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2004-06-08 by MAG

hi folks I' just started to design a P3 case. there will be a standard case and an extended. give me your statements! grz mag see the pics under: http://www.magdesign.ch/SeqForm/StandardSeqRack.jpg http://www.magdesign.ch/SeqForm/StandardSeqTableVers.jpg -------------------------

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-07 by Paul Nagle

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 20:08:15 +0100, "Colin f" wrote: >The question now is how to make this value accessible through the UI. I >was thinking of making FUNC+data adjust the tempo fine tune over a range >of 0 to 5 BPM, in 0.1 BPM steps, very much like the fine tempo control >on a TR8

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Re: OT: Tempo Issues with G-Major

2004-06-07 by philsmillie@yahoo.com

Hi Colin, I've been playing about with it all weekend and i've come to the conclusion that you're right about the timer resolution etc.. It seems it "counts" in milliseconds rather than bpm's leading to the discreprancies i've noted. Sad Innit??? regards, Phil > > Where are you s

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-06 by Colin f

> > Maybe the current tempo map could do with some tweaking though. > > What tempo ranges do people use ? > lowest i would ever use would be around 130, highest about 200. > grtz Chiel So the general consensus seems to be - we all use different tempos ! Anyway... in the firmware

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by scd

> If the pattern 5 plays at some point in the playlist, you can just > press > PLAY/EDIT and the track key from play mode while pattern 5 is playing. > You need to go into playlist edit to select the pattern for editing if > it is not the current pattern playing on the track. > R

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by Colin f

> EDITING an existing pattern 5 you HAVE to enter edit playlist, and > *then* press step 5? If the pattern 5 plays at some point in the playlist, you can just press PLAY/EDIT and the track key from play mode while pattern 5 is playing. You need to go into playlist edit to select

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] OT: Tempo Issues with G-Major

2004-06-06 by Colin f

> I've been on the forum for a while (i got my boards 'n > bits... no time to build!) and while we're on a tempo > tip i thought i'd throw my problem in, see if anyone > else has this or similar problems with TC Electronics > G-Major (although i'm told D-two works in the same > w

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Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-06 by ch.³l

> Maybe the current tempo map could do with some tweaking though. > What tempo ranges do people use ? lowest i would ever use would be around 130, highest about 200. grtz Chiel

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OT: Tempo Issues with G-Major

2004-06-06 by Phil Smillie

Greetings all... I've been on the forum for a while (i got my boards 'n bits... no time to build!) and while we're on a tempo tip i thought i'd throw my problem in, see if anyone else has this or similar problems with TC Electronics G-Major (although i'm told D-two works in the s

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Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by scd

>> HOW to create different patterns on the same track? >> I can not find it in the manual... > > When you have been editing a track and come to save, it automatically > saves to the same pattern. To save to a different pattern, hit a step > number and you'll see the pattern numbe

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by Paul Nagle

On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 09:51:59 +0200, scd wrote: >HOW to create different patterns on the same track? >I can not find it in the manual... When you have been editing a track and come to save, it automatically saves to the same pattern. To save to a different pattern, hit a step numbe

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by scd

> So, in a bank (or song as I would call it) you can have a maximum of 16 > different patterns playing with a maximum of 8 playlists (at the same > time [polyphonic] or chained [monophonic] or both). Is that correct? I addition to this: you can have a maximum of 8 (tracks) x 16 (

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by scd

To summarize and to see if I understand this well: 1. A pattern is a looping sequence of events, maximum 16. 2. A track is the road where the patterns are played, you have a maximum of 4, 8, or 16 patterns on one track and you have a maximum of 8 tracks simultaniously. 3. A playl

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Re: arp mode

2004-06-06 by scd

> There is a lot to grasp, and there are a number of things you can > achieve in different ways, so I can see how it might be confusing. > I'll really need to do the step-by-step tutorial thing, as the manual > doesn't quite show how it all fits together. > You'll get there thoug

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp record

2004-06-06 by Robert van der Kamp

On Sunday 06 June 2004 01:35, Colin f wrote: > I'd help if I could, but my Dutch doesn't extend beyond > 'Hollandse meisjes zijn mooi' and 'ik ben gelukkig' - two > handy phrases for a teenager on holiday on the Costa > Brava, but little use since... LOL!! :) - Robert

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by Colin f

> Colin, I am gonna read the manual *again*. As a matter of > fact I *did* > that today as well. Must admit that tracks, patterns, banks, > playlists > and parts are a bit confusing but I *thought* I understood it all... There is a lot to grasp, and there are a number of things y

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by scd

> I had a look at the dump file you sent me, and it seems like you're > confusing tracks and patterns. Bloody freaking #$%^&@%^$&#^&%$!@ Do I???? > In play mode, the step keys 1 to 8 show the mute status of the 8 > tracks. > Each of these tracks will have 4, 8 or 16 patterns depe

