Bakis
>Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 12:21:24 -0000
>
>
>hello zoran,
>
>these cwejman modules are brand-new, i don't think that these
>are already shipping, but they should in a few weeks.
>have you seen the price of the module? ok, the module
>quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is quite expensive.
>
>best wishes
>
>ingo
>
>
>
>--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Zoran Bosnjak" <dj_allin@...>
>wrote:
> >
> > I have never seen this Cwejman module before, but that's it. In my
> > description, I left out parametric and VC features, to make the
>explanation
> > simple, and the cost low. But that's exactly what I had on my mind.
> > Fascinating - you think of something, and somebody made it already.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Zoran
> >
> >
> > >From: "ph@..." <ph@...>
> > >Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: "Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com" <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: FW: [Doepfer_a100] Resonant EQ - reply for Bakis
> > >Date: Sun, 07 May 2006 20:27:41 -0700
> > >
> > >do you just mean a parametric EQ?
> > >maybe like the cwejman VCEQ-3?
> > >http://www.analoguehaven.com/cwejman/vceq3/
> > >
> > >
> > >best,
> > >phil
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>

Hi ingo

> quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is quite expensive.
and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does not continuously add or 
subtract the corresponding band asyou would expect it from a mixing 
console's EQ. You have to switch between add or subtract. So it is 
assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus inverters for the original mix 
(incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).

It should be a very simple addon package (one TL064, eight resistors, 
three switches) which would modify the A127.

Florian

Hi Ingo


> well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's for
> voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
You are right (but nevertheless it wouldnt' be that expensive, that it 
reaches $550).

Florian

> > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is quite expensive.
> > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does not continuously add 
> or 
> > subtract the corresponding band asyou would expect it from a mixing 
> > console's EQ. You have to switch between add or subtract. So it is 
> > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus inverters for the original 
> mix 
> > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > 
> > It should be a very simple addon package (one TL064, eight resistors, 
> > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > 
> > Florian
> >
> 
> 
> well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's for
> voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
> 

Hello Florian, Ingo,

Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion module to me! 

I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not yet finished should not 
be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to think of new modules, 
so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)

1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does different ET's 
3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic, real time) scales 
from timbres from vco-type modules, like a custom made sinus 
bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator. 
4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources that would be 
specially built to work togethjer with the timbral quantizer, so you 
don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a scale from a timbre, but 
you can derive the spectral information you need from the settings 
of the sound source using some (digital) mathematics.
5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe even for the a-156) 
for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
   
I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as possible

Greetings

Anton

scale programmer

moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could be tuned 
individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever tuning system you 
wanted.

I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with CV wouldn't you 
have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping".

great! i was hoping this was the case...

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello,
> i think that this function (scale
> programming-tuning/cv pots for each keyboard key) will
> be implemented into the TKS, right dieter?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- untiedstates <untiedstates@...> wrote:
> 
> > scale programmer
> > 
> > moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> > be tuned 
> > individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> > tuning system you 
> > wanted.
> > 
> > I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> > CV wouldn't you 
> > have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
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hello anton,
i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding your
future module suggestions before i make polls about
them.
regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
should this module be modeled around?
regards,
Bakis.




--- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> > > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is
> quite expensive.
> > > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does
> not continuously add 
> > or 
> > > subtract the corresponding band asyou would
> expect it from a mixing 
> > > console's EQ. You have to switch between add or
> subtract. So it is 
> > > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
> inverters for the original 
> > mix 
> > > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > > 
> > > It should be a very simple addon package (one
> TL064, eight resistors, 
> > > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > > 
> > > Florian
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's
> for
> > voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
> > 
> 
> Hello Florian, Ingo,
> 
> Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
> module to me! 
> 
> I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not yet
> finished should not 
> be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
> think of new modules, 
> so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
> 
> 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
> 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does different
> ET's 
> 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic, real
> time) scales 
> from timbres from vco-type modules, like a custom
> made sinus 
> bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator. 
> 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources that
> would be 
> specially built to work togethjer with the timbral
> quantizer, so you 
> don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a scale
> from a timbre, but 
> you can derive the spectral information you need
> from the settings 
> of the sound source using some (digital)
> mathematics.
> 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe even
> for the a-156) 
> for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
>    
> I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
> possible
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Anton
> 


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no i cannot. but dieter maybe can do this!     ;-)
regards,
Bakis.



--- bty205236 <andrew.maunder@btinternet.com> wrote:

> yup, you've got the idea of the thing (i apologise
> for my fairly 
> limited vocabulary when describing the idea... years
> of tv seem to 
> have taken their toll)! i've got to say, i think it
> would sound 
> absolutely crazy, (which is a good thing of
> course)... please please 
> please can you build me one?
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
> >
> > hello,
> > that sounds very interesting!
> > let me see if i understand what you are thinking:
> > a new module with an analogue to digital
> converter,
> > with analogue cv/audio inputs that accept the
> input
> > analogue signals. then the module converts these
> to
> > digital logic signals(gates from 0 to 5 volts). if
> we
> > say that in this new module will be an 8-bit
> > converter. (does that means that the A to D
> converter
> > changes the analogue input to various combinations
> of
> > 8 bit's-meaning combinations of 0 and 1's / on and
> off
> > gates?) then we could have each of the 8 bits as
> > digital outputs(0-5volts gate outputs) in the
> module's
> > front panel and the user could send these 8
> digital
> > outputs to various processing modules like the
> a166 or
> > the a162 gate delay or even the a137, or......
> then
> > the processed 8 bits could then be patched again
> via
> > digital front panel minijack inputs to this new
> module
> > and be converted by its onboard D to A conveter to
> > analogue signals(cv's and audio)?
> > could this be done? dieter/florian?
> > it sounds like a great idea!
> > so, this could be an analogue/digital hubrid
> module
> > that would offer the "digitized" sound for
> processing
> > with the a100 modules(via digital minijack outputs
> on
> > the front panel). then it would take the processed
> > digitized bits(via its front panel digital
> minijack
> > inputs) and reconvert them to analogue
> signals(audio
> > and cv). right?
> > i am waiting for your opinion, dieter and florian,
> in
> > order for me to create a new poll about that
> module
> > too(if it could be created...).
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- bty205236 <andrew.maunder@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > How about an analogue-digital/digital analogue
> > > converter module which 
> > > in between the two stages makes each bit (i.e.
> 1s,
> > > 2s, 4s, 8s etc) 
> > > available for patching on the front panel. This
> > > could open up 
> > > possibilities for bit swapping (as seen on the
> > > frostwave sonic 
> > > alienator) use with the A-166 dual logic module
> and
> > > loads of circuit 
> > > bending type madness...? should probably include
> a
> > > limiter in it as 
> > > well...
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis
> Sirros 
> > > <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > ok list,
> > > > it is brainstorm time again!
> > > > if you have any crazy idea about a future
> exotic
> > > A100
> > > > module, just say it!
> > > > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> > > weeks
> > > > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > > > i am waiting...
> > > > best regards,
> > > > Bakis.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > > > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > > > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > > > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > > > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > > > http://www.rubber.gr
> > > > Athens-Greece
> > > > 
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--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:
>
> ok list,
> it is brainstorm time again!
> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!
> i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> i am waiting...
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
I vote for anything ARP:ish, especially 2600 and the Odyssey.
Filters, osc, all of it.  The best of the best...

Matteus

hello,
i think that this function (scale
programming-tuning/cv pots for each keyboard key) will
be implemented into the TKS, right dieter?
regards,
Bakis.




--- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:

> scale programmer
> 
> moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> be tuned 
> individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> tuning system you 
> wanted.
> 
> I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> CV wouldn't you 
> have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping". 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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The 4012 gets my vote.

On May 8, 2006, at 10:42 AM, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> hello anton,
> i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding your
> future module suggestions before i make polls about
> them.
> regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
> should this module be modeled around?
> regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
>
>
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>>>>> quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is
>> quite expensive.
>>>> and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does
>> not continuously add
>>> or
>>>> subtract the corresponding band asyou would
>> expect it from a mixing
>>>> console's EQ. You have to switch between add or
>> subtract. So it is
>>>> assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
>> inverters for the original
>>> mix
>>>> (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
>>>>
>>>> It should be a very simple addon package (one
>> TL064, eight resistors,
>>>> three switches) which would modify the A127.
>>>>
>>>> Florian
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's
>> for
>>> voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
>>>
>>
>> Hello Florian, Ingo,
>>
>> Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
>> module to me!
>>
>> I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not yet
>> finished should not
>> be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
>> think of new modules,
>> so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
>>
>> 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
>> 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does different
>> ET's
>> 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic, real
>> time) scales
>> from timbres from vco-type modules, like a custom
>> made sinus
>> bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator.
>> 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources that
>> would be
>> specially built to work togethjer with the timbral
>> quantizer, so you
>> don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a scale
>> from a timbre, but
>> you can derive the spectral information you need
>> from the settings
>> of the sound source using some (digital)
>> mathematics.
>> 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe even
>> for the a-156)
>> for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
>>
>> I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
>> possible
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Anton
>>
>
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Hi Bakis,

You're right, this is very important, I was referring to the 'classic' Arp 
filter that was used in the later Odysseys and the Axxe from 1975 or 
so, and probably it should be *without* the design flaw that 
originally cut off frequencies above 11 kHz. 

Greetings

Anton 

On 8 May 2006, at 10:42, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> hello anton,
> i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding your
> future module suggestions before i make polls about
> them.
> regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
> should this module be modeled around?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> > > > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is
> > quite expensive.
> > > > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does
> > not continuously add 
> > > or 
> > > > subtract the corresponding band asyou would
> > expect it from a mixing 
> > > > console's EQ. You have to switch between add or
> > subtract. So it is 
> > > > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
> > inverters for the original 
> > > mix 
> > > > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > > > 
> > > > It should be a very simple addon package (one
> > TL064, eight resistors, 
> > > > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > > > 
> > > > Florian
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's
> > for
> > > voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hello Florian, Ingo,
> > 
> > Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
> > module to me! 
> > 
> > I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not yet
> > finished should not 
> > be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
> > think of new modules, 
> > so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
> > 
> > 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
> > 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does different
> > ET's 
> > 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic, real
> > time) scales 
> > from timbres from vco-type modules, like a custom
> > made sinus 
> > bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator. 
> > 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources that
> > would be 
> > specially built to work togethjer with the timbral
> > quantizer, so you 
> > don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a scale
> > from a timbre, but 
> > you can derive the spectral information you need
> > from the settings 
> > of the sound source using some (digital)
> > mathematics.
> > 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe even
> > for the a-156) 
> > for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
> >    
> > I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
> > possible
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > Anton
> > 
> 
> 
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> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
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No, as the "new" TKB has been reduced to the basic functions and the
"gimmicks" of the first prototype have been removed because of the many
different ideas. These additional features will be (hopefully) included in
the "keyboard" controller that is outlined on our web site (very
preliminary).

But this could be also a job for the AD/DA module as it is able to process
incoming analog voltages in real time. This example would require a look-up
table with the table containing the values for the output voltages in
relation to the input voltages (kind of "CV waveshaper" as it's nothing but
a waveshaper but not audio range but for slowly moving or fixed voltages).
The AD/DA module will be able to do a lot of jobs. The main problem will be
to find suitable controls (manual controls, attenuators, inputs, displays,
outputs) for all these applications.

