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2006-11-01 by IZAM
thats right folks , your being punished for speaking the truth , cynthia was like , f . . . those arrogant customers and betrayers , i will show them , i;ll charge them more . .(joke for those who didnt get it ) , its a sensible price hike so production can be undertaken on a sma
2006-11-01 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)
Well, it's been nice, interesting and very educational. However, time for me to depart. Have fun everyone. Best wishes to Cynthia. dale band web pages Inquisitor Betrayer New CD "Space Elevator" Get it at http://cdbaby.com/cd/inquisitorbetrayer http://www.inquisitorbetrayer.com ,
2006-11-01 by stimbox
> nice mark up huh? > everyone happy now? this sucks. oh well, too rich for my blood now. i guess i won't be getting a ZO now.
2006-11-01 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)
nice mark up huh? everyone happy now? dale band web pages Inquisitor Betrayer New CD "Space Elevator" Get it at http://cdbaby.com/cd/inquisitorbetrayer http://www.inquisitorbetrayer.com , http://www.myspace.com/inquisitorbetrayer , http://www.musicforte.com/member/ib_staff and An
2006-11-01 by cuari7
I celebrate Cynthia's decision to do this. As previously discussed, this will markedly improve customer satisfaction. And YES, OF COURSE she needs to raise the prices!! So let's not start a thread on "ewwwww, these prices are too high!!!", people. If you really like the product,
2006-11-01 by laryn91
Do you expect the added middle-man should provide his service to you for FREE? Cynthia's costs still remain the same, so AH has to add a couple hundred dollars on top. I'm sure AH wouldn't appreciate Cynthia selling her ZO's for $250 less. I bet they made a non-compete agreement
2006-11-01 by ach_gott@yahoo.com
In my experience, pre order means they will not charge until they take delivery and that they ship immediately thereafter. Hence the 'email for availability' next to some products. They essentially take plan b length delay times as their own risk. My experience with them has been
2006-11-01 by IZAM
Hi analogue haven i found superb also but i only ordered goods they said were in stock and which were. Analogue haven delivery arrived very quickly for me and they were by far the most reliable people i have dealt with in many years . . . . . . . . does anyone know if ' pre order
2006-11-01 by Bakis Sirros
hello, yes, but, 995 USD??? all other modules from other manufacturers (plan b, livewire, bananalogue) have the same prices when you buy them direct (if possible) or from analogue haven. why this huge price rise from 750 USD to 995 ??? best regards, Bakis. --- laryn91 wrote: > >
2006-11-01 by Bakis Sirros
hello list, OK, sorry, now i see. there is a big price rise in the ZO in the cyndustries site! so, the ZO price is now 995 USD regardless if you buy it direct or from analogue haven. so, my verdict is that selling the ZO thru analogue haven is a GREAT decision, as the AH service
2006-11-01 by laryn91
Check out: http://www.analoguehaven.com/cyndustries/zeroscillator/
2006-10-31 by jason piwek
Hi, just responding: I payed for one 'fabricated' 'MOTM' ocolator from CYNTHIA , Its much better then any OSC out there and got delivered quicker then the 310 And 300 AHHH!!!.even the KIT or God forbid !!...you can also get 'fabricated' ZO'S in many styles Tres cool!! ___________
2006-10-31 by legion01x
Not to change topics from ordering issues but I noticed there are some new pictures up. I'm curious who is in the Science of Sound group and what they do. anyone?? Beuller PS: Got my Anything Module in the mail today which completes my outstanding order. Thanks and God help my ne
2006-10-31 by Carlos
Definetlly frustrated, specially when full pament went in "because the more peopel do full payments the faster they will start shipping they are almost ready!" and because I did so in february when they were expected to ship 'in a month or so' and I am still waiting. C, --- In Th
2006-10-31 by John Joseph
--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "r_a_quirk" wrote: > > one thing Cynthia reminded me of that I had forgotten was that she had > warned me that it would take forever, and I had agreed. I'm sure > eventually it will turn out fine. > no one ever mentioned "forever" to m
2006-10-31 by r_a_quirk
one thing Cynthia reminded me of that I had forgotten was that she had warned me that it would take forever, and I had agreed. I'm sure eventually it will turn out fine.
