Re: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-09 by Steve Clark
It seems you could test it by creating an RGB document with solid 100% Red, Green and Blue bands that do not overlap and then do Mode Greyscale. Then
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Re: UT-R18
2009-01-09 by hp9180profile
... I should probably abandon the 1800 and get a 1400. I am a bit obstinate though and like to bang on with these things until all hope is lost. It is often
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-09 by hp9180profile
... almost ... I ... Ditto that Bob, changing carts and if I leave the printer unused for a few days are usually the sources of my clogs (or airlocks or
Re: Out of date MIS (UT-3D) inks; still usable?
2009-01-09 by guy_staley
... Thanks Paul. I guess I can just keep an eye on things with PrintFix Pro, and if things begin to drift I ll know it s time to dispose of the inks,
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-09 by Bob Marsolais
I must say the 1800 has been a rather labor intensive printer for me also. I find that once I get it printing good, as long as I print frequently enough, it
Eboni 6 1400 tone
2009-01-09 by Gary Wagner
Paul, I have been using Eboni 6 on my Epson 1400 and the results have been looking very good. When I print on Premier Art Smooth BW the tone is very neutral
Re: [Digital BW] DSLR Optics -- slightly OT
2009-01-09 by Michael King
If you are interested in finding out more about these Zeiss lenses real world performance, check out Lloyd blog (free) and Zeiss report ($). He is one of the
Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by Louis Dina
... You re welcome. Glad it was clear. Not so sure that the 30/60/10 balance is correct, even though it has circulated in many forums and become widely
Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by outdoornm
Thank you, Lou, What you say, makes sense. I could see the diff between direct grayscaling and running 100% red in the channel mixer, but I thought that was
DSLR Optics -- slightly OT
2009-01-08 by pr_roark
This is a bit OT. ... The sharpness information on some of the Zeiss optics are very good indeed. While the new ZE series for Canon are not out, at least for
Re: Out of date MIS (UT-3D) inks; still usable?
2009-01-08 by pr_roark
... I would think so. Agitate them -- and all pigments -- occassionally to keep them suspended. ... I m not 100% sure, but I think they might start to
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by Louis Dina
... given might ... Eric, I suspect you are right. I opened an sRGB color image in PSCS2 and made three duplicates. The first I converted to grayscale
RE: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by Eric Neilsen
I have done a bit more research on this and I think that the %s given might be old hat. The speed at which information changes from books, articles, even
Out of date MIS (UT-3D) inks; still usable?
2009-01-08 by guy_staley
I have a set of UT-3D inks that are have an expiry of 11-17-2008. Are these still usable? What happens to the inks when they are out-dated? I d like to use the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by Dana H. Myers
... According to _mastering black and white digital photography_ ( http://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Black-White-Digital-Photography/dp/1579907075 ), Photoshop
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by pr_roark
... With my older DSLR, the blue channel was very noisy. With the new Canon 5D2, for at least some lenses, blue is sharper and noise free, at least outside
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by Louis Dina
Lincoln, Channel Mixer simply defaults to 100% of the red channel upon opening, but that doesn t mean it is the default B&W conversion formula for Photoshop.
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-08 by outdoornm
John, If that is true, why don t you see those values in the channel mixer of a directly grayscaled image? If you directly grayscale an image
Re: Newbie Question
2009-01-08 by jhd622005
... 14 ... addition ... TD I would look for a local print shop that does B&W prints. Also, tell your son to ALWAYS shoot color and convert to B&W post process.
[Digital BW] Re: anyone using BO prints for National Register applications?
2009-01-07 by Paul Whiting
Sorry, Eric, I put a k on your name in that last post!
Re: anyone using BO prints for National Register applications?
2009-01-07 by Paul Whiting
Thanks, Eric and Paul, Erick: That s a good suggestion, but I guess I know the ground here a little better so will probably stick with this forum for now. ...
Re: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-07 by Ernst Dinkla
... That s what I recall of the Vuescan default settings for the greyscale scan mode, the green dominant in the mix. -- Met vriendelijke groeten, Ernst
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-07 by pr_roark
... I m sort of in the same boat. I just don t think the 1800 is worth the effort. The 1400 is so good with MIS ink -- no banding or clogging with at least
Re: anyone using BO prints for National Register applications?
2009-01-07 by pr_roark
Hi Paul, ... Most of the techniques used by forum members should easily meet this standard. It would be interesting to see what they require. With today s
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-07 by hp9180profile
... Hi Bob and Paul, I am interested in this thread as I am going through a similar exercise at the moment. My objective is a smooth printing BW neutral (but
RE: [Digital BW] Re: anyone using BO prints for National Register applications?