But I'm sure you all will help us ...

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2006 20:09
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?
>
>
> hello,
> i think that this function (scale
> programming-tuning/cv pots for each keyboard key) will
> be implemented into the TKS, right dieter?
> regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
>
>
> --- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > scale programmer
> >
> > moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> > be tuned
> > individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> > tuning system you
> > wanted.
> >
> > I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> > CV wouldn't you
> > have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
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I wouldn't mind a filter like the 4012.. I got an ARP2600 with that
filter, and that's awesome! I have no other filter that's near that
one.. (And I have a few options to choose from)

/Michael

--- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> skrev:


---------------------------------
Hi Bakis,

You're right, this is very important, I was referring to the 'classic'
Arp 
filter that was used in the later Odysseys and the Axxe from 1975 or 
so, and probably it should be *without* the design flaw that 
originally cut off frequencies above 11 kHz. 

Greetings

Anton 

On 8 May 2006, at 10:42, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> hello anton,
> i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding your
> future module suggestions before i make polls about
> them.
> regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
> should this module be modeled around?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> 
> > > > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is
> > quite expensive.
> > > > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does
> > not continuously add 
> > > or 
> > > > subtract the corresponding band asyou would
> > expect it from a mixing 
> > > > console's EQ. You have to switch between add or
> > subtract. So it is 
> > > > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
> > inverters for the original 
> > > mix 
> > > > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > > > 
> > > > It should be a very simple addon package (one
> > TL064, eight resistors, 
> > > > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > > > 
> > > > Florian
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's
> > for
> > > voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hello Florian, Ingo,
> > 
> > Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
> > module to me! 
> > 
> > I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not yet
> > finished should not 
> > be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
> > think of new modules, 
> > so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
> > 
> > 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
> > 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does different
> > ET's 
> > 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic, real
> > time) scales 
> > from timbres from vco-type modules, like a custom
> > made sinus 
> > bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator. 
> > 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources that
> > would be 
> > specially built to work togethjer with the timbral
> > quantizer, so you 
> > don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a scale
> > from a timbre, but 
> > you can derive the spectral information you need
> > from the settings 
> > of the sound source using some (digital)
> > mathematics.
> > 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe even
> > for the a-156) 
> > for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
> >    
> > I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
> > possible
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > Anton
> > 
> 
> 
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> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
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hello michael, anton,
so, the "classic" ARP filter is the 4012?
regards,
Bakis.


--- "Michael O." <megathlon2000@yahoo.se> wrote:

> I wouldn't mind a filter like the 4012.. I got an
> ARP2600 with that
> filter, and that's awesome! I have no other filter
> that's near that
> one.. (And I have a few options to choose from)
> 
> /Michael
> 
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> skrev:
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Hi Bakis,
> 
> You're right, this is very important, I was
> referring to the 'classic'
> Arp 
> filter that was used in the later Odysseys and the
> Axxe from 1975 or 
> so, and probably it should be *without* the design
> flaw that 
> originally cut off frequencies above 11 kHz. 
> 
> Greetings
> 
> Anton 
> 
> On 8 May 2006, at 10:42, Bakis Sirros wrote:
> 
> > hello anton,
> > i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding
> your
> > future module suggestions before i make polls
> about
> > them.
> > regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
> > should this module be modeled around?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $
> is
> > > quite expensive.
> > > > > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ
> does
> > > not continuously add 
> > > > or 
> > > > > subtract the corresponding band asyou would
> > > expect it from a mixing 
> > > > > console's EQ. You have to switch between add
> or
> > > subtract. So it is 
> > > > > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
> > > inverters for the original 
> > > > mix 
> > > > > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > > > > 
> > > > > It should be a very simple addon package
> (one
> > > TL064, eight resistors, 
> > > > > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Florian
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > well, yes, and i guess you also need some
> vca's
> > > for
> > > > voltage-control of bandwidth and level per
> filter.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello Florian, Ingo,
> > > 
> > > Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
> > > module to me! 
> > > 
> > > I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not
> yet
> > > finished should not 
> > > be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
> > > think of new modules, 
> > > so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
> > > 
> > > 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
> > > 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does
> different
> > > ET's 
> > > 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic,
> real
> > > time) scales 
> > > from timbres from vco-type modules, like a
> custom
> > > made sinus 
> > > bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator. 
> > > 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources
> that
> > > would be 
> > > specially built to work togethjer with the
> timbral
> > > quantizer, so you 
> > > don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a
> scale
> > > from a timbre, but 
> > > you can derive the spectral information you need
> > > from the settings 
> > > of the sound source using some (digital)
> > > mathematics.
> > > 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe
> even
> > > for the a-156) 
> > > for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
> > >    
> > > I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
> > > possible
> > > 
> > > Greetings
> > > 
> > > Anton
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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i'll be devil's advocate:  if we're talking ARP filters, why not go  
all the way and give them SLIDERS!

some of you will hopefully agree that sliders/faders are far more  
ergonomic and ultimately musical than knobs.  when i was forming a  
modular strategy awhile back, i went as far as calling Paul Schreiber/ 
MOTM and asking if he'd be interested in building me a filter box  
with two sets of controls, knobs + sliders, that'd be switchable...  
in essence having two sets of cutoff/Q controls and the ability to  
switch between settings.

sounded pretty cool to me, Paul didn't agree.  ARP's were the first  
'pro' analog synths i had (2 Axxe's + a Quadra) and i'll always miss  
being able to throw the sliders around.

yeah, i know good sliders/faders are expensive and get dirty and all  
that good stuff.... that's why i decided to go Doepfer and wait for  
my fantasy filter box.  still, you gotta admit they're fun.

i love the 'exotic' module threads.. sorry i've nothing else to offer  
at this time

cheers
nick


On May 8, 2006, at 5:50 PM, Michael O. wrote:

> I wouldn't mind a filter like the 4012.. I got an ARP2600 with that
> filter, and that's awesome! I have no other filter that's near that
> one.. (And I have a few options to choose from)
>
> /Michael
>
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> skrev:
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

hello dieter,
yes, that's what i meant, the keyboard controller rack
module that will be connected with the normal cv/gate
keyboard or the touch plate keyboard. anyway, this
"scale" function will be included in this future
keyboard controller. 
so, should i make a poll about a separate "scale
programmer" module, or not?
regards,
Bakis.






--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:

> No, as the "new" TKB has been reduced to the basic
> functions and the
> "gimmicks" of the first prototype have been removed
> because of the many
> different ideas. These additional features will be
> (hopefully) included in
> the "keyboard" controller that is outlined on our
> web site (very
> preliminary).
> 
> But this could be also a job for the AD/DA module as
> it is able to process
> incoming analog voltages in real time. This example
> would require a look-up
> table with the table containing the values for the
> output voltages in
> relation to the input voltages (kind of "CV
> waveshaper" as it's nothing but
> a waveshaper but not audio range but for slowly
> moving or fixed voltages).
> The AD/DA module will be able to do a lot of jobs.
> The main problem will be
> to find suitable controls (manual controls,
> attenuators, inputs, displays,
> outputs) for all these applications.
> 
> But I'm sure you all will help us ...
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag
> von Bakis Sirros
> > Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2006 20:09
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: any more ideas for
> exotic future A100
> > modules?
> >
> >
> > hello,
> > i think that this function (scale
> > programming-tuning/cv pots for each keyboard key)
> will
> > be implemented into the TKS, right dieter?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > scale programmer
> > >
> > > moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard
> could
> > > be tuned
> > > individually with a pot in order to achieve
> whatever
> > > tuning system you
> > > wanted.
> > >
> > > I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then
> with
> > > CV wouldn't you
> > > have more precise tuning control? - no
> "stepping".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
> Sorry, may be I am a stupid one, but: What the heck is a "police 
scanner"?
> 
> I know the police as a public institution for inner the monopole 
of lordship
> 
> I know a scanner as a gear, which converts pictures to image 
files, or 
> in a wider meaning as anything that searches for kind of signals.
> 
> What does the "police scanner" scan? Is it used by the police to 
scan 
> for some things (whatever thy may be), or do you scan the 
sourrounding 
> for police men? Sorry, but I just live in country where you do not 
fear 
> the police; so this would sound a littlebit ridiculous to me.
> 
> Florian
>

Not such a stupid question Florian.

"scanner" in this instance refers to a radio scanner that allows you 
to listen in on radio broadcasts outside the normal commercial 
broadcast range. This includes police radio transmissions, aircraft 
transmissions etc.

Cheers,
Adam-V

The 4012 was probably the best known.  Other ARP classic VCFs are the 
4035 and 4072/4075.  There's schematics and info at:
http://www.till.com/arptech/modmain.htm

On May 8, 2006, at 3:10 PM, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> hello michael, anton,
> so, the "classic" ARP filter is the 4012?
> regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
> --- "Michael O." <megathlon2000@yahoo.se> wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't mind a filter like the 4012.. I got an
>> ARP2600 with that
>> filter, and that's awesome! I have no other filter
>> that's near that
>> one.. (And I have a few options to choose from)
>>
>> /Michael
>>
>> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> skrev:
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------
>> Hi Bakis,
>>
>> You're right, this is very important, I was
>> referring to the 'classic'
>> Arp
>> filter that was used in the later Odysseys and the
>> Axxe from 1975 or
>> so, and probably it should be *without* the design
>> flaw that
>> originally cut off frequencies above 11 kHz.
>>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Anton
>>
>> On 8 May 2006, at 10:42, Bakis Sirros wrote:
>>
>>> hello anton,
>>> i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding
>> your
>>> future module suggestions before i make polls
>> about
>>> them.
>>> regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
>>> should this module be modeled around?
>>> regards,
>>> Bakis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> quality is very high, but more than 500 $
>> is
>>>> quite expensive.
>>>>>> and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ
>> does
>>>> not continuously add
>>>>> or
>>>>>> subtract the corresponding band asyou would
>>>> expect it from a mixing
>>>>>> console's EQ. You have to switch between add
>> or
>>>> subtract. So it is
>>>>>> assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
>>>> inverters for the original
>>>>> mix
>>>>>> (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It should be a very simple addon package
>> (one
>>>> TL064, eight resistors,
>>>>>> three switches) which would modify the A127.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Florian
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> well, yes, and i guess you also need some
>> vca's
>>>> for
>>>>> voltage-control of bandwidth and level per
>> filter.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello Florian, Ingo,
>>>>
>>>> Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
>>>> module to me!
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not
>> yet
>>>> finished should not
>>>> be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
>>>> think of new modules,
>>>> so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
>>>>
>>>> 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
>>>> 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does
>> different
>>>> ET's
>>>> 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic,
>> real
>>>> time) scales
>>>> from timbres from vco-type modules, like a
>> custom
>>>> made sinus
>>>> bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator.
>>>> 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources
>> that
>>>> would be
>>>> specially built to work togethjer with the
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>>>> you can derive the spectral information you need
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>>>> 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe
>> even
>>>> for the a-156)
>>>> for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
>>>>
>>>> I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
>>>> possible
>>>>
>>>> Greetings
>>>>
>>>> Anton
>>>>
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Hi Bakis, 

Actually it's not....and I thought this was gonna be an easy one ;-)

The basic idea would be to use the A-108 as a 'template', but I think 
we would have to vote seperately about the filter (sliders doesn't 
seem a realistic option to me).

