Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Wendel White
Everyone; Thanks for all the good replies. Interesting information, still not sure how I feel about all this. Wendel
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[Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Greg
... details of ... Similar but slightly different. Whoever built those pages spent a bunch of time on those carts.
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... It EPSON holds the specific ink patents, certainly. BUT, using cartridges to protect an ink monopoly if the ink itself is un-patentable and preventing
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Bob Frost
Frank, At the risk of upsetting Keith again, from what I have read it IS a highly creative process to combine many different existing ingredients (and probably
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... Touchè! ;-) Keith -- Keith Keith Krebs Just some guy, caretaker of the Multiverse s largest EPSON printer User Community (highly recommended by Vogon
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Bob Frost
Keith, Fair comment, but I think you replied to the wrong email I sent! The one you replied to referred to the details of how to refill the trickier Epson
Re: Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Frank Kolwicz
I think, Wendell, that what you are confusing is a marketing ploy vs intellectual property. If Epson really wanted to profit from their creativity, rather than
Re: [Digital BW] suggest Epson lawsuit congress letter text?
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... We should also try targeting key Congresspeople/Senators. The ones on the Commerce, Science and Technology Committees, as well as whichever committees
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... Wendel, Read the NY Times piece.. The former case is much moree common these days. Let me use a particular example from art and technology. Rob Silvers
suggest Epson lawsuit congress letter text?
2006-02-25 by djon43
Paul... I don t have an immediate dog in this fight as I ve only been using Epson s pigs. But I favor competition, want to protect MIS et al and don t like
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... Copyright and patent are VERY different. Copyright is simple recognition of artistic ownership, of creation by a particular individual Beacause most
Re: 1160 clog question
2006-02-25 by cloudswimmer7774
... of the ... syringe with ... soak up the ... pad and ... overnight. ... Paul, thanks for the reply, I moved the assembly to the cart changing position with
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Paul Roark
Let s see if a well known group, person, or governmental agency will carry the water for us. I m pursuing it. Paul www.PaulRoark.com
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
Not to make an important point glibly, but as I recall it (over the years), you ve consistently defended EPSON s (razor/blade) sales model: illegal tying
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Paul Roark
... No. The questions are much more complex. The action is at the interface of, for example, patents and antitrust. It s a huge field. See for example,
RE: [Digital BW] Re: epson lawsuit
2006-02-25 by Paul Roark
... Yes, there are always ways around things, but they may be expensive and limit the market. I suspect I ll be able to find ink for my 7500 for some time.
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Paul Roark
... And they ve left the door open to naming more parties. ... Yes, but the substance of the patent claims can t be decided by the ITC in the context of their
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
Paul, What about a bunch of us experts and consumer advocates filing an amicus brief? I m sure a number of players would be more than willing to lend their
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Wendel White
So, is the opposite true? If a small entrepreneur develops a unique product, we should defend the large companies that want to infringe on the patent? Wendel
[Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Chris Hargens
Well said, Duane ... Chris Hargens
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Bob Frost
Well said, Wendell, Bob Frost. ... From: Wendel White So is everyone saying that when a company invests time, creativity, and money
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Bob Frost
Canon s pigment printer is still awaiting birth, I believe! It may one day grow to be a big Gorilla (like some of Canon s other offspring), but at present
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Bob Frost
Greg, Are they like these ? (for the 2100/2200/1800/2400/etc) http://www.digital4to.com/ The Anatomy , Rheology , and Repletion sections give the full
[Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by dlruckus
Hi Wendel. In your case it s not quite the same. Anyone can go and stand in your footsteps,use the same film,camera,tripod, time of day etc etc and duplicate
Screen calibration help
2006-02-25 by sprite3652001
I should start off by stating that I m new to digital photography as well as the group and that my terminology may be a little sloppy. I ve recently purchased
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Wendel White
Maybe invent was a poorly chosen word. Nevertheless, a unique combination of materials is generally considered to be protected, though I would be the first to
Re: Questions about Using Color Settings and Workspace Profiles for Grayscale Pr
2006-02-25 by Clayton Jones
Hello Guhan, ... Well...yes, no and maybe . You are actually lumping together several things. First, Eboni is ink , not inks . Eboni is just a black
Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Greg
... The dark side is waiting for you....
