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2004-03-31 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the SergeModular group: Wishlist: modules you'd like to have, or have more of.. o PCO/NTO o TKB o DSG/DTG o SSG o VCFQ o VCFS o VCF2 o MIX/CMX/MAX o FRS/X o SEQ o BLOG o RS o PROC/ACPR o COMP/NCOM/STR o ASR o VCM o RING o TWS
2004-03-31 by John P
Too bad I can't see it when you spray your coffee all over the kitchen table. Peter Grenader wrote: >Better topic: Is Peter Grenader a dolt, or what? > >Guys/gals - I'm baaaAAAaack and rested. Hopefully, I'll not be stepping on >my extremities with mis-information in the future.
2004-03-31 by Peter Grenader
Hey- would ya look at that - So far.. the poll results are verifying my dear departed mother's suspicions - i AM a dolt. And so ya know, in accordance with the good book's sage words of 'know thyself', i did in fact vote yes. love you ugys, P SergeModular@yahoogroups.com wrote: >
2004-03-31 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the SergeModular group: Is Peter Grenader a dolt, or what? o Yes o No o Dangerously so o "Mostly harmless" o Awww, give the guy a break o Peter who? To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/
2004-03-31 by Peter Grenader
Better topic: Is Peter Grenader a dolt, or what? Guys/gals - I'm baaaAAAaack and rested. Hopefully, I'll not be stepping on my extremities with mis-information in the future. Sorry about yesterday. Despite what comes out of my instruments indicating otherwise, I'm not a drug/booz
2004-03-31 by SergeModular@yahoogroups.com
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the SergeModular group: Have a Serge? Fave Modules? o PCO/NTO o DSG/DTG o SSG o TKB o SEQ o VCFS o VCFQ o WAD o FRS/X o BLOG o ASR o VC MIXER o VCM o TWS o RS o RING o QUO o QUAN o PROC o Other To vote, please visit the follo
2004-03-31 by cuari7
Petey wrote: > She's right - i am legally stoned still from the laughing gas Is that what you kids call it now..? ;-P On a happy, warm, fuzzy note: Yeay!!! One day appart, I was visited by the synth fairy twice (aka UPS dude): a Blue Voice from Rob, and a brand-new panel from Rex
2004-03-30 by Peter Grenader
She's right - i am legally stoned still from the laughing gas or whatever the shit they put in me and I'm going to bed. Forget everything I've said. ahsjs ls slkd s se0e ...... Cynthia wrote: > Um, I'm afraid that Peter just posted another bit of misinformation > when he said, >
2004-03-30 by Cynthia
Um, I'm afraid that Peter just posted another bit of misinformation when he said, "but, there may be CV present on the Modcan which will too hot for the Serge." This is not true either! Modcan Signal Levels are all fully compatible and work beautifully with Serge and Cynthia modu
2004-03-30 by Peter Grenader
Oh shit (sorry) - she's right - this is soooo stupid of me. I was meaning Cynthia to Modcan when I spoke about the PSU computability, and then really messed it up to mentioning the 6 volt regulator on the old Serge stuff. This what happens when you think after being put out getti
2004-03-30 by Cynthia
Hi There! 15 Volt Modcan and Cynthia modules Will NOT run off a Serge 12 Volt Power Supply. However, if you give the Modcan and Cynthia Modules their own proper +15 and -15 Volt power supply (such as a Cynthia Brand Medium or Major Power Supply) then... YES, then by all means the
2004-03-30 by Peter Grenader
Modcan format goods, to my knowledge, will sing perfectly with Serge. The power supply requirements are also identical, although Modcan does not require the +6 that some of the older Serge stuff needs. If your Serge PSU has the spare juice (reserve current capability), it'll work
2004-03-30 by synpro@aol.com
Has anyone successfully integrated any of the Modcan or Cynthia modules to work off a Serge power supply. I would like to get a couple and make a custom mini-panel. Thanks! -Andrew
2004-03-30 by john duval
Haven't forgotten this post.. i'll get back to you soon. I got married just after we exchanged mail and things have been alittle on the hectic side since then. Should be getting back to "normal" soon..whatever that is. Hahaha!!! Kind regards John DuVal --- jan-hinnerk.helms@... w
2004-03-30 by darkstr717
forget the MOTM adaptor panel..just order your MOTM modules as kits and retrofit for bananas..works great. JD
2004-03-29 by James R. Coplin
After a long absence, the Serge planner is back up! The version currently on the server is the old one but I'm actively in the code for the new version currently. I'm not promising any dates but I am back to working on it. So, if you want any new features, you better ask now beca
2004-03-28 by Peter Grenader
