Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by Harald Feldmann
Sounds like a Series III MFX2. Mouse included. > Perhaps a super sampler with, 100kHz (or more), disk streaming, analog > filters, modern Mac environment? > > Tobias
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Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by krec
You want the Fairlight sound... buy a Fairlight... Le Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:51:59 +0200, martythevampire a écrit: > Hi Everyone, really interesting post. > > David has almost got it, this is exactly what I've thought for most of > the vst's - its not only copying the internal sound
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by Tobias Enhus
This is a very interesting idea. A concept I've toyed with quite a bit, although I'm trying to emulate the Synclavier sound. What it all comes down to is cost. To do a a VST style emulation is fairly easy and straightforward, although not ever good enough sonically. However a har
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by Tobias Enhus
This is a very interesting idea. A concept I've toyed with quite a bit, although I'm trying to emulate the Synclavier sound. What it all comes down to is cost. To do a a VST style emulation is fairly easy and straightforward, although not ever good enough sonically. However a har
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by dvdborn
--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, krec wrote: > > You want the Fairlight sound... buy a Fairlight... I have one (IIx). But it's not going to last forever. The demand is also greater than what's on the market available. So an emulator would certainly benefit current owners sin
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by martythevampire
Hi Everyone, really interesting post. David has almost got it, this is exactly what I've thought for most of the vst's - its not only copying the internal sound generator hardware but certainly for the digital synths, its the D/A converters that give them a huge part their sound.
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-24 by dvdborn
There is also another possibility to emulate the sound of the IIx more faithfully. If someone would build a firewire/USB audio interface with 8 8 bit D/A-channels that use a variable sample clock to transpose the sample of each channel and has an analogue filter for each channel,
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by M.J.B.
>The MiniMoog sits beside my `real' Moog and complements it very well. Each makes sounds the other doesn't really manage. Curious, what "real" moog do you have to compare? I'll I'm saying is anyone can make a Fairlight VST right now...But would it come close to the "it" of the or
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by fishy1002001
--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "M.J.B." wrote: > > Curious, what "real" moog do you have to compare? Voyager (Performer Edition).
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by fishy1002001
--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "M.J.B." wrote: > So, to recreate the Fairlight, would be in my mind DISAPPOINTING, just like the Jupiter 8v, minimoogv, whatever VST program out there, that sounds like software synths, with buzzy noises mostly for today's' plastic sounding
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by krec
I think that it's a waste to use only the factory sounds ! You can create some amazing sounds when you sample with the IIx... Le Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:02:24 +0200, Laurent/LIFELIKE a écrit: > What makes the fairlight interesting is the factory sounds and the > nice sequencer, > for
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by M.J.B.
This is exactly my point. Emulating vintage digital with VST is effectively done, such as FM-7 etc. Though some of the grit is lost in VST's not having the noisy DA converters that contributed to some of the original charm. However, when you take a VST today and you try to cross
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by NormLeete@aol.com
Dear All, This is a serious reply - honest. The nearest I have ever come to successfully recreate the sound of my IIx CMI was when we (for a bit of a laugh) created a set of Mellotron tapes, each with 8 seconds of each note. The resulting 35 tapes were threaded into a frame and t
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Harald Feldmann
Hi Rob, No I do not take it as a personal attack and you may have a point regarding the 808s etc. Given the interest for the real thing, there obviously still is a market for them. Regards, Harald. > Harald, > > > > Without wanting to be argumentative, and this is in no way a per
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Rob Puricelli
Harald, Without wanting to be argumentative, and this is in no way a personal attack, if we are completely honest, the Fairlight “market” was about 30 years ago. There are so few of these machines out there today that to simply knock aside the concept of a software emulation smac
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Laurent Lemaire
Hi Laurent. I totally agree with you ! Virtual Synths should be considered as proper instruments and not a realistic copy of the original. Synths have the same issue 20 or 30 years ago, trying to simulate piano, brass and string sounds. The Korg M1 piano sound was great when rele
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Laurent/LIFELIKE
What makes the fairlight interesting is the factory sounds and the nice sequencer, for a modern use, it is not possible to integrate that in your mixes, you can find hardware that sound as weird for 200$, per exemple, the CASIO FZ-1, its the same kind of hardware, mono output etc
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Andrew
----- Original Message ----- From: Harald Feldmann > Recreating a Fairlight sound completely in software ruins the market for a > unit. Keep that in mind. Good point, but I'm not sure it's always the case. There are always people who want the original instrument for the satisfact
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Laurent Lemaire
Hello Harald, I am not afraid at all about this issue. I really love software emulators of synths, because people and studio who used real machines in the past, sold them to use emulators instead. Giving us the chance to buy one. But by the time they realized the sound is not the
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Al Curatolo
I respectfully disagree. Despite there being numerous software Prophet 5 emulations P5 values are at an all time high. Same goes for Jupiter 8's, Minimoogs and Arp 2600's. People will always lust for the real thing, an emulator might actually stir up interest in real Fairlights a
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by dvdborn
Suppose that someone would like to release a Fairlight IIx emulator. Can he/they include the original IIx library? Does anybody own the rights to that library or are they public domain? Or is it more a question of: if you sample them they're recordings from an instrument (IIx) an
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Harald Feldmann
Recreating a Fairlight sound completely in software ruins the market for a unit. Keep that in mind. Regards, Harald.
