Re: Spyder3Elite v3.0.7 to v3.2.1 Update
2009-09-08 by dougkerr_1999
Hi, e, ... Ah, but when you install it, you find out that it is 3.1.2 after all. Then, if you check Help Updates, you will find that your are running 3.1.2,
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Re: Spyder3Elite v3.0.7 to v3.2.1 Update
2009-09-08 by ejc_1@swbell.net
I linked in after seeing this via my software update. It says 3.1.7 is available, I am running 3.07, it shows 3.1.7 is available. When I go to the download
Spyder3Elite v3.0.7 to v3.2.1 Update
2009-09-08 by Rebel PPC
It has just come to my attention that my Spyder3Elite software v3.0.7 is out of date and that v3.2.1 is now available. After going through two horrifying
Re: Measured Paper White Far Off/OK Now
2009-09-07 by rschoner
Hi Again, Well, I visited the FAQ section of the DataColor website and it told me to clean the white tile. I did and all is well. Sorry for the over-reaction,
Measured Paper White Far Off
2009-09-06 by rschoner
Hi, I was re-doing some profiles using Epson Photo Glossy paper by printing and measuring new targets. Although the profiles seem ok, the paper measures around
Re: [datacolor_group] rendering intent
2009-09-05 by Cdtobie
Profile targets are not printed through an intent (or a profile), so they are not intent-specific, they can be used for any intent. Intents, for the most part,
rendering intent
2009-09-05 by dsainsbu
What are the advantages/disadvantages of the various rendering intents when creating printer profiles? Do you have to use the same rendering intent when
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver? [1 Attachment]
2009-09-04 by magickPal
In Hollywood they would call that anonymous collaboration . Welcome to Hollywood. ... From: C D Tobie To:
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... Well, they will be a rough series, since they were written on the fly; but still of use, I expect. Hopefully none of it will come back to haunt me. ;-)
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver? [1 Attachment]
2009-09-04 by magickPal
Yes! Absolutely, I am learning more from this thread than all the others put together and am saving them. David Pal Thats great to hear. One of the goals of
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... Thats a correct statement, but the devil is in the details. The user in question uses glossy media, which offer deep blacks, and prefers to see LCD screen
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... No, I m saying the tools are doing their job correctly, and the problem lies elsewhere: in metamerism in the Canon dye inks, especially under incandescent
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... The other factor here is adjusting for light color temperature. Since I suspect it is metamerism (color inconstancy) in the dye inks under incandescent
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... Yes, I was graciously ignoring that outlier... ;-) C. David Tobie Global Product Technology Manager Digital Imaging & Home Theater CDTobie@datacolor.com
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... Thats great to hear. One of the goals of discussing this stuff in public is to spread knowledge to more than the one party who would hear about it in a
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by C D Tobie
... Thinking in Lab is very useful for this type of work; RGB is not a good set of units for it. First the L* value is luminance, from dead black (L*=0) to
Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by dsainsbu
I don t want to add to the confusion BUT The softproof should not look like the image you are editing. Because the softproof (printer) range of colors (gamut)
RE: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by Bob Petruska
Bob, Thanks for that conversion link and the numbers. I m too old also, 60, and putting in 12-14 hours the last 6 days on this has taken its toll! I need a
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by Bob Petruska
So you are saying that from my data that the measured greys look fine and that I will get the best possible match to the monitor image at this point. Makes
RE: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by Bob and Carol Schoner
Hi Bob, I m too old to think in LAB, so I converted to RGB using this online calculator: http://www.brucelindbloom.com/index.html?ColorCalcHelp.html The
Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by dsainsbu
Thanks guys for your patience and persistance. I am learning more from this thread than any number of publications.
