Re: need advice
2002-08-08 by Bruce
on 8/7/2002 8:43 PM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at ... Truman, Your post got me to thinking. I never really liked warm toned prints in the
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[Digital BW] Re: Printing B&W with a laser printer
2002-08-08 by Sam A. McCandless
I believe some laser printers heat the paper more than others do and that some of the thicker cover stocks are laminated and might delaminate from the heat. So
[Digital BW] Re: Printing B&W with a laser printer
2002-08-08 by royvharrington
... I don t know exactly what the coatings are i.e. whether they can melt (that would be bad). But I do dry mount at lot of my prints and I ve never seen any
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-08 by Paul Roark
... In general, I would agree that the deeper the black, the better. However, I have yet to see a black ink darker than the MIS FS or VM black, or the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Printing B&W with a laser printer
2002-08-08 by david_bookbinder@sprynet.com
Thanks. I ve used thick paper, too. But I m looking for papers that will look and feel more like photographs. The inkjet papers are obvious candidates, but I
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-08 by Alan Zinn
... Truman, It s a tough call. I have friends who use the MIS or Generations inks and curve adjustments that are making superb prints on older Epson machines
Re: [Digital BW] What is it with Yahoo!
2002-08-08 by Martin Wesley
Tim, There seems to be considerable delays in requesting changes to your Group account and their taking effect. I suspect that Yahoo does not have their
To do digital or not, that is the question.
2002-08-08 by BMercerTX@aol.com
For the last week, the emails have been about so much tech stuff that is over my head, my delete button finger is getting a good work out. My questions are
What is it with Yahoo!
2002-08-08 by Tim Atherton
what gives with the usual crappy Yahoo service. I set my preference to nomail and the message still keep coming? I guess they ll just have to keep dealing with
RE: [Digital BW] Number of tones was Re: Do inkjets dither or not?
2002-08-08 by Austin Franklin
... Roy, cut the crap. I m not being evasive, this whole discussion is OFF TOPIC and simply just foolish, and I m not interested in playing your little game.
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-08 by sdmey4@aol.com
Your answer is really quite clear to me. You ve stated black and white is your preferance, So black and white it should be. The 2200 is primarily a color
Re: Printing B&W with a laser printer
2002-08-08 by royvharrington
... anyone ... thickness, ... Hi David, I ve used quite a few different papers in my laser printer. Never tried inkjet paper, but I have used paper as thick as
Re: [Digital BW] Piezo, RGB/MIS comparison, imperfections, smoothness, number of tones, etc.
2002-08-08 by Martin Wesley
Paul, A very excellent post! Helps to put things into perspective. I would especially like to second your point that none of the digital systems we are
Printing B&W with a laser printer
2002-08-08 by david_bookbinder@sprynet.com
For a particular set of images, I want to use the relatively crude graphic output of my laser printer. I am wondering if anyone knows of a paper (or papers)
Re: [Digital BW] 1280 Max Paper Thickness?
2002-08-08 by Stan McQueen
... I use the Hannemuhle German Etching 310 (sold as Royal Plush by MediaStreet.com) in my 1270 and my 1280. Interestingly, on the 1280 I have to help the
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-08 by Robert Morrison
The new Piezotones give far superior prints to my eye and spectrophotometer than the MIS inks. The MIS inks flutter around a very critical area of the dmax
Apology for Number of tones
2002-08-08 by royvharrington
... about ... forum ... another ... Yes, David, you re right. I apologize to the group for contributing to prolonging this wandering thread. I m done. In
Piezo, RGB/MIS comparison, imperfections, smoothness, number of tones, etc.
2002-08-08 by Paul Roark
Having returned from vacation and facing about 900 e-mails (including a very depressing Number of Tomes ) I decided to avoid getting involved in most.
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-08 by Truman Prevatt
That s why I waited for the 2200 hit the street. There is always the fear that both the MIS and Piezo are stopgap systems until the printer technology catches
RE: [Digital BW] The photograph as an accurate representation of reality
2002-08-08 by Alan Zinn
... Tim, Finally, someone who really understands photographs :-) The myth of photography is its reality. For me challenging the myth becomes a photographic
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-08 by Martin Wesley
... From: Mitch Alland To: Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: [Digital BW]
Re: Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-08 by Mitch Alland
For: Martin Wesley ... This seems to indicate that new profiles are called for. Or, in creating a new file, is it sufficient to
1280 vs 1160 for Piezography
2002-08-08 by Mitch Alland
For: Martin Wesley In one of the threads you referred to your use of the 1280 for Piezography. Is there any difference in Pieazography print quality from the
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-07 by Martin Wesley
Truman, Comparing the two system, MIS-VM with separation curves and PiezoTone inks with the Piezo driver, I think that you can get excellent results either
Re: [Digital BW] 1280 Max Paper Thickness?
