Re: Refilling Carts
2003-05-28 by Johnny Eades
Hello Bill, Go to the website for MIS inks www.inksupply.com and find the page that gives the instructions on refilling your particular printer s cartridge.
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RE: [Digital BW] Preserving inkjet prints
2003-05-28 by capuozzo
Permajet also makes a protective coating that will not change the image if sprayed very lightly using several passes. Also will not change the mattness of
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Jon, ... Apparently not. For two reasons. One, the spectral information is irrelevant, and two, the intensity information IS contained in the RGB data. ...
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Hi Truman, ... Correct. ... Agreed. ... Agreed. ... Well, that s what I d like to believe... I m sure that somewhere along the spectral curve that the
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Jon Dubovsky
... Ah, kind sir, I never asserted that one cannot get great results from the process. :) In fact, I ve printed a large number of quite pleasing b&w prints
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Truman Prevatt
CCD s and film are energy detectors - their response is directly proportional to the incident energy in a given frequency range. Different types of
Re: Preserving pigment inkjet prints, cont'd
2003-05-28 by nick90290
... outgassing and UV protection for pigment inkjet (Epson 2200) prints mounted bare, without glass. ... Krylon seems to own the market for sealants, so I
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Anthony, ... Those are two entirely different problems. One is spectrally sensitive, and the other is simply intensity sensitive, with no spectral content.
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Anthony, ... That s not relevant to the discussion. Let s just stick to simple grayscale conversion from RGB values. ... But again, that s not relevant for
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
... I m game ;-) Austin
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Jon Dubovsky
... Mathematically, it is the same. Whether the response functions overlap or not, except for trivial cases (again, such as an impulse function for the
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Anthony, ... What, precisely, does B&W film sense ? What information is recorded on B&W film, and what information do the scanned values 0-255, let s say,
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by sceptre12345
... Arguing my ... Until ... Anyone get anything usefull out of this tread or am I missing something ? Cheers, Andre
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Anthony, ... No, actually, you haven t... I know you believe you have, but you re missing the point. ... But, as I ve said, I see what you claim can t be
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Anthony, ... Who cares about that, but you? I don t use colored filters for my B&W images. Ever. You know, if this just doesn t work, then how come it DOES
RE: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Austin Franklin
Jon, ... It does NOT have to map to a unique input, it has to map to the same response as the B&W film does, and as you should know, B&W film renders different
Preserving inkjet prints
2003-05-28 by rr6x7
I have tried and experienced the same results with spray coatings and am surprised that there are no mainstream products made specifically for ink prints. The
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Julian Thomas
Peter, I m with you - this whole debate by Anthony is a troll. Arguing my analogy quickly descends into arguing whether the analogy is valid. Until Anthony
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
Maybe I should try flash cards and puppets. ... From: Peter Nelson To: Sent:
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... Yes, it is. The RGB channels are mutually exclusive. But even if you don t look at it that way, the same principle applies. You are discarding
Math class joke
2003-05-28 by Peter Nelson
... don t work. You re a fine one to talk about the real world, since in your dozens of posts on this you have yet to cite even one IOTA of real-world evidence
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Peter Nelson
... and it ... only ... do you ... Bad analogy. Because the currency is discreet quanta (it s 25 or 5 or 10 - there s no 7.25 cent piece) but wavelenthgs
BW performance with MIS 7600 Archival Inkset (color) in a 2100
2003-05-28 by Daniel Staver
I just recieved my MIS 7600 Archival Inkset yesterday. These are color inks designed to replace the Ultrachromes. I bought them for the occasional color print,
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Peter Nelson
... But the practical question in this discussion is whether it s good enough. What Anthony has not established is that there is any PRACTICAL significance
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning
2003-05-28 by Seth Rossman
It gives the scanner a starting point for expected base density, the Color of Orange of the masking, etc. A profile, if you will. More accurate?? I
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Peter Nelson
... *not* ... But technically this isn t binning , because true binning is mutually exclusive. It s either in this bin or that one. In this case you have
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
I ll try again: You have a machine that collects money. You run it in your house and it manages to find $10.49. You also have a piggy bank that can accept
RE: [Digital BW] Very interesting article on evolution of Digital Printing
2003-05-28 by Alessandro Pardi
This list members opinion on the guy may also be affected (either way) by his following statement: In black-and-white, I have yet to see an inkjet print that
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by B. Alex Pettit Jr.