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by kyoji_sama
This pretty much hit the nail on the head. I own Jupiter 8V...and I'm not satisfied, because most of the sounds made are done with low frequencies. I still want a Jupiter 8 (or possibly a Jupiter 6...they both produce the same sounds.) The only vsts that impress me are FM7 and OP
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Phil A
Are there any technical descriptions of how the low level sample rates are generated? Phil To: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com From: peter.vogel@vogelfamily.net Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 09:19:38 +1000 Subject: RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight As well as the tracking f
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-23 by Tomás
Bjorn, Does the IR facility in Kontakt also require 10 second files? That seems the best option to me, because you could load an impulse for each zone, coresponding to the playback of the sweep tone on each key key of the CMI. You'd probably have to do this for all available samp
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-22 by Peter Vogel
As well as the tracking filter VCFs, sampling noise and VCA envelope generators, the Fairlight's curious sound came from the use of rate multipliers to generate the variable sample rate. These approximate the required frequency by skipping occasional clocks, with the result that
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-22 by M.J.B.
In theory, this is a wonderful idea and with all digital synths, such as the Yamaha DX-7 being recreated in the VST format, it is something that can be done well. However, as we all know, the Fairlight was almost as important as an analog machine as a digital one. The ways the so
RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-22 by Rob Puricelli
As ever, David, I have followed your Fairlight tales on your blog, much as I did with your EIII :o) I already downloaded the Kontakt samples you made. I hadn't even considered the use of IR's. Good thinking ! I just wonder how difficult it would be to model the Fairlight's archit
Re: Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-22 by dvdborn
Hi, I'm with you. I'm also for a quest to recreate the Series IIx sound. Here's my first attempt using multi samples, which turned out quite good: http://dvdborn.blogspot.com/2008/06/sampling-sampler-about-10-years-ago.html This, of course, won't let you create new samples with '
Recreating the Fairlight
2008-06-21 by lovesign50
Anyone that knows me knows that I have an unhealthy obsession with the Fairlight CMI. It started back in the early 80's and is still as rampant as it was back then. One day I really do hope to own at least a IIx or a III. However, until that elusive lottery win comes along, or a
Some Fairlight IIx stuff
2008-06-14 by dvdborn
Perhaps this might interest someone. Recently I've post some stuff on my blog about the IIx. This post contains some recorded demo's from a floppy that came with the IIx: http://dvdborn.blogspot.com/2008/05/first-test-fairlight-series-iix-demos.html In this post I sample a sound
Re: Coldplay
2008-06-12 by Tomás
--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "bty496052" wrote: > when chris martin and kanye West had a single out it was all written on the series III at Abbey > Road studio 2. A very poor piece of song craft IMHO, although it is very catchy in an incredibly annoying way. As for the i
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Coldplay
2008-06-10 by Jean-Bernard EMOND
Harald Feldmann a écrit : > > > Hi Colin, > > Do you still have a series III left ? Good deal > Now coldplay can say this was Colin's machine ! ;-) > > Cheers ! > Harald ha ha... :P
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Coldplay
2008-06-09 by Harald Feldmann
Hi Colin, Do you still have a series III left ? Good deal Now coldplay can say this was Colin's machine ! ;-) Cheers ! Harald > Hi guys sorry i havent been on in a long time but its work work work. As > many of members > here are aware, that i sold my series III to coldplay. I go
Coldplay
2008-06-09 by bty496052
Hi guys sorry i havent been on in a long time but its work work work. As many of members here are aware, that i sold my series III to coldplay. I got my advanced copy of their new Album from their label last week and have done nothing but listen to it. Its amazing and is crammed
Re: Some help needed - light pen connector on monitor
2008-06-06 by dvdborn
Hi Harald, I tested the connections on the monitor and they're still working fine. I haven't gotten a chance yet to test the wires of the lightpen internally. I still need to find a way to open the light pen without breaking it. Regards, David --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Re: Some help needed - light pen connector on monitor
