Re: WTB: Soap kitchen
2007-06-02 by cuari7
The thing 'bout Soap Kitchens is that they're very slippery.... ;-P Sorry, I couldn't help it...
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WTB: Soap kitchen
2007-06-02 by fhserge
Anyone out there who wants/has to part with a SOUP KITCHEN? I have a lot of references...please make any offers to frank.hettlich@... Thanks and have a good day Frank
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-06-02 by Kim Hansen
It worked great a Klopfgeist instrument in logic routed to the serge's PNRV PNRV's envelope follower output to Serge sequencer clock input and also to DTG trig in for output vca - perfect synch ! I'm gonna have so much fun with this :) :) Kim On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:25 PM, Yulian P
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-06-02 by Yulian Pugachevsky
I placed my final custom order with Rex this past Friday.. as for many people, it was a bit unexpected due to the June 1st deadline and especially due to the fact that just a month ago, I received my newly ordered 3 panel system.. I had originally planned a 4 panel system w/ MIDI
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-06-02 by Kim Hansen
I've ordered this: QUAN(tkb) - PCO - NCOM - PDIV - RS - SSG - CVPRO - DSG - ADSR Maybe you should get the dual mixer if youre going to work in stereo seems your system will be lacking in mixing capabillity ? Kim On Jun 2, 2007, at 2:49 AM, matthew carpenter wrote: > Yep, 16" is w
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-06-01 by matthew carpenter
Yep, 16" is what we have to work with. It definitely encourages some creative and strenuous thought when planning the panel. Have you finalized what yours will be? I'm still trying to decide on the last 1 or 2 inches. I would certainly get the Matrix Mixer if I could but that's 4
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-06-01 by Kim Hansen
Matthew, I'd certainly like to have the two other serge vcf's but as we all know 16" is never enough ;) also i've got a few other filter modules i use with the Serge, - mainly two multimode vcf's from the roland system 700. The matrix mixer is VERY handy for things like this, - r
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-06-01 by Yulian Pugachevsky
I hear what you're talking about. I've done this test in the past.. and I do concur that a certain degree of latency is introduced.. as far as the MPC is concerned.. indeed.. Akai have always prevailed when it comes to timing.. and not only in regards to sequencing.. even their S
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-06-01 by Kim Hansen
Yulian, i'm not talking about a fixed midi latency - Try this experiment: Program a midi sequence in Logic containing equal-length notes. ( say 1/16th long on each 1/8th ) send the midi info to a synth or drum-machine playing a sound that is the same everytime and has a fast atta
Serge users in Montreal
2007-06-01 by Yulian Pugachevsky
Good day everyone, I'm looking to get in touch with Serge users located in Montreal, Canada and was wondering if anyone on SMOG is from my part of the woods... or if anyone knows of users in Montreal many thanks yulian
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-06-01 by Yulian Pugachevsky
Kim, I too use LogicPro on a MacBookPro (and have been using it since Apple acquired EMagic).. never noticed any MIDI latency issues (.. and no, i dont make slow and sad muisic ;).. the only thing that comes to mind when speaking of latency in Logic are the buses, since (and go f
FS PS4 PS-4 and PSD
2007-05-31 by pow333us
PS4 and a PSD. List price on the set is $525. Anyone interested at $350? A great match to all those custom panels that have to be ordered within the next month. Why slow Rex down with requests for PSU's when this one could be on its way to you in the next week? Paul
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-31 by Kim Hansen
that's one of the things i'm looking forward to trying with my forthcoming QUAN - feeding it random and semi-random voltages. I value your thoughts, - thanks kim On May 31, 2007, at 3:15 AM, darkstr1746@... wrote: > Your going to love the Quan. I used my Quantizer on control volt
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-05-31 by Kim Hansen
Hi Ross As i read it you're not asking about midi to cv conversion, but about what midi/computer setups we use ? - I use Logic Pro on a dual G4 - it's ok for the slow stuff and sad songs but the midi timing really isn't very good. - if i wanted/needed fast, tight midi i'd get a h
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-05-31 by Yulian Pugachevsky
My only beef with the MCV24 is that out of the 24 outputs, 4 are at 12bit and 20 at 8bit (which kinda sucks ;) What's nice however is that you can configure the outputs to be gates or CVs, so you could have 15 gates and 9 CV if you wanted to.. The price range is about the same fo
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-31 by matthew carpenter
If the QUO doesn't work well as a carrier for the FRS(X) what OSC does work well with the ext. carrier version? On 5/31/07, riluttante riluttante@... > wrote: --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Chris Sawyer wrote: > > I asked Rex once about using a QUO with the FRS(X). He indi
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-31 by riluttante
Here's the other guy again, Thomas/riluttante, so my short-notice first-and-last custom panel will look like this, most likely (I need to confirm this tomorrow): Preamp Detector PRNV 1 " New Timbral Oscillator NTO 3 " Ring Modulator RING 1 " Wave Multipliers VCM 2 " Triple Wavesh
Re: ACPR can do "hard" switching
2007-05-31 by riluttante