2006-10-30 by david rothbaum
Hi, All of the modules have sold. Thanks to everyone who bought them. --david --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "david rothbaum" wrote: > > Hello, > > I am very sadly selling my series A system. Recent circumstances dictate that I need to sell > something and unfortuna
2006-10-30 by Bryan E Cornell
For what it's worth, I think she has been pretty responsive at communicating with the group on the status of the ZO's. It seems pretty atypical that she has chimed in on this thread. There are certainly far less responsive module manufacturers out there. (Not to mention specifics
2006-10-30 by mimulon
> you forgot the EU lead solder ban. another monkey wrench in the machine. though it seems > insignificant to some of the other hardships/changes i'm sure it slowed things down a bit. That's the RoHS bit I mentioned, right? 'Restriction of Hazardous Substances' http://en.wikipedi
2006-10-30 by dayjob111
> I know that things have been rather tough for one person to handle. > The family deaths, the complexity of the ZO project in all the > formats, the re-designs, the custom orders, the back-orders, new > product design, the move, RoHS, and who knows what else -- a full > plate to
2006-10-29 by mimulon
She's clearly not a proactive communicator to begin with, and isn't very organized. That's okay though. I'm familiar with the type--she's just an optimist and not happy giving bad news. Self esteem is driven by happy customers, and it can be discouraging when lots of people are r
2006-10-28 by cuari7
--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "Dale \(Inquisitor Betrayer\)" wrote: > > If the point is to scare the lurkers into not buying, where else are you > going to get the products? Seems very counter-productive to be biting the > hand that feeds us. With no intention to b
2006-10-28 by Greg Martin
My intent in posting my experience is not to "fling poo" as one poster put it, nor was it to scare of potential customers "biting the hand that feeds"....it was/is merely to express my frustration at the outright deceptive timetables I have been consistently getting as to when I
2006-10-28 by r_a_quirk
cyndustries emails are amazing and unique. I have friends that use them and they are their favourite modules in their systems. I just want to get mine before it's 4th anniversary. I understand the side effects of buying boutique gear (my tube guitar and keyboard amps are all made
2006-10-28 by cuari7
--- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, "laryn91" wrote: > > Then are you also willing to pay that additional middle-man mark-up? Absolutely. Yes. No sweat. > I'll bet if you offered Paul an additional 50% cash for each module, > your order would immediately go to the top of
2006-10-27 by laryn91
"if he decided to sell his original 5-U modules > through Analogue Haven, I would immediately get me a huge batch!" Then are you also willing to pay that additional middle-man mark-up? I'll bet if you offered Paul an additional 50% cash for each module, your order would immediate
2006-10-27 by Jay
Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer) wrote: > If the point is to scare the lurkers into not buying, where else are you > going to get the products? Seems very counter-productive to be biting the > hand that feeds us. I have never tried to scare anybody from purchasing anything. My point is
2006-10-27 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)
I don't know about you Jay, but when I ask things of either Paul or Cynthia, they reply. Not always what I want to hear/read but they reply. Cynthia sometimes takes a while but it's understandable and she makes it well known to me when there is a delay in apologetic way. Same for
2006-10-27 by laryn91
Being an audiophile, I deal a lot with small boutique businesses who make extraordinary products. Up-front payments, months or years delays, limited communications and optimistic deliveries are almost always the case. When you meet these boutique owners, you realize they're not r
2006-10-27 by damon
Analogue Haven is, in fact, shipping from stock on Plan B now. Cynthia has had a very hard year and in my opinion her work is fantastic and worth the wait. I had to cancel orders due to the wait but only because of a personal urgency, not due to discontent with the timeline (desp
2006-10-27 by Jay
Mike Marsh wrote: > Have you PayPal'd Paul and not received product from Paul personally? Yep. Of course, 4 months is nothing compared to others. But I just ordered panels and a DotCom power board adapter that was supposed to ship for sure "within a week" of 9/10. I'm tired of wa
2006-10-26 by Mike Marsh
I can only speak to my experience with Cynthia, Paul, Grant Ken, John and all the others. It has been uniformly fair and good. Have you PayPal'd Paul and not received product from Paul personally? Mike --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, Jay wrote: > > Mike Marsh wrote:
2006-10-26 by Dennis Verschoor
Come on people. Stop throwing poo. Cyn is a great woman and we all should have some more patience for such nice modules. Or go for Doepfer instead. And yeah i am waiting for stuff to. Regards, Dennis On 10/26/06, cuari7 diaz.jesus@mayo.edu > wrote: In my personal experience, Paul
