Re: Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: Plastic vs. glass was Diff between PhotoRag and German Etching
2002-08-20 by Martin Wesley
... From: Richard Sintchak To: Martin Wesley Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:57
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Re: [Digital BW] Dmax and drivers was Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by tboleyyh
Austin, it s just a fact of life. Different drviers, RIPs, whatever tend to create different max densities when sent 100%k. It s consistant, not just paper
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Robert Morrison
... Correction, Epson s goal is not to sell the most printers...but to make the most money...that s a very, very different thing. ... They were. Epson Europe
Re: oops...Blending old PiezoBW inks and MIS FS (Standard)
2002-08-20 by jrandall1149
All: Sorry for the mildly interesting but totally OT response. Monday morning confusion. The inkset densities are very similar to right on as
Re[2]: [Digital BW] Re: Plastic vs. glass was Diff between PhotoRag and German Etching
2002-08-20 by Richard Sintchak
Monday, August 19, 2002, 12:59:31 PM, Martin Wesley wrote: MW I am fortunate to have a local store called Tap Plastics that cuts it to MW size for me. The
RE: [Digital BW] Dmax and drivers was Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Austin Franklin
... Martin, Thank you for describing your experiment . That goes a long way towards understanding what s going on, for me. You didn t happen to look under a
Re: [Digital BW] Dmax and drivers was Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Martin Wesley
... From: Austin Franklin To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:45 PM Subject: RE:
RE: [Digital BW] Dmax and drivers was Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Austin Franklin
... Hi Martin, I assume you used the same inks with different drivers, right? If that is true, then, IMO, the driver is done poorly. Something is fishy here.
My 1160 + CIS going on Ebay
2002-08-20 by flyfishingusa2002
I hope this will not upset anybody but i thought I might give the members of this forum first shot at one of my 1160 s that I am about to put on EBAY. It has a
Dmax and drivers was Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Martin Wesley
... From: Austin Franklin To: Digital B&W Mailing List Sent: Monday, August 19,
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Martin Wesley
Mark, You left out: (1280) ($499 - $100 Rebate) X 124% = $495 Hmmm... Martin Wesley http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html ... From: marktuckerdotcom
RE: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Austin Franklin
... Hi David, My point is, there should be NO mix with dMax...it should only be using the one black position for ink, period! There also should be no
Re: Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Anton Young
Just noticed this blurb on the piezo site, which also might be apropos to ... I think the results I m getting with the Eye-One profiles are pretty darn good,
Re: Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Anton Young
My thoughts exactly Mark. These posts read like sales literature for this RIP. I guess what we are getting is just plain vanilla custom profiled neutral, and
RE: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Lloyd O'Daniel
Your love fest with Andrew s abilities notwithstanding, his opinion is simply just that...one man s opinion. I ve read at least two other informed opinions on
RE: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Lloyd O'Daniel
Do they allow you to buy into the maintenance contract at any time, or does it have to be in force continually? I m uncomfortable with the idea of paying $495/
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by lawrencetrek
On the other hand, I am sure there are many of us who will never use many of the features of this RIP. Some of us just want an excellent print driver for the
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by jeffm@gis.net
... Mark; Is that not how you price your commercial photography services ? :) I know That is how I do it! -Jeff
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by tboleyyh
... snip... ... I m told some of the controls advanced users would definitely want in a pro RIP are not available in the crrent Mac version. I don t claim to
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by marktuckerdotcom
... $495 for a desktop ... 9600 versions ... (9600) $4995 x 50% = $2497.50 (7600) $2995 x 50% = $1497.50 (2200) $699 x 71% = $496.29 The prices are roughly
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by thedigitaldog
... There is a LOT I don t like. I DO like the final output...a lot! Getting there needs a good deal of work. The GUI is kind of a mess. We really need OSX
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by thedigitaldog
... They have in the past (with scanners) so let s hope that the same can happen with printers. ... That s VERY possible! Many of us on the sidelines are
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by thedigitaldog
... Don t know. I don t see a reason for it. I do see a reason for $495 for a desktop version for the 2200 and the like. But I d hope the 7600 and 9600
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by jeffm@gis.net
Imageprint may be great and all that.... But I had read many accounts on the net that the Epson OEM inks vary from batch to batch depending on what country
Re: [Digital BW] Epson 2000P whats different ?