See also this site:
 
http://www.emulatorarchive.com/AM/AnalogArticles/ARPFilters/arpfilt
ers.html  

The most popular choices are probably the 4012 and the 4072/75


By the way, I will also write down some details about a 
scale/arpeggio module as soon as I have more time

Greetings

Anton

On 8 May 2006, at 15:10, Bakis Sirros wrote:

> hello michael, anton,
> so, the "classic" ARP filter is the 4012?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> --- "Michael O." <megathlon2000@yahoo.se> wrote:
> 
> > I wouldn't mind a filter like the 4012.. I got an
> > ARP2600 with that
> > filter, and that's awesome! I have no other filter
> > that's near that
> > one.. (And I have a few options to choose from)
> > 
> > /Michael
> > 
> > --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> skrev:
> > 
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > Hi Bakis,
> > 
> > You're right, this is very important, I was
> > referring to the 'classic'
> > Arp 
> > filter that was used in the later Odysseys and the
> > Axxe from 1975 or 
> > so, and probably it should be *without* the design
> > flaw that 
> > originally cut off frequencies above 11 kHz. 
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > Anton 
> > 
> > On 8 May 2006, at 10:42, Bakis Sirros wrote:
> > 
> > > hello anton,
> > > i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding
> > your
> > > future module suggestions before i make polls
> > about
> > > them.
> > > regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
> > > should this module be modeled around?
> > > regards,
> > > Bakis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > > > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $
> > is
> > > > quite expensive.
> > > > > > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ
> > does
> > > > not continuously add 
> > > > > or 
> > > > > > subtract the corresponding band asyou would
> > > > expect it from a mixing 
> > > > > > console's EQ. You have to switch between add
> > or
> > > > subtract. So it is 
> > > > > > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
> > > > inverters for the original 
> > > > > mix 
> > > > > > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It should be a very simple addon package
> > (one
> > > > TL064, eight resistors, 
> > > > > > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Florian
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > well, yes, and i guess you also need some
> > vca's
> > > > for
> > > > > voltage-control of bandwidth and level per
> > filter.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hello Florian, Ingo,
> > > > 
> > > > Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
> > > > module to me! 
> > > > 
> > > > I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not
> > yet
> > > > finished should not 
> > > > be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
> > > > think of new modules, 
> > > > so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
> > > > 
> > > > 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
> > > > 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does
> > different
> > > > ET's 
> > > > 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic,
> > real
> > > > time) scales 
> > > > from timbres from vco-type modules, like a
> > custom
> > > > made sinus 
> > > > bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator. 
> > > > 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources
> > that
> > > > would be 
> > > > specially built to work togethjer with the
> > timbral
> > > > quantizer, so you 
> > > > don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a
> > scale
> > > > from a timbre, but 
> > > > you can derive the spectral information you need
> > > > from the settings 
> > > > of the sound source using some (digital)
> > > > mathematics.
> > > > 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe
> > even
> > > > for the a-156) 
> > > > for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
> > > >    
> > > > I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
> > > > possible
> > > > 
> > > > Greetings
> > > > 
> > > > Anton
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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the 4012 was a transistor ladder "moog" filter and doepfer already has 
that (A-120) so go for the 24db (cascade of integrators) 4072 or 4075 
(these two are almost identical)

/A


> The 4012 was probably the best known.  Other ARP classic VCFs are 
the 
> 4035 and 4072/4075.  There's schematics and info at:
> http://www.till.com/arptech/modmain.htm

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Nick Hubben <nick@...> wrote:
>
> i'll be devil's advocate:  if we're talking ARP filters, why not go  
> all the way and give them SLIDERS!
> 
> some of you will hopefully agree that sliders/faders are far more  
> ergonomic and ultimately musical than knobs.


well, i fully disagree.
sliders are a pain on a synthesizer.
but well, it's a matter of taste.

best wishes

ingo

Hi Nick,

> i'll be devil's advocate:  if we're talking ARP filters, why not go  
> all the way and give them SLIDERS!
> 
> some of you will hopefully agree that sliders/faders are far more  
> ergonomic and ultimately musical than knobs.  
I definitely do not agree. It is a well known fact, that sliders are far 
less ergonomic. You can differ a lot more positions on rotary movements 
than on  straigt line formed movements (imagine a car with a fader for 
steering instead a wheel - and imagine the increase of assurance rates 
if every car had a steering fader ;-)).

Sliders may have the advantage of a fast access and a high visuality of 
the selected value, but they are very bad in the detailing of settings.

Florian

Hi Adam

> "scanner" in this instance refers to a radio scanner that allows you 
> to listen in on radio broadcasts outside the normal commercial 
> broadcast range. This includes police radio transmissions, aircraft 
> transmissions etc.
Ok, a simple radio receiver.

Florian

It will be a problem to re-built the 4012 ARP filter as many of the parts
used in this filter (similar to the Moog transistor ladder but with special
dual FETs and dual transistors that are no longer available). One could use
other dual FETs and dual transistors (or even single FETs and transistors)
but it would not be the same.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Michael O.
> Gesendet: Montag, 8. Mai 2006 23:50
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: SV: [Doepfer_a100] Arp module suggestion
>
>
> I wouldn't mind a filter like the 4012.. I got an ARP2600 with that
> filter, and that's awesome! I have no other filter that's near that
> one.. (And I have a few options to choose from)
>
> /Michael
>
> --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> skrev:
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Hi Bakis,
>
> You're right, this is very important, I was referring to the 'classic'
> Arp
> filter that was used in the later Odysseys and the Axxe from 1975 or
> so, and probably it should be *without* the design flaw that
> originally cut off frequencies above 11 kHz.
>
> Greetings
>
> Anton
>
> On 8 May 2006, at 10:42, Bakis Sirros wrote:
>
> > hello anton,
> > i'll wait for your detailed explanation regarding your
> > future module suggestions before i make polls about
> > them.
> > regarding the ARP filter module: which ARP filter
> > should this module be modeled around?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Anton Coops <dubshot@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > quality is very high, but more than 500 $ is
> > > quite expensive.
> > > > > and by the way: I saw, that the cwejman EQ does
> > > not continuously add
> > > > or
> > > > > subtract the corresponding band asyou would
> > > expect it from a mixing
> > > > > console's EQ. You have to switch between add or
> > > subtract. So it is
> > > > > assumingly nothing else than a A127 plus
> > > inverters for the original
> > > > mix
> > > > > (incl. the switches 5 Euro of material).
> > > > >
> > > > > It should be a very simple addon package (one
> > > TL064, eight resistors,
> > > > > three switches) which would modify the A127.
> > > > >
> > > > > Florian
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > well, yes, and i guess you also need some vca's
> > > for
> > > > voltage-control of bandwidth and level per filter.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hello Florian, Ingo,
> > >
> > > Sounds like a good idea for an a-127 expansion
> > > module to me!
> > >
> > > I agree with Ingo that the ideas that are not yet
> > > finished should not
> > > be forgotten, but at the same time it';s fun to
> > > think of new modules,
> > > so I actually have several ideas (sorry :)
> > >
> > > 1. A second A-108, but this time arp-style
> > > 2. Equal Temperament Quantizer that does different
> > > ET's
> > > 3. Timbral Quantizer that can derive (dynamic, real
> > > time) scales
> > > from timbres from vco-type modules, like a custom
> > > made sinus
> > > bank, fm-operator, or a custom ring modulator.
> > > 4. (See 3.) Some oscillators or sound sources that
> > > would be
> > > specially built to work togethjer with the timbral
> > > quantizer, so you
> > > don't need to do Fourier analysis to derive a scale
> > > from a timbre, but
> > > you can derive the spectral information you need
> > > from the settings
> > > of the sound source using some (digital)
> > > mathematics.
> > > 5. expansion-module for both quantisers (maybe even
> > > for the a-156)
> > > for creating custom scales and arpeggio's
> > >
> > > I'll write down more about idea's 2-5 as soon as
> > > possible
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Anton
> > >
> >
> >
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if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
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and out of them i'll create some new polls.
i am waiting...
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what's this?
details please.
regards,
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>   Fabio Delben
> 
> Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> ha
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> it is brainstorm time again!
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> A100
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> i am waiting...
> best regards,
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> 
> 
> 
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you're very welcome :-)


> saving money for another portable cabinet,


thats never a bad thing :-)


best wishes

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It was a particular resonant equalizer for strings simulation. The moog rack series like phaser and the parametric equalizer. Pretty rare.
  Ciao
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Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> ha scritto: 
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what's this?
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> best regards,
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> 
> 
> 
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wrote:
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> An intermediate solution for DIYs would be to wire the address 
A0/A1/A2
> outputs of the A-154 and the "old" A-155 controller unit to jack 
sockets as
> well as the address inputs of the A-155. It's only mechanics and 
some wiring
> (P.S. we offer unprinted but punched A-180 4HP front panels since 2 
weeks
> for such applications in addition to the unprinted/punched standard 
8HP
> panels). Adding protection resistors (~ 1k) to avoid short circuit 
problems
> at the address outputs will be a good idea.
> 
> In this way you are able to control the A-155 from the address 
source you
> want.
> 
> If there are sufficient inquiries we could manufacture such passive 
adapter
> modules that make the address in- and outputs available at jack 
sockets.
> 
> Best wishes
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> > Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> > modules?-> Modular Sequencing System
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to have it more 
modular.
> >
> >
> > * Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
> > * CV adress generators (this might be the module Andrew Maunder 
was
> > thinking about when asking for editable digital signals)
> > * Possibilities to modify address busses on digital level 
(partially
> > with already existing digital modules could be used)
> > * 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer) with 4bit 
adress input
> > and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional (one input is
> > distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice versa).
> > * 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV sequencer), all features 
as the
> > switch scanner.
> > * Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
> > * optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface (Dieter could 
use

> > parts from the OEM series).
> >
> >
> > More Ideas to come...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

Hi

I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to have it more modular.


* Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
* CV adress generators (this might be the module Andrew Maunder was 
thinking about when asking for editable digital signals)
* Possibilities to modify address busses on digital level (partially 
with already existing digital modules could be used)
* 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer) with 4bit adress input 
and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional (one input is 
distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice versa).
* 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV sequencer), all features as the 
switch scanner.
* Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
* optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface (Dieter could use 
parts from the OEM series).