2006-10-26 by Jay
Mike Marsh wrote: > I don't know if you meant to imply that Paul accepts payment for > undelivered stuff, and I don't mean this as a flame :) It's been my > (long) experience with Paul that he *does not* charge your card until > he ships, which granted can take longer than origin
2006-10-26 by Dale (Inquisitor Betrayer)
I don't know about the Oasys things you are waiting on but Stephen Kay seems to have spent a lot of his effort on it. Much to my dismay as I am waiting for him to return to the karma software updates and possible Universal program for karma to use on other synths... Then I read t
2006-10-26 by cuari7
In my personal experience, Paul S. never took $$$ from my CC until he was ready to ship, but the fact that he didn't does not make the frustration much lower (at least for me, I guess). I gotta tell you, if he decided to sell his original 5-U modules through Analogue Haven, I wou
2006-10-26 by rslawson
This issue is very much the same with most small outfits like MOTM et al. The truth about taking 100% payments in advance can only be about funding the business operational and development costs IMO. I may be wrong but in my e x perience this is usually the case and not surprisin
2006-10-26 by Mike Marsh
I don't know if you meant to imply that Paul accepts payment for undelivered stuff, and I don't mean this as a flame :) It's been my (long) experience with Paul that he *does not* charge your card until he ships, which granted can take longer than originally promised. I have been
2006-10-26 by John Joseph
as a small buisness owner myself , i can agree with everything that richard said. For myself , i would be happier if i was told upfront about how long it would be. Bad news , though accurate , is much better than the feeling that i'm being told something just to keep me happy....
2006-10-26 by cuari7
This same problem has been seen with other analog modular manufacturers, not just Cynthia's. It would have been interesting if Gino Robair had made a strong emphasis about this issue in both his EM review articles. My personal take on the issue is: a small enterprise like theirs
2006-10-26 by r_a_quirk
I wouldn't feel too bad, I've been waiting 3&1/2 years +. Half of it was a custom job, but still. It seems the only way to get any reply is to put a message on the list. I've kept quiet till now but good karma hasn't done me any good so far I used to be an all banana modular user
2006-10-26 by IZAM
the essence of the problem is taking full payment for products in the first place you dont have in stock . Make some modules first and then sell them .Its not the waiting that annoys people buy the fact they paid in full and get nothing in return.Not good karma ! stephen@thekitch
2006-10-26 by Greg Martin
I have been patiently waiting for my Blacet format ZO since paying in full early last February (9 months).... It seems to me that everytime I (or someone else) asks about shipping dates , we receive the same reply..."still a few more weeks"...For the last 3 months I have been per
2006-10-26 by Cynthia Webster
Howdy! We've been working quite hard at catching-up with back orders and building Zeroscillator assemblies. My Father passing away, and then moving the entire company did put quite a strain on me and definitely set the company production schedule back somewhat. With nose-to-grind
2006-10-25 by stephen@thekitchen.org
this definitely seems to be the sentiment. I paid in full for a Eurorack ZO in June. At the time, the website said "now shipping." I've been encouraged to be patient by the good spirit and enthusiasm from postings on this list-serve but feel like we are all due some form of relia
2006-10-25 by John Hammaren
Seems like a long time since I made my final payment on this. ;-) ________________________________ From: The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 1:55 PM To: The_Cyndustries_List@yahoo
2006-10-25 by david rothbaum
Hello, I am very sadly selling my series A system. Recent circumstances dictate that I need to sell something and unfortunatly the Series A stuff is what has to go. All of the modules are brand new with he exception of the O1a oscillator which I recently bought used from Les Mizz
2006-10-25 by Carlos
Any updates Cynthia? its been over a month since this last one, nothing shipping yet? seems like its been so long since I placed that order.... --- In The_Cyndustries_List@yahoogroups.com, Cynthia Webster wrote: > > legravin wrote: > > > It's been a couple of weeks since Cyndustr
2006-10-22 by laryn91
I posted some pictures in the Doepfer_a100 group photo section ("Laryn91's Modular"). There's also a couple of photos with a 10- turn counting knob on my Zeroscillator: http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/photos/browse/b1 86?b=1&m=t --- In The_Cyndustries_List@ya
2006-10-22 by Eric Frampton
Hi all - New list member here. I'm wondering if there is any easy way to convert Cyndustries format to MOTM without one-off fab'ing a new front panel, or alternatively, if there are any plans to bring the Anything Module over to MOTM format. The Anything Module looks like just th