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Tom Baker
Pardon me, but Epson did not invent the O ring, or foam pads. Tom Baker Wendel White wrote: So is everyone saying that when a
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Wendel White
So is everyone saying that when a company invests time, creativity, and money to invent a unique (or at least particular) design, that they should let others
Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by David M. Dorn
There may be another and bigger Gorilla in the pigment printer market. I am referring to Canon. I was just on Canon s website looking at their new 10 ink
Re: Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by john dean
Epson doesn t know how stupid they truely are. If they clamp down on 3rd party cart design what will happen? I ll tell you what, really efficient CFS systems
RE:About to sell my 2200
2006-02-25 by Derek Ealy
Yesterday I posted about selling my 2200, someone named Phil replied, but his return address is invalid. His email started with brouwerkent@??????.com. Send me
Epson Lawsuit -- MIS
2006-02-25 by Chris Hargens
According to MIS, its cartridge supplier is not named in the announcement by Epson. http://inksupply.info/?_a=announcements&_m=details&_i=67 Chris Hargens
Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Greg
... representative and senators? ... It looks like they are going after some pretty small things, and some of those have been implemented in printers from
[Digital BW] Re: epson 3000 BO?
2006-02-25 by Tyler Boley
... ...oh man, the truth you tell, the poetry, the blandly stated overwhelming understatemnt, the...
Re: [Digital BW] Re: epson 3000 BO?
2006-02-25 by Dan Koons
Tyler, thank you for your help. I have found it is less expensive to be on the trailing edge of digital technology than the leading...so long as it is not too
Re: Is Epson 4800 overkill for me?
2006-02-25 by Michael Hung
The 4800 s only C$1999 after rebate in Canada till Mar 1. The 2400 s still about C$1100. The C$500 worth of ink in 4800 is making it really attractive.. (or
Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by edrudolpho
Paul, or someone else, can you outline the points to be raised when writing to one s representative and senators? thanks, Ed
Best satin finish
2006-02-25 by Clarence Walker
Having now experimented with the Media Street Generations GQ Lustre in combination with their Quadtone B&W inks, an R200, and the Quadtone RIP and not caring
Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Jack Winberg
Paul: Thank you SO much! You have inspired me to get off my lazy lurking bottom and DO something. Thanks for making it is easy. A LOT is at stake here! Jack
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Paul Roark
... Of course, what is good for the goose is good for the gander. They all try to monopolize the aftermarket inks sales for their printers. Paul
The jump to Canon
2006-02-25 by Clarence Walker
Having long used the Canon i9900, which does an incredible job of what it does do, the cost per thimble full of ink is around 11.00 US. Maybe some of you are
RE: [Digital BW] Printers of the future
2006-02-25 by Clarence Walker
I especially appreciated the wisdom in this, So, what we can do is make enough noise to focus attention on a potential problem that needs detailed analysis.
[Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by john dean
A 13 x19 pigment print on any media in 1.5 minutes with a fade rating twice that of Ultrachrome? That s a very interesting development.Don t make us mad
Re: About to sell my 2200
2006-02-25 by Helen Bach
I agree with Paul - there are plenty of good reasons to hang on to a perfectly good 2200, especially if you are doing B&W: Paul s new ink set; Cone K6 or K7 or
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Questions about Using Color Settings and Workspace Profiles for Grayscale Pr
2006-02-25 by Steve Kale
... No I was referring to the A2Bx versus the B2Ax tags within an ICC profile. It s worth having a look at the contents of an ICC profile at some point. If you
Extra media types with Epson R2400
2006-02-25 by john794552
Ian Lyons from Computer-Darkroom states on his site that many Epson printers ship with ICC media profiles for papers other than Epson. The PIM driver may need
Re: Questions about Using Color Settings and Workspace Profiles for Grayscale Pr
2006-02-25 by G Guhan Gunaratnam
Thanks a lot for the information Clayton and Steve, it was very helpful in clearing up some, but not all, the questions :) (of course I have a slew more) So
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson files lawsuits against cartridge resellers
2006-02-25 by Ernst Dinkla
... This sounds really good. Three to compete. All three allow 1.5 mm thick media (Canon Pixma IPF5000 not the 9000). Wilhelm test. Not the right time for