Separation curves and the histogram
2001-08-14 by Todd Flashner
I m like the atheist who prays to God - just in case. I m not a perfect-histogram monger, but I do like to know the deal, in case I change my mind later.
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for Andy re: digital print exhibition Was: Digest Number 36
2001-08-14 by Tim Spragens
Anton Young on the PiezoBW list mentioned: As you may or may not know, the Brooklyn Museum of Art is having a Digital Printmaking show. It s been up since
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Image Histograms Destroyed
2001-08-14 by Todd Flashner
... When I was looking at your print of this image last evening I wondered if it s possible that whatever occurrence you experience with the sky area of this
Re: for Andy re: digital print exhibition Was: Digest Number 36
2001-08-14 by mojogroup@yahoo.com
... is ... Here is the url for the museum: http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/digital/ I ll definitely check that out as well as any other suggestions. Andy
Re: converting grayscale image to 4-color CIS-MIS
2001-08-14 by antonisphoto@yahoo.com
Richard, You mention CMYK, but if you are using an Epson driver without a RIP, you only need go to RGB. The Epson driver takes the RGB (which it thinks is real
Re: [Digital BW] Diagnosis
2001-08-14 by Tim Spragens
Is this a childhood desease? - Tim ... -- Tim Spragens http://www.borderless-photos.com
Any Digital BW On Display in NYC? was Digest Number 36
2001-08-14 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Any New Yorkers out there who can point Andy towards a show of digital B&W prints? I seem to recall that there were a couple of exhibits of Piezo prints on
[Digital BW] Re: Piezo v. MIS / color readings at 25% intervals.
2001-08-14 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Paul, Thanks for the info! Martin ... strip, so it ... different. ... (snip earlier)
Re: [Digital BW] Entry Level Printer-1280
2001-08-14 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Andre, I m still waiting to receive the CIS and MIS inks and then I need to learn the new workflow. I will keep you posted as I go through the process. I don t
Re: Image Histograms Destroyed
2001-08-14 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Bernd, To give you some idea of how bad a histogram can look and still provide a good print I have uploaded an image of three histograms to the Files section
Re: [Digital BW] Legion Photo Matte, the "acid " Test
2001-08-14 by Todd Flashner
... The cool whiteness of it (as described by Martin) scares me. I can t look at the Conetech Matte, for instance. I prefer something between Hahnemuhle s
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Todd Flashner
... So in the case of using Paul s method, since his separation curves are designed around EAM, you might not use a custom gamma space when using that
Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Dan Culbertson
... Hi Tyler, The only problem is that the only way you can do that is to find the gamma of the printer/ink/paper and stay in that space forever. If you
Re: [Digital BW] Legion Photo Matte, the "acid " Test
2001-08-14 by Jerry Olson
Martin, media street has better prices than the link you mention. Jerry They just started carrying Photo Matte. it should be on their site today.
converting grayscale image to 4-color CIS
2001-08-14 by RHRohlfing@aol.com
Hello all, It s funny, I think I understand every single word that is discussed in this group. However, I can only understand the concepts a small portion of
Re: Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Dan Culbertson
... The answer is Yes -- now go get some *good* vodka to celebrate! Dan
Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Tyler Boley
... ertson ... the gamma ... change any ... snip... Exactly. That s what I meant. What you are calling the gamma of a printer/paper/ink combo is
Re: [Digital BW] Digest Number 36
2001-08-14 by Andy Levin
Martin: Thanks for the suggestions....the spirit of experimentation here would have appealed to Gene Smith and Edward Weston, for certain. Many of the concepts
Piezo users paper & printers
2001-08-14 by Paul Roark
I was part of that 31 print exchange group on the Piezo list. (Lots of really nice shots there.) I thought it would be interesting to see what paper and
[Digital BW] Re: Piezo v. MIS / color readings at 25% intervals.
2001-08-14 by Paul Roark
Martin, ... Actually, I think the selected area was 20% - 80% on the test strip, so it was a larger area. However, the 50% patch should not be that different.
Legion Photo Matte, the "acid " Test
2001-08-14 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Hi! Picked up a package of Legion Photo Matte locally today. First thing I did, after noting the smoooooth surface, was to check it with my pH pens. Front:
Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Dan Culbertson
... Never lose a bit if you can help it. :-) No magic here, my multichannel method avoids losing bits simply by going around the gamma change from 1.8
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Spectratones and Arches Brite White Hot Press
2001-08-14 by Peter Lindman
Saw this but you ve propbably already been there: http://www.twinrocker.com/pstocked.htm
Diagnosis
2001-08-14 by Stephen Kundell, MD
Dan, Your in luck. As a developmental pediatrician, I actually think your diagnosis is more consistent with Piezo-Compulsive Disorder, but since we all
[Digital BW] Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Tyler Boley
... snip... ... adjustment is ... Todd, I don t mean to butt in, but why even fool with it? Why not simply have a workflow from scan to print that leaves the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-14 by Todd Flashner
... Dan, you are so good simply because you, more than anyone else, really give a bit.... Okay, this gamma stuff is starting to make some sense. The only thing
Re:Piezo v. MIS / color readings / RGBvsHSB
2001-08-14 by Dan Culbertson
... I must have missed the original post since I don t know what this and the clip that preceded it refers to. But if it is a way to measure the color
Re: [Digital BW] Entry Level Printer-1280
2001-08-14 by Andre Vallejo
... Do you have anything printed in it and then scanned and posted somewhere? I d like to see something from it...