More Ideas to come...

gents

i certainly see your points - i do feel a lot more akin to on-the-fly  
performance style with my synths, i'm not sure i've ever written down  
a setting in my life.    i developed mild tendonitis years back from  
working with rack-mount samplers and mixers, so i think working with  
the sliders on ARP's was always a relief - and i've always had more  
fun with them live then any other synth.

i must say, i've always appreciated the openness to crazy opinions on  
this board versus AH...  danke.

saving money for another portable cabinet,
Nick

On May 9, 2006, at 3:45 AM, Florian Anwander wrote:

> Hi Nick,
>
>> i'll be devil's advocate:  if we're talking ARP filters, why not go
>> all the way and give them SLIDERS!
>>
>> some of you will hopefully agree that sliders/faders are far more
>> ergonomic and ultimately musical than knobs.
> I definitely do not agree. It is a well known fact, that sliders  
> are far
> less ergonomic. You can differ a lot more positions on rotary  
> movements
> than on  straigt line formed movements (imagine a car with a fader for
> steering instead a wheel - and imagine the increase of assurance rates
> if every car had a steering fader ;-)).
>
> Sliders may have the advantage of a fast access and a high  
> visuality of
> the selected value, but they are very bad in the detailing of  
> settings.
>
> Florian
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I'd like to have a DIN-Sync to trigger interface. Just a simple thing:

- An incoming DIN-Sync should be given as seperate signals on 3,5mm sockets

- The DIN-Sync Start/Stop Gate-signal should be given additionally as 
separate Start and Stop triggers (required for A-155).

- The DIN-Sync clock should be available also diveded to selectable 
clock rates (1/1, 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/6, 1/8, 1/12, 1/16, ...) in 
rhythmical usable relations[*]! Perhaps also pseudo-shuffled (for 1/12: 
1,3,4,6,7,9,10,12, for 1/16: 1,4,5,8,9,12,13,16)

- counter controlled slave-start/stop action. This is a feature I 
learned to know with the mungo enterprises sync2 (see 
http://home.netspeed.com.au/aistorm/sync2.html): an internal counter 
remembers which clock is the first beat of a bar. If you hit the stop 
button, the clock will go on until the next bar and stop to the first 
hit of the next bar. If you then hit the start button the feature will 
wait until the next bar and start then. (I have to admit, that I don't 
know how I could live without this feature the last thirty years. ;-))

- I wouldn't mind if this module also had MIDI-In

Florian


[*] Pay attention: the A-162 does NOT provide this, because the rising 
edges of the different divider outs are not synced to the first clock 
in, but to the second rising edge of the logical stage above.

An intermediate solution for DIYs would be to wire the address A0/A1/A2
outputs of the A-154 and the "old" A-155 controller unit to jack sockets as
well as the address inputs of the A-155. It's only mechanics and some wiring
(P.S. we offer unprinted but punched A-180 4HP front panels since 2 weeks
for such applications in addition to the unprinted/punched standard 8HP
panels). Adding protection resistors (~ 1k) to avoid short circuit problems
at the address outputs will be a good idea.

In this way you are able to control the A-155 from the address source you
want.

If there are sufficient inquiries we could manufacture such passive adapter
modules that make the address in- and outputs available at jack sockets.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Florian Anwander
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 16:13
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?-> Modular Sequencing System
>
>
> Hi
>
> I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to have it more modular.
>
>
> * Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
> * CV adress generators (this might be the module Andrew Maunder was
> thinking about when asking for editable digital signals)
> * Possibilities to modify address busses on digital level (partially
> with already existing digital modules could be used)
> * 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer) with 4bit adress input
> and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional (one input is
> distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice versa).
> * 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV sequencer), all features as the
> switch scanner.
> * Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
> * optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface (Dieter could use
> parts from the OEM series).
>
>
> More Ideas to come...
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Nick

> i certainly see your points - i do feel a lot more akin to on-the-fly  
> performance style with my synths, i'm not sure i've ever written down  
> a setting in my life.    
Me too. I never write down a setting. But sometimes the decision whether 
a sound is lush f*rt in the wind or a million seller hit ;-) depends on 
a decaytime of some nanoseconds faster than my actual setting. With 
slider based synths like the Roland 100m or a ARP Odyssee (I never had 
an 2600 for longer time) I never could reach this point of perfect sound 
- or better: Either I had reached it occasionally or I would never reach 
it. In the opposite a Minimoog (which of course has to be in perfect 
shape) whose rotary knobs allow you exactly this required minimal 
changes of sounds which make it.


> i must say, i've always appreciated the openness to crazy opinions on  
> this board versus AH...  danke.
Wait until the day that you recognize the vans with the black windows in 
front of your door. ;-)

Florian

Yup, I agree completely.  I find sliders ill-suited to very fine
adjustments.

 

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Behalf Of Florian Anwander
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:15 AM
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Arp module : SLIDERS!

 

Hi Nick

> i certainly see your points - i do feel a lot more akin to on-the-fly  
> performance style with my synths, i'm not sure i've ever written down  
> a setting in my life.    
Me too. I never write down a setting. But sometimes the decision whether 
a sound is lush f*rt in the wind or a million seller hit ;-) depends on 
a decaytime of some nanoseconds faster than my actual setting. With 
slider based synths like the Roland 100m or a ARP Odyssee (I never had 
an 2600 for longer time) I never could reach this point of perfect sound 
- or better: Either I had reached it occasionally or I would never reach 
it. In the opposite a Minimoog (which of course has to be in perfect 
shape) whose rotary knobs allow you exactly this required minimal 
changes of sounds which make it.


> i must say, i've always appreciated the openness to crazy opinions on  
> this board versus AH...  danke.
Wait until the day that you recognize the vans with the black windows in 
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Florian




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;-)
regards,
Bakis



--- Nick Hubben <nick@prod4ever.com> wrote:

> gents
> 
> i certainly see your points - i do feel a lot more
> akin to on-the-fly  
> performance style with my synths, i'm not sure i've
> ever written down  
> a setting in my life.    i developed mild tendonitis
> years back from  
> working with rack-mount samplers and mixers, so i
> think working with  
> the sliders on ARP's was always a relief - and i've
> always had more  
> fun with them live then any other synth.
> 
> i must say, i've always appreciated the openness to
> crazy opinions on  
> this board versus AH...  danke.
> 
> saving money for another portable cabinet,
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> On May 9, 2006, at 3:45 AM, Florian Anwander wrote:
> 
> > Hi Nick,
> >
> >> i'll be devil's advocate:  if we're talking ARP
> filters, why not go
> >> all the way and give them SLIDERS!
> >>
> >> some of you will hopefully agree that
> sliders/faders are far more
> >> ergonomic and ultimately musical than knobs.
> > I definitely do not agree. It is a well known
> fact, that sliders  
> > are far
> > less ergonomic. You can differ a lot more
> positions on rotary  
> > movements
> > than on  straigt line formed movements (imagine a
> car with a fader for
> > steering instead a wheel - and imagine the
> increase of assurance rates
> > if every car had a steering fader ;-)).
> >
> > Sliders may have the advantage of a fast access
> and a high  
> > visuality of
> > the selected value, but they are very bad in the
> detailing of  
> > settings.
> >
> > Florian
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On Tue, 9 May 2006, anatronn wrote:

> the 4012 was a transistor ladder "moog" filter and doepfer already has
> that (A-120) so go for the 24db (cascade of integrators) 4072 or 4075
> (these two are almost identical)

Maybe, though the 4012 in my 2600 always sounded quite different than the 
filter in my mini.

-Brandon

I think that Modcan has very good-sounding Arp 4075 filter already. Regards,

http://www.modcan.com/bseries/modulesb.html

Than click on 4075 LPF 36B.

Regards,

Zoran

>From: Brandon Daniel <bdu@fdiskc.com>
>Reply-To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: SV: [Doepfer_a100] Arp module suggestion
>Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>On Tue, 9 May 2006, anatronn wrote:
>
> > the 4012 was a transistor ladder "moog" filter and doepfer already has
> > that (A-120) so go for the 24db (cascade of integrators) 4072 or 4075
> > (these two are almost identical)
>
>Maybe, though the 4012 in my 2600 always sounded quite different than the
>filter in my mini.
>
>-Brandon

My 2 centimes...

In addition to my previous wishes for a more discriminating quantizer
similar to what Anton has suggested, and my spike and ripple module...

One synth that I have always lusted after was the RMI Harmonic  
Synthesizer.
http://www.jarrography.free.fr/details_equipement_audio.php?id_equip=7

It had a keyboard and 2 oscillators, but what made it unique was that  
for each oscillator
you had separate sliders for the FUNDAMENTAL and 16 OVERTONES!

I am not a great fan of sliders-I would prefer knobs.
2 ins 1 out.  17 potentiometers.  It would probably fit into 20hp.

I think a single VCO with this capability for additive synthesis  
would be
unique and highly marketable.

...and to coin a phrase:   I'll take two!!!

sfrules

hello dieter,
that would be great to offer such simple and usefull
modules.
regards,
Bakis.



--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:

> An intermediate solution for DIYs would be to wire
> the address A0/A1/A2
> outputs of the A-154 and the "old" A-155 controller
> unit to jack sockets as
> well as the address inputs of the A-155. It's only
> mechanics and some wiring
> (P.S. we offer unprinted but punched A-180 4HP front
> panels since 2 weeks
> for such applications in addition to the
> unprinted/punched standard 8HP
> panels). Adding protection resistors (~ 1k) to avoid
> short circuit problems
> at the address outputs will be a good idea.
> 
> In this way you are able to control the A-155 from
> the address source you
> want.
> 
> If there are sufficient inquiries we could
> manufacture such passive adapter
> modules that make the address in- and outputs
> available at jack sockets.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag
> von Florian Anwander
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Mai 2006 16:13
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for
> exotic future A100
> > modules?-> Modular Sequencing System
> >
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to
> have it more modular.
> >
> >
> > * Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
> > * CV adress generators (this might be the module
> Andrew Maunder was
> > thinking about when asking for editable digital
> signals)
> > * Possibilities to modify address busses on
> digital level (partially
> > with already existing digital modules could be
> used)
> > * 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer)
> with 4bit adress input
> > and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional
> (one input is
> > distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice
> versa).
> > * 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV
> sequencer), all features as the
> > switch scanner.
> > * Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
> > * optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface
> (Dieter could use
> > parts from the OEM series).
> >
> >
> > More Ideas to come...
> >
> >
> >
> >
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hello,
just try the excellent rs370/rs375 from AS.
this is such a module. you have a digital osc with 32
partials of which the 16 of them are controlable by 16
knobs plus 16 cv inputs! plus many many other
features.
btw, i would not find of course if doepfer would want
to make an additive osc too, as it would have
different features i guess!     :-)
regards,
Bakis.




--- sfrules <sfrules@together.net> wrote:

> 
> My 2 centimes...
> 
> In addition to my previous wishes for a more
> discriminating quantizer
> similar to what Anton has suggested, and my spike
> and ripple module...
> 
> One synth that I have always lusted after was the
> RMI Harmonic  
> Synthesizer.
>
http://www.jarrography.free.fr/details_equipement_audio.php?id_equip=7
> 
> It had a keyboard and 2 oscillators, but what made
> it unique was that  
> for each oscillator
> you had separate sliders for the FUNDAMENTAL and 16
> OVERTONES!
> 
> I am not a great fan of sliders-I would prefer
> knobs.
> 2 ins 1 out.  17 potentiometers.  It would probably
> fit into 20hp.
> 
> I think a single VCO with this capability for
> additive synthesis  
> would be
> unique and highly marketable.
> 
> ...and to coin a phrase:   I'll take two!!!
> 
> sfrules
> 
> 


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Hi, Dudes

  rs370/rs375?

Looks like a wonderful module, but it is too polyphonic, too complex,  
too big, and too pricey!!
Give me mastery over ONE note and I will be happy!   I am not really  
sure you need
to have 32 overtones.  Unless you are playing infra-bass, the last  
dozen or so would be
performing for bats and other small undesirable species, nicht var?

