Re: [Digital BW] Re: Epson's court victory
2007-11-03 by Matt Haber
John, as a reminder, Epson s recycling program appears to simply gather the carts and send them to an incinerator. All municipal recycling programs that I am
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2007-11-03 by Matt Haber
John, as a reminder, Epson s recycling program appears to simply gather the carts and send them to an incinerator. All municipal recycling programs that I am
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
... And yet the MSDSs look essentially the same. They claim UC is completely soluble. ... That s one of the questions I have. Does it really contain dyes --
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
Does puncturing the backflow valve affect performance? My general impression was that the pressurized carts were an improvement in some way over the others.
2007-11-03 by Editor, P.O.V. Image Service
... You need to move fast... TRIPS and the Uruguay Round of GATT (1994) mean the ruling may have some pretty direct and unhappy implications for Europe if it
2007-11-03 by Jon Cone
You are not affected by this. 3000, 4000, 4800, 7000, 7500, 7600, 7800, 9000, 9500, 9600, 9800, 10000 and 10600 which we supply product for are not affected in
2007-11-03 by Ernst Dinkla
... No problem. The 9800,7800 and 10000 carts share the same back flow valve but the whole spring valve, back flow valve assembly differs a bit in size. The
2007-11-03 by john dean
Yes, I do have all the instructions and jpeg picture documentation that you so kindly sent me last year. I will post all of this info on the Large Format list
2007-11-03 by Ernst Dinkla
... I have no 3800 but isn t the chip resetting not the first hurdle to take ? Didn t follow the messages on that subject but I believe the resetters that
2007-11-03 by John
Paul, I hope this may be of some use to you. This is an extract from Epson’s “Dye” and “Pigment” inks MSDS for the Epson Stylus 1400. Look at the
2007-11-03 by john dean
I think they just had to live with the small outfits for a long time because they were niche markets for people like us. But now Canon and HP are really
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
... In policy decisions everything goes into the mix, even if informally. Everyone knows that, recycling programs notwithstanding, many will just trash the
2007-11-03 by Paul D. DeRocco
... About 1% of that post was on-topic. The other 99% was BDS. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@ix.netcom.com
2007-11-03 by James Irelan
... I was, and now you aren t. It was on topic (the topic being what could be done by writing a letter) and what would likely be Bush s reaction to such a
2007-11-03 by john dean
I would assume that any petition or public statement by end users should stress the environmental implications of tossing used carts into the landfill....
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
MIS PK is very archival. It’s also quite warm. The relatively neutral tone of Eboni is one of it’s major attractions and what sets it apart from
2007-11-03 by Native Texan Photographer
... well, let me put my minor two-cents into this discussion. Denise is correct, carts can be ordered via Canada (or Mexico, or Taiwan, or Australia) as well
2007-11-03 by john dean
That s the best thing I ve heard all week. We do have time for a petition of sorts, along with phone calls to, emails to media outlets ( that aren t owned by
2007-11-03 by colingruk
Prompted by Paul Roark’s 3MK inkset for the Epson r1800, I have just ordered this printer, which I hope to get at the end of the coming week. I am also
2007-11-03 by the_des_bois
Prohibition once again? :-) Canada is your friend. I would order carts for you anytime! Lol... Denis from Canada
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
... If we could refill 3800 and up carts, we would be probably be fine. I m not sure where the cross-over is between the free riding on the loss leaders and
2007-11-03 by flyflightdeck
So does that mean don t panick, that if all the currently available empty carts get snatched up for the 4800 that there will be other alternatives for using
2007-11-03 by CDTobie@aol.com
... This is hardly a statement that Epson would make themselves. Its been pointed out by others to explain Epson s marketing model (such as Harald Johnson in
2007-11-03 by Robert W. Shearer
The truth is, neither political party is worth a damn. Bush sells out to big business and the Clintons sell out to the Chinese. We need a new political party.
2007-11-03 by john dean
Yea, and and you have to factor in all the feminine napkins you have to buy to refill those waste tanks :-). Man. Didn t know you could refill the 9600 carts.