... I disagree on one point : The BW money machine collects all money, adding a few pennies or dimes, loosing a five, whatever, according to its spectral
print on glossy paper
2003-05-28 by parrellacorrado
I print B/W images with EPSON 1290, MIS inks and Piezography inks and Piezography plug-in. The results are quite good but I would like to print on glossy
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
Here s an example that might help: I have a machine that collects money. It provides one total for all coins, and one total for all bills. I have another
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... Just because the curve seems simple doesn t mean that the conversion is possible. Even a flat response cannot be simulated when filters are used. For
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, Spectral Sensitivity
2003-05-28 by B. Alex Pettit Jr.
Hello Anthony, The spectral response of BW film is a fairly simplistic curve that could be somewhat represented by three points . Here is one for PlusX125 (
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning
2003-05-28 by Alessandro Pardi
Hi Anthony, it s true that the default settings of Photoshop results in auto levels clipping at both ends, but as I wrote you can configure this tool so as not
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... You can set the white and black points visually by using the Curves dialog. Shift the curve way to the left, then set the black point. Then shift it way
RE: [Digital BW] Refilling Carts
2003-05-28 by Alessandro Pardi
Call me a coward, I never refill, just buy new virgin carts :-) I consider the few more bucks well worth the messy procedure and the risk of residual foam
RE: [Digital BW] Permajet papers
2003-05-28 by Alessandro Pardi
Thanks Daniel. Being in Italy, the real thing may be cheaper for me, too. Given that the two papers seem to have the same base and (reportedly) a different
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Scanning
2003-05-28 by Alessandro Pardi
Kevin, ... because it looks so compressed. I rely on numbers, i.e. open Photoshop levels and press AUTO. You can configure this tool not to clip anything, so
Re: Scanning Agfa Scala
2003-05-28 by Mitch Alland
... Yes. --Mitch/Paris
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... Which, incidentally, is the basis of message digest algorithms in cryptography.
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... Unless it s only red is sufficient to prove the point. And in any case, even with three values, you still have the same problem; see my trivial example
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... Sometimes. But there are important real-world cases that just don t work. You cannot simulate the results of shooting B&W through a filter by using any
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
You ve got it! That s exactly the problem, and that s why you can never simulate the response of one film or sensor using data from another film or sensor.
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... Yes, you are. The response of a B&W sensor to the original scene is a function of the complete curve present in the original scene. To simulate that
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... I have, again and again. I ve just tried again with Austin, although I m not optimistic. ... There is nothing vague about curves. ... You cannot
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... It doesn t require much precision. It s very easy to demonstrate. Take a picture in black and white using a narrow-band color filter. Those are not
Re: [Digital BW] Digital, film, scanning comparisons
2003-05-28 by Anthony Atkielski
... The frequency? But for every pixel in the original scene, there are multiple frequencies of light, each with its own intensity. Indeed, in most cases,
Re: [Digital BW] Very interesting article on evolution of Digital Printing
2003-05-28 by Ernst Dinkla
... From: Tom OConnell To: Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 7:46 AM Subject: [Digital BW]
Preserving pigment inkjet prints, cont'd
2003-05-28 by sandersm@aol.com
Last week, I posed several questions to the list regarding outgassing and UV protection for pigment inkjet (Epson 2200) prints mounted bare, without glass. No
Very interesting article on evolution of Digital Printing
2003-05-28 by Tom OConnell
http://www.mediastreet.com/pdf/photo_tech.pdf From the May/June copy of Photo Techniques...a must read by Mark Dubovoy. If you can get the hard copy, the