<signed>

poor johnny one-note

hello,
no. additive synths have up to 128 harmonics for each
voice.
having more harmonics gives you much more control over
the sound's timbre.
so, at least for me, it would be usefull to have at
least 32 harmonics for an additive machine/module.
regards,
Bakis.




--- sfrules <sfrules@together.net> wrote:

> 
> Hi, Dudes
> 
>   rs370/rs375?
> 
> Looks like a wonderful module, but it is too
> polyphonic, too complex,  
> too big, and too pricey!!
> Give me mastery over ONE note and I will be happy!  
> I am not really  
> sure you need
> to have 32 overtones.  Unless you are playing
> infra-bass, the last  
> dozen or so would be
> performing for bats and other small undesirable
> species, nicht var?
> 
> <signed>
> 
> poor johnny one-note
> 
> 


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Hi everone, 
           How about a digital envelope generator/modulation source 
allowing you to save patches/mixtures for live recall.  Possibly
  offering different multistage (2/4/6/8) envelopes, 1/2 voltage 
control ins assignable to functions (rather than one per),optionally 
L.F.O., noise, sample and hold,random ect ,as a single or multiple 
module, maybe even with midi patch recall. (with slewed/filtered outs 
to avoid steping). 
 
 
 
 

 
 
  

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>
> ok list,
> it is brainstorm time again!
> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!
> i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> i am waiting...
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Bakis!

I stand, er, sit corrected!

many thanks,

sfrules

Hi  threeseatmoon

>            How about a digital envelope generator/modulation source 
> allowing you to save patches/mixtures for live recall.[..andotherstufffromdigital...]
I do own such a piece: the HARMS MAC-16 MIDI-CV Interface. But I found 
out, that one doesn't use this feature, simply because you do not mixup 
the way of access to an instrument. If you have a modular synth with 
knobs and cables, you don't want to jump over to a handling like editing 
the Yamaha DX7.

And also regard economy: It would be quite expensive to develope such a 
unit. The MAC 16 costed 10 years ago around 1400 Deutschmarks, which is 
equivalent to a todays price of 1000 Euro. Hey, for 1000 Euro you get an 
fully polyphonic nord modular on the used market or any new VA-synth.

Finally the nord modular is the solution I have chosen for programmable 
  modular synthesizing.

Florian

hello fabio,
i have already created a poll about a resonant EQ
module. would it make sense to create another poll for
a specialized string simulation resonant EQ module?
won't the proposed "general" resonant EQ module be
able to make this string simulation that you're
talking about?
regards,
Bakis.



--- fabio delben <memestudio@yahoo.it> wrote:

> It was a particular resonant equalizer for strings
> simulation. The moog rack series like phaser and the
> parametric equalizer. Pretty rare.
>   Ciao
>   Fabio Delben
> 
> Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> ha
> scritto: 
>   hello fabio,
> what's this?
> details please.
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- fabio delben <memestudio@yahoo.it> wrote:
> 
> > A string filter like moog.
> >   Fabio Delben
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com> ha
> > scritto: 
> >   ok list,
> > it is brainstorm time again!
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic
> > A100
> > module, just say it!
> > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two
> weeks
> > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > i am waiting...
> > best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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hello florian, dieter,
so, taking into account the recent email from dieter
telling how he could make an expansion module to brign
the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155 clock
to the front panel, should i, or should i not, create
a new poll about a modular sequencer?
regards,
Bakis.




--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> Hi
> 
> I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to have
> it more modular.
> 
> 
> * Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
> * CV adress generators (this might be the module
> Andrew Maunder was 
> thinking about when asking for editable digital
> signals)
> * Possibilities to modify address busses on digital
> level (partially 
> with already existing digital modules could be used)
> * 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer)
> with 4bit adress input 
> and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional
> (one input is 
> distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice
> versa).
> * 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV sequencer),
> all features as the 
> switch scanner.
> * Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
> * optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface
> (Dieter could use 
> parts from the OEM series).
> 
> 
> More Ideas to come...
> 
> 


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Hi Bakis,

I am in developping a sketch for such a system, which would extend the 
A-154/5. So lets wait until I finished it and lets do the poll then later.

Florian

Bakis Sirros wrote:

> hello florian, dieter,
> so, taking into account the recent email from dieter
> telling how he could make an expansion module to brign
> the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155 clock
> to the front panel, should i, or should i not, create
> a new poll about a modular sequencer?
> regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi
>>
>>I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to have
>>it more modular.
>>
>>
>>* Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
>>* CV adress generators (this might be the module
>>Andrew Maunder was 
>>thinking about when asking for editable digital
>>signals)
>>* Possibilities to modify address busses on digital
>>level (partially 
>>with already existing digital modules could be used)
>>* 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer)
>>with 4bit adress input 
>>and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional
>>(one input is 
>>distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice
>>versa).
>>* 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV sequencer),
>>all features as the 
>>switch scanner.
>>* Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
>>* optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface
>>(Dieter could use 
>>parts from the OEM series).
>>
>>
>>More Ideas to come...
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
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> hello florian, dieter,
> so, taking into account the recent email from dieter
> telling how he could make an expansion module to brign
> the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155 clock
> to the front panel, should i, or should i not, create
> a new poll about a modular sequencer?
> regards,
> Bakis.

For the moment I'd recommend a poll concerning an additional front panel
that makes available the address and clock in/outputs of A-154 and A-155 as
this could be realized within a short time provided that there are
sufficient inquiries (because of the initial charges for the pcb and front
panel). Another solution would be a corresponding note on the DIY page if
there are not sufficient inquiries. It's no electronic but only mechanics
(drilling holes into blind panels, screwing sockets to the holes) and wiring
the sockets to the ribbon cables that are normally used to connect A-154 and
A-155.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

P.S. We added a note on the DIY page how to modify the Wasp filter A-124 for
self-oscillation.

One could try the combination of A-127 and a polarizing mixer A-138c to
emulate an equalizer:

Audio Source -> A-127 Audio In and Input #1 of A-138c
A-127 Audio Out #1 -> Input #2 of A-138c
A-127 Audio Out #2 -> Input #3 of A-138c
A-127 Audio Out #3 -> Input #4 of A-138c

Input #1 of A-138c is used to control the original share of the signal.
Inputs #2...4 are used to add or subtract the filter shares to the original
signal.

From the theory it should work but maybe the phase relations between audio
in and out of the A-127 thwart the plan (with the VC polarizer A-133 even a
voltage controlled version could be realized). Sorry I have no time to try
this out within the next few days (the A-101-9 manual has to be written,
especially the examples have to be tested and written down). If it works we
could think about a revision of the A-127 with polarizers instead of the
normal attenuators (the controls labelled "Audio Level"). Last week we
received new A-100 potentiometer samples with center tap and center click
position for such applications (they work like two separate potentiometer
for left and right half of the rotation angle).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Doepfer Musikelektronik GmbH
Email address: hardware@doepfer.de
Web Site: www.doepfer.com

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> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 23:40
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?
>
>
> hello fabio,
> i have already created a poll about a resonant EQ
> module. would it make sense to create another poll for
> a specialized string simulation resonant EQ module?
> won't the proposed "general" resonant EQ module be
> able to make this string simulation that you're
> talking about?
> regards,
> Bakis.

hello florian,
ok, great.
regards,
Bakis.



--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> Hi Bakis,
> 
> I am in developping a sketch for such a system,
> which would extend the 
> A-154/5. So lets wait until I finished it and lets
> do the poll then later.
> 
> Florian
> 
> Bakis Sirros wrote:
> 
> > hello florian, dieter,
> > so, taking into account the recent email from
> dieter
> > telling how he could make an expansion module to
> brign
> > the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155
> clock
> > to the front panel, should i, or should i not,
> create
> > a new poll about a modular sequencer?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Hi
> >>
> >>I think the A154/155 is great, but I'd like to
> have
> >>it more modular.
> >>
> >>
> >>* Clock controlled address counter (= masterclock)
> >>* CV adress generators (this might be the module
> >>Andrew Maunder was 
> >>thinking about when asking for editable digital
> >>signals)
> >>* Possibilities to modify address busses on
> digital
> >>level (partially 
> >>with already existing digital modules could be
> used)
> >>* 16 step switch row scanner (=trigger sequencer)
> >>with 4bit adress input 
> >>and option for stacking. Should work bidirectional
> >>(one input is 
> >>distributed via address to 16 outputs anc vice
> >>versa).
> >>* 16 step potentiometer row scanner (=CV
> sequencer),
> >>all features as the 
> >>switch scanner.
> >>* Interfaces for the existing A155 and A154.
> >>* optional relais interface or MIDI-Out-Interface
> >>(Dieter could use 
> >>parts from the OEM series).
> >>
> >>
> >>More Ideas to come...
> >>
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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hello dieter,
ok, i'll wait for florian's sketch and then make a
poll.
best regards,
Bakis.




--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:

> > hello florian, dieter,
> > so, taking into account the recent email from
> dieter
> > telling how he could make an expansion module to
> brign
> > the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155
> clock
> > to the front panel, should i, or should i not,
> create
> > a new poll about a modular sequencer?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> 
> For the moment I'd recommend a poll concerning an
> additional front panel
> that makes available the address and clock
> in/outputs of A-154 and A-155 as
> this could be realized within a short time provided
> that there are
> sufficient inquiries (because of the initial charges
> for the pcb and front
> panel). Another solution would be a corresponding
> note on the DIY page if
> there are not sufficient inquiries. It's no
> electronic but only mechanics
> (drilling holes into blind panels, screwing sockets
> to the holes) and wiring
> the sockets to the ribbon cables that are normally
> used to connect A-154 and
> A-155.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> P.S. We added a note on the DIY page how to modify
> the Wasp filter A-124 for
> self-oscillation.
> 
> 


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
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hello dieter,
so, this would be a poll about an "expansion" module
that would bring the a0,a1,a2 addresses of the a155 to
the front panel as inputs and the a0,a1,a2 addresses
of the a155 clock and a154 clock as outputs?(does this
ssentence makes sense? i am not an electronics
engineer)
please confirm.
best regards,
Bakis.



--- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:

> > hello florian, dieter,
> > so, taking into account the recent email from
> dieter
> > telling how he could make an expansion module to
> brign
> > the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155
> clock
> > to the front panel, should i, or should i not,
> create
> > a new poll about a modular sequencer?
> > regards,
> > Bakis.
> 
> For the moment I'd recommend a poll concerning an
> additional front panel
> that makes available the address and clock
> in/outputs of A-154 and A-155 as
> this could be realized within a short time provided
> that there are
> sufficient inquiries (because of the initial charges
> for the pcb and front
> panel). Another solution would be a corresponding
> note on the DIY page if
> there are not sufficient inquiries. It's no
> electronic but only mechanics
> (drilling holes into blind panels, screwing sockets
> to the holes) and wiring
> the sockets to the ribbon cables that are normally
> used to connect A-154 and
> A-155.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> P.S. We added a note on the DIY page how to modify
> the Wasp filter A-124 for
> self-oscillation.
> 
> 


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
http://www.rubber.gr
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Hi, chilluns!

This idea is simple, cheap, and desperately needed:

A switch trigger In and Out Conversion module for interface with
Moog equipment.  Appropriate Cinch-Jones jacks would be
nice, too.