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
... There some precedent for using the antitrust laws to attack the predatory use of patents. When I was at the FTC, such an action against Xerox is what
2007-11-03 by john kelly
Presumably this will move some users toward HP, where B&W OEM visual qualities are said to be better on some papers in some respects... But I d have to feel
2007-11-03 by Paul Grant
Frank Well said Paul ... From: Frank Jay To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: 11/3/2007 6:14 AM Subject: [Digital
2007-11-03 by Frank Jay
Name calling is never pertinent...didn t you go to kindergarten. Talk the politics, not the person. Frank Mitch Greenwald wrote: Whether or
2007-11-03 by skefford_1
... wrote: ... I would hope that the EU has more backbone to stand up to this type of monopoly action. Ask MS about it. Steve
2007-11-03 by Frank Jay
Jon s point is a valid one. Our or Chinese engineers will figure out something or someone will reingeneer the piece that houses the ink and transports (no clue
2007-11-03 by Mitch Greenwald
Whether or not one agrees with the assessment of Bush s personal qualities (I personally do agree), it is indisuptable that he has a strong penchant for big
2007-11-03 by Frank Jay
All it takes to ruin a well written email is the mudslinging about the president. It diminishes the source of the thought. If he is so dumb, why is he
2007-11-03 by Frank Jay
thanks Jon, I appreciate the reply. I can see the zero environmental footprint need up in that beautiful state. Frank in NJ Jon Cone
2007-11-03 by Mark Savoia
Why? Epson makes $ selling ink, not printers. Mark ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-11-03 by Lars Molte Jakobsen
Jon, I don’t know about the marketing topography of printers, but it seems that this is not about that small segment that uses BW non-Epson inks. Why not
2007-11-03 by Ernst Dinkla
... US consumers think it is better organised in the EU. The only thing I know about EU ruling is that the environmental aspect of cartridges has been heavily
2007-11-03 by Joost Horsten
Of course Epson s recent US court victory does not apply to Europe, where I m based (Netherlands). But it would be naive to think it has no effect. Actually I
2007-11-03 by Drew Tait
I was wondering if anyone had the files from Epson AVASYS site http://www.avasys.jp/english/linux_e/dl_scan.html for the R220. It seems that the site has been
2007-11-03 by Bob Frost
... I have, but on the Epson_printers list! Bob Frost. ... From: Paul D. DeRocco
2007-11-03 by Bob Frost
... Well, Epson s consolidated accounts seem to show they made a loss in the 12 months ending Mar 31st 2007. No wonder they want to stop their cartridge
2007-11-03 by James Irelan
This thing about carts and Epson... I can think of examples of rights on both sides of the question. Yes, Epson has the right to protect its R&D investment.
2007-11-03 by Joost Horsten
This triggers another line of argumentation to me. We re all concerned here with high quality archival printing, something color ink sets can t achieve to the
2007-11-03 by Jon Cone
Chris, I can tell you that the biggest silver lining in something like this is that finally a very clear guidebook has been written by a judicial body that
2007-11-03 by Jon Cone
Paul, Its on their MSDS. The copy we have gives a 3% measure to proprietary dyes and pigments. Please email me off list with your fax#, although EPSON may have
2007-11-03 by Paul D. DeRocco
... What I don t understand is why no one has mentioned the possibility of licensing from Epson. I would think they d be willing to to do that for some
2007-11-03 by pglombick
... you don t like that MOVE!!! ... Don t be so damn naive. Politics affect every aspect of our lives. This is another example of big business affecting
2007-11-03 by Paul Roark
Hi Jon, ... I ve never seen this. At http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/Supportmsdsmain.jsp? Epson routinely uses the phrase proprietary dyes and
2007-11-03 by pglombick
... it gains ... they ... go ... fast for ... That s not going to happen. Companies large enough to develop and market printers have no economic interest in
2007-11-03 by Kip Babington
I don t know about the 3800 carts, but I have the impression that for the smaller printers Epson has spent a FORTUNE engineering them so that they CANNOT be
2007-11-03 by Jon Cone
Paul, I remember something else happening a couple years ago or maybe last year that critics said would turn ordinary citizens into smugglers. Not our industry