Re:Piezo v. MIS / color readings / RGBvsHSB
2001-08-13 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Dan, Actually I should have addressed my question to Paul, who in message #635, gave some RGB values for the 50% patch on Piezo and MIS inks which Antonis
Spectrocam dot gain readings
2001-08-13 by Tyler Boley
The Spectrocam software will give dot gain readings for any CMYK ink set. The Spectrocam Pro software will give the same as well as custom inks, in other
Re: [Digital BW] Entry Level Printer
2001-08-13 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Andy, You can change that appears on the list under Author by simply changing the primary e-mail address you set up in your Yahoo account. Not sure how Todd
Re: [Digital BW] Image Histograms Destroyed
2001-08-13 by Tim Spragens
The likelihood that you d see the results of the combed histogram in your prints from such a minor change I think would be unlikely, even if you are seeing it
Re: [Digital BW] Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-13 by Tim Spragens
... I haven t. I went out shooting this afternoon and am now developing film. As mentioned later in the thread, Dan s approach would work. I am curious what
Re: [Digital BW] Re:Convert to RGB caution-gamma issues
2001-08-13 by Tim Spragens
Sorry for the shorthand. Europe Prepress Defaults are: RGB: Adobe RGB (1998) CMYK: Euroscale Coated v2 Gray: Dot Gain 15% Spot: Dot Gain 15% ... -- Tim
Re: [Digital BW] Image Histograms Destroyed
2001-08-13 by Jerry Olson
I don t think that s normal, but it s a good case for always scanning in Hi bit and doing as much as you can there. I think but am not certain that the next
Image Histograms Destroyed
2001-08-13 by ruhrfoto@yahoo.de
Fellows, if I open an image file in PS 5.5 or 6.01, which I saved in 8 bit grayscale modus before and proced only a little curve tweaking, for instance
[Digital BW] Entry Level Printer
2001-08-13 by Paul Roark
Andy, ... ... I use an Epson 1160 for both color and B&W. I have B&W and color pigmented inksets in CISs and also use a lot of individual cartridges that I ve
Re: [Digital BW] Entry Level Printer
2001-08-13 by mojogroup@yahoo.com
... the ... named ... Maybe I should change it too mojography......LOL Now how about some printer suggestions, forget the color. Andy
Re: [Digital BW] Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-13 by Todd Flashner
... Dan knows his bits. Thanks Martin, Tim and Dan. Todd
Re: [Digital BW] Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-13 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Todd, I did the same thing as Tim, created a new Photoshop grayscale file (Gray Gamma 2.2) 2000 x 2000 pixels and filled it edge-to-edge with a gradient. I
Re: Entry Level Printer
2001-08-13 by antonisphoto@yahoo.com
Andy, part of the reason for establishing this group is that it s very difficult to get satisfactory bw with a regular color printer. Most people who want good
Re: [Digital BW] Entry Level Printer
2001-08-13 by Todd Flashner
... Hey, Mojo is a pretty good name if you ask me. ;-) Todd I got my Mojo rising.......
Entry Level Printer
2001-08-13 by mojogroup@yahoo.com
Can someone suggest an entry level printer that I can start to do some b.w (and preferably color too) digital work on? I just want to get a feel for these
Re:Convert to RGB caution-gamma issues
2001-08-13 by antonisphoto@yahoo.com
Tim (and Martin, Peter, Todd), Dan gave us a pretty good answer in message 170. If you discuss this further, based on the - very useful - illustration of the
Re: [Digital BW] Paper choices - a reminder
2001-08-13 by antonisphoto@yahoo.com
Tim, we have a Hahnemuehle name equivalence list in our Files area. The problem with the Database function that Yahoo offers for the list is the limit of 10
Re: [Digital BW] Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-13 by Todd Flashner
... While we ve got Tim working..... Have you tried a Grayscale Lab RGB conversion, and Dan s multi-channel approach? ;-) Todd
Re: [Digital BW] Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-13 by mwesley250@earthlink.net
Tim, Your Histogram images are now in teh File section of the group homepage in the folder Message Related Files and the file description contains the # of
Re: [Digital BW] Paper choices - a reminder
2001-08-13 by Tim Spragens
... An equivalent or rebrand field would be helpful. I, among many, get lost in the paper names. Harder to do would be something like same paper as __ but
Re: [Digital BW] Developing RAW scans: for Martin
2001-08-13 by Tim Spragens
... No, you were happy with your tree, even with the combing, though Bruce s tip may have helped to prevent the combing nonetheless, and lessen problems like
Re: [Digital BW] Convert to RGB caution
2001-08-13 by Tim Spragens
... I m not Johnny, but this is what I see (soon to be in the images section of the list): http://www.borderless-photos.com/temp/histos.gif Two surprises here,