The A-165 Trigger Modifier won't do it.
Someone mentioned a simple, but untested,
modification that would do it.

Some months ago I sent my A-165 back to my dealer, who sent it
to Dieter & Co for the circuit mod.

Still waiting...

?

sfrules

You can convert an S-trig in with the A166 dual logic module, whose
inverters apparently are different from the A175 inverters.

 

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To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Any more ideas for exotic future A100 modules?

 



Hi, chilluns!

This idea is simple, cheap, and desperately needed:

A switch trigger In and Out Conversion module for interface with
Moog equipment.  Appropriate Cinch-Jones jacks would be
nice, too.

The A-165 Trigger Modifier won't do it.
Someone mentioned a simple, but untested,
modification that would do it.

Some months ago I sent my A-165 back to my dealer, who sent it
to Dieter & Co for the circuit mod.

Still waiting...

?

sfrules



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Thanks, Chuck!

In my ignorance I didn't even
consider the A-175!  Just as well, eh?
But I can say I lusted after the A-166
not even realizing it might solve my problem.

Still, it would be a blessing to be able to
do it in 4 HP.

Thanks, again!

sfrules

Hi Bakis
> so, this would be a poll about an "expansion" module
> that would bring the a0,a1,a2 addresses 
Please do it at least 4 bit

> of the a155 clock and a154 clock as outputs?(does this
> ssentence makes sense? 
Basically it should be every internally wired clock, address or trigger 
connection offered as an normalled insert.

Florian

Yes, and maybe the address and clock signals of the "old" A-155 controller
that is used if the A-155 runs without A-154. The expansion module would
have these sockets available:

A0 In A-155
A1 In A-155
A2 In A-155
Clock In A-155

A0 Out A-154
A1 Out A-154
A2 Out A-154
Clock Out A-154

A0 Out A-155 (controller board of A-155)
A1 Out A-154 (controller board of A-155)
A2 Out A-154 (controller board of A-155)
Clock Out A-154 (controller board of A-155)

It's very simple to built this "module" as an DIY project (no electronics
necessary, only wiring of the sockets to certain terminals of the pc
boards).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Montag, 15. Mai 2006 19:44
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules? -> Modular Sequencing System
>
>
> hello dieter,
> so, this would be a poll about an "expansion" module
> that would bring the a0,a1,a2 addresses of the a155 to
> the front panel as inputs and the a0,a1,a2 addresses
> of the a155 clock and a154 clock as outputs?(does this
> ssentence makes sense? i am not an electronics
> engineer)
> please confirm.
> best regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
>
> --- Dieter Doepfer <hardware@doepfer.de> wrote:
>
> > > hello florian, dieter,
> > > so, taking into account the recent email from
> > dieter
> > > telling how he could make an expansion module to
> > brign
> > > the a0,a1,a2,a3 addresses of the a154 and a155
> > clock
> > > to the front panel, should i, or should i not,
> > create
> > > a new poll about a modular sequencer?
> > > regards,
> > > Bakis.
> >
> > For the moment I'd recommend a poll concerning an
> > additional front panel
> > that makes available the address and clock
> > in/outputs of A-154 and A-155 as
> > this could be realized within a short time provided
> > that there are
> > sufficient inquiries (because of the initial charges
> > for the pcb and front
> > panel). Another solution would be a corresponding
> > note on the DIY page if
> > there are not sufficient inquiries. It's no
> > electronic but only mechanics
> > (drilling holes into blind panels, screwing sockets
> > to the holes) and wiring
> > the sockets to the ribbon cables that are normally
> > used to connect A-154 and
> > A-155.
> >
> > Best wishes
> > Dieter Doepfer
> >
> > P.S. We added a note on the DIY page how to modify
> > the Wasp filter A-124 for
> > self-oscillation.
> >
> >
>
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber.gr
> Athens-Greece
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sfrules,

we never received such a module for "modification". Who is your dealer and
are you sure that he has sent it?

It's nothing but a resistor and transistor as described on our FAQ pages
(www.doepfer.com > FAQ > Converting Gate to Switched Trigger. Maybe your
dealer can do this modification as the shipping charges will be a multiple
of the modification costs (a few cents only for the parts and a maybe 5-10
minutes of working time).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

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> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von sfrules
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 04:11
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: [Doepfer_a100] Any more ideas for exotic future A100 modules?
>
>
>
>
> Hi, chilluns!
>
> This idea is simple, cheap, and desperately needed:
>
> A switch trigger In and Out Conversion module for interface with
> Moog equipment.  Appropriate Cinch-Jones jacks would be
> nice, too.
>
> The A-165 Trigger Modifier won't do it.
> Someone mentioned a simple, but untested,
> modification that would do it.
>
> Some months ago I sent my A-165 back to my dealer, who sent it
> to Dieter & Co for the circuit mod.
>
> Still waiting...
>
> ?
>
> sfrules

Hello,

Responding off list.

sfrules

hello florian, dieter,
ok, now i'm confused.
the internal a155 addreses and a155, a154 clocks are 3
bits(ao,a1,a2) right? how can an expansion nmodule for
these could be 4 bits then?
also, dieter and florian,
how my new poll should be in the end?
with the outputs/inputs that dieter suggested, or with
the "every internally wired clock,
address or trigger connection offered as an normalled
insert" that florian suggested? help!
best regards,
Bakis.





--- Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@consol.de>
wrote:

> Hi Bakis
> > so, this would be a poll about an "expansion"
> module
> > that would bring the a0,a1,a2 addresses 
> Please do it at least 4 bit
> 
> > of the a155 clock and a154 clock as outputs?(does
> this
> > ssentence makes sense? 
> Basically it should be every internally wired clock,
> address or trigger 
> connection offered as an normalled insert.
> 
> Florian
> 
> 


Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
[Doepfer_a100] group owner
http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
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Hi Bakis

> the internal a155 addreses and a155, a154 clocks are 3
> bits(ao,a1,a2) right? how can an expansion nmodule for
> these could be 4 bits then?
Sorry for the confusion ;-). I don't have the schemoes here, and I do 
not own a A154, but I thought the 1-8/9-16 is direct connected from the 
A154 to the A155. This is the fourths bit.


> also, dieter and florian,
> how my new poll should be in the end?
of course MY suggestion ;-)))) No honestly: I assume Dieter listed 
everything, that is worth to be brought to the surface (and doable 
without electronic effort from the technical side).


Florian

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 15:14
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules? -> Modular Sequencing System
>
>
> hello florian, dieter,
> ok, now i'm confused.
> the internal a155 addreses and a155, a154 clocks are 3
> bits(ao,a1,a2) right? how can an expansion nmodule for
> these could be 4 bits then?

In addition to the addresses a0, a1 and a2 you also need the clock signal.
It is used for the trigger outputs (the clock pulsewidth is responsible for
the length of the trigger pulses).

a3 is only necessary of two A-155 are in use (the A-154 has details
concerning the usage of A3 with VC switches).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

Hi Dieter

The idea of such an interface module, would be to provide not only the 
controll lines which are used for a A155, but all available.
e.g you could use the adress data as gates for envelopes or what ever.

btw: the outputs should be made as multiples (at least two outs per line)

Florian

Dieter Doepfer wrote:

>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>>[mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
>>Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 15:14
>>An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
>>Betreff: Re: AW: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
>>modules? -> Modular Sequencing System
>>
>>
>>hello florian, dieter,
>>ok, now i'm confused.
>>the internal a155 addreses and a155, a154 clocks are 3
>>bits(ao,a1,a2) right? how can an expansion nmodule for
>>these could be 4 bits then?
> 
> 
> In addition to the addresses a0, a1 and a2 you also need the clock signal.
> It is used for the trigger outputs (the clock pulsewidth is responsible for
> the length of the trigger pulses).
> 
> a3 is only necessary of two A-155 are in use (the A-154 has details
> concerning the usage of A3 with VC switches).
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 

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I like to create patterns that have nothing to do with standard
sequencing or keyboard playing - so keep that in mind with this module
idea - it is nice to have modulation sources that are meant to be
controlled in real time as opposed to setting them and leaving the
patch... so on that note...

I'd love to see a module that could take an incoming signal and "skip"
a manually set number of peaks in order to derive new patterns or
waveforms.

I'll explain with an example... let's say you took an LFO with a
rectangular or pulse waveform and wanted to trigger an envelope with
it but skip every 3rd pulse. You'd be able to set the module to
somehow derive an irregular waveform from the regular pulse of the
input... and this could be manually set for however many peaks you'd
like to "skip".

.. and this could function with LFO rates or audio rates to process CV
or audio.

I don't know how this would technically work, but I hope the idea
makes sense. I'd imagine you could use a couple modules to come close
to this idea but wouldn't it have to be a digital control in order to
exactly specify the number of "skips" and then how could the waveform
be smoothed? some type of slewing?

hmmm.. would it be something like an envelope follower into a digital
device that reads the frequency and then applies a slew to the input
according to the manually set number of "skips"???

If I understand everything this should be possible with an A-155:

LFO pulse out -> step in A-155
gate out #4 of A-155 -> reset of A-155 (limits the length to 3 steps)

The trigger rows (steps 1-3) are used to define which of the LFO pulses are
skipped or passed on.

Instead of the LFO you could use the gate output of an external input module
A-119 that generates the "peaks" of an audio signal.

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von untiedstates
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2006 17:46
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules? -> Modular Seq
>
>
> I like to create patterns that have nothing to do with standard
> sequencing or keyboard playing - so keep that in mind with this module
> idea - it is nice to have modulation sources that are meant to be
> controlled in real time as opposed to setting them and leaving the
> patch... so on that note...
>
> I'd love to see a module that could take an incoming signal and "skip"
> a manually set number of peaks in order to derive new patterns or
> waveforms.
>
> I'll explain with an example... let's say you took an LFO with a
> rectangular or pulse waveform and wanted to trigger an envelope with
> it but skip every 3rd pulse. You'd be able to set the module to
> somehow derive an irregular waveform from the regular pulse of the
> input... and this could be manually set for however many peaks you'd
> like to "skip".
>
> .. and this could function with LFO rates or audio rates to process CV
> or audio.
>
> I don't know how this would technically work, but I hope the idea
> makes sense. I'd imagine you could use a couple modules to come close
> to this idea but wouldn't it have to be a digital control in order to
> exactly specify the number of "skips" and then how could the waveform
> be smoothed? some type of slewing?
>
> hmmm.. would it be something like an envelope follower into a digital
> device that reads the frequency and then applies a slew to the input
> according to the manually set number of "skips"???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hello Dieter... the A-155 would do part of what I want, defining 
pulses to be skipped, but I wanted to deal with audio as well. I 
just realized that I might be able to "skip" LFO pulses and audio 
frequency pulses with the A-151 switch since it can handle fast VCO 
rates. So it looks like what I want already exists in a way.
thanks,
Bryan K.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Dieter Doepfer" <hardware@...> 
wrote:
>
> If I understand everything this should be possible with an A-155:
> 
> LFO pulse out -> step in A-155
> gate out #4 of A-155 -> reset of A-155 (limits the length to 3 
steps)
> 
> The trigger rows (steps 1-3) are used to define which of the LFO 
pulses are
> skipped or passed on.
> 
> Instead of the LFO you could use the gate output of an external 
input module
> A-119 that generates the "peaks" of an audio signal.
> 
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von untiedstates
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Mai 2006 17:46
> > An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> > Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] any more ideas for exotic future A100
> > modules? -> Modular Seq
> >
> >
> > I like to create patterns that have nothing to do with standard
> > sequencing or keyboard playing - so keep that in mind with this 
module
> > idea - it is nice to have modulation sources that are meant to be
> > controlled in real time as opposed to setting them and leaving 
the
> > patch... so on that note...
> >
> > I'd love to see a module that could take an incoming signal 
and "skip"
> > a manually set number of peaks in order to derive new patterns or
> > waveforms.
> >
> > I'll explain with an example... let's say you took an LFO with a
> > rectangular or pulse waveform and wanted to trigger an envelope 
with
> > it but skip every 3rd pulse. You'd be able to set the module to
> > somehow derive an irregular waveform from the regular pulse of 
the
> > input... and this could be manually set for however many peaks 
you'd
> > like to "skip".
> >
> > .. and this could function with LFO rates or audio rates to 
process CV
> > or audio.
> >
> > I don't know how this would technically work, but I hope the idea
> > makes sense. I'd imagine you could use a couple modules to come 
close
> > to this idea but wouldn't it have to be a digital control in 
order to
> > exactly specify the number of "skips" and then how could the 
waveform
> > be smoothed? some type of slewing?
> >
> > hmmm.. would it be something like an envelope follower into a 
digital
> > device that reads the frequency and then applies a slew to the 
input

> > according to the manually set number of "skips"???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

Sorry, yet more random ideas, but would some (very) basic video 
processing modules be out of the question?