2009-01-07 by Eric Neilsen
Paul, I d contact Jon Cone, and others in the field of selling the inks and simply ask for the data. You should be able to show the 75 year / Wilhlem /
Re: anyone using BO prints for National Register applications?
2009-01-07 by Paul Whiting
Perhaps I should ve titled this thread 100% Carbon Pigment Printing .
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-07 by John Vitollo
... Photoshop s default grayscale conversion is: R-30% G-60% B-10%
RE: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-07 by Eric Neilsen
Tyler, I asked my friend Dan Burkholder and here is his reply, Hey Eric, I asked Julianne Kost of Adobe that very question a few years ago and can t find her
anyone using BO prints for National Register applications?
2009-01-07 by Paul Whiting
Seems to me this was discussed here a while back, but since the technology is moving so rapidly perhaps an update is in order. I ve been working with some
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-07 by Tyler Boley
hey folks, it s well documented what the RGB combo is they use for straight grayscale conversion, I can t recall what it is though, it s a mix. I m sure
RE: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-07 by Eric Neilsen
Lincoln, I understand were not arguing, just stating observations. When I did my test of the screen capture done two ways; 1) using the convert to gray and
Re: 3MK vs. EB6-YK profiles question (for Paul?)
2009-01-06 by pr_roark
Ken, ... Yes, particularly on the 1800, which banded too much to make a smooth single black only print. My 1400 does not band significantly, so it s not as
[Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-06 by outdoornm
Eric, I m not arguing that direct grayscaling is the best method. I am just stating what the default is in my CS2. If you do the check I mentioned it will
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-06 by pr_roark
... ... If you have UT2 inks still, you have the sepia and UT-C (it was the dark warm gray midtone in UT2 -- UT2-M). ... So, you re going with the warm PK for
Re: [Digital BW] Newbie Question
2009-01-06 by Le Globe Trotteur
If I need a silver print on RC paper, I use Mpix.com. If i want a print on Fiber paper, I use my darkroom. If you email your B&W to mpix and tell them not to
3MK vs. EB6-YK profiles question (for Paul?)
2009-01-06 by kwalsh74
Wow, pretty amazing group here, have been lurking the archives for a few days waiting for my ink and carts to show up for an R280 that I ll be setting up for
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-06 by Bob Marsolais
Gents, One of my goals is to use MIS 1800 inks as much as possible. Otherwise, with the exception of the blacks, they don t get used up real fast and I want
RE: [Digital BW] Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-06 by E Neilsen
If you have PS CS3 or CS4 why would you even consider just hitting mode grayscale when you could convert to B&W with image adjustment B&W complete with preset
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-06 by pr_roark
Bob, ... I think Roger is right; the 1800 PK is K4-PK. It s 100% carbon, not a blended, neutralized PK. ... I think the main thing that has distinguished the
Re: [Digital BW] Newbie Question
2009-01-06 by Roger
I think the key is to find a place that is able to print a fairly neutral B&W (watch for green or magenta color casts) consistently. Costco use Fuji Frontier
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-06 by Roger
I think the MIS K4 PK is the same as the R1800 PK and different than the older MISPRO PK or the UTR2 one I use. I think the PKs are carbon blended with color
RE: [Digital BW] Newbie Question
2009-01-06 by Mike Johnston
An option might be print at Costco. I get good results and a reasonable price. Mike J. ... From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Re: [Digital BW] Newbie Question
2009-01-05 by ann clancy
how many prints does he need, and how quickly does he need them? what is your budget? not to step on his budding interest in learning to do black and white
Re: Newbie Question
2009-01-05 by Jules
The epson 3800 will do a superb job. No printer that i know of is dedicated to b&w as you need all the colour inks to print b&w, hence they are always colour
Re: B+W Scans from RGB Scanners
2009-01-05 by Jules
I agree. Don t do the conversion with the scanner as it s software is poor compared to the ways in which PhotoShop can convert. Scan in full colour and import
Re: UT-R18
2009-01-05 by Bob Marsolais
Paul and Roger, thanks for your responses. Paul, I guess I was thinking so much along the lines of the 1800 and 3MK that I forgot about the UT14 inks. I read
Newbie Question
2009-01-05 by tduncaneu
First, I apologize for the basic question but I am trying to help my 14 year-old son who has decided to start shooting digital B&W in addition to color. We
Re: LCD Monitor Calibration - OT
2009-01-05 by Louis Dina
Andre: If you have a Samsung Synchmaster, adjustments made to color, contrast, gamma and everything else using the controls on the monitor itself (except the
Re: epson 3800 printer
2009-01-05 by Dean Daniels
MARK- I am looking for a ink-jet digital alternative for line art film negatives. Currently get negatives from Linotronic output which I believe runs a