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , kimgh@... wrote: > > I also tried it last night and found that > the switching is audible - albeit subtly so. > I tried recording and looking at the result > in a waveform editor. It seemed there was a > minimum crossfade time of up to 30-40
Cross-fading: UAP vs ACPR [Was Re: My first (and last) custom pan
2007-05-31 by riluttante
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "paradigmshiftbeats" wrote: > > --- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "riluttante" > wrote: > > So you're saying they both have a slight lag to them, an audible > > "fade" between the two input signals no matter how steep the slope > > of the
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-31 by riluttante
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , Chris Sawyer wrote: > > I asked Rex once about using a QUO with the FRS(X). He indicated there is a significant difference between the frequency range of the standard QUO and that of the FRS' internal quadrature oscillator. He also mentioned
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-31 by matthew carpenter
I don't mind at all, John. I definitely respect and appreciate your insight. I know you have a ton of experience with this stuff. On 5/30/07, darkstr1746@... darkstr1746@... > wrote: ... I'm not involved in Serge world anymore but i love to see what kinds of systems people are pu
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-05-31 by Musique Non Stop
What about the Doepfer MCV24?? From: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com [mailto:SergeModular@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of matthew carpenter Sent: 31 May 2007 14:19 To: SergeModular@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [SergeModular] whats a good midi box for the serge Another vote for the Enc
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-05-31 by matthew carpenter
Another vote for the Encore Expressionist. Only thing it didn't support that I was interested it, is microtuning. The MOTM unit is the only one I know of that does. On 5/31/07, Yulian Pugachevsky yulian.p@... > wrote: Hi Ross, IMO, Encore Electronics Expressionist is the way to g
Re: ACPR can do "hard" switching
2007-05-31 by kimgh@inet.uni2.dk
I also tried it last night and found that the switching is audible - albeit subtly so. I tried recording and looking at the result in a waveform editor. It seemed there was a minimum crossfade time of up to 30-40 ms. However from looking at the waveform it seems the major part of
ACPR can do "hard" switching
2007-05-31 by paradigmshiftbeats
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "paradigmshiftbeats" wrote: > > I know I've done "hard switching" between two ACPR inputs using > the Sequencer in the past. I'll try again tonight using a DSG if > I can find the time and report back. I checked this tonight and can confirm t
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-05-31 by Yulian Pugachevsky
Hi Ross, IMO, Encore Electronics Expressionist is the way to go. For its feature set, simplicity, quality of construction, but mostly for its 16bit DACs all around (everyone else is at 12bit at most and some even at 8bit). http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_expres.html hope th
Taking offers on two Oakland panels
2007-05-31 by paradigmshiftbeats
For the better part of two years I've been deliberating over how to "finish" my Serge system by ordering a custom panel or two to reconfigure its module layout. It is time now to poop or get off the pot, so I'm going to post the two panels below for offers. If one of these fits y
OT other than Serge do any of you have CODE or Andromeda A^?
2007-05-31 by amnesia
Hi all Sorry if this is OT. I trust anyone who has a Serge, so thought I would ask if any of you have an Andromeda A6 or a Studio Electronics CODE. I am looking at getting either one as I am interested in writing/ producing again Ross >
Re: whats a good midi box for the serge
2007-05-31 by amnesia
Hi all I have decided after a year of noodling that I would like to hear the Serge running under midi control using laptop PC- Cubase SX. I have a CV converter ( I still need to make a lead from the CV box to ground serge) but wondered what people are using midi box wise....I hav
Re: An abstract question
2007-05-31 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
This is also a question and discussion/arguement that has been beat to death over the years. The true believers will say that there is no difference between a shop and a custom panel as far as the "modular-ness" of it is concerned. The purist will argue ( with some validity ) tha
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-31 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
Your going to love the Quan. I used my Quantizer on control voltages mostly. I did several recordings quantizing the output of a SSG. Also used that approach on the output of a DTG and playing the DTG controls manual wise. Paleozoic Twilight is a good example of this approach. It
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by matthew carpenter
Well, I haven't had a use for a quantizer. I would rather use the space for something like a Boolean Logic or Schmitt Trigger. I'm interested in creating very stupid artificial intelligence or something like that. That, and having all of the Serge manglers and filters! That's wha
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by paradigmshiftbeats
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "matthew carpenter" wrote: > My current config, for anyone who wishes to comment: > > NTO / PCO / VCM / AMX (w/ phase switch) / SSG w/ noise / DTG (w/ > sig ins) / VCFQ(X) / UAP > > BUFF / SCPR / ACPR / ADSR / ADSR / VCF2 / MIX2 / VCFQ(X) / E