2002-08-20 by Ernst Dinkla
... From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: Re:
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by tboleyyh
... snip... ... With all due respect to someone who has contributed so much, I can t help but wonder how things would be if the contentious Mr. Eversole or the
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by marktuckerdotcom
... wrote: The forumla has worked with some 3rd party ... scanners. I immediately thought of the LaserSoft example, when I envisioned Epson
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Truman Prevatt
The real problem - I ve seen it a hundred times - is innovation typically does not flourish in a large vertically integrated company like Epson. I don t know
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by thedigitaldog
... True indeed. What we d like to see is the powers to be at Epson seeing a much, much better solution and instead of puting efforts into poor software (which
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Its often easy enough with a RIP to increase the amount of ink in a black mix, resulting in a darker black. Getting a sharp, non bleeding result with
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by thedigitaldog
... I totally agree. With this software (which ain t cheap), it makes the Epson the printer it should be. On another list, people are complaining that the
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by marktuckerdotcom
... wrote: In my experience the dmax ... higher than ... This shadow detail issue is the only nagging thing that I still have, after a
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Robert G. Morrison
... The dither isn t an issue in dmax. The issue is finding the optimum ink load for a paper...which all of us who have tried to profile epson inks
Re: [Digital BW] Original Piezo BW Inks
2002-08-20 by s_craig_02
I just noticed that Digital Art Supplies has the R9 piezo plug in upgrade for OS10 and also it looks like the BW Pro RIP is available for desktop printers..
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Robert G. Morrison
... Epson doesn t OWE you anything my friend! If you don t like what they offer then don t buy their product...its called the free market. They are free to
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Robert G. Morrison
... I m expecting them in the next couple of days...they were working on them last week. ... Support is excellent. No I m not paying the maintenance fee yet.
RE: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-20 by Lloyd O'Daniel
Understood. The price difference between the two also fits the kite - shuttle analogy. As for package printing etc., I couldn t care less. I don t do much of
RE: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-20 by Austin Franklin
... For the blackest black...well, NO MIX! Should be simply black only. ... Yeah, but what s YOUR name? Austin
Eclipse Satine
2002-08-20 by ungram
I m fairly new at all this and just starting to think about papers in addition to EAM for MIS VM. I got a box of Brightcube Satine Eclipse to try to duplicate
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by thedigitaldog
... can get out of the printer...right? Not necessarily. And how is the black created? What mix of inks is used? ... Well Dog spelled backwards is god!
[Digital BW] Re: Plastic vs. glass was Diff between PhotoRag and German Etching
2002-08-19 by ungram
I ve been using acrylic for years. If you need to clean the plastic try Novus Plastic Polish No. 1 available at plastic supply stores like Acme Plastics
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by qdfb
Andrew, I think that is a pretty big price hike over version 4. I hope you are wrong about the 7600 pricing. Epson have brought the price of their large
Re: [Digital BW] Technical Print Exchange
2002-08-19 by George Hartzell
I d be interested. I can offer an 1160 using MIS FS-N bulk inks via a CIS through the piezography driver. g.
RE: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by Austin Franklin
... Hi TDD, I don t understand your dMax comment. The black ink is the blackest you can get out of the printer...right? If you printed a patch of the darkest
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by thedigitaldog
... With something controlling the Epson at the ink level, you d be shocked at the difference. The dither and smoothness from IP and the Dmax (at least
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by thedigitaldog
... I m meeting with GretagMacbeth in 3 weeks at Seybold so it will be on my list of wants and needs.
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by thedigitaldog
... I m not sure. I think they are the same price.
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-19 by thedigitaldog
... GB and Image Print have nothing to do with each other. GB is a kludgy, poorly designed band-aid that hoses soft proofing and current ICC profiles. It s a
Re: [Digital BW] Getting perfect neutral prints from Epson 7600/9600 etc
2002-08-19 by qdfb
Andrew, Is there no price difference between the 7600 and 9600 versions? $2,500 seems way too much for the 7600. I was beginning to get interested, but at
Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
2002-08-19 by Martin Wesley
... From: Robert G. Morrison To: Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 12:26 PM Subject: Re: