Re: [L-OT] protecting freedom?
2001-10-12 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck
... To be honest, I was afraid someone would mention this explanation which was given by the White House. However, I don t understand it: why should there be
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Re: [L-OT] protecting freedom?
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
I can t speak to that but as an aside I will say I was quite irate about the closing of iraradio.com and the website that does the allewis show by the
Re: [L-OT] protecting freedom?
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
It s difficult - to be fair, I think there s some reasonable chance that bin Laden s messages include coded instructions - this sort of thing was common in
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2001-10-12 by LogicBaby
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Re: [L-OT] protecting freedom?
2001-10-12 by Murray McDowall
... You have to wonder about the prudence of some American media coverage though. I turned on US Today the other night and they had this expert explaining
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Did the US invade Afganistan in 1980 and execute a brutal war? No that was Russia. The US and the Arab world supported the resistance fighters - it did not
protecting freedom?
2001-10-12 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck
This war is advertised as a war against terrorism... as a war to protect our freedom. The White House has asked broadcasters not to broadcast Bin Laden s
Re: [L-OT] What Would Happen If... ?
2001-10-12 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck
... I won t comment on your ideas, but I had some funny ideas as well: what if the US didn t drop bombs, but only dropped food! All the money that goes into
Re: [L-OT] Re: What Would Happen If... ?
2001-10-12 by Joeri Vankeirsbilck
... I agree, this is indeed incorrect imo. It s Europe s policy since the 19th century that s responsable for the current situation in the Middle East. --
Re: [L-OT] protecting freedom?
2001-10-12 by LogicBaby
And the US government has Officially asked Qatar to sensor al-jazeera, because they host talk shows that anyone can call and say there opinion, Freedom of
Re: Liberating Holy Lands
2001-10-12 by cas@s.netic.de
... US ... the ... wish to ... the ... problem was ... peoples were too ... worship the ... Bin Laden s wish is to have Taliban-style governments installed in
Re: What Would Happen If... ?
2001-10-12 by cas@s.netic.de
As someone who was indirectly affected by the Gulf War (my dad and my best friend were US Army sent to Saudi Arabia), I have always believed that we should
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Vincent Kenis
... Thank you very much for asking. Some of my best friends live in war zones (Congo, Rwanda, Macedonia) and it s certainly one reason for these horrible
Re: Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by Dennis Gunn
... I think you are making a mistake there. I am pretty sure that it is not the case that those are nuclear, but I am not an authority on ordinance. The
What Would Happen If... ?
2001-10-12 by denizen@INSYNC.NET
Hi gang, This is what I started to write to Dennis, but it got pretty offtopic for the thread, so here it is with its own. Being the idealist-pacifict that I
Re: Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by Mark at Enduser
... suffered ... understand? ... errr... but taking the analogy further - wasnt it America that built the factory in the first place? who do you think it was
I love this stuff!!!
2001-10-12 by cas@s.netic.de
Even though we re all talking around / through / over each other, This is quite possibly the coolest thread I ve read in years. Sadly, it s about a subject
Re: [L-OT] What Would Happen If... ?
2001-10-12 by LogicBaby
You could have not said it any better, totally agree, I am against terrorism in any means but on the same hand one has to question the reasons, its not an
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by denizen@INSYNC.NET
... First of all, I never blindly asserted that everything the US does is wrong. My whole argument (and my only reason for contributing to this thread) is to
Re: US crimes against Arabs/Moslems
2001-10-12 by cas@s.netic.de
... policy ... reign, ... have two ... In the interest of the Saudis and Kuwaitis, or our own? I ll take #2. ... Which is all we should have done, but we
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Dennis Gunn
... To blindly assert that whatever the US does *no matter what that is* does more disservice IMHO. More than one party in this forum has berated the US for
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by Dennis Gunn
... My analogy did not include anything like this. ... This is a rather gross over simplification of a gross over simplification isn t it? ... Only what you
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by Dennis Gunn
... And this is the typical quality of distortion that people use to vilify the US. Hussein asked a highly elliptical question to a low level diplomat who not
Re: Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by denizen@INSYNC.NET
... No effort that focuses on destruction of soldiers, politicians, weapons, or facilities will succeed in preventing future attacks. So long as there is such
Weird
2001-10-12 by Teddy Kumpel
Weird that there s a perpetual fire in NYC and a perpetual earthquake in Afghanistan. anyone else think that s weird? I think NYC is gonna become a giant red
Re: Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by GAmoore@aol.com
... I heard a commentator today describe it nicely. Imagine a factory that turns out terrorists like Al Quaeda. They take in Allegerians, Egyptians, etc and
Re: Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by GAmoore@aol.com
... If its not to be taken literally, then it should be taken figuratively. In this context, it would imply that the Crusaders were the cause of all their
Pakistan and Afganistan
2001-10-12 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Its often mentioned that the US created Bin Laden in the Afgan-Russian war. I heard the author of a book called Soldiers of God who spent years in
Re: europen friends/Enviromental fanatics
2001-10-12 by Teddy Kumpel
... Please, don t read that into what i wrote and group me with other people s opinions! I never implied anything like that in anything i wrote and i hate
Re: [L-OT] European "Friends" / Contributions to Peace
2001-10-12 by Kool Musick
Kool Musick wrote: Regarding Hatshepshut -- what Bob Brier had to say is still regarded as unsettled and is still being debated by Egyptologists.