Although i'm not too fantastically hot on the subject of video 
processing, some kind of video mixing/filtering/switching/whatever 
modules might sell (or not, who knows). Its just interesting to see 
that no-one has ever developed a modular video system!



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> ok list,
> it is brainstorm time again!
> if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> module, just say it!
> i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> i am waiting...
> best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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videosizer

http://www.emsrehberg.de/VIDEOSIZER/videosizer.html

EMS video synthesizer (!)

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "bty205236" <andrew.maunder@...>
wrote:

>
> Sorry, yet more random ideas, but would some (very) basic video 
> processing modules be out of the question?
> 
> Although i'm not too fantastically hot on the subject of video 
> processing, some kind of video mixing/filtering/switching/whatever 
> modules might sell (or not, who knows). Its just interesting to see 
> that no-one has ever developed a modular video system!
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> >
> > ok list,
> > it is brainstorm time again!
> > if you have any crazy idea about a future exotic A100
> > module, just say it!
> > i'll gather all your ideas during the next two weeks
> > and out of them i'll create some new polls.
> > i am waiting...
> > best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > http://www.rubber.gr
> > Athens-Greece
> > 
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Here are some ideas:

1. looping multi-stage ADSR
2. somthing like the Buchla 296 programmable spectral processor
3. quad/triple parametric eq -possibly resonant
4. 16bit wave table module with multiple banks and CV selection of bank.

$.02

Matthew

> >
> > Sorry, yet more random ideas, but would some (very) basic video 
> > processing modules be out of the question?
> > 
> > Although i'm not too fantastically hot on the subject of video 
> > processing, some kind of video mixing/filtering/switching/whatever 
> > modules might sell (or not, who knows). Its just interesting to see 
> > that no-one has ever developed a modular video system!
> > 

I once saw a for modular voltage controlled one back in the mid 80s that was built in the 
70s, individulal modules and patchcords. I didn't see it in operation though. I'm trying to 
remember the name.  Also for what it's worth MFB (Fricke) the drum machine and synth 
maker had something very simple for video processing shown as Musik Messe. 

The big problem though is unlike audio so much of a video signal has to stay unprocessed 
to just display an image. And the "good" part that contains the image is herterodyned 
together. You can't process the entire raw video signal and get much that isn't instantly 
totally scrambled or no image at all. For the most part just end up being able to modulate 
the kind of parameters you have on a TV, you know the hue, brightness, saturation after 
you've built special equipment to do it. If you've seen a 70s or 80s TV mixer and imagine 
voltage control on it's parameters then that's the range of voltage control processing that 
one can expect (wipes, luma key, etc.). Note how much the EMS Rehberg device resembles 
a video mixer.

 Some of the more radical early video art tended to be voltage control of electromagnets 
around a TV display rather than processing the signal itself. That let you bend the picture 
around. Of course that meant you had to re-phoptograph your monitor if you wanted to 
record the results. If you think about it, while there are a few artists still doing this sort of 
thing sometimes there are a few too many limitations that keep something from really 
catching on. (you spend a lot of time and money to get limited results)

Arguably to get into really synthesizing a picture you need a frame buffer, in other words 
to convert the whole image into a raster and then process a frame as a whole bitmap 
frames one at a time rather than linearly like audio.

hello dieter, florian, ingo and the whole list!
so, should i create a poll about a "scale programmer"
module(like the one mentioned below)? or this function
will be implemented into the TKS?
Best regards,
Bakis.


--- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:

> scale programmer
> 
> moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> be tuned 
> individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> tuning system you 
> wanted.
> 
> I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> CV wouldn't you 
> have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping". 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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hello,
so, about the first idea: the a143-1 and a143-2 can do
looping and multistage envelopes, right? should i
creaste such a poll then?
about idea 2:what can the buchla 296 can do that is
special?
idea 3: there is already a poll about something like
this, right?
idea 4: so, should i create a poll about a wavetable
osc module like this dieter?(with multiple banks and
vc selection of bank?)
best regards,
Bakis.


--- mritenburg <mritenburg@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here are some ideas:
> 
> 1. looping multi-stage ADSR
> 2. somthing like the Buchla 296 programmable
> spectral processor
> 3. quad/triple parametric eq -possibly resonant
> 4. 16bit wave table module with multiple banks and
> CV selection of bank.
> 
> $.02
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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So as I understand it from the post below, 
a scale programmer could be made according to a cv in, a series of 12
pots (for re-tuning) of each note and a CV out ?

Nice concept !

I also still like the concept of a quantizer with a cv in, 12 on/off
switches for each note and a cv out, but this would pronbably also be
possible with the concept above with more flexibility ?

a programmable scale programmer could be based on one of these
concepts with memory locations that could be switched according to VC
(like the A-107)

There seem to be quite a lot of possibilities, maybe too much to
include all in a poll ?

Best regards
Joost

 



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
<synth_freak_2000@...> wrote:

>
> hello dieter, florian, ingo and the whole list!
> so, should i create a poll about a "scale programmer"
> module(like the one mentioned below)? or this function
> will be implemented into the TKS?
> Best regards,
> Bakis.
> 
> 
> --- untiedstates <untiedstates@...> wrote:
> 
> > scale programmer
> > 
> > moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> > be tuned 
> > individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> > tuning system you 
> > wanted.
> > 
> > I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> > CV wouldn't you 
> > have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping". 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber.gr
> Athens-Greece
> 
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Bakis,

yes a poll concerning a wavetable module would be interesting (especially as
we have such a prototype already available, it was made about 10 years ago
before the A-112 was developed - i.e. before this group was "born"). But
only 8 bit and I'm not sure if a 16 bit wavetable makes sense. You would
need wavetables with 65536 instead of 256 in length!

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juni 2006 19:17
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?
>
>
> hello,
> so, about the first idea: the a143-1 and a143-2 can do
> looping and multistage envelopes, right? should i
> creaste such a poll then?
> about idea 2:what can the buchla 296 can do that is
> special?
> idea 3: there is already a poll about something like
> this, right?
> idea 4: so, should i create a poll about a wavetable
> osc module like this dieter?(with multiple banks and
> vc selection of bank?)
> best regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
> --- mritenburg <mritenburg@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Here are some ideas:
> >
> > 1. looping multi-stage ADSR
> > 2. somthing like the Buchla 296 programmable
> > spectral processor
> > 3. quad/triple parametric eq -possibly resonant
> > 4. 16bit wave table module with multiple banks and
> > CV selection of bank.
> >
> > $.02
> >
> > Matthew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber.gr
> Athens-Greece
>
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>
>
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>
>
>
>
>

This function will be probably available in the planned keyboard/sequencer
controller, i.e. a separate potentiometer for each step/position with the
step/position controlled by the keyboard connected to the controller
(expansion for the planned A-100 keyboards).

Best wishes
Dieter Doepfer

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com]Im Auftrag von Bakis Sirros
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. Juni 2006 19:00
> An: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Betreff: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: any more ideas for exotic future A100
> modules?
>
>
> hello dieter, florian, ingo and the whole list!
> so, should i create a poll about a "scale programmer"
> module(like the one mentioned below)? or this function
> will be implemented into the TKS?
> Best regards,
> Bakis.
>
>
> --- untiedstates <untiedstates@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > scale programmer
> >
> > moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> > be tuned
> > individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> > tuning system you
> > wanted.
> >
> > I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> > CV wouldn't you
> > have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping".
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> http://www.rubber.gr
> Athens-Greece
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
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>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

ooooo.. what about an octave switch in addition to each of the 12 CV
tuners?

that way you could not only create interesting interval relationships,
but also switch individual notes to different octaves - especially
good for playing a sequence and changing an interval relationship from
"closed" to "open".

to really make it precise (and fun): 

"rough" CV tuning control
fine tuning
octave switch

... interface with a controller/keyboard/sequencer of choice.

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "levka0" <levka@...> wrote:

>
> So as I understand it from the post below, 
> a scale programmer could be made according to a cv in, a series of 12
> pots (for re-tuning) of each note and a CV out ?
> 
> Nice concept !
> 
> I also still like the concept of a quantizer with a cv in, 12 on/off
> switches for each note and a cv out, but this would pronbably also be
> possible with the concept above with more flexibility ?
> 
> a programmable scale programmer could be based on one of these
> concepts with memory locations that could be switched according to VC
> (like the A-107)
> 
> There seem to be quite a lot of possibilities, maybe too much to
> include all in a poll ?
> 
> Best regards
> Joost
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@> wrote:
> >
> > hello dieter, florian, ingo and the whole list!
> > so, should i create a poll about a "scale programmer"
> > module(like the one mentioned below)? or this function
> > will be implemented into the TKS?
> > Best regards,
> > Bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- untiedstates <untiedstates@> wrote:
> > 
> > > scale programmer
> > > 
> > > moog had one of these.. each key of a keyboard could
> > > be tuned 
> > > individually with a pot in order to achieve whatever
> > > tuning system you 
> > > wanted.
> > > 
> > > I know you could just use MIDI, etc.. but then with
> > > CV wouldn't you 
> > > have more precise tuning control? - no "stepping". 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > Bakis Sirros - Parallel Worlds
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner
> > http://www.parallel-worlds-music.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/parallelworldsmusic
> > http://www.shimarecords.co.uk
> > http://www.rubber.gr
> > Athens-Greece
> > 
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a "pure" wavetable module would be very tasty indeed!