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by Colin f

Hi Boele, > OK. Well I just do not get it. One more time: > > 1. I start up the P3 Check. > 2. I initialise the bank. Check. > 3. I program 4 patterns: 1 in C, 2 in Dis, 3 in Bes, 4 in G. I had a look at the dump file you sent me, and it seems like you're confusing tracks and pat

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Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by scd

> I did only post it today ;-) Ah well, it says BETA also :-) > Remember the 'beta' version is always a work in progress. I let new > things stabilise for a while before making it a release version. OK. Well I just do not get it. One more time: 1. I start up the P3 2. I initialis

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by Colin f

> OUCH! *That* is what I missed, or better, failed doing: updating to > 3.959. Maybe that solves the other problem too? I did only post it today ;-) Remember the 'beta' version is always a work in progress. I let new things stabilise for a while before making it a release version

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by scd

Op 5-jun-04 om 20:11 heeft colinfraser_com het volgende geschreven: >> Discovered a small bug I think though. >> When entering notes while the P3 is not running (in arp-mode with > rong >> set to off), the first note recorded is step 16 instead of 1 :-))) > > That behaviour was i

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Playlist

2004-06-05 by scd

Another question/problem. Assume I have one pattern programmed. entering playlist then, setting length to 3, creating three steps in the playlist, where step 1 plays pattern 1 once, step 2 plays pattern 1 once but transposed by +3 and step three plays pattern 1 twice, but transpo

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arp record

2004-06-05 by scd

Hey Colin, thanks for the hint! Discovered a small bug I think though. When entering notes while the P3 is not running (in arp-mode with rong set to off), the first note recorded is step 16 instead of 1 :-))) Boele

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: Realtime record

2004-06-05 by Colin f

> Would it be possible to implement a sort of non-running record mode? > Where every keypress enters that note into the step and then > advancing > one step? ARP mode does that if you have 'rong' set to off. Just clr the pattern, then type in the notes. Press a note twice to leav

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Realtime record

2004-06-05 by Gene Schwartz

oh, it's still pretty early in the morning here...was just having my morning coffee. While Logic is quite a powerful program, I came to the conclusion that unless you use the Logic and hardware sequencer together only for syncing, it just gets way too complicated. From: scd Reply

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Re: Playlist

2004-06-05 by colinfraser_com

> Assume I have one pattern programmed. ...snip... > I *see* the playlist jump to P:4 R:2 T:0, the led on step 4 turns red, > but no sound. > > Yes, there ARE notes in pattern 4 and yes, midichannel is set to 1 as > is pattern1. > > I am sure *I* miss something here... But WHAT?

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Re: arp record

2004-06-05 by colinfraser_com

> Discovered a small bug I think though. > When entering notes while the P3 is not running (in arp-mode with rong > set to off), the first note recorded is step 16 instead of 1 :-))) That behaviour was in one of the earlier versions with ARP mode I think. v3.959 has that fixed, a

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Realtime record

2004-06-05 by Gene Schwartz

Off the top of my head, there would be several ways to accomplish it (including Paul's). You could put the Andromeda on 'local on', and choose the p3 midi track in Logic. So, you'd hear the Andromeda, and the MIDI would still go through the p3 midi track in logic to the p3. You c

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Realtime record

2004-06-05 by scd

Thanks Gene! Yes, I figured out that the P3 wants to be used as a stand alone sequencer when using it that way (or in arp mode). That's more for live usage. But it still are great options! Environments in Logic? Give me a break! I just started working with Logic :-))))) But as I

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Re: Realtime record

2004-06-05 by scd

Hi Paul, Sure it is saturday afternoon and you're absolutely right. So I attached the A6 directly to the P3 and things worked ok. :-)))) Colin: Would it be possible to implement a sort of non-running record mode? Where every keypress enters that note into the step and then advanc

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Realtime record

2004-06-05 by Paul Nagle

Hey man, it's Saturday afternoon and I'm utterly caned. So your email looks terribly complicated to me. Eliminate the computer entirely is my philosophy.... To record into the P3. Connect a keyboard's MIDI Out to the P3's In. To record into a pattern go into Pattern Edit. Hit rec

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Realtime record

2004-06-05 by Boele Gerkes

Trying this for the first time I do not understand how it works... First of all: HOW to set this up? I have Logic started up, the Andromeda and the P3. A6 in and out is on port 1 of the midi interface P3 in and out is on port 2 of the midi interface. A6 is set to local control of

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-05 by Robert van der Kamp

On Saturday 05 June 2004 11:06, Colin f wrote: > After a bit of jiggling about with the numbers, it looks > like I'll be able to generate the clock timer values from > a tempo value by using a 32 bit integer divide by an 8 or > 16 bit tempo value. With a bit of luck, this will >