2008-06-06 by Harald Feldmann
Hi David, Have you tested the leads and made sure no wire is broken ? Regards, Harald > Thanks to everybody that responded and gave me useful information. > Unfortunately I have to realize that my light pen isn't working anymore. > > So, no page 4 or page 6 joy for me. > > Best,
Re: Some help needed - light pen connector on monitor
2008-06-05 by dvdborn
Thanks to everybody that responded and gave me useful information. Unfortunately I have to realize that my light pen isn't working anymore. So, no page 4 or page 6 joy for me. Best, David http://dvdborn.blogspot.com --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, "tootith" wrote: > > Hi Da
Re: Some help needed - light pen connector on monitor
2008-06-04 by tootith
Hi David, Peter Wielk helped me out with this exact same issue several years ago. I dug through my emails and found this: "Regarding the light pen, as an overview, the pen requires 5 volts from the monitor power supply for its internal electronics, then there are two logic signal
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] New Fairlight archival video
2008-06-04 by krec
Thank you very much ! Recognize Peter Wielk with the voice tracker ;) Eric. Le Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:34:02 +0200, a écrit: > I have uploaded a promo video which was probably never released, it > includes > interviews about Fairlight with Joni Mitchell, Todd Rundgren and Tom > Baile
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] New Fairlight archival video
2008-06-04 by Peter Connelly
Superb!!!! :D On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 10:34 PM, peter.vogel@vogelfamily.net > wrote: I have uploaded a promo video which was probably never released, it includes interviews about Fairlight with Joni Mitchell, Todd Rundgren and Tom Bailey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-SNbR304HA
New Fairlight archival video
2008-06-03 by peter.vogel@vogelfamily.net
I have uploaded a promo video which was probably never released, it includes interviews about Fairlight with Joni Mitchell, Todd Rundgren and Tom Bailey. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-SNbR304HA Cheers, Peter Vogel, Creative Technologist Vogel Ross Pty Ltd Ph: (+61 2) 4751 8735
Some help needed - light pen connector on monitor
2008-06-03 by dvdborn
I'm still trying to find out how I need to connect my light pen back to the monitor on a IIx. If someone could tell me which voltages they measure on the connections points of the light pen connector on the monitor, I can figure out how to connect them. Would anyone be so kind to
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Analogue interface
2008-06-03 by john blackford
Tim, please give me a call! 646-709-4258 -John Blackford
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Fairlight CMI Series 3 for sell on eBay.
2008-06-02 by Roland
At 21:44 Uhr +0200 01.06.2008, Laurent LEMAIRE wrote: >It sold at 2.888,78 Euros ... Not bad !!! > > >-> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200226045967 Due to my humble bid (being second bidder), otherwise it would have sold for a mere 2570 Euro :-) Cheers Roland
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Fairlight CMI Series 3 for sell on eBay.
2008-06-01 by krec
At this price, it's given'.... ! Le Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:44:41 +0200, Laurent LEMAIRE a écrit: > > It sold at 2.888,78 Euros ... Not bad !!! > > > -> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200226045967 > > > -- Utilisant le client e-mail révolutionnaire d'Opera : http:/
Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Fairlight CMI Series 3 for sell on eBay.
2008-06-01 by Laurent LEMAIRE
It sold at 2.888,78 Euros ... Not bad !!! -> http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200226045967
Tip: solution for unreadable disks on IIx
2008-06-01 by dvdborn
I have several floppy disks that all give a read error upon inserting them in page 2. This means that their directory can't be read and subsequently can't be shown on screen. I thought that these disks were unusable due to their old age. Until I tried the following: I typed the l
Lightpen wiring on IIx
2008-06-01 by dvdborn
Can anybody tell me how to connect the lightpen to the monitor on a IIx when they both haven't got a connector anymore? The monitor has 4 cables coming out of it with the colours: black, white, grey and purple. The lightpen (type: LP-730) has the following cables: black, white, r
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