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
Yes, thanks, doing good here. ... From: Kool Musick To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 9:14 PM Subject:
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Kool Musick
Wilson Zorn wrote: Hope everyone is doing okay personally, incidentally. Yes, thank you. I sincerely hope the same holds for you. Kool Musick Keep Musick
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by Spectro
... Real Clever. That s a truly pathetic analysis. Do you even know why that quotations is there? I doubt it. No, you just see it as some kind of literal
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-12 by Kool Musick
GA Moore wrote: Primitive people always ascribe God to anything they can t understand or control. Kind Sir ... be very careful indeed what you choose to
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
... NO, it was an ANALOGY! Get it right! I m just kidding, making light of our little debates here and ability for everyone to pick a point to argue. Hope
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
... list. ... Okay, but my opinion is that Dennis used a good ANALOGY, not a fairy tale . The two are very different. I think perhaps you should apologize to
Re: [L-OT] European "Friends" / Contributions to Peace
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
... of ... Totally fair although from what I m seeing on the web more and more Egyptologists are now embracing this, so I tend to think it s becoming fact
Re: Attacking the Taliban vs terrorism( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
... without casualties. The only difference is IMO that it takes longer. And for political reasons it isn t popular to have a campaign running for long periods
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
... Laden, unconditionally. Then, you threaten them to attack them, if they don t hand over that person. You, the government of the USA, go around some
Re: [L-OT] The Terrorists of Tomorrow (long)
2001-10-12 by Wilson Zorn
... From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 3:34 AM Subject: Re: [L-OT] The Terrorists of Tomorrow (long) ... I
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-11 by Vincent Kenis
... Maybe that s why America has a habit of supporting and financing the most brutal dictatures in the world, including the Taliban regime until recently ?
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-11 by LogicBaby
This is very true, Sandi-man hussain had a green light to go and capture some disputed oil fields on the Kuwaiti boarders, but everyone was surprised that he
Re: [L-OT] Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-11 by denizen@INSYNC.NET
... My response was to Dennis, who was confused about why anyone would find his analogy to be a gross oversimplification of the political situation at hand.
Enduser - US to blame for Terror
2001-10-11 by GAmoore@aol.com
... Very wrong. Russia attack and killed Moslems in Afganistan and continues to do so in Chechya - where is the condemnation for all that death? The US has
Locusts for Dinner
2001-10-11 by GAmoore@aol.com
... I ve noticed that people from repressive regimes often think there is a conspiracy in everything. I think the American agenda is to maintain stability in
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-11 by Mark at Enduser
... really? you can say this in all honesty? ... Agreeed nothing subtle about the attack - however there was a very subtle interplay of forces (discussion,
Re: Attacking Afghanistan( was: Re: [L-OT] OT^2 - Thanks)
2001-10-11 by denizen@INSYNC.NET
... Nobody doubts the lack-of-subtlety in the 9-11 attack. I think what Mark meant by subtle interplay was the complex history of interrelations we ve had
US crimes against Arabs/Moslems
2001-10-11 by GAmoore@aol.com
... How about these things the US did : - take the side of Egypt against Britain and France in the Suez incident in the 1950 s - come fight a war against Iraq,
Liberating Holy Lands
2001-10-11 by GAmoore@aol.com
Ironically one of the main rallying cries of the extremists is that US troops are in Saudi. Never mind that the infidels are protecting the holy sites from