Re: K3 archival and alternatives
2007-08-20 by Tyler Boley
Tim, Paul recently told me something about the uniqueness of their molecular structure... er somethin ... it went right over my head. It is apparently
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Actually I rather like the Cone monochrome inksets. And HP has done a lot towards making simple neutral printing possible. I find it all very interesting,
Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Tim Atherton
Although I m guessing that HP probably takes the Cone route and they are Carbon Pigment mixed with other pigments for tint?
Re: K3 archival and alternatives
2007-08-20 by Tim Atherton
Do we know how HP is actutally making their blacks/greys cooler (if indeed they are)? There s warm carbon and there s neutral to cool carbon, as anyone who s
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Bruce Watson
Nicely said Mr. Boley. -- Bruce Watson
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thinking about going the K7 route with my Epson 2400
2007-08-20 by Sarah Thompson
... I shoot nearly all B&W actually, so this approach works well for me. Most of my photography is done with my Bronica system with a Megavision monochrome
[Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Tyler Boley
Eric, first of all I agree with David that the HP carbon inks are not neutral, nor uniform down the scale. On the other hand, I don t find that in and of
Tuning QTR's droplette size?
2007-08-20 by Eric Miner
Hello, I posted this in the QTR group but have not gotten any input. I m hoping for some here. Thanks, Eric
Re: Thinking about going the K7 route with my Epson 2400
2007-08-20 by john dean
Sarah, The K7 is effortless and beautiful with any of these Epson printers, even the 6 channel machines. I ve been doing this stuff since the very first days
[Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Tyler Boley
... wrote: ... ... additionally, the only published 3rd party tests we ve seen in recent years bears this out. All of Cone s Piezotone
Thinking about going the K7 route with my Epson 2400
2007-08-20 by Sarah Thompson
Hi all, I ve been using the Ultrachrome K3 ink set with my r2400 for some time now, but I m getting increasingly frustrated with the difficulty of getting my
[Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Eric Chan
Granted the HP solution will fade, of course, but again, the reason I brought it up is because the WIR tests are indicating an improvement in longevity
[Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by john dean
Well that certainly is the first time I ve heard of HP black inks being warm on anything! If that s so I m all for it and want to try it out even more. Mixing
Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-20 by David
Paul, et al, thanks for this info. I like the idea of being about to have both color and b/w carbon inkset in one printer, and making only matte is really no
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Mixing in color ink, is mixing in color ink. It will fade the same, no matter what head it came out through or what tank it came from. It may simplify the
[Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by john dean
That is exactly right. With the Vivera inks you are not using color inks in the print driver to fill in the tonal gaps and to cool off the black inks. With the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by CDTobie@aol.com
... Yes, results are good, but the four blacks claim, while technically true, leans more towards marketing ploy than an actual output improvement, which is
RE: [Digital BW] Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayent
2007-08-20 by Paul Roark
These sprays all decrease the dmax on matte papers. The Lascaux Fixativ does it the least, but it also has no UV blocker. So, for just physical protection
[Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Eric Chan
The reason I suggested the HP Z series is that the current feedback I ve heard from users who have compared it to the competing OEM solutions (Canon Lucia and
Re: [Digital BW] Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayent
2007-08-20 by Edward Wiseman
Paul.. It will give you some abrasion protection . but no water protection....I ts also MUCH harder to get an even coat with the Krylon..A protective mask is
Re: [Digital BW] Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayent
2007-08-20 by paulmwhiting
Thanks, Eddie, that s good to know... but please see my previous post. I will probably order a can but due to time issues I may have to use the Krylon this
Re: Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayenta?
2007-08-20 by paulmwhiting
Thanks very much! Apparently my information as to availability in aersol cans was incorrect. I may order a can... but as I say, I m in a bit of a time crunch,
Re: Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayenta?
2007-08-20 by antoinedese
... production. ... Aerosol cans are available: http://www.atlex.com/premier/printshield-spray.htm
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by CDTobie@aol.com
... This offers increased sizes, and internal profiling, but no real advantages in terms of number of black inks... and yes, it does its internal profiling,
K3 archival and alternatives
2007-08-20 by jimcongleton
... carbon pigments (K & LK) via QTR - so if you like warm, you can still eliminate colour pigments.
Re: [Digital BW] Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayenta?
2007-08-20 by Edward Wiseman
Paul.. Premier Art Shield is available in SPRAY CANS from http://www.atlex.com I use it all the time for my inkjet matt and glossy prints Eddie ... From:
Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Eric Chan
Clayton, there is yet another solution which may bring the blend of best of both worlds -- though it certainly costs a lot more up front. That s the new HP Z
Krylon ok for protecting Eboni black-only prints on Moab Kayenta?