2002-08-07 by J Greer
All the answers I ve gotten tell me I ll have no problem. Excellent! Thanks, everyone. Jeff Greer
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-07 by Jerry Olson
Quality is the same. Get the MIS VM inkset. MUCH cheaper than the piezo route. Jerry
Re: [Digital BW] need advice
2002-08-07 by Ken Carney
Truman, I have tried the MIS hextone VM inks and couldn t get them to work for me. The tonal range (dynamic range) just wasn t there compared to the Epson OEM
RE: [Digital BW] The photograph as an accurate representation of reality
2002-08-07 by Karl Wolz
I ve discussed this many time in other forums - the compression of four dimensions (in my mind, time is the fourth dimension, btw) into two, plus the removal
1280 Max Paper Thickness?
2002-08-07 by Thomas Keesling
Jeff Greer asked: Jeff, I ve used the Hahnemuhle 308 in
need advice
2002-08-07 by Truman Prevatt
I am ready to get a printer. I was waiting to see what happened with the 2200, to make the decision. It seems that the 2200 is not a good printer for someone
Re: [Digital BW] Number of tones was Re: Do inkjets dither or not?
2002-08-07 by Moreno Polloni
... It can be hazardous too. I think I m getting RSI from deleting the multitude of messages from this thread.
Re: [Digital BW] PT Selinium compared to. MIS FS-N
2002-08-07 by Robert Morrison
The Selenium inks have an eggplant undertone as opposed to the blue undertone of the FS-N s to my eye. I m getting on average 0.15 greater dmax with the
Re: [Digital BW] Number of tones was Re: Do inkjets dither or not?
2002-08-07 by david_bookbinder@sprynet.com
I am wondering whether this contest between Roy and Austin about how is the best programmer needs to be part of a discussion forum on printing black and white
RE: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by Frank Mares
I ve been using both the ST & WN inks on 2 1280 s . The step wedge prints on both are normal, albeit different as are the prints of both. I really the like the
RE: [Digital BW] 1280 Max Paper Thickness?
2002-08-07 by Frank Mares
I have 2 1280 s one with Piezotone WN 7 the other with Selenium. I use primarily Photo rag 308gm/m2 but have used Orwell and Wells River without feeding
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by Lawrence Smith
... Bob, Please don t hold of your purchase on my account. Not all of my images don t look right, only some of them. I m trying to determine what the
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by Bob Frost
Damn, I was just about to order a Piezotone setup for my 1290. Back to the drawing-board. Bob Frost. ... From: Lawrence Smith ...
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by Lawrence Smith
... Point well taken. I m not trying to slam IJM. I m just pointing out that some images printed with the original inks looked beautiful and reprinted with
PT Selinium compared to. MIS FS-N
2002-08-07 by rich8155
Hello all, Although I m fairly new at this I am getting some wonderful results and am quite happy. After using MIS FS carts I
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by iamsethfriedman
For further clarification, these prints are all from an Epson 860, version 6.04 on Windows 2000. The Selenium inkset was the first ink used in the printer, and
Re: [Digital BW] Number of tones was Re: Do inkjets dither or not?
2002-08-07 by David Dyer-Bennet
... Heh. I d do the arithmetic in 32-bit and then test if the result exceeded the 16-bit unsigned max and chop it if it did :-). Unless hardware or
[Digital BW] Number of tones was Re: Do inkjets dither or not?
2002-08-07 by royvharrington
... the ... compilers ... know ... going ... to ... numbers ... number if ... programmers ... of choice ... output of ... routine in ... So, Austin, Jon Cone
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by iamsethfriedman
I have had good luck with Legion Photo Matte, Photo Rag, and Museo. Concorde Rag and EAM have been okay. What I have seen is not so much a break in the tones,
RE: [Digital BW] Number of tones was Re: Do inkjets dither or not?
2002-08-07 by Austin Franklin
... Roy, you re being silly. The world doesn t work that way. Good programmers understand their tools, and typically know what their C compiler of choice is
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by Martin Wesley
... From: Lawrence Smith To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint yahoogroups.com Sent:
Re: [Digital BW] 1280 Max Paper Thickness?
2002-08-07 by janishilesh
I also use thick papers on the 1280, with no problems - well almost no problems. I commonly print on 13 x 19 papers, with image size of 12.25 x 18.25, to fit
Re: [Digital BW] 1280 Max Paper Thickness?
2002-08-07 by Jerry Olson
I have a 1280 and have had no problems with the papers you mention going through the printer. Jerry
Re: PiezoTones: Are they ready for prime time ?
2002-08-07 by janishilesh
Lawrence, You know there is one option that does not get discussed much. This the FS-E inks from MIS. These inks can be used with the Epson driver, which will
PiezoTones: Are they ready for prime time ?
2002-08-07 by lawrencetrek
Microbanding, clogging, and now clipping ... As I debate making an investment into a new 1280 printer for PiezoTones carts, some of you guys are continuing to
Re: [Digital BW] Piezotone clipping?
2002-08-07 by Lawrence Smith
... I called last week and spoke to someone about it. They told me that it was due to the increased d-max of the new black. All well and good but the prints