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by Kim Hansen
Matthew, - what about a quantizer if you're going to get a tkb or sequencer panel later ? I was also in the process of planning a custom panel when Rex's mail dropped, - so i've just ordered it before the deadline. I'd been planning and giving it a lot of thought for some time no
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by matthew carpenter
Haha, no no. Sorry, I hijacked this thread and now you're confusing me with the other guy. I hope he doesn't feel left out! There's just so little time to decide! I have the three panel system I posted pics of and was looking at a panel that's comprised of a few things from the S
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
So it looks like your going to have two FRS and two WADs??? sonic damage abounds!! hahaha. With that set up, i personally don't see any benifit by adding the BUFF and STR. But that's just my opinion based on how i used that configuration. Others who are more knowledgable with tha
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by paradigmshiftbeats
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "paradigmshiftbeats" wrote: > > I think the two individual boards of a Dual ADSR can be stacked > on top of each other in just 1" Oops - meant to write "Dual ASR"
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by Chris Sawyer
I asked Rex once about using a QUO with the FRS(X). He indicated there is a significant difference between the frequency range of the standard QUO and that of the FRS' internal quadrature oscillator. He also mentioned something about optimizing the filtering to match the internal
An abstract question
2007-05-30 by Chris Muir
Without custom panels, is Serge a really a modular synth? -C -- Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one status quo. cbm@... | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by matthew carpenter
Right, John, thank you. Here's the layout I'm considering for a complement to my other three: PRNV / FRS(X) / CM / XFAD / QUO / WAD / BUFF / AMX / NCOM / STR / DCSM I may change the sequence. Only shop panels I can foresee picking up in the future would be the Sequencer panel and
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
All Freq Shift modules are 3" the extra space being taken up by the CM. Rex will tell you that he doesn't do single modules. That horse has been beat to death for years. The shop panels configuration is set.Anything else is custom and will probably stay that way. The only way for
Cross-fading: UAP vs ACPR [Was Re: My first (and last) custom pan
2007-05-30 by paradigmshiftbeats
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "riluttante" wrote: > So you're saying they both have a slight lag to them, an audible > "fade" between the two input signals no matter how steep the slope > of the CV is? I think what you're experiencing in the UAP is its equal-power curve,
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by paradigmshiftbeats
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "matthew carpenter" wrote: > > How many inches does each version of the Frequency Shifter take? > The table says 3 but the pictures of the panels show 2. The panel itself is 2" but the boards behind the panel require 3" so you have to place a
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by matthew carpenter
How many inches does each version of the Frequency Shifter take? The table says 3 but the pictures of the panels show 2. On 5/30/07, matthew carpenter matfhew.carpenfer@... > wrote: I use the Active Processor all the time for audio. I'll let you know if it'll do a jump cut. Yes,
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by matthew carpenter
I use the Active Processor all the time for audio. I'll let you know if it'll do a jump cut. Yes, I'd like to place a last minute order, too. Such short notice! Right, that was my point about getting a panel with certain modules that we won't see on the shop panels... Or will we?
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by riluttante
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , darkstr1746@... wrote: > > The XFAD might not give you that hard quick "left/right" thing your looking for, > if i'm reading you correctly. Same with the ACPR. So you're saying they both have a slight lag to them, an audible "fade" between th
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by riluttante
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , "matthew carpenter" wrote: > > Yeah, I like the Triple Waveshaper and Wave Multipliers, too. The EQ is > brilliant, and the VCF2, I've yet to form a more solid opinion on, and I > have two Active Processors which I use all the time. The NCOM
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by riluttante
--- In SergeModular@yahoogroups.com , John P wrote: > > It sounds like you know you what you want pretty well... > just out of curiousity what makes you like the NTO? The additional timbral modulation parts, basically: VC/manual waveshape modulation, VC index on the linear FM. I
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-30 by darkstr1746@comcast.net
The XFAD might not give you that hard quick "left/right" thing your looking for, if i'm reading you correctly. Same with the ACPR. I like the TWS more than the VCM but that's just a matter of taste. You don't have that many OSC so i'm not sure why you would want more than one VCM
Re: My first (and last) custom panel
2007-05-29 by matthew carpenter
Yeah, I like the Triple Waveshaper and Wave Multipliers, too. The EQ is brilliant, and the VCF2, I've yet to form a more solid opinion on, and I have two Active Processors which I use all the time. The NCOM is great, too, so many uses, and Rex called it a rock crusher, once. I'll