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-05 by Colin f

After a bit of jiggling about with the numbers, it looks like I'll be able to generate the clock timer values from a tempo value by using a 32 bit integer divide by an 8 or 16 bit tempo value. With a bit of luck, this will actually reduce the size of the code (assuming the divide

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-05 by Paul Nagle

On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:58:12 -0000, "colinfraser_com" wrote: >Maybe the current tempo map could do with some tweaking though. >What tempo ranges do people use ? Typically between 90BPM and 148 BPM I guess. Paul --- Paul Nagle / Soft Room Music Email: paul@softroom.co.uk www.softr

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by Colin f

I forgot I changed the P3 cock to 18Mhz... which means the clock period resolution is in steps of 0.666 microseconds, and the minimum tempo is therefore about 30 bpm. I'm having play with some integer maths to see if I can calculate timer values on the fly from a 16 bit tempo. Ma

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by scd

That would be great indeed. But only if it does not interfere with other brilliant ideas you had in mind for those bytes... :-) Boele Op 5-jun-04 om 0:04 heeft Colin f het volgende geschreven: >>> The minimum theoretically possible tempo is around 19 bpm. >>> Maybe if I move the

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by Colin f

> > The minimum theoretically possible tempo is around 19 bpm. > > Maybe if I move the tempo map into RAM, I can save some > code space, and > > make it editable over sysex ;-) > > that would be an excellent solution... would that affect the number of > banks/patterns that could

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by blip

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, Colin f wrote: > The minimum theoretically possible tempo is around 19 bpm. > Maybe if I move the tempo map into RAM, I can save some code space, and > make it editable over sysex ;-) that would be an excellent solution... would that affect the number of banks

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RE: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by Colin f

> So how accurate is the p3 in the higher regions of the bpm??? It's very accurate at each setting - the issue is just the distance between discrete tempos. The current map runs from 40 to 120 bpm in 2 bpm steps, 120 to 150 bpm in 0.5 bpm steps, 150 to 170 bpm in 2 bpm steps, and

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by blip

On Fri, 4 Jun 2004, colinfraser_com wrote: > Maybe the current tempo map could do with some tweaking though. > What tempo ranges do people use ? 110-115, the officially sanctioned leichenfeld(tm) tempo range... :) (though i've found drinking earl grey usually makes me kick it up

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by scd

Using it stand alone I would opt for the lower speeds too. I would not need to go above 160 either. But I would definitely go lower then 40 if possible. The lower the better :-) Op 4-jun-04 om 23:05 heeft bruce thedekaa het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Colin, > > If i get the box

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by bruce thedekaa

Hi Colin, If i get the box i will use it between 80 and 195 bpm (i use the 80 to make odd sequences that go 160 bpm but in a different swing). So how accurate is the p3 in the higher regions of the bpm??? Greets Bruce --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun.

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Boing

2004-06-04 by Colin f

I had a problem with my ISP today that seems to have caused my email to bounce all day. If anyone sent me any mail directly, I missed it, so please resend. Cheers, Colin f

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Re: little weirdnesses

2004-06-04 by colinfraser_com

> Maybe it's possible to use some of the F1-F3 buttons to do a > fine tune on the currently dialed-in tempo? The only practical restriction on the fineness of the tempo setting is the interface - the knob only has 128 positions. The value that defines the period of the 48ppqn clo

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] Re: multilayer caps a problem?

2004-06-04 by bruce thedekaa

Hi, Can you also order a do it yourself kit with all the components from Colin? I don't need a box, just all the right bits. How much does this cost? Greets bRz --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger [Non-text portions of t

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Re: [analogue-sequencer] multilayer caps a problem?

2004-06-04 by Andy Wilson

Hi Chiel, On 4 Jun 2004 at 12:11, ch.³l wrote: > hi again... > i've just found out the local electronics store gave me 11 multilayer > capacitors instead of the ceramic discs i asked for. and of course > i've soldered them in place already. am i now going to blow up my P3 > on th

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Re: multilayer caps a problem?

2004-06-04 by colinfraser_com

> Can you also order a do it yourself kit with all the components from Colin? > > I don't need a box, just all the right bits. I put a couple of full kits together in the past to get an idea how much effort was involved. The end result was that I decided not to supply full kits -

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Re: multilayer caps a problem?

2004-06-04 by ch.³l

--- In analogue-sequencer@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Wilson" wrote: > Hi Chiel, > > On 4 Jun 2004 at 12:11, ch.³l wrote: > > > hi again... > > i've just found out the local electronics store gave me 11 multilayer > > capacitors instead of the ceramic discs i asked for. and of course

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multilayer caps a problem?

2004-06-04 by ch.³l

hi again... i've just found out the local electronics store gave me 11 multilayer capacitors instead of the ceramic discs i asked for. and of course i've soldered them in place already. am i now going to blow up my P3 on the first powerup? or do they work identically in a P3 cont

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