What I meant was the Serge's I've either owned or have recently put on a scope have a relatively low signal level (amplitude) of about 2.25 volts (5.5 volts RMS) - right about line level. Now - please remember all of these were over 20 years old and possibly this has changed sinc
2004-03-28 by kirkdegiorgio
LEFT TO RIGHT: CVI - NTO - PCO - NOI - MIX2 - ADSR - UAP (MIX2 being Dual Audio Mixer) KD > Kirk - > > Exactly what is on this panel (modules). I need to make sure I have all the > schematics. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > > kirkdegiorgio wrote: > > > Hehe - yeah I know it was a joke
2004-03-28 by John P
I read this before and don't quite get it. What do you mean exactly when you say ' low signal level' and 'hot' I thought they meant the same thing but not the way you use it here. The Serge signals start @ several volts p-p and that's what you see all the way thru. The only time
2004-03-28 by Peter Grenader
Kirk - Exactly what is on this panel (modules). I need to make sure I have all the schematics. Thanks, Peter kirkdegiorgio wrote: > Hehe - yeah I know it was a joke but Paul mailed that privately to me > so I was advertising on his behalf ;-) > > I love my MOTM - my only complain
2004-03-28 by Peter Grenader
Believe it or not, the shielding that the non-banana format provides is worth the hassle of mults. Serge gets around this somewhat by a comparatively low signal level. Problem is, you've got to run it hot to compensate for that. Problem is then - like anything else you run hot -
2004-03-28 by kirkdegiorgio
Hehe - yeah I know it was a joke but Paul mailed that privately to me so I was advertising on his behalf ;-) I love my MOTM - my only complaint is the build time... but Paul is always upfront about this so it just comes down to a straight 'can I wait that long?' choice... and so
2004-03-28 by cuari7
>>.. special mention to Paul Schreiber who offered > some tech advice and also gently reminded me that my comment 'every > synth I've ever owned has gone wrong' did not apply to my MOTM system > LOL... (FWIW Paul offers a back to base $5 repair on ANY faulty module and has > a wo
2004-03-28 by Chris Whitten
> for those interested in what the > faults turn out to be, I'll keep the group informed. It may turn out to be > helpful. Yeah, that would be interesting. Good luck.
2004-03-28 by kirkdegiorgio
> Nope. It was a brand-new panel. Paid only to ship it back to them. > What I liked most about the incident is that, although the defect > was not seen by them, they still listened to my concerns and went > ahead with the repair anyway. that's exactly the kind of service I was ex
2004-03-28 by cuari7
KD asks: > When you returned your panel did Rex ask you for an upfront > payment to cover the repair? > Nope. It was a brand-new panel. Paid only to ship it back to them. What I liked most about the incident is that, although the defect was not seen by them, they still listened t
2004-03-28 by Chris Whitten
> Seeing that no gear lasts forever, and you apparently depend on it, you > really do need a qualified tech, be willing to be without the gear for a > while, and be willing to pay. > Or am I overstaing the obvious? Nope. Bare in mind this was a relatively new panel. Maybe a year
2004-03-28 by John P
Hi Kirk, I understand that since this problem is intermittent makes it terribly frustrating to solve, for both you and any tech that might look at it. This is true for anything, synthesizers, cars, dishwashers.... That's why I offered some advice fwiw earlier. I also believe that
2004-03-28 by kirkdegiorgio
Cuari I pretty much agree with everything you've said - I even put in an order for my Hartland build panel knowing I had an intermittent problem with one of my Oakland panels. Why? Cos I love the product too - I had every faith that I was in good hands regarding my faulty panel.
2004-03-28 by kirkdegiorgio
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , John P wrote: > Rex cut Kirk off not on some whim, but rather after 3 years of > communications and other efforts that didn't go anywhere. > Tell me, how much time & money is he supposed to spend to support a unit > out of warranty? > Has any
2004-03-28 by cuari7
Tough situation. As a Serge owner (and lover) I feel compelled to give my twopence worth: We are all aware that Sound Transform Systems has undergone a significant downscaling over the last 2-3 years; Rex has always told us so. They went from a five? people outfit that would meet
2004-03-28 by Chris Whitten
>> Kirk writes what seems to me to be an extremely inoffensive letter >> asking for help. He's obviously already terrified of offending >> Rex, because he says over and over again that he doesn't want to >> offend him. Then Peter says that he would be justified in being >> angry.