On 28 jun 2006, at 10.26, Dieter Doepfer wrote:

> Bakis,
>
> yes a poll concerning a wavetable module would be interesting  
> (especially as
> we have such a prototype already available, it was made about 10  
> years ago
> before the A-112 was developed - i.e. before this group was  
> "born"). But
> only 8 bit and I'm not sure if a 16 bit wavetable makes sense. You  
> would
> need wavetables with 65536 instead of 256 in length!
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer







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i would just love a Ppg wavetable osc and i'm amazed no ones selling one or is that what the blacet and others can do with the right rom ? i would love a bit of ' ppg 'in my modular.

erase <list@erasemusic.com> wrote:          a "pure" wavetable module would be very tasty indeed!

On 28 jun 2006, at 10.26, Dieter Doepfer wrote:

> Bakis,
>
> yes a poll concerning a wavetable module would be interesting 
> (especially as
> we have such a prototype already available, it was made about 10 
> years ago
> before the A-112 was developed - i.e. before this group was 
> "born"). But
> only 8 bit and I'm not sure if a 16 bit wavetable makes sense. You 
> would
> need wavetables with 65536 instead of 256 in length!
>
> Best wishes
> Dieter Doepfer

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Hi

> i would just love a Ppg wavetable osc and i'm amazed no ones selling one or is that what the blacet and others can do with the right rom ? 
> i would love a bit of ' ppg 'in my modular.

I could imagine, that there are some kind of copyrights on the original 
PPG wavetables.


Florian

hello matthew,
please, if you want that i make a poll about a module
in the style of buchla's 296 spectral processor that
you mentioned, explain to us what are the special
functions of this module.
thank you,
best regards,
Bakis.



--- mritenburg <mritenburg@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Here are some ideas:
> 
> 1. looping multi-stage ADSR
> 2. somthing like the Buchla 296 programmable
> spectral processor
> 3. quad/triple parametric eq -possibly resonant
> 4. 16bit wave table module with multiple banks and
> CV selection of bank.
> 
> $.02
> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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> Does anyone think this is a useful module?
> 
> Regards, Florian
>
It definately is, Regards, Ingo

Hi,

by occasion I ran over my sketch for a module idea, which i put in May 
to the file section, while we were discussing the thread "any more ideas 
for exotic future A100 modules" 
(http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/Entwurf-Crossfader.jpg).

Somehow we never started a poll on this.
So let me suggest this very simple module once again (most text is taken 
from my mail from 08-May-2006):

Basically the idea for this module comes from building modular patches 
from the scratch while a live performance. You will want to add more and 
more modules to the audio signal path. If you have a system with 
audiomixers and multiples on each module (e.g. the  Roland 100m), this 
is no problem. With the A100 this requires everytime to break up the 
signal path, which is close to "stop your musical performance". Similar 
is valid for adding additional control voltages to a module, which 
provides only one adjustable CV input.

The idea of my module is to extend modules like all the VCFs or similar 
  (VC-Phasers, BBDs, Waveshapers...) with additional audio inputs, 
additional CV-inputs and additional outputs. Also I thought, that it is 
not so easy to crossfade from one source to another with two normal 
mixer inputs - a real crossfader is much better.

Technically it is a kind of 3-1-2 mixer. Three inputs can be level 
controlled and switched individually to two busses. The crossfader poti 
is fix wired to one bus in my sketch, but an additional switch for 
routing it also should be possible. If you hardwire the summing points 
of the mixers to the corresponding main module you even do not need any 
active elements or powersupply for this module.


Does anyone think this is a useful module?

Regards, Florian

very usefull indeed, but I would build this outside
of the rack. Something like a DJ-mixer in front of your rack.
And then three or four little mixers with crossfader, and don't forget   
the inverters ( with a switch )

You can build this yourself, and maybe you need some buffer amps or  
adders, I don't
know, I'm not an electronic.

good luck

On Oct 16, 2006, at 15:22, Florian Anwander wrote:

> Hi,
>
> by occasion I ran over my sketch for a module idea, which i put in May
> to the file section, while we were discussing the thread "any more  
> ideas
> for exotic future A100 modules"
> (http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/Entwurf- 
> Crossfader.jpg).
>
> Somehow we never started a poll on this.
> So let me suggest this very simple module once again (most text is  
> taken
> from my mail from 08-May-2006):
>
> Basically the idea for this module comes from building modular patches
> from the scratch while a live performance. You will want to add more  
> and
> more modules to the audio signal path. If you have a system with
> audiomixers and multiples on each module (e.g. the  Roland 100m), this
> is no problem. With the A100 this requires everytime to break up the
> signal path, which is close to "stop your musical performance". Similar
> is valid for adding additional control voltages to a module, which
> provides only one adjustable CV input.
>
> The idea of my module is to extend modules like all the VCFs or similar
>   (VC-Phasers, BBDs, Waveshapers...) with additional audio inputs,
> additional CV-inputs and additional outputs. Also I thought, that it is
> not so easy to crossfade from one source to another with two normal
> mixer inputs - a real crossfader is much better.
>
> Technically it is a kind of 3-1-2 mixer. Three inputs can be level
> controlled and switched individually to two busses. The crossfader poti
> is fix wired to one bus in my sketch, but an additional switch for
> routing it also should be possible. If you hardwire the summing points
> of the mixers to the corresponding main module you even do not need any
> active elements or powersupply for this module.
>
>
> Does anyone think this is a useful module?
>
> Regards, Florian

hello florian,

yes, this would be a cool module.

best wishes

ingo


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Florian Anwander 
<Florian.Anwander@...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> 
> by occasion I ran over my sketch for a module idea, which i put in 
May 
> to the file section, while we were discussing the thread "any more 
ideas 
> for exotic future A100 modules" 
> (http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/files/Entwurf-
Crossfader.jpg).
> 
> Somehow we never started a poll on this.
> So let me suggest this very simple module once again (most text is 
taken 
> from my mail from 08-May-2006):
> 
> Basically the idea for this module comes from building modular 
patches 
> from the scratch while a live performance. You will want to add 
more and 
> more modules to the audio signal path. If you have a system with 
> audiomixers and multiples on each module (e.g. the  Roland 100m), 
this 
> is no problem. With the A100 this requires everytime to break up 
the 
> signal path, which is close to "stop your musical performance". 
Similar 
> is valid for adding additional control voltages to a module, which 
> provides only one adjustable CV input.
> 
> The idea of my module is to extend modules like all the VCFs or 
similar 
>   (VC-Phasers, BBDs, Waveshapers...) with additional audio inputs, 
> additional CV-inputs and additional outputs. Also I thought, that 
it is 
> not so easy to crossfade from one source to another with two normal 
> mixer inputs - a real crossfader is much better.
> 
> Technically it is a kind of 3-1-2 mixer. Three inputs can be level 
> controlled and switched individually to two busses. The crossfader 
poti 
> is fix wired to one bus in my sketch, but an additional switch for 
> routing it also should be possible. If you hardwire the summing 
points 
> of the mixers to the corresponding main module you even do not need 
any 

> active elements or powersupply for this module.
> 
> 
> Does anyone think this is a useful module?
> 
> Regards, Florian
>

Hi Guido

> very usefull indeed, but I would build this outside
> of the rack. 
I think, it would become very inconvenient. Imagine a very simple audio 
chain with VCO-VCF-VCA-VCBBD. This would require three external 
crossfaders with at least nine cables to the system. Not to speak, that 
there is no additional mixerinput wired.

It might make sense to use VCAs for the crossfader, and external faders, 
which deliver CV. But this would require active electronics in the 
module. Up to now, this is a completeley passive module which should be 
very cheap.

Florian

Something like a DJ-mixer in front of your rack.

> And then three or four little mixers with crossfader, and don't forget   
> the inverters ( with a switch )
> 
> You can build this yourself, and maybe you need some buffer amps or  
> adders, I don't
> know, I'm not an electronic.
> 
> good luck

I just thought, in your example vco-vcf-vca-

3 audio signals from vco, crossfade to vcf or vca
3 cv from anywhere, crossfade to vcf or vca

and then you want inverter-switches, lag-time ?

cables you have to run anyway, (?)

Dynamic mixing ( LIVE! ) in a rack ? I can't, and I like diy-boxes,
good luck,
guido


On Oct 17, 2006, at 9:25, Florian Anwander wrote:

> Hi Guido
>
>  > very usefull indeed, but I would build this outside
>  > of the rack.
>  I think, it would become very inconvenient. Imagine a very simple 
> audio
>  chain with VCO-VCF-VCA-VCBBD. This would require three external
>  crossfaders with at least nine cables to the system. Not to speak, 
> that
>  there is no additional mixerinput wired.
>
>  It might make sense to use VCAs for the crossfader, and external 
> faders,
>  which deliver CV. But this would require active electronics in the
>  module. Up to now, this is a completeley passive module which should 
> be
>  very cheap.
>
>  Florian
>
>  Something like a DJ-mixer in front of your rack.
>  > And then three or four little mixers with crossfader, and don't 
> forget
>  > the inverters ( with a switch )
>  >
>  > You can build this yourself, and maybe you need some buffer amps or
>  > adders, I don't
>  > know, I'm not an electronic.
>  >
>  > good luck
>
>  
>   

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Hi Guido de zeeuw wrote:

> I just thought, in your example vco-vcf-vca-
> 
> 3 audio signals from vco, crossfade to vcf or vca
> 3 cv from anywhere, crossfade to vcf or vca
> 
> and then you want inverter-switches, lag-time ?
> 
> cables you have to run anyway, (?)
> 
> Dynamic mixing ( LIVE! ) in a rack ? I can't, and I like diy-boxes,
Hmmm,.... Either you misundertood the concept of my modul or I 
misunderstand your english.

I mean originally there are
VCO -> 12db-VCF -> VCA -> BBD


Then you insert the addon/Xfade modules and add a 24DB VCF parallel to 
the 12dB.

VCO -> X -> 12db-VCF -> X -> VCA -> X -> BBD
          \  24db-VCF  /

Now you can crossfade over to the 24db-VCF and remove the 12dB-VCF. The 
VCF has to be controlled by some other CVs than the 12dB Filter.

The same is valid for changing the VCO or inserting something between 
VCA and BBD.


Florian

blindplate + crossfader

guido



On Oct 17, 2006, at 15:38, Florian Anwander wrote:

> Hi Guido de zeeuw wrote:
>
>  > I just thought, in your example vco-vcf-vca-
>  >
>  > 3 audio signals from vco, crossfade to vcf or vca
>  > 3 cv from anywhere, crossfade to vcf or vca
>  >
>  > and then you want inverter-switches, lag-time ?
>  >
>  > cables you have to run anyway, (?)
>  >
>  > Dynamic mixing ( LIVE! ) in a rack ? I can't, and I like diy-boxes,
>  Hmmm,.... Either you misundertood the concept of my modul or I
>  misunderstand your english.
>
>  I mean originally there are
>  VCO -> 12db-VCF -> VCA -> BBD
>
>  Then you insert the addon/Xfade modules and add a 24DB VCF parallel to
>  the 12dB.
>
>  VCO -> X -> 12db-VCF -> X -> VCA -> X -> BBD
>  \ 24db-VCF /
>
>  Now you can crossfade over to the 24db-VCF and remove the 12dB-VCF. 
> The
>  VCF has to be controlled by some other CVs than the 12dB Filter.
>
>  The same is valid for changing the VCO or inserting something between
>  VCA and BBD.
>
>  Florian
>  
>   

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