2007-08-20 by paulmwhiting
I ve got two types of Krylon on hand: Workable Fixatif the description on the can lists uses including Charcoal drawings. Since Eboni is a carbon product,
RE: [Digital BW] Re: Film Developing Recommendations
2007-08-20 by Lew
Thanks for responding. When you develop your film with scanning in mind, do you adjust development for more or less contrast? I have years of snappy negatives
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Film Developing Recommendations
2007-08-20 by Brian Ellis
In general a slightly flat (i.e. lower contrast) negative does better for scanning in my experience. I used the zone system for exposure and development before
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Richard Smallfield
Hi, I have a 2100 and love the warm tone prints I get with only the two UC carbon pigments (K & LK) via QTR - so if you like warm, you can still eliminate
Re: Help with Con K7 inks and 2200
2007-08-20 by Tyler Boley
... printer. I ... my ... manually ... if I recall, when using the Cone profiles properly with QTR you do not alter the gamma or other adjustments in the
Re: [Digital BW] Re: Film Developing Recommendations
2007-08-20 by Peter De Smidt
I use Vuescan as well, at least with BW negatives. The FH-3 carrier is a necessity, as it give much better edge-to-edge sharpness than the auto strip reader.
Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-20 by Clayton Jones
Hello Jim, ... Good point. I think that over time as more people try it and report in, the method will grow in popularity. There s another aspect of BO
Re: Film Developing Recommendations
2007-08-20 by djon43
Lew, I don t see any grain exaggeration difference between types of silver film (including various 30-year-old Ilford and Kodak, including 2475 recording
Help with Con K7 inks and 2200
2007-08-20 by Chris Dollar
I just started using / experimenting with a set of Con s K7 inks on an Epson 2200 printer. I actually ordered the split tone version of the inks. The gamma on
RE: [Digital BW] Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-19 by Paul Roark
... The 220 was a great bargain and ran the UT-3D inkset -- see http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT-3D_Readme.pdf Unfortunately, the 220 is not longer made.
Re: Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-19 by jimcongleton
Thanks, Clayton, for your (as always) carefully considered thoughts. I ve been struggling with the same lists of pros and cons, and impatiently waiting for
Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-19 by John
David, R220 and R800 are the model no. of Epson printer. http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?
Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-19 by Roger
... R800 and R220 are Epson printer models. I use the R220 myself and recommend it. For the inks, I guess you don t read here regularly. UT3D is a Paul Roark
Re: [Digital BW] Film Developing Recommendations
2007-08-19 by Peter De Smidt
You really are going to have to run some tests. I do have a coolscan V, and here s what I ve found. With BW negatives, the scanning exacerbates the grain.
Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-19 by David
I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, but I don t know what 3MK and UT-3D mean? David.
Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-19 by John
The 3MK-R800 or R220 UT-3D will be good. 1. 3MK-R800: able to print good B&W and Color on matte paper only. 2. R220 UT-3D: able to print good B&W on both matte
smaller printer for mainly black and white?
2007-08-19 by David
I have an Epson R2400 which I m happy with. However, I may be doing some traveling soon, and would like a smaller printer (but not really small, 4x6 in. print
[Digital BW] Re: Large 100% carbon display prints
2007-08-19 by scott_now_coming
Ahhh, something just occured to me. You are not diluting the Eboni when placed in the LK and LLK, hence QTR and curves. I m curious, though, of what can be
Ansel Adams Exhibit
2007-08-19 by scott_now_coming
Going to see this exhibit today. http://www.cia.edu/about/pressroom.php?sub=current&news_id=108 It s from a private collection. I don t know if it s a
[Digital BW] Re: Large 100% carbon display prints
2007-08-19 by scott_now_coming
Hi Paul, It has larger dots than the R1800, however. So, it would have graininess close to the 2200 I ve been experimenting with to see how large display
Re: [Digital BW] Re: What's with MIS?
2007-08-19 by Harry Lockwood
[I¹m reposting this message because, although it shows up in my Sent Mail, I didn¹t receive a copy via Digital BW email. Sorry if you are getting it twice.
Thoughts About K3 Archival Prints
2007-08-19 by Clayton Jones
I ve been in a funk lately, and it s all Paul Roark s fault. But today while pulling weeds I finally found my way out. Weed pulling, you see, is my therapy.
Re: Recommended Paper and Ink Combination
2007-08-19 by Roger
Should you be using Eboni with a non-matte paper? If you don t like MSR perhaps try Innova White Semi-matte- I like the lack of sparkly texture and solid feel.