2004-03-28 by Peter Grenader
Great letter, well said. My assersion of not blaming Rex was not meant as a backtrack, but only a clarification which comes after 2 years of my public dissatisfaction and frankly, because of that I don't blame Rex for his sarcasm yesterday - I'd do the same thing. But one must re
2004-03-28 by Chris Whitten
> Rex cut Kirk off not on some whim, but rather after 3 years of > communications and other efforts that didn't go anywhere. > Tell me, how much time & money is he supposed to spend to support a unit > out of warranty? John, You're talking like this was a weekly phone call. I hea
2004-03-28 by Peter Grenader
I was there for about a four to five month period after Serge had left the school Arts and was on Western Blvd in Hollywood after I graduated from Cal Arts. I did some work for Serge not related to that effort, but it was minimal (laminating faceplates and helping pulling kits mo
2004-03-28 by John P
Rex cut Kirk off not on some whim, but rather after 3 years of communications and other efforts that didn't go anywhere. Tell me, how much time & money is he supposed to spend to support a unit out of warranty? Has anybody had any dealings with Rex re service where he *didn't* go
2004-03-27 by khtippet
I really can't believe what I am reading in this group. Kirk writes what seems to me to be an extremely inoffensive letter asking for help. He's obviously already terrified of offending Rex, because he says over and over again that he doesn't want to offend him. Then Peter says t
2004-03-27 by Scott Stites
Just curious, Peter - were you among the original builders of the Serge when it was still a 'Synth for the People'? Cheers, Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Grenader" peter@... > To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: [S
2004-03-27 by Peter Grenader
Although STS does not distribute schematics to service people, there are plenty enough to go around through the standard channels. The system at Cal arts' had 24 serious problems across six panels involving 20 or so modules and there's wasn't one schematic I couldn't find, althou
2004-03-27 by Chris Whitten
Bill and other Serge members, One or two points on this that come to my mind. Wasn't there an issue with STS refusing to release schematics? I could be wrong here, but I always assumed from speaking to Rex that he advised strongly against having any technical work carried out by
2004-03-27 by Bill Sequeira
A couple of additional thoughts in terms of repair alternatives. Kevin Fortune is one of the most qualified (if not *the* most qualified) to service Serge panels. Then there is Kevin Lightner, very highly qualified as well. Seems to me that there are repair choices other than STS
2004-03-27 by kirkdegiorgio
Hi James > A couple of thoughts... > > I mean, there is a warrantee period but it isn't infinite. Things go wrong, > break, get weird, in anything. Why are we surprised it happens in our Serge? who is surprised? Every synth I've ever owned has gone wrong. Was somebody surprised?
2004-03-27 by James R. Coplin
A couple of thoughts... I mean, there is a warrantee period but it isn't infinite. Things go wrong, break, get weird, in anything. Why are we surprised it happens in our Serge? Also, not to throw rocks, but it does sound like you took a long time to getting around to bringing it
2004-03-27 by Peter Grenader
I don't blame Rex at all for saying what he did. While I take full responsibility for my comments, please remember they are my opinions and nothing more. Synth prices aren't regulated by the government and neither are the business practices of their manufacturers or the reaction
2004-03-27 by kirkdegiorgio
I can say for certain that *yes* it has done this before. I mentioned it to Rex whebn I listed the faults. But it hasn't done it for awhile - at least I haven't noticed it for a year or so. But it may well have been doing it more often cos this is the first time in a long while t
2004-03-27 by John P
Do you use the ADSR a lot? Are you sure it's being troublesome only now and not long before? kirkdegiorgio wrote: >OK - back to the matter in hand. > >Since the ADSR started sending out irregular voltages, the PCO is now >100% stable again. So it seems as if the modules are takin
2004-03-27 by kirkdegiorgio
OK - back to the matter in hand. Since the ADSR started sending out irregular voltages, the PCO is now 100% stable again. So it seems as if the modules are taking it in turn to malfunction. Any further thoughts? KD
2004-03-26 by kirkdegiorgio
> For your vote of confidence. and please let me explain this comment if I may. Now - can anybody tell me if they thought my post requesting help regarding my faulty Serge panel could in *any* way be construed as offensive to Rex? After the helpful replies from Peter and John I r
2004-03-26 by Peter Grenader
For your vote of confidence.
2004-03-26 by kirkdegiorgio
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , John P wrote: > I think you have a grounding problem going on in the neighborhood of the > NTO and PCO boards. > > Examples: problem with grounding wire that runs from board to board, a > solder blob/metal sliver making contact against the IN