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by Cdtobie
Your Spyder profile grays aren t quite as neutral as they would be with a pigment printer with multiple grays, but they tend to be within two units of neutral
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-04 by Bob Petruska
Bob, Dave.... OK, I performed the grey block measurements. Just so we are all clear, these are the grey blocks for the B/W photo with the church and boat. I
Re: [datacolor_group] Monitor Warm-Up time for LCD's
2009-09-04 by Cdtobie
Spyder3Elite is set to not prompt you to recalibrate until your machine had been on at least an hour, but there are ways this can be short circuited. But yes,
Re: [datacolor_group] Monitor Warm-Up time for LCD's
2009-09-04 by Jim Miller
the backlighting for nearly all lcds is flourescent which changes color and intensity as it comes alive. hence the warmup time. jtm
Monitor Warm-Up time for LCD's
2009-09-04 by Rebel PPC
Equipment: Dell Ultrasharp 2208WFP 22 Widescreen Flat Panel LCD Monitor Profiling Goodies: Datacolor Spyder3elite with v3.0.7 software I have my system set to
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by Cdtobie
can t reply to all of this from an iPhone, but here are a few items. Glad to hear you will be getting a Pro9500; after the initial dye-to- pigment trauma, I
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by Cdtobie
A measurement will tell us a lot about mechanical neutrality, but not much about his lightsource, and metamerism issues. I ve printed images through an S3Print
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by Cdtobie
Yes, you can use the larger medium gray patch in the lower left image in SpyderProof, printed directly from Spyder3Print, to check measured neutrality of
RE: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by Bob and Carol Schoner
Hi, The Datacolor test prints have some b&w pictures. One of them has a line of light to dark gray squares. What I did was to crop the gray square line out
RE: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by Bob Petruska
Bob S. What grey color would you like me to measure and how do I do that? Should I go into Photoshop and make a grey square with designated RGB values? Then
RE: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver? [1 Attachment]
2009-09-03 by Bob and Carol Schoner
... From: datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com [mailto:datacolor_group@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of C D Tobie Sent: Thursday, September 03, 2009 9:04 AM To:
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver? [1 Attachment]
2009-09-03 by Bob Petruska
David, Thanks for the reply! Some answers..... 1. I feel that the monitor is not too bright or too dim in a dim lit room with light blocking window blinds
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by C D Tobie
... One of the virtues of color profiles is that they are not variable items. The settings, the drivers, the applications, may vary, but the color profiles do
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by C D Tobie
... Not a Datacolor product, but it certainly should produce a reasonably calibrated display... just be sure its not too bright or too dim for your viewing
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by chriscalvert@paradise.net.nz
I have to concur with Bob that there is something somewhere not quite right. Unfortunately I struggle with some of the concepts etc as I am not a photographer
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-09-03 by Bob Petruska
Terrie, Thanks for all the information you furnished below.... I spent the last 5 days really getting nowhere than where I was last week with color matching. I
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Is Spyder 3 Pro a good choice for me ?
2009-09-02 by Cdtobie
Relating screen brightness to ambient light does serve the purpose of avoiding uncomfortable glare; but that doesn t mean it s only about comfort, it s also
Re: Is Spyder 3 Pro a good choice for me ?
2009-09-01 by vchavarha
Thanks David ! So in other words the liminance is only for the comfortable level and should not affect the appearence of my photographs in print ?
Re: [datacolor_group] Is Spyder 3 Pro a good choice for me ?
2009-09-01 by C D Tobie
... Spyder3Pro has an ambient light function that allows you to measure the light in your work area, and defines a target which will adjust the display
Is Spyder 3 Pro a good choice for me ?
2009-09-01 by vchavarha
I ordered Spyder 3 Pro to complement my HP LP2475W monitor. The goal to edit photographs only once so that whatever is printed looks more or less like what is
Re: Problems with Spyder3Elite - measured value outside of expected range
2009-08-29 by abigfunguy
... As soon as the support link on the DataColor site start working I ll open one. Ken
Re: Spyder3Print profiles worse than standard Canon driver?
2009-08-29 by tlbepson
... I will be most interested in your report... ... monitor how do I know that the printer and the monitor think alike with the same file data? What I m
Re: [datacolor_group] Problems with Spyder3Elite - measured value outside of expected range
2009-08-29 by Cdtobie
Definately a case for a support ticket. C. D. Tobie Global Product Technology Mngr. Digital Imaging & Home Theater Datacolor.com CDTobie@Datacolor.com
RE: [datacolor_group] New Spyder3Print SR - review
2009-08-29 by Michael Farley
Thanks, David. It is refreshing to see at least one manufacturer continuing to support its older products as well as active participation on this forum.
Re: [datacolor_group] Re: Problems with Spyder3Elite - measured value outside of expected range
2009-08-29 by David Miller
... My fault, for skimming your first post too quickly! I m not sure what the problem is, and printer profiling is what I work on, but if you can open a
Re: Problems with Spyder3Elite - measured value outside of expected range
2009-08-29 by abigfunguy
... David, If you re-read my message that was the first thing I did was use the menu option to find out there was a new option. I did install 3.1.1 over
Re: [datacolor_group] Problems with Spyder3Elite - measured value outside of expected range
2009-08-29 by David Miller
... One thing I d recommend: get the latest software; you can download the 3.1.1 installer for Spyder3Elite from the main Datacolor site (you re several
Re: [datacolor_group] New Spyder3Print SR - review
2009-08-29 by David Miller
... Some more bits of information: The new 4.0 software has been in the works for more than a year, and there are a huge number of changes and improvements:
New Spyder3Print SR - review
2009-08-29 by kcooper666
I ve been testing out the new Spyder3print SR print profiling system, including some B/W on a Canon iPF6100 I ve been looking at. Works rather well with the